How to Date.

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Are you 1 of those people who gets into relationships instead of dating? Do you have alot of dating experience and can share some insight? Let us know here. What are your ideas? What SHOULD dating be like vs what it is like?

What do you believe dating even MEANS?
 
i dont even date.. dont like da word fam.. to me that jawn mean u are " trying to figure out if u like someone" so i dont do it all... when i go out with a lady.... she already knows i LIKE her, I already know i like her, its been established that there is a mutual liking for one another.. aint shit else 2 figure out besides if our chemistry in person is as good as it is on the Telephone.. but if i were to go out on a so called "Date" i aint paying for shit... its all dutch and i aint picking her up, she meeting me in her whip or metro.... I take my girl out to eat - not no damn DATE lol:yes:
 
date for men
1) expect you to pick them up
2) expect you to pay blinsightedly for an possible expensive dinner.
3) expect you to entertain them for the date.
4A) expect you to spend your money on someone you really don't know.
4B) expect you to spend your money on someone you really don't know again.
5) expect you to be nice and have great manners for them.
6) expects you to cater to them.

real man in this time and age
1) meet them halfway
2) go dutch or buffet, eat the food bitch, i am eating it so whats the problem
3) so what do you bring to me that would keep me interested in you since the ratio of woman to men is 3:1?
4A) what is your credit score, do you have any vices, do YOU currently pay your own bills and can you continue to do so while i am fucking you? YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO PAY YOUR RENT IF I AM HERE OR NOT JUST LIKE MY PLACE.
4B) CAN YOU CONTINUE TO PAY YOUR OWN BILLS WHILE I AM FUCKING YOU?
5) CAN YOU BE A LADY IN THE STREETS BUT A FREAK IN THE BED?
6) MAKE YOUR OWN SANDWHICH WOMAN!!!
 
Pulls up chair, grabs my kettle corn popcorn...I need to take notes....And I am NOT the only one...
 
date for men
1) expect you to pick them up
2) expect you to pay blinsightedly for an possible expensive dinner.
3) expect you to entertain them for the date.
4A) expect you to spend your money on someone you really don't know.
4B) expect you to spend your money on someone you really don't know again.
5) expect you to be nice and have great manners for them.
6) expects you to cater to them.

real man in this time and age
1) meet them halfway
2) go dutch or buffet, eat the food bitch, i am eating it so whats the problem
3) so what do you bring to me that would keep me interested in you since the ratio of woman to men is 3:1?
4A) what is your credit score, do you have any vices, do YOU currently pay your own bills and can you continue to do so while i am fucking you? YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO PAY YOUR RENT IF I AM HERE OR NOT JUST LIKE MY PLACE.
4B) CAN YOU CONTINUE TO PAY YOUR OWN BILLS WHILE I AM FUCKING YOU?
5) CAN YOU BE A LADY IN THE STREETS BUT A FREAK IN THE BED?
6) MAKE YOUR OWN SANDWHICH WOMAN!!!

You are something else. :lol:

People make things way too complicated and serious but I think it's because people aren't honest about why they are dating. Are you dating because you just want something to do (casual) or are you looking for a husband/wife (courting). The latter is a different kind of experience. Problems arise when one person is thinking casual and the other person is thinking test run for potential fiancee.

I really enjoyed my casual dating experiences...and most all have led to some form of long term attachment (friendship or romantic). My current and I casually dated for a while before we became exclusive and decided to go in a different direction. I think dating really still is about getting to know someone.

Best advice for serious serious dating: Find someone with at least one core interest you share that doesn't involve fucking. Because once you start fucking any objective judgment a woman has usually gets thrown out the window if the dick is superior (or maybe that's just me?).

Also ladies don;t be so quick to put a man in the friend zone. We do this a lot! If there's no chemistry don't force it, BUT I think we are too quick to write some people off. Be willing at least to go on a few dates to give the sparks a chance. Not everything happens all at once. My godparents were married for almost 40 years and my godmother said she didn't like my godfather at all when they first met!
He wasn't her type and she thought he was a clown, but hey they fell in love anyway. I've known a few married/long term couples who said that.
 
