Naruto Manga Discussion

I still don't see why konan would destroy the bodies, She had the special hidden cemetery setup for herself and her friends with a full proof plan she thought to stop madara if he came for Nagato's body. They might have mentioned the best way to prevent someone from stealing someones secret was to destroy their body, but I dont think any village in their right mind would do that. IF a powerful comrade die, even with the risk of having some bad guy steal the deceased body, it would be crazy for a village to destroy the body especially with all the secrets they could learn themselves.
 
So you see how Kishi says one thing, but does not follow through? That is my point. Why even bother stating that their bodies should be disposed of, but don't follow through with it? A major story flaw to me...

And that is just one example. I'm just saying if you are going to state something initially, something that all characters within your story should adhere to, then why not have those characters follow through on that? And if not give some just cause as to why not. Don't say left, then go right with no explanation aside from, "I'm the writer so deal with it". Writing like that is very irksome to me. One of the reasons why there are so many DC & Marvel books I don't read anymore.

Consider the source, Haku was bullshitting so he can grab Zabuza and leave.
 
@ Bkenshin, I agree with you totally, and its currently the reason why I'm having so much trouble trying to 'understand' that last story blasted thing made no sense whatsoever!

Same here. I just want this manga to be over with. Want to see the end game already (well the full pic b/c it is pretty clear as to what will happen down the line). After reading so many other works from other mangaka & other indie writers, the stuff that is pulled in this manga does for the most part does not amount to much sense. :confused::smh:

I still don't see why konan would destroy the bodies, She had the special hidden cemetery setup for herself and her friends with a full proof plan she thought to stop madara if he came for Nagato's body. They might have mentioned the best way to prevent someone from stealing someones secret was to destroy their body, but I dont think any village in their right mind would do that. IF a powerful comrade die, even with the risk of having some bad guy steal the deceased body, it would be crazy for a village to destroy the body especially with all the secrets they could learn themselves.

That is understandable, but to have someone else have the body for memorial sake is reckless to me. They don't have to keep the body forever (in the case of it's own village having it), they can get what secrets/techs they can from it - then make it so no one else can obtain them. When you just leave something like that practically lying around in the dirt or some tomb, you are just waiting for trouble to happen IMO.
 
Oh Snap...

Translation by saladesu of MH:

512 The truth behind Zetsu!

Bee had chased after the shark carrying the scroll, but had failed to catch up with it.
Guy has collapsed. Naruto is worried, and there are dead sharks all around.
Guy faints in agony when Naruto touches him.
Yamato: It's the pain of the after-effects of using the eight gates.
Naruto quickly lets go, hurting Guy further.
Yamato: Carefully! Carefully!!
The information had gotten wet within the Mizurou no Jutsu (water prison), so making contact had to be delayed. Bee's friend writes the letter and sends out the bird, which flies off holding the letter.
Aoba: We have to move Naruto and Bee somewhere else!
Bee returns: It didn't work~ that rascal~♪
Naruto and Bee are to stay on this island, because it is not on any maps
This island is a moving fortress.

The turtle that Guy kuchiyose-d is talking to a huge turtle
It is a giant turtle that was being kept by Kumogakure since a very long time ago (the island Naruto and Bee are on is on the turtle's back)

Bee's friend: Furthermore, we've told Naruto about a survey on the ecology on this island. He would suspect something if we were to move him from the island.

Kabutomaru: I will be the one to go to where the Kyuubi and Hachibi are. This is a good chance for you to come to trust me. Shodai Hokage is also one of the targets for my experiments. If that's no good, then Zetsu's body is fine too.
Madara: It seems you've been doing your homework.
Kabutomaru: According to Kisame's intel, the allied forces amount to 80,000 ninjas. But the vital part of our troops is this Zetsu, correct? With the research materials and knowledge that I've gathered, I can certainly make Zetsu even stronger. If you bring me there, that is.
Madara: If you come back with the Kyuubi, I'll give you one Zetsu. Follow me.
When he opens the door, Gedou Mazou is... Coming down the stairs in front of them.
Kabutomaru: This is
Madara: Thats right, this thing is alive.
Hashirama is coming out of the wall with a nume~ (TN: this is an SFX. can't think of an equivalent)
Madara: This is Shodai Hokage Senju Hashirama. Of course, it's nothing more than the cultivation of living cells I'd stolen from him. It doesn't have a consciousness.

