yo sean why u erased ur reponse?
When did the Black community become so Godless?
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The majority of black women I know still strongly believe so I don't think the right question is about the Black community becoming Godless.
The correct questions are when and why do we now have no problem fucking over and killing each other? Why are killings now the norm instead of the exception, especially with our youth.
A few problems I see is we don't see each other as brothers and sisters anymore we're niggas now something basically sub-human. We lack self pride, we hate upon our own who gain any level of success.
Our sisters are now looked upon as bitches and sex objects. Someone to fuck not someone to love, have a long term relationship with just someone to fuck.
An many of our women have these delusional ideals about themselves. They will spend $500 to pamper themselves rather than pay their bills. Then cry about how unfair the electric company is when their service gets cut off.
Drugs are a problem too because of the addictions and the need to feed those addictions via theft or robbery. But the biggest problem within our communities is right between our ears. We don't think out our decisions. Just look at the pregnancy, STD and AIDS stats within our communities.
We don't need God's guidance for anything I listed its all common sense.
Sorry for the rant.
Often many of those things you mention, fill the vacuum that God should fill. And yet the very thing we need is the thing we say we don't need.
Mad complicated, I agree. But have you ever formulated the solutions of a free falling body along a tautochrone curve using the Euler-Lagrange equation?
Fuck you too nicca. That's my new response.
Nah, it wasn't really relevant to the thread plus i've beaten it to death in other threads.
lol fuck u talkin about? i said fuck naturalistic cuz exile said he's leaving cuz natural came inLOL
I'm sure I'd agree with SOMETHING in some Sumerian text somewhere, but I'm under no illusion that ANY human or group of humans have had it all together.
Behold a Pale horse? yeah I read some of it years ago. Not really interested.
Introducing something like that kinda throws off the topic of the thread, which is whether or not one believes in God.
I don't think there is one, at least not in the sense that most people describe it.
People feel the need to pretend to know something we have no way of knowing.
I would say that would make me agnostic, and I am about many things that deal with that, but I live my life thinking about it, about as much as I think about unicorns in everyday life.
I get involved in these God debates, because as a non believer, you get asked questions on WHY you wouldn't believe, so it's become something I've had to learn to keep believers out of my face, but truly, I don't care.
Morality is where it's at for me. It belongs to itself, not religion. Trying to pretend theres a being that is all moral and all knowing, kinda slows down the process to me.
I have not seen where belief in a god would make one more or less moral, so I would like to see people acknowledge that and move forward.
Oh. My bad
LOL
*put gloves away* So... as I was saying ...
What does it matter what you believe, surely how you act is far more important???
People act on what they believe, which makes belief important.
Everything we do, first starts in the mind. What a person believes therefore informs those things we do. Even if we do those things which are contrary to the things we believe, at least the belief is there in the first place, even if it act as a measurement against our actions.
If that free falling body wasn't getting whatever desired effect from me just looking at it and trying to simplify it, then I would WELCOME whoever knew that equation, and I asssume they would get that effect quicker than I would, dropping some shit over and over, and over....
Formulas are good for that. Yeh, there are tradeoffs for what we know, but I'd rather be sitting in the comfort of my air conditioned home, postulating with someone who's face I've never seen, connecting with people far beyond my immediate circle, confirming or disporving some of my own thoughts and ideas, and having the OPTION of not having all this, than just... living in the primitive past.
I don't envy primitive man AT ALL, even with everything we have going on today.
I'm bout to call some brazilian waxed puss over on my cel phone and maybe stick her vibrator in it. Technology, used correctly, has it's benefits.
Right on the money!!
Why the fuck can't motherfuckers understand this quote right here, That is my answer to every fuckin question I get as to why I don't believe in fairy tales. I also tell motherfucker that christianity is a relatively new religion, and who are you bitches to tell people before that bullshit, that they were wrong. Conceited assholes!!
not true. Again, many christians "believe", and they do the same shit or worse than a set of the same number of non believers would ever do, on average.
as far as why the book was mentioned is because in one chapter William cooper talks about how the aliens tell the govt in one instance that they created us and created our math and our schooling and our religious beliefs to keep us in the dark about the real truth
and i can relate that to the summerian scripctures
where if translated correctly it says that the anunnaki(aliens) created us at first to be their slaves because they needed the resources of our planet
but then the God of life Enki who is considered lucifer in the bible gave us knowledge and created us in their image cuz he didnt like the idea of us just being slaves, he wanted us to grow mentally and that how the summerians supposedly came about
but like i said, I dont know, and you r right we do have the need to pretend to know something we have no way of knowing how
so i agree
thats why at the end of the day my hardcore true answer is I dont know
i just like sharing info i read to see what others have to say about it, maybe i can learn more, ya know?
#bigdaddybukalert.
He's gonna come in here and tell us that that whole thing is made up.
see what I said in my first response to you?
Depending on the nuances, your shit's a fairy tale too. Now you've come in with some shit about ALiens, Annunaki, Enki, Satan, and all that shit that you can't prove to save your life.
How is this different from Jesus and his sky daddy?
I'm not touching any of that with a ten foot pole.
yeah, but ultimately how they BEHAVE is way more important to ME than what they believe.
