Da Bulls will get to the Eastern conference finals and maybe...

Stop everyone else ?? They have 3 superstars in a team, a center who's job is not to score but get rebounds/clog the lanes and a PG that is there just to bring up the ball and spot up for a shot if the stars don't score. So who you gonna stop ? Apart from Noah and Gibson Who else plays defense in the bulls?? and you just traded Kirk hinrich. You realise Wade and Lebron can score all the points if your team has no one to stop them?? :lol: And if Miami adds another 7feet tall center, it's lights out for your Front court. They are undersized..

Ok... Who stops Rose???... Wade gonna run around screens and shit with Korver and Reddick all night??? Bosh is gonna become a defensive beast all of sudden and shut down Booz, Bron gonna stay on the wings and stay on Deng the whole night... Haslem???... Noah... Im takin Noah. A bunch of stars dont equal titles. If Wade and Bron are scoring all the point theyre gonna get tired and stop driving and we all know neither one can shoot the lights out consistantly. MIA is gonna be very good, but I aint sold they gonna be great. Aint nobody scared of that team they got down there.
 
That team could not beat Bron by his self

HOW THE HELL they gon beat the Heat


GTFOH

That team that could not beat Bron has gotten better. But don't front the Cavs got exposed by the Bulls in that series. Noah out worked the bigs and D. Rose just destroyed Mo Williams. The Cavs were fortunate to have won that series. You can tell how they celebrated when they won. Still no one have seen this collection of Heat players play together yet so until they do you are only speculating that they will be a good team. Still weak at center with Big Z and needs a savy veteran PG.

How it stands now, the Heat only have an advantage at SG and SF. The Bulls have the advantage at PG and C. The PF matchup is a tossup. Bosh is more talented, but his skinny ass can be pushed off the blocks by a Boozer, he can however shoot over the top of him. Boozer on the under hand will pin Bosh under the basket and abuse him. So now it comes down to the benches and I think Chicago's will be better.
 
Ok... Who stops Rose???... Wade gonna run around screens and shit with Korver and Reddick all night??? Bosh is gonna become a defensive beast all of sudden and shut down Booz, Bron gonna stay on the wings and stay on Deng the whole night... Haslem???... Noah... Im takin Noah. A bunch of stars dont equal titles. If Wade and Bron are scoring all the point theyre gonna get tired and stop driving and we all know neither one can shoot the lights out consistantly. MIA is gonna be very good, but I aint sold they gonna be great. Aint nobody scared of that team they got down there.


Bring it bitches!!! :dance:
 
Ok... Who stops Rose???... Wade gonna run around screens and shit with Korver and Reddick all night??? Bosh is gonna become a defensive beast all of sudden and shut down Booz, Bron gonna stay on the wings and stay on Deng the whole night... Haslem???... Noah... Im takin Noah. A bunch of stars dont equal titles. If Wade and Bron are scoring all the point theyre gonna get tired and stop driving and we all know neither one can shoot the lights out consistantly. MIA is gonna be very good, but I aint sold they gonna be great. Aint nobody scared of that team they got down there.

You seem to underestimate Wade on defense. We saw how deng and lebron Match up panned out this last playoffs, The Boozer and Bosh matchup, i'll take Bosh since he can step outside and hit the long shot, that would open up the lanes for easy dunks against redick/korver/deng.. Even Big Z will have his share of easy buckets against your undersized front court.. Noah and Haslem are actually the same kind of players, they hustle hard. But anyway the bulls need another year or 2 before they make noise, having a rookie head coach makes me not believe them.
 
I feel ya Bro cant wait for the season to start..Yea Boston is a year older and so is Dwight Howard a year older with the same weak ass offensive skills defense he's a beast i'll give him that but on the offense he's a foul machine. Im a big Tarheels fan but Vince is on his last leg almost time to retire, Barnes ..........., Nelson is my dude but he showed me something last year trying to guard Rondo, Rashard Lewis ya'lls 120mil $$ man :lol::lol::lol:, thats pretty much all ya'll got unless Pietrus is gonna stop Bron :lol::lol::lol: like i said at best ya'll 3rd in the East.
 
