NFL Regular Season and Being the Best Team

[Costanza]

Why even pay attention to the NFL regular season? The shit is totally random. Trying to pick NFL games is like trying to predict who is going to win a game of dice.

Because of the one-and-done nature of the sport, you could have the best team in history not making it as far as a sub-.500 team. I find this "Any Given Sunday" shit unentertaining and prefer championships that have more to do with demonstration of excellence and skill than chance.

 

[Spectrum]

Trying to pick NFL games is like trying to predict who is going to win a game of dice.
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That is what makes the NFL so great man. One thing I hate about the NBA, for example, is the predictability of it.

 

[alexw]

any given sunday is what make football the ratings monster it is and will continue to be

a fan knows his/her team has a chance every sunday

and even the worse teams are competitive

now look at the nba

 

[Dark19]

Why even pay attention to the NFL regular season? The shit is totally random. Trying to pick NFL games is like trying to predict who is going to win a game of dice.

Because of the one-and-done nature of the sport, you could have the best team in history not making it as far as a sub-.500 team. I find this "Any Given Sunday" shit unentertaining and prefer championships that have more to do with demonstration of excellence and skill than chance.

Parity vs. Powerhouses....Some Love the Randomness Because it Has Given Their Traditionally Doormat Teams Rings, While others Like Yourself Prefer the Dynasty's of Old Showing Dominance and if a Doormat Wishes to Get a Ring They Should Have to Pass Through Sustained Excellence(49ers,cowboys,steelers types) as Oppossed to Microwave Dynasty's (patriots)

 

[JD Walker]

This is cap era football, I don't understand why you fans are continuously surprised at the parity in the league.

Fortunately I grew up watching pre-cap era football. Back the the team with the best regular season record was going to the Superbowl, bottomline, very few upsets and surprises. You knew you were watching the best of the best come Superbowl Sunday.

 

[Costanza]

That is what makes the NFL so great man. One thing I hate about the NBA, for example, is the predictability of it.

We have very different approaches on this one... To me, the 2007 Pats are the best reason to watch NFL football and the 2010 Seahawks are the main reason to cut it off.

In the NBA, being a #1 seed means something. It doesn't mean you'll make it to the finals but the achievement is an indicator that this is a contending team. A #8 beating a #1 is very rare and that's the way it should be. In the NFL, the seedings are pretty much indistinguishable from one another. It doesn't matter at all what you did in the regular season, which makes me wonder why it's worth following.

 

[Blunt]

Why even pay attention to the NFL regular season? The shit is totally random. Trying to pick NFL games is like trying to predict who is going to win a game of dice.

Huh??? You still wanna have home field advantage and a first-round bye if possible (as well as a low-seeded opponent). It helps most of the time, though upsets certainly do happen. You always run the risk of coming up flat after a two-week layoff.

 

[Spectrum]

We have very different approaches on this one... .

I definitely get your point...but again..I think that is the beauty in it....but I can understand your point completely though.

 

[Costanza]

any given sunday is what make football the ratings monster it is and will continue to be

a fan knows his/her team has a chance every sunday

and even the worse teams are competitive

now look at the nba

If the Seahawks won the Superbowl this year, that would be cause to put the game on ignore IMO.

Where is the prestige in a championship when the worst teams can compete for it?

 

[Blunt]

If the Seahawks won the Superbowl this year, that would be cause to put the game on ignore IMO.

Where is the prestige in a championship when the worst teams can compete for it?

Did you complain when the Giants won in 2007?? Worst team to ever win.

 

[MonkeyBizness]

Did you complain when the Giants won in 2007?? Worst team to ever win.

You got nothing to say about the Pats losing AGAIN?

Wha'happen?



Jets Bitch! Fuck Brady. Fuck Bellicheat!

 

[Djmarkxr7]

Why even pay attention to the NFL regular season? The shit is totally random. Trying to pick NFL games is like trying to predict who is going to win a game of dice.