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i forgot one more rule.
7)always ask a woman if she can deal with a man who can leave you in a minute if he feels the heat?
 
Thanks for the constructive advice Iz. I think along much those same lines. I believe that people should date. I see a woman out and about, i approach her and compliment her. If she gives me the eye contact that she's down with women, Yay. I give her my number. I ask her for hers. If it's in the daytime when i got the number? I'll send a text at night. I'll say something nice to make her smile. Remind her of who i was. Then i just hit her up with do you want to go to Cafe Brazil. (That's my spot!). We meet up and i make small talk. I keep it light. We discuss a little about relationships. And my belief about dating....Here's where it's implemented. Dating to me:

I like your company. Lets hang out for a little while. No i'm not wanting to be with you forever. If it happens. So be it. But odds are? Nah. But i do like who you are enough to kick it with you every now and again.

I inform her that yeah you won't be the only 1 i see and ask out on a date. There's a LOT of women out here. I want to experience them too.

I've never quite gotten the bridge between "talkin too", and "goin together". What's wrong with dating? Chilling out for a weekend here and there? Keeping some company?

For males? Ask a lady out. I really think you'd like it alot yourself. Keep it light and honest. No sex should be involved. Why not enjoy the presence of this person without sex clouding your judgement? Sex seems to add extra emotions to things. I advise against it.
 
So dating doesnt mean talking to some one daily?? Just occasionally when I feel like it? Not being silly, I really dont understand. I always ended up in a relationship. I get to know men one at a time, in order to give fair chances. If I didnt like a guy I threw up the duece sign. If did, he normally was feeling the same way and we end up together.
I need help on this one..Maybe the way I was raised, not to entertain a man on a romantic level if you cant see yourself with him....
 
I don't know really. I get my cues from how i do it. And how i am. If that works for you, then do it. But you should probably try dating just to be sure. And nah...But you know what? lol Me and a friend of mine in Jville call each other e-girlfriends. We go on edates. And we'll watch movies together. Talk all the time. So....why not?

I still say eventually you should get you a little of guys/girls and just date around. I think people limit themselves TOO much.
 
date for men
1) expect you to pick them up
2) expect you to pay blinsightedly for an possible expensive dinner.
3) expect you to entertain them for the date.
4A) expect you to spend your money on someone you really don't know.
4B) expect you to spend your money on someone you really don't know again.
5) expect you to be nice and have great manners for them.
6) expects you to cater to them.

real man in this time and age
1) meet them halfway
2) go dutch or buffet, eat the food bitch, i am eating it so whats the problem
3) so what do you bring to me that would keep me interested in you since the ratio of woman to men is 3:1?
4A) what is your credit score, do you have any vices, do YOU currently pay your own bills and can you continue to do so while i am fucking you? YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO PAY YOUR RENT IF I AM HERE OR NOT JUST LIKE MY PLACE.
4B) CAN YOU CONTINUE TO PAY YOUR OWN BILLS WHILE I AM FUCKING YOU?
5) CAN YOU BE A LADY IN THE STREETS BUT A FREAK IN THE BED?
6) MAKE YOUR OWN SANDWHICH WOMAN!!!

:roflmao2: I laughed for a good 15 min. at #2 above.

why? because it's something that I haven't said, yet it's something I would say.... and this nigga Rauldk stay saying some hard shit!
 
Thanks for the constructive advice Iz. I think along much those same lines. I believe that people should date. I see a woman out and about, i approach her and compliment her. If she gives me the eye contact that she's down with women, Yay. I give her my number. I ask her for hers. If it's in the daytime when i got the number? I'll send a text at night. I'll say something nice to make her smile. Remind her of who i was. Then i just hit her up with do you want to go to Cafe Brazil. (That's my spot!). We meet up and i make small talk. I keep it light. We discuss a little about relationships. And my belief about dating....Here's where it's implemented. Dating to me:

I like your company. Lets hang out for a little while. No i'm not wanting to be with you forever. If it happens. So be it. But odds are? Nah. But i do like who you are enough to kick it with you every now and again.

