Real as in she feels she's real or she actually is? There's alot of confusion with that imo.
Would the man have to determine that she's real? What if he isn't and thinks he is?
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Real as in she feels she's real or she actually is? There's alot of confusion with that imo.
Would the man have to determine that she's real? What if he isn't and thinks he is?
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Remember this though. Before the CAC came and swept up our ancestors they had more than one woman if they could afford to or had the status.
I always find it funny when women get afrocentric but in the next breath talk eurocentric one woman and one man shit.
Our relationships now, this you can only have one woman shit, is CAC Euro and maybe is why there are so many problems now.
Then combine that shit with white woman feminism....
That is why every culture looks at the CAC like 
.....
"Control your women...please get that shit from around here!!!!"
Another question. Where is the accountability and responsibility for the black woman's plight? As a black man I more than understand the sorrows that come with playing against a stacked deck but I will not say that my issues, our issues as black men, are not without our own doing. Where is the ownership for black woman for some of the shit they face? Cause I see from most of our black women is covert professional victimhood -I'm merely an actor in a movie I have no control of/ all my issues are external and not internal- and that stunts grown and change.
Please advise....
BTW, I watched the videos...interesting use of simile and metaphors relating the earth to the black woman, minus the self destructive properties of the latter (the human element).
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I was waiting for a question like this.
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The realist stuff you ever wrote....Many of these things i've tried to share with young people many times. Those of the european mindset have a very hard time understanding the FULL concept of this though.
Another question. Where is the accountability and responsibility for the black woman's plight? As a black man I more than understand the sorrows that come with playing against a stacked deck but I will not say that my issues, our issues as black men, are not without our own doing. Where is the ownership for black woman for some of the shit they face? Cause I see from most of our black women is covert professional victimhood -I'm merely an actor in a movie I have no control of/ all my issues are external and not internal- and that stunts grown and change.
Please advise....
BTW, I watched the videos...interesting use of simile and metaphors relating the earth to the black woman, minus the self destructive properties of the latter (the human element).
*two cents*
For us in this country? The responsibility of our destruction lies with our captors/conquerers.
The responsibility for our upliftment? Our retrieval of our natural way of being? On the black man. The black woman did nothing on her own. She started nothing. She did not create where she is now. She was put here. Placed here. And suffers there. Our leaders, which SHOULD be our black men, just as in ANY
OTHER
OUTFIT
ORGANIZATION....
The leaders are the ones who should bear that responsibility. Blame is fine. Now what? What are you going to do?
Then you are not familiar w/ my posts. Because this is the one thing I stress.....
Another question. Where is the accountability and responsibility for the black woman's plight? As a black man I more than understand the sorrows that come with playing against a stacked deck but I will not say that my issues, our issues as black men, are not without our own doing. Where is the ownership for black woman for some of the shit they face? Cause I see from most of our black women is covert professional victimhood -I'm merely an actor in a movie I have no control of/ all my issues are external and not internal- and that stunts grown and change.
Please advise....
BTW, I watched the videos...interesting use of simile and metaphors relating the earth to the black woman, minus the self destructive properties of the latter (the human element).
*two cents*
I would say its both the black woman's and man's responsibility.
Real recognize real don't it? That's true in every aspect of life. Real should be represented by her father. And be told to her what real is by her mother as well. It's something i've done with my mentees, and something i've done with my daughters.
And my daughters friends. Tell them how a real man behaves. And they had an example in their father. They have an example in their grandfather, older uncles.
Remember this though. Before the CAC came and swept up our ancestors they had more than one woman if they could afford to or had the status.
I always find it funny when women get afrocentric but in the next breath talk eurocentric one woman and one man shit.
Our relationships now, this you can only have one woman shit, is CAC Euro and maybe is why there are so many problems now.
Then combine that shit with white woman feminism....
lol You're so cute. lol And i do agree with you. But you have to realize having more than 1 wife is almost nothing to do with sex. Just putting it out there.
Now i wish i had a smartphone. lol I want to see where this thread goes. Don't ya'll get too into discussion without me!
lol...I figured you would say that but I was referring to the self inflicted hell she, the black woman, puts herself in (to many examples to mention) and blames everyone else...what about that is the black man accountable for; what the black woman does to herself? Is he to protect her from herself and her self destructive life choices? Cause that is how you treat children: you protect them from themselves. Is that how we are suppose to treat black women? LIKE CHILDREN???
