2 things we don't want to talk about.....

[silentking]

Y'all niggas don't know me like that...I aint an attention seeker like that....and respect and fuck y'all in the same breath....but I gotta say whats on my mind. Our predicament right now in this funky bitch we call America comes down to two things nobody wants to talk about. 1) At the end of the Civil War, all the traitorous generals, leaders, etc. should have been executed as an example to make the case for a strong union....most especially because of the ideas they chose to fight that war on. Not doing that was a passive admission that this whole shit is beholden to those ideas. 2) Once we were given freedom as ex-slaves, descendants of such (ADOS) or whatever....we should have gotten thee FUCK up out of here and taken our chances wherever else. Both things are curious.........what kinda country tolerates traitors to the extent that America tolerated the confederacy? What kinda oppressed peoples gets free and chooses to stay in the land of the most vicious oppression ever witnessed on this planet? We sick with the same shit as massa. And the symptoms bout to take us all out.

 

[305]

Y'all niggas don't know me like that...I aint an attention seeker like that....and respect and fuck y'all in the same breath....but I gotta say whats on my mind. Our predicament right now in this funky bitch we call America comes down to two things nobody wants to talk about. 1) At the end of the Civil War, all the traitorous generals, leaders, etc. should have been executed as an example to make the case for a strong union....most especially because of the ideas they chose to fight that war on. Not doing that was a passive admission that this whole shit is beholden to those ideas. 2) Once we were given freedom as ex-slaves, descendants of such (ADOS) or whatever....we should have gotten thee FUCK up out of here and taken our chances wherever else. Both things are curious.........what kinda country tolerates traitors to the extent that America tolerated the confederacy? What kinda oppressed peoples gets free and chooses to stay in the land of the most vicious oppression ever witnessed on this planet? We sick with the same shit as massa. And the symptoms bout to take us all out.

EXECUTION I agree with.

Get the fuck outta here I agree with but you know was impossible. Staying in oppresed land happens all the time in history. Go back on what boat with what money. and where to, they were now born in America.

Lets see how this convo goes. Sounds like it will be heated.

 

[Entrepronegro]

Our people built America so our people have a right to want to stay in America.

Running away means that we are letting the oppressors have what out people built.

Nah we would be bitchmade if we did that.

 

[silentking]

EXECUTION I agree with.

Get the fuck outta here I agree with but you know was impossible. Staying in oppresed land happens all the time in history. Go back on what boat with what money. and where to, they were now born in America.

Lets see how this convo goes. Sounds like it will be heated.

I hear you. And there's some merits to it except all the ones who did it. Liberia is a good example. Its a given that we wouldn't have known what we were going into, but there is something bedrock that we did know......whatever it was, it wasn't designed and built on the idea of disenfranchising us specifically like this bitch was.

Edit** I had to come back. I can even understand the first couple decades of complacency or hoping for better. But all the great black minds of the early 20th century.....minds who contemplated this question at levels I never will.....those minds all arrived at the same conclusion...."I'm gettin the fuck outta here". I would argue that if Martin and Malcolm hadn't been cut short in their journeys they would have arrived at a similar conclusion. That's why that banned episode of Boondocks was so poignant.

 

[Dr. Truth]

Our people built America so our people have a right to want to stay in America.

Running away means that we are letting the oppressors have what out people built.

Nah we would be bitchmade if we did that.

Aren’t you Canadian or is your trolling causing you to break character. You stupid fuck

 

[g0nbad real bad]

Dude says he's not an attention seeker but creates self indulgent thread.

Peace out

 

[Mixd]

400 yrs of mental conditioning. Which is still present very much so today as to how we treat one another and you think "going back home" was even a thought?

They were old folk tales to think of going anywhere but here and getting your own piece of land and work/business.

 

[killagram]

Y'all niggas don't know me like that...I aint an attention seeker like that....and respect and fuck y'all in the same breath....but I gotta say whats on my mind. Our predicament right now in this funky bitch we call America comes down to two things nobody wants to talk about. 1) At the end of the Civil War, all the traitorous generals, leaders, etc. should have been executed as an example to make the case for a strong union....most especially because of the ideas they chose to fight that war on. Not doing that was a passive admission that this whole shit is beholden to those ideas. 2) Once we were given freedom as ex-slaves, descendants of such (ADOS) or whatever....we should have gotten thee FUCK up out of here and taken our chances wherever else. Both things are curious.........what kinda country tolerates traitors to the extent that America tolerated the confederacy? What kinda oppressed peoples gets free and chooses to stay in the land of the most vicious oppression ever witnessed on this planet? We sick with the same shit as massa. And the symptoms bout to take us all out.

How in the hell was you gonna get 4000 miles away with no money....and no help..and no boat and no captain...I cant get past that point..brah

 

[Entrepronegro]

Aren’t you Canadian or is your trolling causing you to break character. You stupid fuck

I said our people meaning black people. I’ am half black you dufus.

 

[silentking]

How in the hell was you gonna get 4000 miles away with no money....and no help..and no boat and no captain...I cant get past that point..brah

its 2020....we got means. Like I said before...I can understand some of the 1865 logic. But today....whats' the reasoning?