I inform her that yeah you won't be the only 1 i see and ask out on a date. There's a LOT of women out here. I want to experience them too.

I've never quite gotten the bridge between "talkin too", and "goin together". What's wrong with dating? Chilling out for a weekend here and there? Keeping some company?

For males? Ask a lady out. I really think you'd like it alot yourself. Keep it light and honest. No sex should be involved. Why not enjoy the presence of this person without sex clouding your judgement? Sex seems to add extra emotions to things. I advise against it.

Woman! You smooth as Murray's pomade! you need to slow ya roll.

I like you sometimes. I need to get back to being that smooth.

I abandoned my smooth for the jagged cliffhanger of my current raw. It ain't working so well. Well, actually it works for me shitting on women's self-esteem, but no so much for gettin' laid :smh:

Anyway, back on topic, I try to always be honest and open, but I get blindsided by bullshit because not everybody is shooting straight.

I've told plenty chicks that I didn't want a relationship, and was just looking for 'companionship', then get all kind of fuck shit. :confused:
:smh: want me to pick her up
:( wanna talk to me about her problems that she's not willing to do anything about (i.e. I come up with solutions because its what I do and she comes up with excuses)
:puke: while sharing experiences I'm grossed out by her ways and/or tendencies.
:eek: find out she has failed to tell me the whole truth (got 3 kids instead of 2, roommate is really {ex}b/f, that car ain't hers and she has none but she's trying out for a reality show :hmm:, etc.)

you know what....... search my name and thread history, I started a few threads about these bogus ass bitches.
 
Woman! You smooth as Murray's pomade! you need to slow ya roll.


I've told plenty chicks that I didn't want a relationship, and was just looking for 'companionship', then get all kind of fuck shit. :confused:

:lol: @ the bolded

But at the rest there are some chicks who would like that...I mean just the companion part.

I noticed that some chicks are on the 'diva' rag and they think they are the shit so they need you to pick them up, pay for the food, buy them a new bag, fix food at the house, etc. I ain't down for that bullshit. These people are playing themselves, they want a do boy and not a man that will put his foot down and say chick ill buy you a bag if you buy me these shoes of equal or more value. Or I can front you on dinner tonight but come saturday you better in in front of my door with some crab legs and sasusages and corn ready to throw down. It's too much damn take these days and not enough give, or even the expectation to give. What makes it worse though is that dudes don't want to explain to the chick that she is not entitled to EVERYTHING and that she has to work for it. So she left looking like the dumbass she is cusing you out and goes on to the next dude do the same damn thing and then cry to her friends "men are bitches! the last three left me at the golden buffet with the fake sushi! he cant even afford real fish!" smh

and watch out for those girls that say i dont normally date guys like you but stay looking at your keys, shoes, and hang on words like business, house, condo, work, idea, and partner.


you gotta take it slow. go eat n talk about yyour childhood. you can get there seperately but dude pay first chilvary.

next time she pay but you go to dave n busters or something. hell go to the zoo, volunteer together. its important to see how people act in public. bring them to a family function outside first if you feeling it like that. escalate to cooking at home for reals. its about getting to know someone for them not oh he not really my typr but he got a condo. or but he has no golds in his mouth or oo girl he got a house. be the kind of dater that know shit like he allergic to honey or she traumatized by styrofoam. If you can get there you might have something.
 
Dating is such a broad term ..

I've "dated" guys for a long time that never led to a relationship (well no one out right saying, you are my boyfriend/girlfriend)

I've went on 'dates' with guys, does that mean I'm 'dating' them?

I think it depends on your connection with the person .. I think once it escalates to you two deciding you're on the same course (either relationship or otherwise) that's when it changes to something else ... I think .. i'm unsure myself lol
 
Dating means the woman has 4 - 6 different men paying for her dinners, lunches, and movie tickets and she's not loyal to any of them. Whoever breaks the bank gets to have her.



First dates should ALWAYS be Dutch.