Because of the one-and-done nature of the sport, you could have the best team in history not making it as far as a sub-.500 team. I find this "Any Given Sunday" shit unentertaining and prefer championships that have more to do with demonstration of excellence and skill than chance.

Sorry bruh, but in the NFL you fully see what a TEAM sport is and just how important good coaching is.

 

[alexw]

If the Seahawks won the Superbowl this year, that would be cause to put the game on ignore IMO.

Where is the prestige in a championship when the worst teams can compete for it?

2 things

1) if seattle made it to the superbowl(by beating the best) then theyre a very good team

2) people naturally root for the underdog....that superbowl would be a ratings gem for the nfl

and although i get the point youre trying to make, football is much more of a team sport

take lebron james off of cleveland...theyre the worse team in the league

take tom brady off the pats.....they still win 10 games and their qb gets to start for KC

football is about a collective unit as the nba is about the individual player

therefore, it will always be competitive(especially with the cap) and coaching is much more important

 

[Djmarkxr7]

Did you complain when the Giants won in 2007?? Worst team to ever win.

Whoopsie, it's Mr. Sour Grapes again!

So if your team was beaten by the worst team to ever win, what does that make YOUR team???

 

[Artsho]

And that's why they play the game...!

 

[Bones]

Good thing I am not a betting man, I would have lost tons of money this season, lol

 

[Djmarkxr7]

We have very different approaches on this one... To me, the 2007 Pats are the best reason to watch NFL football and the 2010 Seahawks are the main reason to cut it off.

In the NBA, being a #1 seed means something. It doesn't mean you'll make it to the finals but the achievement is an indicator that this is a contending team. A #8 beating a #1 is very rare and that's the way it should be. In the NFL, the seedings are pretty much indistinguishable from one another. It doesn't matter at all what you did in the regular season, which makes me wonder why it's worth following.

Then isn't it funny that the 2007 Pats LOST the big one and the 2010 Seahawks BEAT the defending champs?!?

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

reg season means everything
you need to win to get in and coming into the season everyone and their fans believe they can get in
in the playoffs same thing applies, thats what makes it good
you have a chance and thats all anyone needs

 

[Spectrum]

Good thing I am not a betting man, I would have lost tons of money this season, lol

i dont understand how people can gamble on football

 

[Djmarkxr7]

If the Seahawks won the Superbowl this year, that would be cause to put the game on ignore IMO.

Where is the prestige in a championship when the worst teams can compete for it?

Dude, you're funny!

For you to make a statement like this about the NFL which has 32 teams and sends 12 to the play-offs vs. the NBA which only has 30 teams and yet sends 16 to the play-offs is (to quote Mike Tyson) simply ludicrous!

And let's not even BEGIN on hockey!

 

[P03t]

I wouldn't call Belly and the PATS a microwave team/dynasty and I hate the PATS....

they deserve their respect for what they have accomplished winning as much rings as they did in an Era were its hard just to make the playoffs after winning the Super Bowl....

the NFL is the most profitable League because of the "Any Given Sunday"

even bad teams have a chance....and I love the fact that it is 1 game....fuck all this best of 7 bullshit....its boring....like whats exciting watching the Celts Vs Bobcats best of 7....

YOU ALWAYS PRETTY MUCH KNOW THE OUTCOME.....

because of parity the NFL is much more exciting than any other major sport....

 

[P03t]

Dude, you're funny!

For you to make a statement like this about the NFL which has 32 teams and sends 12 to the play-offs vs. the NBA which only has 30 teams and yet sends 16 to the play-offs is (to quote Mike Tyson) simply ludicrous!

And let's not even BEGIN on hockey!

preach....

they complaining about the "hawks

how many yrs did the Eastern Conference send sub par .500 teams to the playoffs....

half the league makes the playoffs....

 

[Bones]

I like the exciement of one of games (not when my teams lose though ) but I also like the 7 games format because it is so definitive.

 

[HotNixon36]

The best team is the most cohesive and healthiest team at the right time. The record, good or bad, does not determine shit. Every team has different circumstances and situations that can't be corrected on or off the field.