Christians don't annoy me just because they believe that shit- half the time, especially with apologists they are never honest about what they believe. Instead of trying to examine someones mind and heart all the time, I'd rather deal with how you act.
cuz you can LIE about what you blieve, but ya can't lie about what ya did, if I witnessed it.
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It happened in the 70s and shit, during all that revolution bullcrap. black people think by going against religion, they are riding themselves of their slave past, not knowing they have merely replaced one religion with another of materialism and ignorance we are playing checkers while the white man is playing chess.
i understand and im not passing this off as facts, im just throwing it out there to say that this is supposedly what the first advanced civilization says
im not saying i completely agree
im just saying if one can believe in christianity they shouldnt throw this away when its earlier than christianity
and honestly this shit makes way more sence than the sky daddy and his son, im just saying
once again tho i dont know, so please dont take what im saying with so much weight
im just sayin if i had to choose i would choose this story over the modern religious stories. thats all im sayin
and I'm saying- if that's what the sumerian scriptures you like to read says- that shit's already been debunked, which is why the later religions could take the parts that would make it, and evolved it.
I wouldn't take the advice from primitive men on how the world started and what it's about. Nothing beyond minor shit like, how to start a fire without matches, or how to kill and eat something IF I'm in that realm, cuz I don't have to do such things in modern society.
You're still missing my point. I wasn't making an argument of the utility newer complex ideas vs simpler older ones. I'm talking about which one offers a more complete description and explanation for phenomena. Like you said, there's good and bad ideas on both ends. Obviously most people would rather take an Advil than ride out a migraine. But that dudes account of scripture was no more complicated than a long ass math equation.
But they still believe in something, some normative rules that inform their decisions and behavior. That's the point I think he was making
Let's all agree for the sake of argument that religion/spirituality are based on LIES.
Does it make the good lives/lives that benefit humanity/lives of compassion/laws of compassion/legal systems based on such principles of fairness and compassion WORTHLESS?
Judge the EFFECT not the cause. It's like a dude who became rich reading and IMPLEMENTING the inspiration he got from Robert Kiyosaki's RIch Dad Poor Dad. We all know Kiyosaki's a fraud at worst, a creative writer at best. But that doesn't mean it doesn't produce REAL EFFECTS in people who believe. Effects that benefit others, right?
Does it make the good lives/lives that benefit humanity/lives of compassion/laws of compassion/legal systems based on such principles of fairness and compassion WORTHLESS?
Judge the EFFECT not the cause. It's like a dude who became rich reading and IMPLEMENTING the inspiration he got from Robert Kiyosaki's RIch Dad Poor Dad. We all know Kiyosaki's a fraud at worst, a creative writer at best. But that doesn't mean it doesn't produce REAL EFFECTS in people who believe. Effects that benefit others, right?
I'm not arguing that christians don't do equally as bad if not worse things than non-believers. After all a christian is a human being having flesh and flesh that is able to be tempted. Flesh that is sinful in its nature.
In the book of Joh it writes that if a man says that he has not sinned that, that man is a liar and the truth is not in him. Truth is we sin everyday, sometimes when we least know it. You see we are not to measure ourselves in righteousness against each other, that is not what we are told to be, but to check ourselves as it were against God. Jesus said be perfect as I am perfect.
Christians are too busy measuring themselves against one another that they forget who they are to perfect themselves against, who is the true measurement of success.
gimme an example. I don't see how you can divide simplicity and utility.
yeah, I remember that. It was all bullshit
1. Do you have a credible source for the claim in red above?
2. I agree with you that religious dogmatic beliefs are irrational/illogical but your last sentence is hardly an argument against religion. CACs actually used and applied Christianity to fuck 99% of the world up.
see, you're using a book that is a terribly unreliable tool for life.
It's factually off on hundreds of things, inconsistent, full of immoral and deceitful acts, yet people for some reason believe it's the word of god--
No one can prove there is no god, but it's absolutely true that the God of the Bible, Koran, Torah whichever... is TOTALLY made up, and as useless as the greek and roman Gods that no one believes in anymore.
On top of all that, the bible simply isn't even really a good book.
Not many of you who believe in it can even read it cover to cover.
I agree here. That is one thing that pisses me off, cuz it's so confusing how someone can believe the shit they believe, and literally be SMARTER than me in some scientific or mathematical thing... or financial. It should stand to reason that people who are religious are not skeptical, but they are about certain things.
i think these people knew more than making a fire without matches
they knew about all the planets and they were masters of astrology
this is from 2500 bc look at the planets
and this is supposedly enki creating the first human see the tree of life behind him and the hums being created
just sayin
I actually disagree with you in part on a few things. I don't think the bible is filled with immoral and deceitful acts more than the bible is just being real about man. It does not cover r sugar coat certain things that went on but tells us every juicy detail about man's failings and also those things he excelled at and pleased God. It leaves out nothing.
As for its accuracy well this is more a question of how accurate you think the bible really needs to be ?
Why do you think the bible as to be accurate to the last letter number and dot ?
the bible is supposed to be the word of God, yes?
It's also supposed to be a hitory book, and prophetic, yes?
It's also supposed to be a guide to life as well.
If I were to claim something to be the word of GOD for ALL HUMANS, I would think it wouldn't be so easy to misinterpret, and not have to cherry pick when something is literal or figurative.
I can't believe we still even have to discuss this on 2010.
This goes for Islam as well. I'm sorry to inform you, but it's mostly bullshit.