Explain.....
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That's when I wonder about Grey areas. Women that didn't have fathers and what if your opinion on what a man is isn't shared? Yours absolute?
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I agree to a degree, but any woman who lays with a man who she doesn't respect, doesn't deserve respect. So a man justified in thinking he obligated respect if is in fact showing her respect and is in a relationship with her. The odd part, is these women step out the bounds of their role and think they are being slighted when they are causing the inbalance to begin with.
Now what... Shit goes both ways.
That's why I have a problem with this...
And keep posing the question of accountability and responsibility toward the black female and her self inflicted plights.
*two cents*
I wouldn't mind hearing a few of Crees voices. HIYOOOOOOOOOOO!
Just saying, that is how our people ran their society before CAC vision.
I'm just saying. Cats think they have a deep afrocentric woman. She got the natural hair. She listens to some tribal sounds. She knows all about KMT. Doesn't use the n-word ever.
Now come home one day like...
"Hey, this is a new addition to our household. Her name is Bria. Welcome her." That Afrocentric woman is about to go eurocentric white woman on your black ass.
You ain't even a black man no more....you're "crazy ass ni99a!!" while she trying to bash your brains out with the ANKH off the wall. Maybe I dont understand your question what exactly are you asking? I will answer you from MY perspective and no one elses...One thing that I notice alot here is people expect when you speak that you are are speaking for your entire race or sex.
I will answer your question from my point of view. I just want to make sure I understand the question 1st.
I will answer your question from my point of view. I just want to make sure I understand the question 1st.
Now what... Shit goes both ways.
That's why I have a problem with this...
It does go both ways if you try to mess with ghetto assed women. There are some white chics who try to act like black hoodrats. They are one and the same. White women though, normal everyday white women are a totally different breed. And they should be put on a pedestal for being themselves.
It's the same as when you know someone who went to college and became successful. You have a great deal of respect form him/her for what they have accomplished. Juxtaposed to a lowlife that you know that never cared to get off of his momma's couch. And he has done nothing all his life except barely graduate highshool and have the highest score in mortal combat. You tend to have alot less respect for someone like that.
Ok.
I will ask you this mulit-part question. Why does it seem that black women's self, self-esteem issues, and plight tend to be everyone's problem and fault but their own? Most issues start off internally and not externally and to change that one needs to be accountable and responsible for one's lot in life and how their actions fit into it. Why does it seem that accountability and responsibility is not stressed as much cause that is the key to improving one's self, self esteem, and ultimately changing one's plight.Change comes from within FIRST. Why is no one stressing that to our women? Why does it seem the it's always "it's everyone's/ everything's fault but mine" is the standard train of thought?
I'm not being a dick. I really want to know from a woman's viewpoint...
*two cents*
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Another question. Where is the accountability and responsibility for the black woman's plight? As a black man I more than understand the sorrows that come with playing against a stacked deck but I will not say that my issues, our issues as black men, are not without our own doing. Where is the ownership for black woman for some of the shit they face? Cause I see from most of our black women is covert professional victimhood -I'm merely an actor in a movie I have no control of/ all my issues are external and not internal- and that stunts grown and change.
Please advise....
BTW, I watched the videos...interesting use of simile and metaphors relating the earth to the black woman, minus the self destructive properties of the latter (the human element).
*two cents*
Accountability and responsibility is ingrained in the training of being a good man or women,? Which means the same for good black men and women... what we deal with mostly don't fall into that category. The category which we attribute the tag black men and women on the board under gross generalization are the subhumans referred to as Ns, which take the time to make excuses for their lack of self control, dignity, respect, esteem, and pride called Ns... even those whose excuse are good intentions fall under this category...
The problem about the destructive behavior is that the weak won't change unless those around them change, and Ns hang around other Ns so that is out of the question. Getting people to acknowledge their faults without pointing the finger and then formulating a plan is harder because they only see their hurt and pain while not acknowledging the pain and hurt they cause... the black community needs to love and forgive then rebuild.. but tell that to bumquisha with 4 kids and tyrone not raising his contribution...