Allied troops headquarters. There are a ton of shinobi present.
Tsuchikage: To think that the fact that we had come here had been leaked...
Tsunade: What are we going to do about the island? Even though it's an island that can move locations, I can't relax about it
Raikage: It can't be seen in the clouds. The enemy won't be able to find it in the first place
Gaara: But Kisame must have indicated the location of the island on a map. Even if it moves, they will look everywhere to find it

Kifune: We should send reinforcements. Just a few, as there would be no meaning to it should the enemy discover them because they move in a large group.

Water is dripping... A cave?
Kabutomaru: This is amazing
Madara: But there is also a risk. In order to create something like this, I had to use the chakra from within Mazou, and I want to preserve that as much as possible. The further away the revival of the Juubi is, that just means I need to delay my plan further.
Kabutomaru: How many are there here?
Madara: Roughly 100,000. (They are all white Zetsus, all standing upright)
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Tsuchikage: I will go (as reinforcements)!!
Gaara stops him
Tsuchikage cannot do anything since his back is always hurting
Gaara says that it'll be faster if he travels via his sand.

Kabutomaru: Well, you all just take your time
He boards one of Deidara's birds, Deidara is beside him.

Right before the big battle. Kabuto draws near seeking power!!
The end.
It appears they are heading to where Bee and Naruto are. Deidara hasn't spoken yet.
 
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K SideShow so let me get this straight, this is the first Hokage that he's made into Zetsu? This story is getting pretty ridiculous now, so what happens to Naruto's development now ?
 
K SideShow so let me get this straight, this is the first Hokage that he's made into Zetsu? This story is getting pretty ridiculous now, so what happens to Naruto's development now ?
what do u mean his development? HE will keep training and all the villages will team up for a big battle against madara
 
so what is the point of the hundred thousand bodies???! this shit is about to jump the shark..... or maybe it has and I havent realized it
 
so what is the point of the hundred thousand bodies???! this shit is about to jump the shark..... or maybe it has and I havent realized it

Well madara does need an army if he is going to war with the shinobi world.
 
So we will see if 100,000 weak versions of the first hokage will take out the shinobi nation...

this is going to be a slobberknocker
 
If madara is so strong....why not just have him fight everyone?


I know that is ridiculous.....but im just sayin....why not???


and why would he send Kabuto to do some shit that he should be doing?! Im sure that ninja has learned his lesson and he should be going after Naruto directly....so here comes another level up for Naruto.....somehow
 
So we will see if 100,000 weak versions of the first hokage will take out the shinobi nation...

this is going to be a slobberknocker
i dont think zetsu is the first hokage, but I think madara is racist because he only cloned the white zetsu and not the black

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anyone check out Naruto 180??? The ending had the most taijutsu ive ever seen Naruto do in the whole series....


:smh:
 
i dont think zetsu is the first hokage, but I think madara is racist because he only cloned the white zetsu and not the black

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Not the first... I thought they grew a zetsu with the hokage's sample there?

lol, black zetsu too strong.
 
513 Kabuto vs Tsuchikage

With the Tsuchikage's jutsu, Kurotsuchi, Akatsuchi and Tsuchikage take off into the sky.

Kabuto opens Deidara's head with a kunai and does ? with ? (TN: yes the ? are there in the Japanese spoiler)
Kabuto: I'm using a different talisman from Orochimaru-sama. I won't restrict you, Deidara. I don't even understand fine arts
Deidara: That's okay, there's no way you could understand my fine art that easily, yeah
Kabuto: Yeah. Anyway, the explosion you set off right before you died... It became quite the topic of discussion
Deidara: I told you, didn't I? You can't understand it that easily. To that that would take time. Ye... Yeah.

Naruto makes all the animals line up in a row, to the amusement of Guy and Bee.
Bee's friend: We'll have all the animals take shelter in the big turtle's shell
Aoba: Since we told him we were here to do a survey on the ecology, he'll probably want to do this
Yamato: If Naruto gets wind of the war, it won't be good. He isn't going to stay silent if we don't prevent him from finding out. After all, it's a war to protect Naruto himself.