Weak division? Are your top players hurt or suspended? Bad coaching? Are you winning on turnovers caused, big plays, or solid football? Easy schedule? Weather? Bad refereeing? Mental mistakes? Locker room issues?

If Romo was healthy and Wade was fired earlier, Cowboys would have won more games. If Aaron Rodgers had not had the concussions, Packers would be playing home games in the playoffs. If Reggie Bush never got hurt and lost confidence, Saints would have won more games. If the Colts were healthier all season, they would have been much better. Kansas City was in a weak ass division. Without all the takeaways/breaks earlier in the year, the Redskins would not have won six games. The Pats have average talent on both sides of the ball, just great coaching.

If "if" was a spliff, then we would all be high, but truth is truth. The Patriots and Falcons were never at any point in the season, the best teams in the league. The Packers and the Jets were preseason Super Bowl picks at the beginning of the season because of talent and coaching analysis, not past season records.

 

[Costanza]

preach....

they complaining about the "hawks

how many yrs did the Eastern Conference send sub par .500 teams to the playoffs....

half the league makes the playoffs....

When is the last time a shitty team knocked off the defending champs in the first round of the NBA playoffs?

Road teams are 5-3-- 5-2 if you take the underdog Seahawks out of the equation. A few bad teams might make the playoffs in the NBA but the line between good and bad is never so blurry. In the NFL, you can hardly tell the good from the bad and might as well send the entire league to the playoffs.

People have a problem with the number of NBA playoff teams mainly because it prolongs the process, not because the presence of poorer teams doesn't make a mockery of the entire seeding process as in the NFL.

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

That is what makes the NFL so great man. One thing I hate about the NBA, for example, is the predictability of it.

This...

any given sunday is what make football the ratings monster it is and will continue to be

a fan knows his/her team has a chance every sunday

and even the worse teams are competitive

now look at the nba

and this.

 

[Costanza]

If the Seahawks won the Superbowl this year, that would be cause to put the game on ignore IMO.

Where is the prestige in a championship when the worst teams can compete for it?

Did you complain when the Giants won in 2007?? Worst team to ever win.

February 3rd, 2008.

From the thread "Wheres Blunt and Matt and the other bandwagon niggas that talked shit all yr?????"

If Burress dropped that pass and the Giants didn't score, would that make the Patriots perfect? Undefeated does not equal perfection; the Patriots were overrated-- the could have easily lost to Baltimore, for instance, or even the injury-plagued Chargers.

They're still a great team... Just not perfect and they wouldn't have been even if they won.

I'm a Giants fan, but this is kind of bittersweet because I do feel kind of sorry for the Patriots. They were a great team and I enjoyed watching them all season... They're going to be judged too harshly now after this loss.

I had a perfect estimation of the Giants abilities. We have two games to draw from to compare the 2007 Giants and Patriots and it is objectively clear from the record that the Giants were just as good.

A couple of mere FLUKES-- That Baltimore game and, thus, the entire campaign for "perfection" was a FLUKE-- elevate that team above where they should be properly judged. A record is a mere indicator of a teams ability; a 9-7 record is not evidence of a better team than one with an 8-8 record when the truth may be that the "superior" team did not earn one or more victories.

If the Patriots had finished 15-1 would that really make them a poorer team than if another team or an officiating crew happens to hand them the game in that one would-be loss?

Records are quite overrated... The evidence on the field suggests that the Giants were every bit as good as the Patriots.

 

[Costanza]

Then isn't it funny that the 2007 Pats LOST the big one and the 2010 Seahawks BEAT the defending champs?!?

Not really... If anything, it would support my statement.

 

[wiZe]

If the Seahawks won the Superbowl this year, that would be cause to put the game on ignore IMO.

Where is the prestige in a championship when the worst teams can compete for it?

Uh...the Seahawks never had a chance in hell to move past round 2. They beat the Saints because the Saints' D sucks complete shit and had no chance themselves of stopping anyone in the playoffs. The Seahawks O is known to click at times and put up tons of points...on average to sub-par defenses. You do the math. Once the Seahawks faced a good D (the Bears), they were put in their place. Thus, the Seahawks never really had a chance at shit but exactly what they are preparing to do now. Go fishing.