I for one have never made an excuse for them. Its similar to blaming every white man for their redneck cousins, you never hear about those which are good due to the fact they don't make waves, they do what they have to do, are productive, and pray that a N is not around to fuck it up.
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The black woman is Earth? No wonder this planet is fucking up. It's a mess, polluted, falling apart, and almost uninhabitable. Sign me up for the next flight out of here. 
No wonder this planet is fucking up. It's a mess, polluted, falling apart, and almost uninhabitable. Sign me up for the next flight out of here. I dont think you are being a dick at all....I really dont. Here is my take:
Q: Why does it seem that black women's self, self-esteem issues, and plight tend to be everyone's problem and fault but their own? Real talk: Because sometimes it it is a painful realization for some people. It is easier to pass blame onto someone else than to sit and look within. Some women have inherited this type of behavior from not just family, but their surroundings. When talking about self esteem some women have been around so much bullshit, that they think it's normal. They have been a doormat so long and allowed someone to walk over them that they feel they dont deserve anything better. Then wallow in self pity because of what has been done to them......They have seen it in their own home growing up. with their friends and such that they feel it is the way it is supposed to be. Have you ever argued w/ someome w/ low self esteem? They make logic off why their hardship is YOUR fault. In their head they have forced themselves to believe they are right. Deep down they know better. But they rather fight that pain, because it is too hurtful to realize their mess is their own fault for what they have allowed.
Why is no one stressing that to our women? Why does it seem the it's always "it's everyone's/ everything's fault but mine" is the standard train of thought? Here is the thing...I stress this all the time. And catch hell from alot of women because of it. There are maybe 2 or 3 people on this very board who know my WHOLE story. What I have been through, things I have seen and why I am who I am today. I could be angry, bitter and twisted but for what? That would be giving other folks and their actions control of me. Screw that. I have control of me and my own actions. I choose to be happy, I choose to work w/ women who want & need help to feel better for themselves. But in doing that...They have to WANT better or more w/ their lives. You ask why arent people stressing what needs to be said to black women? It is because some people dont have black women in their best interests. Some people TELL these broken hearted, bitter sisters what they want to hear. Sometimes for $$, self gain or sheer entertainment. I have personally witnessed someone tell someone to do some bullshit and make a fool of themselves just for laughs. And that sister did it....And when I tried to tell her to fall back, I got my ass handed to me. Why? because it was easier to act out and make a fool of herself..Thats all she knew...And the person who gave her the advice knew that..And she laughed behind her back.
Also-people love to talk about negativity....Just look at this board! People rather talk about negative posts, than when someone drops science and says something positive i.e....Why you arent familiar already w/ my stance on this subject
I have 4 suggestions to sisters who are struggling w/ self esteem and blame game issues:
LOOK WITHIN-You have to realize your hand in your downfall.
KNOW YOUR SELF WORTH-You are valuable and deserve happiness
LET GO OF NEGATIVITY-I stay happy, because I cut negativity out of my life by any means necessary.
STAND BY YOUR WORD-If you say one thing today and do something else tomorrow-who is going to take you seriously?
Q: Why does it seem that black women's self, self-esteem issues, and plight tend to be everyone's problem and fault but their own? Real talk: Because sometimes it it is a painful realization for some people. It is easier to pass blame onto someone else than to sit and look within. Some women have inherited this type of behavior from not just family, but their surroundings. When talking about self esteem some women have been around so much bullshit, that they think it's normal. They have been a doormat so long and allowed someone to walk over them that they feel they dont deserve anything better. Then wallow in self pity because of what has been done to them......They have seen it in their own home growing up. with their friends and such that they feel it is the way it is supposed to be. Have you ever argued w/ someome w/ low self esteem? They make logic off why their hardship is YOUR fault. In their head they have forced themselves to believe they are right. Deep down they know better. But they rather fight that pain, because it is too hurtful to realize their mess is their own fault for what they have allowed.