Kabuto: About the coordinates of this place... They're shifting, aren't they
Tsuchikage suddenly punches Kabuto
Kabuto: Launching an ambush on me, are we, Tsuchikage?
Tsuchikage: Why do you have this bird and Deidara?
What Tsuchikage had punched was a clay bunshin of Kabuto, which then breaks apart
Deidara: It's been a while, Old man Oonoki. This Deidara here's a clay bunshin too
Next to them is a bird with the real Deidara and kabuto
Then Deidara goes "Katsu!!" and the bunshin explodes!!

Naurto can't tell if an armadillo is male or female so goes to ask Bee
Bee: The armadillo's a shy one ♪ It isn't proper to check its sex ♪
Naruto: But this is an ecology survey!
Bee: I'll keep quiet about this so you just go report that it's a female ♪
Naruto: But it's written on the armadillo's back that it's a male. Go ask that old man. He's the boss of this palce right?
Bee: I'll lend a listening ear and ask the armadillo
Bee: Private is privacy ♪
Naruto: No wonder this is an S-rank mission~~~!!
Bee: Even if the sex has been reversed YO it's not like the world has been turned upside down. What an idiot, this bastard!
In the water there is a huge snake... Bee's friend senses the abnormality
The huge squid in the sea also senses it

Deidara has exploded the bunshin. The tsuchikage next to him had been a clay bunshin made by Akatsuchi
"Why are you alive" and other aori
Deidara: I was supposed to have killed Sasuke!!
Tsuchikage: (It seems like you don't know anything... Deidara)
Kabuto: It couldn't be that it came here without us doing anything?

Bee's friend: Has this location been found out already?
The big snake bites the big turtle's tail, turtle screams
At that sound, the location of the island has been revealed
Kabuto, Deidara fly there in a hurry, with tsuchikage hot on their heels

The island rocks, Naruto thinks its an earthquake
The snake won't let go of the turtle's tail
Kabuto: (Using all types of medicines on Manda's cells~~~ That is the 2nd Generation Manda. It surpasses the original Manda in size, strength and perception!
Deidara gets a shock when he sees the island
Kabuto: It isn't an island, it's on a turtle. And in there wait the Hachibi and Kyuubi
Deidara: You mean that Naruto guy's in there! Yeah!
Kabuto: I'm going to stop the shaking of the island. Deidara, the biggest one please

The 2nd gen Manda gets onto the island

In the sea, the jellyfish Deidara made is below the turtle

Deidara: I'm going to explode it

All the animals have been flipped on their backs too
Yamato: Mokuton: Jukai Kotan (birth of a sea of trees)!!
He calls forth a whole lot of trees to form a cushion for the animals
Naruto: This is some crazy earthquake
Bee: The world is really turning upside down. What an idiot, this bastard!
Naruto looks at the flipped-over Armadillo. It was a male after all.
Yamato: This is hardly the time to be carrying out an ecology survey---!!
Bee's friend: It's definite that something is happening out there. But please play along with him about this being an earthquake!

Kabuto lands on the island
Deidara: I'll handle those guys. I have some debts to pay off
Tsuichikage: Deidara, you should know how dreadful I can be...
Deidara: Oh crap, the old man's snapped
Tsuchikage: You haven't forgotten, have you
Tsuchikage makes something like a cero in his two hands (TN: for non-bleach fans, a cero is like some bullet of light)

The strongest elderly shinobi's livid!!
 
they making kabuto too overpowered with this clone resurrection shit. The resurrected are supposedly as powerful as when they were alive and he has nagato, Itachi and some trump card. How is anyone suppose to beat him now? Im sure the Nagato is gonna someone have the rennigan too.
 
they making kabuto too overpowered with this clone resurrection shit. The resurrected are supposedly as powerful as when they were alive and he has nagato, Itachi and some trump card. How is anyone suppose to beat him now? Im sure the Nagato is gonna someone have the rennigan too.


I hear what you're saying fam., but they were all on the same team before and someone killed them. If people fight them now, they'll better know their achilles heel. Well... at least they should know their achillies heel.
 
I hear what you're saying fam., but they were all on the same team before and someone killed them. If people fight them now, they'll better know their achilles heel. Well... at least they should know their achillies heel.
no one beat nagato or itachi, they both pretty much sacrificed themselves
 
soooo...... what happens when Sasuke realizes Kabuto is alive and carrying on Orochimaru's work?

























What happens when he finds out Kabuto has Itachi's body??? :smh:
 
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