3 Teams that had no real chance of winning the Superbowl this year:

1. Seahawks.
2. Chiefs.
3. Saints.

 

[Sango]

"I find this "Any Given Sunday" shit unentertaining and prefer championships that have more to do with demonstration of excellence and skill than chance.

As a result of that statement, if you're a championship caliber team then you need to bring your demonstration of excellence and skill each Sunday. Yet, I've often wondered if the non-guarenteed contracts is what makes the players as good as they are. In contrast to the guarenteed contracts of NBA and MLB players (who are "stars") that crumble after their major deals.

 

[P03t]

When is the last time a shitty team knocked off the defending champs in the first round of the NBA playoffs?

Road teams are 5-3-- 5-2 if you take the underdog Seahawks out of the equation. A few bad teams might make the playoffs in the NBA but the line between good and bad is never so blurry. In the NFL, you can hardly tell the good from the bad and might as well send the entire league to the playoffs.

People have a problem with the number of NBA playoff teams mainly because it prolongs the process, not because the presence of poorer teams doesn't make a mockery of the entire seeding process as in the NFL.

.....Jets and Packers are both 10-6 and are 6th seeds....

Pitt and the Bears are both #2 seeds...12-4, 11-5

whats blurry about that.....The seahawks played a garbage Saints Defense.....

the Jets beat the Pats and the Jets are a good team.....

and I like the NBA but I'm not excited when its the same teams competing for a championship......

 

[alexw]

Records are quite overrated... The evidence on the field suggests that the Giants were every bit as good as the Patriots.

only on bgol

so what is the point of this thread????

 

[Costanza]

only on bgol

so what is the point of this thread????

I see where you detect a double standard but you can't compare the 2007 Giants to the 2010 Seahawks. The Giants were 10-6. I didn't claim records were MEANINGLESS; I said they were overrated but an indicator. Specifically comparing the Giants and Patriots I was drawing on their Superbowl victory and their very close week 17 defeat in assessing the match-up as a virtual draw.

 

[Costanza]

"I find this "Any Given Sunday" shit unentertaining and prefer championships that have more to do with demonstration of excellence and skill than chance.

As a result of that statement, if you're a championship caliber team then you need to bring your demonstration of excellence and skill each Sunday. Yet, I've often wondered if the non-guarenteed contracts is what makes the players as good as they are. In contrast to the guarenteed contracts of NBA and MLB players (who are "stars") that crumble after their major deals.

I think you're just less likely to notice players in the NBA because teams are saddled with their contract but if an NFL players performance "crumbles" and he doesn't live up to his contract, he's just cut. That's a HUGE different in public perception when, say, Rashard Lewis's decline and big contract are inescapable issues for his team. Meanwhile in the NFL, you could sign Donovon McNabb to a billion dollar contract and as long as you cut him by the right day there are no ramifications.

 

[Philli]

The best team in the NFL is not always the Super Bowl winner. Home Field doesn't seem to matter much in the playoffs when you have two teams that play outdoors in the cold for every home game (Jets and Packers). The NFL is very unpredictable when it comes to the playoffs and that is why it is popular.

I want the champion of course to be the best team in the sport. It seems unsettling when a good team wins the championship yet they are not the best team in their league. Look at this past year's Duke Men's basketball team. They were clearly not the best team in the NCAA and had a pretty easy way to get to the National Championship game where they played Butler! Come on really... Butler? Runner up? 2nd best team last year... of course not.

A 7 game series doesn't always mean the best team wins though, as the MLB playoffs are very unpredictable and the best team doesn't always win.

The NBA usually crowns the best team as the champions year after year and seems to be the only league (other then maybe hockey) to do so. No matter what is happening in the NBA right now, we all know that when the playoffs are going on, that only either the Celtics, Lakers, and maybe Spurs have a chance to win the NBA Finals.