 

[silentking]

And I aint say "let's go back to Africa". The early 20th century minds didnt do that for the most part. Most of em went to Paris. But it was a clear choice of between here where its clear what it is and anywhere else, I'll take my chances anywhere else.

 

[killagram]

its 2020....we got means. Like I said before...I can understand some of the 1865 logic. But today....whats' the reasoning?

You changing the narrative..u not once mentioned..today..you only talked about the post slavery immediately after the civil war... but to set this bullshit straight..Ain't no CAC running Killamayne off.. nowhere... They feet need to be kickin they ass.. if they ever think about fucking with me.... Brah

 

[killagram]

And I aint say "let's go back to Africa". The early 20th century minds didnt do that for the most part. Most of em went to Paris. But it was a clear choice of between here where its clear what it is and anywhere else, I'll take my chances anywhere else.

I'm really about my name..brah

 

[silentking]

Dude says he's not an attention seeker but creates self indulgent thread.

Peace out

I would posit that any and every thread on a forum like this is self indulgent to the OP, so in a sense I guess you got a point. Duly noted.

 

[gameboy]

you are trying to process history that is based on lies,, Black people were already here,, the Americas are our native land,, you are the native American and don't even know it,, this land was taken from you,, we are prisoners of war (aka slaves),, we are not from Africa tho

 

[silentking]

You changing the narrative..u not once mentioned..today..you only talked about the post slavery immediately after the civil war... but to set this bullshit straight..Ain't no CAC running Killamayne off.. nowhere... They feet need to be kickin they ass.. if they ever think about fucking with me.... Brah

thought in motion fam.....if u took my initial post as "why didnt slaves reincorporate immediately after release" then that's my fail in stating my thoughts. Im not tryin to change the narrative, I'm tryin to clarify the thought.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Y'all niggas don't know me like that...I aint an attention seeker like that....and respect and fuck y'all in the same breath....but I gotta say whats on my mind. Our predicament right now in this funky bitch we call America comes down to two things nobody wants to talk about. 1) At the end of the Civil War, all the traitorous generals, leaders, etc. should have been executed as an example to make the case for a strong union....most especially because of the ideas they chose to fight that war on. Not doing that was a passive admission that this whole shit is beholden to those ideas. 2) Once we were given freedom as ex-slaves, descendants of such (ADOS) or whatever....we should have gotten thee FUCK up out of here and taken our chances wherever else. Both things are curious.........what kinda country tolerates traitors to the extent that America tolerated the confederacy? What kinda oppressed peoples gets free and chooses to stay in the land of the most vicious oppression ever witnessed on this planet? We sick with the same shit as massa. And the symptoms bout to take us all out.

I hear you but the truth is the pilgrims should of been forced out.. it ain’t the land that’s the problems it’s the pale invaders that is..if they all leave and go back to their land mass this country truly would be great again..it’s the reason I’m happy about hearing the new migration out of nyc of these pilgrims..the pale skins are headed for the hills and nyc getting that old feeling back.. certain people aren’t liking this old/new feel of nyc but truthly in due time if more of these pale skins bounce nyc will be great again..rent already dropping in certain areas

 

[silentking]

I hear you but the truth is the pilgrims should of been forced out.. it ain’t the land that’s the problems it’s the pale invaders that is..if they all leave and go back to their land mass this country truly would be great again..it’s the reason I’m happy about hearing the new migration out of nyc of these pilgrims..the pale skins are headed for the hills and nyc getting that old feeling back.. certain people aren’t liking this old/new feel of nyc but truthly in due time if more of these pale skins bounce nyc will be great again..rent already dropping in certain areas

I hear that and I can't say I don't disagree. I aint from NY and have only visited. But I would say what you're talking about is white people doing the thing I'm asking why we aint done.....assess the situation, realize that it's to your detriment, and move. I'm just tryin to understand what the logic is today in 2020. We built this shit....true. But we did it with no contract, no union, and under duress. There can't be a serious expectation of being made whole, so what's the reasoning now?

 

[tallblacknyc]

I hear that and I can't say I don't disagree. I aint from NY and have only visited. But I would say what you're talking about is white people doing the thing I'm asking why we aint done.....assess the situation, realize that it's to your detriment, and move. I'm just tryin to understand what the logic is today in 2020. We built this shit....true. But we did it with no contract, no union, and under duress. There can't be a serious expectation of being made whole, so what's the reasoning now?

nature.. you put a animal in certain environments and overtime it will adapt.. we are animals and overtime of us being here some of us adapted to the environment.. yes the conditions are harsh at times but some of us also got stronger due to the situation..some of us learned how to utilize the environment to our advantage and benefited big time from it... Some just don’t know anything else and aren’t going to change their surrounding due to not experiencing any other habitats...but our main predator slowed us down from evolving big time but there may be a change in the shift.. sometimes time works in a species favor and it’s due time for theirs to face extinction..there 100 yr plague is happening now and we shall see where it takes us

 

[silentking]

Imma drop this here to weigh on the question of why we still here puttin into America. 4 Principles of Operational Risk Management.