Second dates should be at a picnic setting. Sad thing is, this society is teaching young females to grow up as dinner whores......by their surrogate parents, the damn TV.
 
Second dates should be at a picnic setting. Sad thing is, this society is teaching young females to grow up as dinner whores......by their surrogate parents, the damn TV.

I can take a good lunch on the lawn as much as the next person but is it so wrong that I like to have good convo over a good dinner that I might not have otherwise ate in my house as a child?

If that's the case my children is going to need a special man cause they know good fruit, lobster, creme brule, crab, steak, eel, risotto -

My children know good food. Don't confuse someone wanting to excite their palate with someone that wants to drain your wallet.
 
If that's the case my children is going to need a special man cause they know good fruit, lobster, creme brule, crab, steak, eel, risotto -

My children know good food. Don't confuse someone wanting to excite their palate with someone that wants to drain your wallet.



I also know of good cuisine. I've had fugu, sushi, calamari ravioli, kobe steak, and such.


Asking for those things in the opening stages of dating is absolutely ridiculous unless she's willing to split the bill or pay for her own meal. Sushi can be made at home. So can salad, fruit or vegetable, pasta, lemonade can be packed up and can be eaten at the park. Point is, the man is expected to pay for every gotdamn date and outing because there is a rule that says "whoever asks for the date pays".......this is creating a society of dinner whores who are sitting on their asses waiting to be asked out. You have about a 0.03% chance of a female asking a man out and paying for the entire meal, out of the kindness of her heart. That's why I always say, the first date should be dutch, to see where her head is at and how she acts. I had a couple of dates like that before I got married, and observed the female's behavior during dinner. Her cell phone was ringing non stop, and each time she answered. While she was busy yammering away to whomever the fuck she was talking to, I paid for my appetizer and coke, and went the fuck home. She tried calling back but I ignored her calls from that point on for exercising such low class behavior. Another got left at the restaurant when she saw one of her homegirls there with her own date. She spoke with them for 10 - 15 - 20 minutes. Her date went to the restroom and left. I followed suit. I paid for my drinks, left her a note saying "find your own way home", and left. Sure, these young females want dates nowadays, but who the hell is teaching them about dating etiquette? Your kids may know food, but do they know how to appreciate a gesture of kindness or show common courtesy during a date?
 
Dating means the woman has 4 - 6 different men paying for her dinners, lunches, and movie tickets and she's not loyal to any of them. Whoever breaks the bank gets to have her.



First dates should ALWAYS be Dutch.

Second dates should be at a picnic setting. Sad thing is, this society is teaching young females to grow up as dinner whores......by their surrogate parents, the damn TV.

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Must be nice...all that without the uneasiness of obligation! Win-Win!
 
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Must be nice...all that without the uneasiness of obligation! Win-Win!



They do that so that if any of the victims find out about her treachery, she can say "we're dating, not in a relationship."



I had an classmate in Memphis that had that happen to him. He spent a shitload of money on this bitch. She pulled that "we're just dating" shit on him and he took her to small claims court and surprisingly he got all of his money back that he spent on her.



She got one of her other dat...simps to pay for it.
 
Sushi can be made at home. So can salad, fruit or vegetable, pasta, lemonade can be packed up and can be eaten at the park.

That's not the point.

this is creating a society of dinner whores who are sitting on their asses waiting to be asked out. You have about a 0.03% chance of a female asking a man out and paying for the entire meal, out of the kindness of her heart.

I have never in my life done this. If I wanted to go out, we will go out. If I have the funds to pay, I'll pay, and yes I have done this out of the kindness of my heart sometimes.

The other times might be because he paid last time, so I'll pay this time.

Your kids may know food, but do they know how to appreciate a gesture of kindness or show common courtesy during a date?

Believe me they will.

I don't have to worry bout that for another fifteen years (hopefully) but believe when that time comes they will know.