Orlando aint going nowhere partner:yes::yes:

Exactly, Orlando is going nowhere... they will stay the same. The Magic may get worse actually. They will continue to be around a 3rd or 4th seed but as you can clearly see Miami is stacking talent and will be better the Orlando who lost there toughest player in Matt Barnes. Who is going to guard D.Wade on that team Vince?

Orlando will not see another finals run until they get a bonafide first offensive option.
 
You seem to underestimate Wade on defense. We saw how deng and lebron Match up panned out this last playoffs, The Boozer and Bosh matchup, i'll take Bosh since he can step outside and hit the long shot, that would open up the lanes for easy dunks against redick/korver/deng.. Even Big Z will have his share of easy buckets against your undersized front court.. Noah and Haslem are actually the same kind of players, they hustle hard. But anyway the bulls need another year or 2 before they make noise, having a rookie head coach makes me not believe them.

It aint about Wades defensive ability, chasing players off screens kills your legs after a while if your not used to doing it and Wade already cant shoot, what happens when his legs get tired???... Uhhhh Deng was playin good ball in the playoffs. He isnt on Brons level so yeah Bron had a better series, but dont discount 19 and 5 as a second option on the squad. Haslem is just hustle... He isnt rangey, long or all that athletic. Noah may be undersized by 1990 standards of what a center is supposed to look like, but other than maybe 6-7 guys who isnt. Noah is an athletic, long, rangy player so in that respect hes better tha Haslem. I will agree with you on Tibs. I dont know enough about him, or how he works with his players to say the Bulls are Finals bound, but they will be vastly improved. I dont see a good reason they should make a deep playoff run.
 
Wassup with that bet? Make shit interesting to go along with our shit talking. :yes:

:lol::lol: I think i'll pass on it. Don't know what too expect from this team, but i don't see them winning more than 46. Count me in if you want bet bucks having a better record than the bulls.
 
Ok... Who stops Rose???... Wade gonna run around screens and shit with Korver and Reddick all night??? Bosh is gonna become a defensive beast all of sudden and shut down Booz, Bron gonna stay on the wings and stay on Deng the whole night... Haslem???... Noah... Im takin Noah. A bunch of stars dont equal titles. If Wade and Bron are scoring all the point theyre gonna get tired and stop driving and we all know neither one can shoot the lights out consistantly. MIA is gonna be very good, but I aint sold they gonna be great. Aint nobody scared of that team they got down there.


Bring it bitches!!! :dance:
 
Exactly, Orlando is going nowhere... they will stay the same. The Magic may get worse actually. They will continue to be around a 3rd or 4th seed but as you can clearly see Miami is stacking talent and will be better the Orlando who lost there toughest player in Matt Barnes. Who is going to guard D.Wade on that team Vince?

Orlando will not see another finals run until they get a bonafide first offensive option.

That Just it The Beauty of Orlando and Boston is they are COMPLETE TEAM you never know who is going to lead the team in Scoring.........Boston and Orlando are very good teams bro!!! Only LA can beat them that is Clear until proving otherwise!!!
 
:lol::lol: I think i'll pass on it. Don't know what too expect from this team, but i don't see them winning more than 46. Count me in if you want bet bucks having a better record than the bulls.

Fair enough. :yes: How much you wanna bet on the Bucks having a better record?
 
Until they get a C and PG they just the Miami HYPE still dont see them beating Orlando and Boston until they get help at those positions......Look for Miami to reach the east finals lose and then in Year 2 win the title with more help!!:yes::yes:
They don't need a center. The Bulls won 6 titles with garbage centers. I like the Magic but they have got their ass handed to them the last two years. Plus Orlando don't even match up well with the Heat. They would run Orlando off the court
 
Ok... Who stops Rose???... Wade gonna run around screens and shit with Korver and Reddick all night??? Bosh is gonna become a defensive beast all of sudden and shut down Booz, Bron gonna stay on the wings and stay on Deng the whole night... Haslem???... Noah... Im takin Noah. A bunch of stars dont equal titles. If Wade and Bron are scoring all the point theyre gonna get tired and stop driving and we all know neither one can shoot the lights out consistantly. MIA is gonna be very good, but I aint sold they gonna be great. Aint nobody scared of that team they got down there.
I know you love your team and all but lets be real Lebron, Wade, and Bosh are a lot better then Rose, Noah, and JJ Reddick. How you figure they can beat the heat?
 