 

[dHustla]

I hear you. And there's some merits to it except all the ones who did it. Liberia is a good example. Its a given that we wouldn't have known what we were going into, but there is something bedrock that we did know......whatever it was, it wasn't designed and built on the idea of disenfranchising us specifically like this bitch was.

Edit** I had to come back. I can even understand the first couple decades of complacency or hoping for better. But all the great black minds of the early 20th century.....minds who contemplated this question at levels I never will.....those minds all arrived at the same conclusion...."I'm gettin the fuck outta here". I would argue that if Martin and Malcolm hadn't been cut short in their journeys they would have arrived at a similar conclusion. That's why that banned episode of Boondocks was so poignant.

Link to said banned episode, please & thank you

 

[silentking]

Link to said banned episode, please & thank you

Edit** In the interest of truth, this episode wasn't banned, but was a big controversy involving Al Sharpton among others.

 

[dHustla]

you are trying to process history that is based on lies,, Black people were already here,, the Americas are our native land,, you are the native American and don't even know it,, this land was taken from you,, we are prisoners of war (aka slaves),, we are not from Africa tho

Huh? So DNA been lying?

 

[dugington]

Sweat equity.
The Black man has a right to prosper in any land on the planet that we put in work at.

Brazil, America, the West Indies... All places that we were enslaved and therefore, have earned the right to prosper for however long we want.

 

[chitownsfinest]

Our people built America so our people have a right to want to stay in America.

Running away means that we are letting the oppressors have what out people built.

Nah we would be bitchmade if we did that.

white, trump-loving CUNT

 

[Entrepronegro]

white, trump-loving CUNT

Foh

 

[850credit]

OP do you currently reside in the States?

 

[Shaka54]

CACs have never punished other CACs for their atrocities SINCE the Civil War unless they are absolutely forced to.

We are woven into the fabric of this muhfucka. We are heavily invested in this country and to let the US off the hook is not an option.

I'm late to the conversation so I'll read through the comments so I don't repeat what's already been said or to chime in where I think I can add something.

 

[TheAlias]

Our people built America so our people have a right to want to stay in America.

And we can end the convo right there. I understand the desire to go elsewhere. I have it myself. But my motto that I repeat to anyone with ears, is my ancestors BUILT this country, and if anyone needs to leave, it's everybody besides us and the Native Americans.

That's it. That's the list. 1 motherfucking 2.

 

[tallblacknyc]

And we can end the convo right there. I understand the desire to go elsewhere. I have it myself. But my motto that I repeat to anyone with ears, is my ancestors BUILT this country, and if anyone needs to leave, it's everybody besides us and the Native Americans.

That's it. That's the list. 1 motherfucking 2.

You got to remember the Mexicans, Hawaiians, eskimos were also here... Mexicans were forced out their homes and when they tried to enter back to their land they were called “illegals “... how you illegal when this was originally their home also

 

[Quek9]

We couldn't leave, we didn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. Our ancestors were the personification of perseverance. I agree they should have executed them all.

 

[yureeka9]

The Union made two mistakes: 1.) Neglected to execute the confederates and 2.) follow through on the promise of 40 acres and a mule. If they had done the first, then the second would have been a foregone conclusion. We wouldn't be a second class group and there would be no talk of reparations. The southern part of the US would be a black empire by now built on the graves of a lot of racist crackas and shaped by the vision of some highly skilled, determined ex slaves.

 

[4 Dimensional]

The Union made two mistakes: 1.) Neglected to execute the confederates and 2.) follow through on the promise of 40 acres and a mule. If they had done the first, then the second would have been a foregone conclusion. We wouldn't be a second class group and there would be no talk of reparations. The southern part of the US would be a black empire by now built on the graves of a lot of racist crackas and shaped by the vision of some highly skilled, determined ex slaves.

The US still operated under the constitution, so the southern states were brought back in which they gained back their state rights back as well.

The civil war was tricky because it wasn’t like those southern state wasn’t apart of the country before the split. South Carolina was the first state to secede in December 1860. The war was over in 1865.

So the government just went back to what it was before hand. The idea of democracy and the two party system should have changed. The south may have lost the war, but they didn’t lose their culture. Hence, the state and local government adopted Jim Crow laws.

The union should have never given the state rights back to the former confederacy.

 

[Tito_Jackson]

Attempts to leave were thwarted by CACs on several occasions. Here are two examples.

Black Star Line (1919-1923)

The Black Star Line (BSL) was a steamship corporation established in 1919 by Pan-Africanist Marcus Garvey, the leader of the United Negro Improvement Association (UNIA). The name, inspired by a British luxury steamship line called the White Star Line, was applied to a highly ambitious and...

www.blackpast.org

Little Known Black History Fact: Monrovia, Liberia

Liberia is home to the second-established Black American settlement in Africa, Monrovia, the nation’s capital city. It was founded on April 25, 1822 by the American Colonization Society (ACS), an o…

www.google.com

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

its 2020....we got means. Like I said before...I can understand some of the 1865 logic. But today....whats' the reasoning?

Cause our ancestors built the funky country...i aint going no where. I'll invest property in foreign countries and stock. Leaving nope,I will remain a citizen