My point was that sometimes you want to go out to dinner on a date for the food and good times. That's the whole reason of going out. But to say that chicks sit and wait to be asked out is kinda cruel ain't it? The chicks you previously dated before you got married are probably the same chicks that don't say thank you for the tiniest of gestures huh? Of course they wouldn't know how to behave in public or appreciate a man paying for a good meal.
 
But to say that chicks sit and wait to be asked out is kinda cruel ain't it?


Absolutely not. Many, many, many females would survive only on burnt chicken wings, popcorn, and Sunny D if it weren't for simps breaking the bank on them.


True Story. I had a FORMER female friend ask me what I was doing one day. I told her I was bored out of my mind. She then said, "Well, how about I LETyou take ME to lunch?"


I hung the phone up so hard the cord came out the wall.




The chicks you previously dated before you got married are probably the same chicks that don't say thank you for the tiniest of gestures huh? Of course they wouldn't know how to behave in public or appreciate a man paying for a good meal.
Precisely. That's why I encourage men to do extensive background and behavior checks on these females before they even waste time and effort getting to know them. I've assisted at least 4 of my coworkers from getting caught up with shit women. One of the easiest ways is by observing the company she keeps. If she hangs around a bunch of begging ass bust downs,chances are, she is too. You are who you hang with is the correct term is it not?


But those other females I had the displeasure of dining with briefly? Yes, they ARE the type that are rude and without home training. That was about 7 - 8 years ago. Dating has gotten a lot worse since then.

Let me ask you something Melonpecan. Let's say you're out on a date, and the guy's cell phone continues to ring and each time he's interrupted the conversation between the two of you to answer it. What do you do?


#2. And this is for anyone who wants to answer. You meet someone and they take you out. It's a good place to eat, but it's also extremely cheap as far as the prices....what do you do?
 
I also know of good cuisine. I've had fugu, sushi, calamari ravioli, kobe steak, and such.


Asking for those things in the opening stages of dating is absolutely ridiculous unless she's willing to split the bill or pay for her own meal. Sushi can be made at home. So can salad, fruit or vegetable, pasta, lemonade can be packed up and can be eaten at the park. Point is, the man is expected to pay for every gotdamn date and outing because there is a rule that says "whoever asks for the date pays".......this is creating a society of dinner whores who are sitting on their asses waiting to be asked out. You have about a 0.03% chance of a female asking a man out and paying for the entire meal, out of the kindness of her heart. That's why I always say, the first date should be dutch, to see where her head is at and how she acts. I had a couple of dates like that before I got married, and observed the female's behavior during dinner. Her cell phone was ringing non stop, and each time she answered. While she was busy yammering away to whomever the fuck she was talking to, I paid for my appetizer and coke, and went the fuck home. She tried calling back but I ignored her calls from that point on for exercising such low class behavior. Another got left at the restaurant when she saw one of her homegirls there with her own date. She spoke with them for 10 - 15 - 20 minutes. Her date went to the restroom and left. I followed suit. I paid for my drinks, left her a note saying "find your own way home", and left. Sure, these young females want dates nowadays, but who the hell is teaching them about dating etiquette? Your kids may know food, but do they know how to appreciate a gesture of kindness or show common courtesy during a date?

asking for sushi in the early stages of dating .. Sushi is not expensive!! I mean, yes it may be a reach to ask to go to Morimoto for sushi on a first date .. but regular ole sushi?? come on son ... Don't be cheap ... a first date is to "impress" for some and for others to "feel out".. If a guy wants to impress a lady ... let him .. I personally don't think someone should invite me to their house on a first date ..

i dont care how much a guy spends on a date, as long as I have a good time ... we can go play pool, bowling, or to the fireworks ... Its YOU that i'm ultimately attracted to, not what you can do for me .. You're generalizing all females based on the bad etiquette of chicks you've known or went out with ..

I've had guys pay for meals.. and I pay for things as well.. it may just be, I wanna see this movie so I buy the tickets.. or I want to go to a concert so I buy the tickets vs telling him I want to go and hoping he buys the tickets
 
If a guy wants to impress a lady ... let him . These days, that's opening yourself up for disaster. In this economy, female especially, have become predators for the come up. If they know he's gonna spend a sure nuff big buck, she's gonna let him, no matter if she's attracted to him or not (if she isn't, that's a recipe for disaster and leading him on could very well put her life in danger). Why not just get appetizers and talk about current events or what not?


and I pay for things as well

Like?
 