Why is no one stressing that to our women? Why does it seem the it's always "it's everyone's/ everything's fault but mine" is the standard train of thought? Here is the thing...I stress this all the time. And catch hell from alot of women because of it. There are maybe 2 or 3 people on this very board who know my WHOLE story. What I have been through, things I have seen and why I am who I am today. I could be angry, bitter and twisted but for what? That would be giving other folks and their actions control of me. Screw that. I have control of me and my own actions. I choose to be happy, I choose to work w/ women who want & need help to feel better for themselves. But in doing that...They have to WANT better or more w/ their lives. You ask why arent people stressing what needs to be said to black women? It is because some people dont have black women in their best interests. Some people TELL these broken hearted, bitter sisters what they want to hear. Sometimes for $$, self gain or sheer entertainment. I have personally witnessed someone tell someone to do some bullshit and make a fool of themselves just for laughs. And that sister did it....And when I tried to tell her to fall back, I got my ass handed to me. Why? because it was easier to act out and make a fool of herself..Thats all she knew...And the person who gave her the advice knew that..And she laughed behind her back.
Also-people love to talk about negativity....Just look at this board! People rather talk about negative posts, than when someone drops science and says something positive i.e....Why you arent familiar already w/ my stance on this subject
I have 4 suggestions to sisters who are struggling w/ self esteem and blame game issues:
LOOK WITHIN-You have to realize your hand in your downfall.
KNOW YOUR SELF WORTH-You are valuable and deserve happiness
LET GO OF NEGATIVITY-I stay happy, because I cut negativity out of my life by any means necessary.
STAND BY YOUR WORD-If you say one thing today and do something else tomorrow-who is going to take you seriously?
Ok.
Change comes from within FIRST. Why is no one stressing that to our women? Why does it seem the it's always "it's everyone's/ everything's fault but mine" is the standard train of thought?
I'm not being a dick. I really want to know from a woman's viewpoint...
*two cents*
I dont think you are being a dick at all....I really dont. Here is my take:
Q: Why does it seem that black women's self, self-esteem issues, and plight tend to be everyone's problem and fault but their own? Real talk: Because sometimes it it is a painful realization for some people. It is easier to pass blame onto someone else than to sit and look within. Some women have inherited this type of behavior from not just family, but their surroundings. When talking about self esteem some women have been around so much bullshit, that they think it's normal. They have been a doormat so long and allowed someone to walk over them that they feel they dont deserve anything better. Then wallow in self pity because of what has been done to them......They have seen it in their own home growing up. with their friends and such that they feel it is the way it is supposed to be. Have you ever argued w/ someome w/ low self esteem? They make logic off why their hardship is YOUR fault. In their head they have forced themselves to believe they are right. Deep down they know better. But they rather fight that pain, because it is too hurtful to realize their mess is their own fault for what they have allowed.
Why is no one stressing that to our women? Why does it seem the it's always "it's everyone's/ everything's fault but mine" is the standard train of thought? Here is the thing...I stress this all the time. And catch hell from alot of women because of it. There are maybe 2 or 3 people on this very board who know my WHOLE story. What I have been through, things I have seen and why I am who I am today. I could be angry, bitter and twisted but for what? That would be giving other folks and their actions control of me. Screw that. I have control of me and my own actions. I choose to be happy, I choose to work w/ women who want & need help to feel better for themselves. But in doing that...They have to WANT better or more w/ their lives. You ask why arent people stressing what needs to be said to black women? It is because some people dont have black women in their best interests. Some people TELL these broken hearted, bitter sisters what they want to hear. Sometimes for $$, self gain or sheer entertainment. I have personally witnessed someone tell someone to do some bullshit and make a fool of themselves just for laughs. And that sister did it....And when I tried to tell her to fall back, I got my ass handed to me. Why? because it was easier to act out and make a fool of herself..Thats all she knew...And the person who gave her the advice knew that..And she laughed behind her back.
Also-people love to talk about negativity....Just look at this board! People rather talk about negative posts, than when someone drops science and says something positive i.e....Why you arent familiar already w/ my stance on this subject
I have 4 suggestions to sisters who are struggling w/ self esteem and blame game issues:
LOOK WITHIN-You have to realize your hand in your downfall.
KNOW YOUR SELF WORTH-You are valuable and deserve happiness
LET GO OF NEGATIVITY-I stay happy, because I cut negativity out of my life by any means necessary.
STAND BY YOUR WORD-If you say one thing today and do something else tomorrow-who is going to take you seriously?