I know you love your team and all but lets be real Lebron, Wade, and Bosh are a lot better then Rose, Noah, and JJ Reddick. How you figure they can beat the heat?

Cause its basketball and the best collection of stars dont always win... Wade and Bron are better than Rose, not Bosh. And hell even Bosh aint all that. Him and Booz are damn near equal in production.
 
Cause its basketball and the best collection of stars dont always win... Wade and Bron are better than Rose, not Bosh. And hell even Bosh aint all that. Him and Booz are damn near equal in production.
With Wade and Bron... Bosh does not have to be great. Do you know how much pressure Bron and Wade will put on a defense? With Bosh able to rain down the 15 foot jumper all day they will be a beast to stop.
 
With Wade and Bron... Bosh does not have to be great. Do you know how much pressure Bron and Wade will put on a defense? With Bosh able to rain down the 15 foot jumper all day they will be a beast to stop.

Doesnt mean they cant be beatin. Shit aint a video game. Based on how you think everybody need to just take 5 years off cause the Heat are goin 82-0 and 16-0 in the playoffs and are gonna go down as the best team in th ehistory of all mankind.:rolleyes:
 
... Who on Miami would be the equivalent to Jordan, Kerr/Paxon, Grant/Rodman... to compensate for that lack of a center??? Ill give you James as Pippen.
wade is jordan
agruably the best scorer in the league
his 3 shot getting better every year.
nearly unguardable

mike miller=kerr
dude shot almost 50% from 3 last year.
better all around player than kerr

haslem=rodman
obviously not as good,but that type of hustle guy.
he can knock down the jumper from the top of the key
nails his free throws in crunch time.
was 2nd on the heat behind wade in game winners last year
 
wade is jordan
agruably the best scorer in the league
his 3 shot getting better every year.
nearly unguardable

mike miller=kerr
dude shot almost 50% from 3 last year.
better all around player than kerr

haslem=rodman
obviously not as good,but that type of hustle guy.
he can knock down the jumper from the top of the key
nails his free throws in crunch time.
was 2nd on the heat behind wade in game winners last year

Alright ill give you Mike Miller. Haslem aint gettin 13-18 boards a game and his onball D isnt even in the same realm. Wade is the best scorer in the league??? The East??? Not the league. Kobe, Melo, Durant... If he had control of a team the same way Id say Jamal Crawford is a top 5 "scorer" Wade is a great player... but hes not in the argument of top scorers in the league. Hes only 6'4'', has an iffy jumpshot and depends on his athleticism too much, not really a problem now, but once he loses a step... A.I. 2.0 Hes Bron without the size... Jordan he aint.
 
Alright ill give you Mike Miller. Haslem aint gettin 13-18 boards a game and his onball D isnt even in the same realm. Wade is the best scorer in the league??? The East??? Not the league. Kobe, Melo, Durant... If he had control of a team the same way Id say Jamal Crawford is a top 5 "scorer" Wade is a great player... but hes not in the argument of top scorers in the league. Hes only 6'4'', has an iffy jumpshot and depends on his athleticism too much, not really a problem now, but once he loses a step... A.I. 2.0 Hes Bron without the size... Jordan he aint.

do you even watch wade play? wade's jump shot is not iffy. his 3 point shot may be, but not anything inside the 3 point line. wade averages slightly over 48% from the field. if he didn't attempt any 3's, he would be shooting over 50% from the field easy. he always in the hunt for the scoring title. he just won the scoring title in the 2009 season.

you can say what you want about wade but numbers don't lie.
 
Alright ill give you Mike Miller. Haslem aint gettin 13-18 boards a game and his onball D isnt even in the same realm. Wade is the best scorer in the league??? The East??? Not the league. Kobe, Melo, Durant... If he had control of a team the same way Id say Jamal Crawford is a top 5 "scorer" Wade is a great player... but hes not in the argument of top scorers in the league. Hes only 6'4'', has an iffy jumpshot and depends on his athleticism too much, not really a problem now, but once he loses a step... A.I. 2.0 Hes Bron without the size... Jordan he aint.

the boards haslem doesnt get bosh will.
umm...you know wade had the highest scoring average this year in the playoffs.
3rd highest scoring average ever in the finals
and won the scoring title like 2 years ago.
i guess you dont watch the heat much.
wade is a beast.
 