Let me ask you something Melonpecan. Let's say you're out on a date, and the guy's cell phone continues to ring and each time he's interrupted the conversation between the two of you to answer it. What do you do?


#2. And this is for anyone who wants to answer. You meet someone and they take you out. It's a good place to eat, but it's also extremely cheap as far as the prices....what do you do?

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If its an emergency / momma / some pressing family matter - I might not mind. The homeboys or some random scallywag - I'm dipping. I hate it when this family member come to my house and step out for an hour just to take a phone call about what someone saw billy do on fb. Now chick only been at my house for fifteen minutes before the call. after the call she got to leave. WTF.

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Whether he or I am paying, why do I care how much the food cost? The question is Is the food good? I don't want to associate this good person with bad food. we'll just have to go out again and correct the mistake...ok bad food / good person association might be a good thing...

asking for sushi in the early stages of dating .. Sushi is not expensive!! I mean, yes it may be a reach to ask to go to Morimoto for sushi on a first date .. but regular ole sushi?? come on son ... Don't be cheap ... a first date is to "impress" for some and for others to "feel out".. If a guy wants to impress a lady ... let him .. I personally don't think someone should invite me to their house on a first date ..

i dont care how much a guy spends on a date, as long as I have a good time ... we can go play pool, bowling, or to the fireworks ... Its YOU that i'm ultimately attracted to, not what you can do for me .. You're generalizing all females based on the bad etiquette of chicks you've known or went out with ..

I've had guys pay for meals.. and I pay for things as well.. it may just be, I wanna see this movie so I buy the tickets.. or I want to go to a concert so I buy the tickets vs telling him I want to go and hoping he buys the tickets

This right here :yes:
 
I hate it when this family member come to my house and step out for an hour just to take a phone call about what someone saw billy do on fb. Now chick only been at my house for fifteen minutes before the call. after the call she got to leave. WTF.

Why not just close the door, lock it, and be done with it? Refuse to answer the door. Obviously the phone call meant more to her than you.


Some people only respond when you act an ass.....I take pleasure in doing so.:D
 

there were examples mentioned in the post .. movies, concerts ... whatever my heart desires ... the point is .. I'm not afraid to pay occasionally for a guy who's shown he's interested in me


and why is it a disaster to want to impress women? NOT everyone is on the come up ... well let me not say that.. i can only speak for self .. I am not looking for a come up .. like I said it my previous post .. its not about the money spent on the dates ..its whether I had a good time ..I can have a good time at a free concert with the right company
 
I am not looking for a come up


You're hungry, it's the middle of the week and your funds are iffy. A guy who you harbor 0% attraction for asks you out........



Do you go?


I can have a good time at a free concert with the right company


I wonder why so many females say this online, yet men still say they can't find women like this?
 
Why not just close the door, lock it, and be done with it? Refuse to answer the door. Obviously the phone call meant more to her than you.


Some people only respond when you act an ass.....I take pleasure in doing so.:D

It's a very complicated thing with someone that is suppose to be CLOSE family. I don't want to shut her out, but yeah I do get that feeling sometimes. I told her about that and she doesn't do it that often anymore...then again I haven't seen her much lately...

Right now I'd rather focus her on getting her life together...that would make me happier than being an ass to her. I don't like to be in drama...I watch them.
 
You're hungry, it's the middle of the week and your funds are iffy. A guy who you harbor 0% attraction for asks you out........



Do you go?

If I can find myself even finding 1% of a chance of liking him, then yes. If I know I can never find myself attracted to this busted dude, no.



I wonder why so many females say this online, yet men still say they can't find women like this?

Cause ya'll don't look in the right places. Ya'll think you do, but you don't...

...btw, where did you meet Mrs. BCAA2009?
 
Cause ya'll don't look in the right places. Ya'll think you do, but you don't...


