That would have to be a/b * c
Cause I would write it out, a÷b*c
not a÷(b*c) which is an entirely different animal.
48÷2(9+3) = ????
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That would have to be a/b * c
Cause I would write it out, a÷b*c
not a÷(b*c) which is an entirely different animal.
I think you meant ambiguity is subjective. When you get down to it no one is multiplying or dividing incorrectly the only issue is the order of operations. There is a clear rule with the left to right order of operations and there is a not so clear but none the less valid interpretation that implicit multiplication or implicit fraction type grouping may take precedence in the order of operations in this problem.
In reality it doesn't matter. This argument is purely academic. The writer of the problem knew what he meant he just didn't create the problem clear enough to illustrate that to the masses. Since no one from all the websites and people who have looked at this have come up with a definitive rule that applies it seems that it is ambiguous. You can argue all day your way is better but unless you have supporting evidence from a reputable source you are just going in circles.
But there is more than one answer or more than one way to interpret this problem. That was my point in posting all those text references and videos.
Depending on which convention is being used, you will get two different answers. I proved that to be the case. These rules are not made up out of thin air. They are documented and applied every. There's a reason why Excel and Google and other programs give 288 while Mathway gives you 2. They use their own rules.
A programmer doesnt apply the implied multiplication rule and will legitimately get 288 because of the special rules they abide by.
Another person will get 2 if they abide by the implied multiplication rule and thats a legit answer.
If you dont believe what Ive typed prove me wrong other wise but I posted all the proofs I can find to support my conclusion. I didnt make any of this up. I actually spent time searching and reading different perspectives on this topic.
Depending on which convention is being used, you will get two different answers. I proved that to be the case. These rules are not made up out of thin air. They are documented and applied every. There's a reason why Excel and Google and other programs give 288 while Mathway gives you 2. They use their own rules.
A programmer doesnt apply the implied multiplication rule and will legitimately get 288 because of the special rules they abide by.
Another person will get 2 if they abide by the implied multiplication rule and thats a legit answer.
If you dont believe what Ive typed prove me wrong other wise but I posted all the proofs I can find to support my conclusion. I didnt make any of this up. I actually spent time searching and reading different perspectives on this topic.
No, I meant ambiguity is objective.
Look, prior to the adoption of the order of operations, this WAS an ambiguous problem. Nothing subjective about that. There were multiple acceptable answers.
Math scholars noted this and adopted this order of operations with the specific purpose of addressing and removing this ambiguity. So to say, in 2011, that it is ambiguos is just false.
I'm sorry, I must have missed any proofs you've provided that show implied multiplication takes any preceedence.
The real question is would you smash the broad that made this 2 times or 288 times?
I'm going with 288!!
I'm going with 288!!
But the Order of Operations by Simplification says the answer to this equation is 2 fella.
The bitch that wrote the problem has a degree in Mathematics and says the answer is 2 fella..
I asked for a proof. Do you know what that is?
But then you just ask for another source right?
Proof.
I was arguing against Nathan and now hes backing me up
But then you just ask for another source right?
No in fact they haven't and that's the problem. Notation rules were created by programers of computers calculators etc. with the purpose of making the operations simple for their particular purposes. The original order of operation rules were created before everyone had computers and graphing calculators. Students that were taught after these inventions have a different understanding. You have to understand order of operations is simply a translation issue. What do we translate this equation to mean. If I ask you what does a fresh mean your grandma might say it means something is new you might say it means cool. Neither is wrong I wasn't clear enough about what fresh I was talking about.
We have had people put this equation into different calculators with different results. These were calculators created by very intelligent programmers and mathematicians. The problem in my eyes is not with the calculator but with the input.
Then why was it adopted?
Bear in mind that it was adopted LONG before computers existed, so this wasn't created by programmers. Programmers just make a point to use it correctly.
Do you? Here ya go...
proof
/pruf/
–noun
1. evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth.
2. anything serving as such evidence: What proof do you have?
Intermediate Algebra
By Ron Larson, Kimberly Nolting
pg 17
You want a mathematical proof dont you.
See trek, this is the nicca you got in your corner?
This just reaffirms my assertion that the 2ers haven't dealt with math problems since grade school yet feel qualified to act as an authority on the subject.
Don't even know what a proof is
This just reaffirms my assertion that the 2ers haven't dealt with math problems since grade school yet feel qualified to act as an authority on the subject.
Don't even know what a proof is
Intermediate Algebra
By Ron Larson, Kimberly Nolting
pg 17
I guess you don't know what a proof is either
See trek, this is the nicca you got in your corner?
This just reaffirms my assertion that the 2ers haven't dealt with math problems since grade school yet feel qualified to act as an authority on the subject.
Don't even know what a proof is
Now I dont know what proof is. Proof is evidence right? Or are you creating your own definition of proof to make yourself right like you're doing with these examples you're concocting?
The chick that created the problem has a degree in Mathematics. You think its been since grade school that shes touched a Math problem? Really?
They are asking for a mathematical proof, not empirical evidence.
I guess you don't know what a proof is either
You didnt say mathematical proof.
I was proving that such rule exist. If you dont, tell me why not?
This is the best Meme ever.. This Jap chick sucessfully trolled the vast majority of the internet.
There's a difference between saying "a proof" and "proof" ESPECIALLY within the context of a thread on a math problem...but I guess it was ambiguous
I've shown the answer to the underlined above and have asked your opinion on it.
Mathematicians use implied multiplication in writing expressions to shorten the expression. Instead of writing 2 · x or 2 × x, write 2x. The multiplication of 2 and x is implied.
References
DeLury, Alfred T.. Intermediate Algebra, pg 5. The Copp, Clark Company Limited, 1904. (Accessed: 2010-02-11). http://www.archive.org/stream/intermediatealge00delu#page/5/mode/1up/search/implied.
References
DeLury, Alfred T.. Intermediate Algebra, pg 5. The Copp, Clark Company Limited, 1904. (Accessed: 2010-02-11). http://www.archive.org/stream/intermediatealge00delu#page/5/mode/1up/search/implied.
There's a difference between saying "a proof" and "proof" ESPECIALLY within the context of a thread on a math problem...but I guess it was ambiguous
I've shown the answer to the underlined above and have asked your opinion on it.
Most axioms dont have proofs, they are believed to be true
Christ, you're acting real God_debris-like right now....are you ever going to address my proof?
What good is a proof that you're applied your on intentions to? Kind of pointless right? I'm still gonna rank implied multiplication high, and you're still gonna lower its importance..
Nice48÷2(9+3) = 48÷[2(9+3)]
48÷[2*9+2*3]
48÷[18+6]
48÷24
2
see:
a÷b(c+d)
a÷[bc+bd]
answer 2
*how you doing weirdo?*
I´ve never seen anything take over the web like this... this shit is super troll materal...
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