Life long Bulls fan but here is the honest truth of why top tier 1 free-agents shun Chicago. Go back to 1998 after the Bulls win their second 3-peat. The owner and management was on some "players don't win championships, organizations do" logic. So they decided to blow up the squad and send MJ and Phil Jackson away. Throughout the entire run the two Jerry's Krause(GM at that time) and Reinsdorf(owner) was reaping the benefits of an underpaid MJ and Pippen. The reason why top free agents don't come here is because of Reinsdorf(also owns White Sox) and he was the common denominator. There is no way that MJ should not be in the Bulls organization in a very important capacity. The fact that he isn't proves that Reinsdorf is a tight jew. So when free agents think of Chicago guess who they ask about Chicago, yeah you guessed it MJ and Pip. Reinsdorf should have rode with Jordan and not Krause. MJ made the Bulls a great franchise by his name Brand alone. So when free agents saw how Jordan got dissed by Reinsdorf they be like "if Jordan can be underappreciated then where does that leave me". So in closing as long as Reinsdorf is the owner the Bulls will continue to miss out on top tier free agents.

I disagree with the premise of this statement. The Bulls did not underappreciate MJ or Scottie. First, Scottie Pippen wanted financial security and signed a 9 year deal. Scottie was not a free agent until the end of the dynasty.

Scottie was mad that he didnt get to be paid during the windfall of the mid 90's. He got his payday after the lockout. And even after the lockout the Bulls did a sign and trade for almost nothing so Scottie could get the max salary. Scottie also works for the Bulls right now.

Secondly the Bulls, no one has ever heard MJ publicly bad mouth Jerry Reinsdorf, Krause but not Reinsdorf. If anything Reinsdorf went out of his way to protect Jordan. He kept the news of Jordan's pre-marital baby out of the media, he keep the rumors of Jordan's personality out of the media and even sacrificed Horace Grant (by publicaly criticizing him). He paid Jordan his full salary during his first retirement. And paid Jordan 64 million over two years. Even 13 years later, no athlete in any sport has made that much money over two years.

Also, Michael Jordan ended the dynasty. He said he would "never play for a coach other than Phil Jackson" then played for Doug Collins three years later. Also, Jordan was going to play after the lock-out but he nearly cut his index finger down to the bone with a cigar cutter and would have missed the entire lock-out season.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/nba/longterm/jordan/articles/jordan14.htm

Also, he would have cameback to the Bulls but by the time his finger was healed he had been offered part ownership and the VP role at Washington and has been owner or VP with a Charlotte since. Jordan will not accept a Dominique Wilkins type role.

Based off of his record with Washington (drafting Kwame, trading Rip for Stackhouse, not trading the 11 [Jared Jefferies] and 17 [Juan Dixon] to the Clippers #8 which would have been Amare Stoudamire) would you have hired Jordan as a VP. Even now, he trades Tyson Chandler for nothing and let Felton go for nothing!

The Bulls organization is not a bad organization for former players. Paxson is VP, BJ was assistant GM, Stacy King is the radio man and a former scout, the hired a broke Randy Brown and bought him new rings to replace that he ones he lost to bankruptcy, Bill Wennington is the radio man, Pete Myers is assistant coach, Scottie works for Bulls.com and was given the job during financial trouble, Will Perdue was a radio man, they paid Jay Williams after his motorcycle accident and he gave Cartwright a assistant and head coaching job. And he still hired Krause as a scout with the White Sox.

This guy took care of the Bulls players.

Don't buy into this shit that the BUlls don't support their players.
 
Fair enough. :yes: How much you wanna bet on the Bucks having a better record?