What's the "right places".........please enlighten us.

Don't say church, it's a haven for reformed whores and faggots.

Don't say the bookstore. The black women I see going into there are only looking for Zane and Eric Jerome Dickey novels.

So.........where?


...btw, where did you meet Mrs. BCAA2009?

In undergrad. Our first date was pizza, 7up, and games and movies from Hollywood video.
 
You're hungry, it's the middle of the week and your funds are iffy. A guy who you harbor 0% attraction for asks you out........



Do you go?

I wonder why so many females say this online, yet men still say they can't find women like this?

I dont go ..

True Story .. This guy has been hitting me up often about going out .. I am not interested in him in the least physically even though his personality seems to be ok .. I keep saying I'm busy or yadda yadda.. he keeps asking .. its been about 2 months ... so now, I don't even respond to him because I want to avoid the awkwardness because I know what his intentions are ...


Cause ya'll don't look in the right places. Ya'll think you do, but you don't...

BINNGGGGOOOOO .. bing - mutha effin' ooooo


ooorrr everyone is trying to get the chick who looks like the video vixen ... and then wonder why she left him in search of a balla
 
What's the "right places".........please enlighten us.

Don't say church, it's a haven for reformed whores and faggots.

Don't say the bookstore. The black women I see going into there are only looking for Zane and Eric Jerome Dickey novels.

So.........where?


In undergrad. Our first date was pizza, 7up, and games and movies from Hollywood video.


Wooaaahh .. while I am not a Zane fan .. I think you cannot characterize her books and EJD's books in the same category .. he actually weaves a story and interesting characters .. I happen to like EJD .. and I also read some of everything .. my to read list will have books from EJD to Richard Wright to Bret Easton Ellis (who I'm in fact currently reading) and the book prior to this was a fiction book based on the Vel d'Hiv and prior to that it was the Shack by W.M Young ..

You're being awfully judgmental of people in your initial assumptions.. I would be offended if a guy didn't think I was worthy of attention for one book I'm buying ... but i'd also take it as he's not worth my time if he's that quick to judge
 
You're being awfully judgmental of people in your initial assumptions.. I would be offended if a guy didn't think I was worthy of attention for one book I'm buying ... but i'd also take it as he's not worth my time if he's that quick to judge


Name ONE EJD novel that didn't throw the man under the bus?

I can name you several that did.


Would you date a man who approached you after seeing him come out of a porn shop with an armful of porno DVDs?


What good are Zane novels really?
 
Name ONE EJD novel that didn't throw the man under the bus?

I can name you several that did.


Would you date a man who approached you after seeing him come out of a porn shop with an armful of porno DVDs?


What good are Zane novels really?

lol I'd judge him for buying porn instead of downloading it! :lol:

Define under the bus? the last few books, the Gideon series , Gideon has his issues but he's a good guy (a hitman) but he tries to do right by his family (mom, little brothers) EJD also has some fucked up female characters who do shiesty things.. so its really unfair ..

Zane books suck .. there is no realll literature and its all about sucking and fucking .. I agree with you there .. but its not fair to judge.. I might make a joke to them like "wow, great choice of reading there" but I won't let it disqualify someone ...
 
Define under the bus? the last few books, the Gideon series , Gideon has his issues but he's a good guy (a hitman) but he tries to do right by his family (mom, little brothers) EJD also has some fucked up female characters who do shiesty things.. so its really unfair ..


In cheaters, Stephon was made to look bad after he told everyone at his family dinner that he and Chante were only dating, which they were at that point.


Darnell was made to look bad after conversing with Tammy. He was then accused by his wife Dawn of raping her in the garage. I mean, come on, he saw his wife coming in and he liked what she had on so he hit it in the garage....then she complained later.

In Maintenance Man, the club assistant, I can't remember her name, kept dogging out Chris, who shows her genuine interest, but she kept friend zoning him.

The club owner caught his wife cheating, he filmed it and showed everyone in church, yet he was made out to be the bad guy.


edit: That was Michael Baisden
 
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