Thank you gentleman and lady. And no, I have not been familiar with your posts my lady.
*two cents*
I dont think you are being a dick at all....I really dont. Here is my take:
Q: Why does it seem that black women's self, self-esteem issues, and plight tend to be everyone's problem and fault but their own? Real talk: Because sometimes it it is a painful realization for some people. It is easier to pass blame onto someone else than to sit and look within. Some women have inherited this type of behavior from not just family, but their surroundings. When talking about self esteem some women have been around so much bullshit, that they think it's normal. They have been a doormat so long and allowed someone to walk over them that they feel they dont deserve anything better. Then wallow in self pity because of what has been done to them......They have seen it in their own home growing up. with their friends and such that they feel it is the way it is supposed to be. Have you ever argued w/ someome w/ low self esteem? They make logic off why their hardship is YOUR fault. In their head they have forced themselves to believe they are right. Deep down they know better. But they rather fight that pain, because it is too hurtful to realize their mess is their own fault for what they have allowed.
Why is no one stressing that to our women? Why does it seem the it's always "it's everyone's/ everything's fault but mine" is the standard train of thought? Here is the thing...I stress this all the time. And catch hell from alot of women because of it. There are maybe 2 or 3 people on this very board who know my WHOLE story. What I have been through, things I have seen and why I am who I am today. I could be angry, bitter and twisted but for what? That would be giving other folks and their actions control of me. Screw that. I have control of me and my own actions. I choose to be happy, I choose to work w/ women who want & need help to feel better for themselves. But in doing that...They have to WANT better or more w/ their lives. You ask why arent people stressing what needs to be said to black women? It is because some people dont have black women in their best interests. Some people TELL these broken hearted, bitter sisters what they want to hear. Sometimes for $$, self gain or sheer entertainment. I have personally witnessed someone tell someone to do some bullshit and make a fool of themselves just for laughs. And that sister did it....And when I tried to tell her to fall back, I got my ass handed to me. Why? because it was easier to act out and make a fool of herself..Thats all she knew...And the person who gave her the advice knew that..And she laughed behind her back.
Also-people love to talk about negativity....Just look at this board! People rather talk about negative posts, than when someone drops science and says something positive i.e....Why you arent familiar already w/ my stance on this subject
I have 4 suggestions to sisters who are struggling w/ self esteem and blame game issues:
LOOK WITHIN-You have to realize your hand in your downfall.
KNOW YOUR SELF WORTH-You are valuable and deserve happiness
LET GO OF NEGATIVITY-I stay happy, because I cut negativity out of my life by any means necessary.
STAND BY YOUR WORD-If you say one thing today and do something else tomorrow-who is going to take you seriously?
good stuff
Yes. This can be accomplished without treating her like a child. Your responsibility, as a man, is to gain knowledge, wisdom, and understanding of the universe and self and guide your mate on the proper path.
no doubt!
so stop trashing my planet!!!
so stop trashing my planet!!!
The black woman is Earth?
Great videos and insight provided...
THIS (discussion and thought-provoking videos) is why I hang around this joint still
THIS (discussion and thought-provoking videos) is why I hang around this joint still
Fam, please do not throw down a beautiful napkin on a bare table and then tell me the table is set.
If it was as simple as guiding them there trust me "we" as a collective would be there but how do you guide someone who physically/mentally/emotionally/spiritually (pick one or all) doesn't want to be lead, doesn't think their is anywhere they need to go (AKA "Nothing wrong with me! The problem is____"), or worse yet, thinks they should lead? How is that done without on some level, treating her like a child? Please explain that to me...
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Fam, please do not throw down a beautiful napkin on a bare table and then tell me the table is set.
Please explain that to me...
*two cents*
Well first YOU have to be physically/mentally/emotionally/and spiritually prepared to lead. I'm not saying that I am fully prepared in all of those areas right now, but I work towards it daily, and will be.
The best way to lead, without treating her like a child, is by example. Don't go into it like "look bitch, I got the answers and you're gonna listen" it's not going to work. If you live your life the correct way, she'll follow. But like I said, make sure YOUR shit is straight first.
Check out "Spirit of a Man" by Iyanla Vanzant if you're really trying to gain insight into this topic.
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