Yeah I want some of that action myself, first dude said 40=46 games and then to say Mil will have a better record ? Aw damn this money seem to easy !!!

wade is jordan
agruably the best scorer in the league
his 3 shot getting better every year.
nearly unguardable

mike miller=kerr
dude shot almost 50% from 3 last year.
better all around player than kerr

You are joking right ?

haslem=rodman
obviously not as good,but that type of hustle guy.
he can knock down the jumper from the top of the key
nails his free throws in crunch time.
was 2nd on the heat behind wade in game winners last year

Your not joking, you are high !!!
What planet are you watching basketball on ?
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Yeah I want some of that action myself, first dude said 40=46 games and then to say Mil will have a better record ? Aw damn this money seem to easy !!!


What planet are you watching basketball on ?
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

what am i joking about
miller is a better all around player than kerr.
and i said haslem isnt as good as rodman.
but haslem knocks down the jumper from the top of the key
knocks down the clutch free throws.
i also left out he takes a shit load of charges and does the intagibles like diving for balls.
:dunno:
planet florida
 
the boards haslem doesnt get bosh will.
umm...you know wade had the highest scoring average this year in the playoffs.
3rd highest scoring average ever in the finals
and won the scoring title like 2 years ago.
i guess you dont watch the heat much.
wade is a beast.

I think people get sensitive when you disagree with something. I never said Wade wasnt great. I said there are better scorers than him and they ALL had to share the ball with other good players... Wade, like Bron had no help so they got to take more shots=more points. As good as a J as you and the dude above you wanna say Wade has is aint as good as Kobes, Melos, or Durants. Theyre also taller, can shot over people and skills that will benefit them when they lose athleticism... Wade???... Not really. So to me there are atleast 3 better scorers than Wade. I like Wade, Im not bashin him, but based on what I see, hes a top 5 player... Not the best player.
 
Alright ill give you Mike Miller. Haslem aint gettin 13-18 boards a game and his onball D isnt even in the same realm. Wade is the best scorer in the league??? The East??? Not the league. Kobe, Melo, Durant... If he had control of a team the same way Id say Jamal Crawford is a top 5 "scorer" Wade is a great player... but hes not in the argument of top scorers in the league. Hes only 6'4'', has an iffy jumpshot and depends on his athleticism too much, not really a problem now, but once he loses a step... A.I. 2.0 Hes Bron without the size... Jordan he aint.
Wade as a iffy shot? Are you kidding me. Wade averages almost 30 pts per game. Dude jump shot is money
 
You seem to underestimate Wade on defense. We saw how deng and lebron Match up panned out this last playoffs, The Boozer and Bosh matchup, i'll take Bosh since he can step outside and hit the long shot, that would open up the lanes for easy dunks against redick/korver/deng.. Even Big Z will have his share of easy buckets against your undersized front court.. Noah and Haslem are actually the same kind of players, they hustle hard. But anyway the bulls need another year or 2 before they make noise, having a rookie head coach makes me not believe them.

Chasing somebody around all night will tire you so Wade will be wasting energy. Bosh is going to get his buy you can expect him to possibly get into foul trouble.Noah and Haslem may fight similar styles but Haslem has never averaged a double double, Noah has.And Big Z has to make it through the year on those bad feet.
 
I think people get sensitive when you disagree with something. I never said Wade wasnt great. I said there are better scorers than him and they ALL had to share the ball with other good players... Wade, like Bron had no help so they got to take more shots=more points. As good as a J as you and the dude above you wanna say Wade has is aint as good as Kobes, Melos, or Durants. Theyre also taller, can shot over people and skills that will benefit them when they lose athleticism... Wade???... Not really. So to me there are atleast 3 better scorers than Wade. I like Wade, Im not bashin him, but based on what I see, hes a top 5 player... Not the best player.

I know you are a fellow Bulls fan but Wade forgot more about basketball than Durant or Melo will pick up in the next 5 years. I can't co sign this statement Wade is in the top 3 with LBJ & Kobe.
 
Wade as a iffy shot? Are you kidding me. Wade averages almost 30 pts per game. Dude jump shot is money

Money??? Really???:hmm: 26.8 isnt almost 30. 29.8 is almost 30. Wade will cath fire at time, but his shit aint money. Reggie was money, Bird was money, Glen Rice was money, Wade is ok...
 
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