BGOL/SOL Cheaters...Let me ask some ?'s

[onyxfemme]

lolololol LMBAO!

Onyx be having niggas open up like they on Oprah...

I was young and immature!
So lets be clear-cheating is for the immature and selfish crowd!

We wouldn't want your thread to self destruct, its a good one. But based upon your comments women cheat for the same reasons men cheat, SEXUAL FULFILLMENT!

A woman needs sexual fulfillment as much as any man. I've heard women say it and you just confirmed their statements. If a woman has experienced oral sex and its her main technique to reach orgasm and her man won't do it, she's going to seek the satisfaction she needs somewhere else. She will cheat.

So its not just us men who seek sexual fulfillment its women too. I do appreciate your honesty on this matter.

 

[Mo-Better]

lolololol LMBAO!




I was young and immature!
So lets be clear-cheating is for the immature and selfish crowd!

It may not have seemed like it but I was speaking in general. I didn't say you I said "women cheat for the same reason as men". But I don't think age has anything to do with cheating.

But let me ask you this, would you (or any woman) stay with a man that didn't satisfy you sexually? Men don't!

 

[M.H.C.]

Cheating is like stealing, sometimes even the most honest person will cheat if the opportunity keeps presenting itself however if that person can walk through life not feeling the "want/need" to steal then the same can be applied to a relationship when it comes to cheating.

Yeah I can go to a Walmart and snatch that gameor some headphones but they will eventually become useless and the only thing I can say is, "Hey at least I didn't pay for it." and yeah it would be nice to get some head or a quick fuck but only to say, "Hey at least I got a nut." I could jack off if all i'm searching for is another body/hand/mouth to get a nut.

 

[onyxfemme]

Nope.......I would be OUT!

It may not have seemed like it but I was speaking in general. I didn't say you I said "women cheat for the same reason as men". But I don't think age has anything to do with cheating.

But let me ask you this, would you (or any woman) stay with a man that didn't satisfy you sexually? Men don't!

 

[Adam Knows]

i'm so glad i don't cheat.

 

[Rossini]

Cheating is like stealing, sometimes even the most honest person will cheat if the opportunity keeps presenting itself however if that person can walk through life not feeling the "want/need" to steal then the same can be applied to a relationship when it comes to cheating.

Yeah I can go to a Walmart and snatch that gameor some headphones but they will eventually become useless and the only thing I can say is, "Hey at least I didn't pay for it." and yeah it would be nice to get some head or a quick fuck but only to say, "Hey at least I got a nut." I could jack off if all i'm searching for is another body/hand/mouth to get a nut.

bad comparison, if people could steal and not worry about jail, more people would steal, you dont have to think about jail when cheating.

 

[Mo-Better]

Nope.......I would be OUT!

Ahh! Now we can get to why men cheat. If your married and wanted out what would be the outcome? The man would probably let you go.

If a man wants out of a marriage what happens? You drag his ass to court, you want child support, you want the house, the car, the dog you get my point. It was you who spoke of "grimy revengeful acts." Most women want revenge even though it may have been their unwillingness to perform sexual acts to keep their man happy at home. If a man is unhappy at home he will seek happiness.

So to quote Johnny Taylor, It's Cheaper to Keep Her, and just do your thing on the side.

 

[Spectrum]

 

[Koolinme]

Deep seated

my friend it's actually deep seeded.

 

[M.H.C.]

bad comparison, if people could steal and not worry about jail, more people would steal, you dont have to think about jail when cheating.

Okay what about STD's then?

 

[Rossini]

Okay what about STD's then?

 

[onyxfemme]

GET OUT an STAY OUT!

i'm so glad i don't cheat.

Naaaah I get where he was coming from...

bad comparison, if people could steal and not worry about jail, more people would steal, you dont have to think about jail when cheating.

MO are you drinking this early?
Why not LEAVE instead of cheat? I am so lost after reading your post....What about being married?
We need a commercial break!

Ahh! Now we can get to why men cheat. If your married and wanted out what would be the outcome? The man would probably let you go.

If a man wants out of a marriage what happens? You drag his ass to court, you want child support, you want the house, the car, the dog you get my point. It was you who spoke of "grimy revengeful acts." Most women want revenge even though it may have been their unwillingness to perform sexual acts to keep their man happy at home. If a man is unhappy at home he will seek happiness.

So to quote Johnny Taylor, It's Cheaper to Keep Her, and just do your thing on the side.

 

[Rossini]

G

MO are you drinking this early?
Why not LEAVE instead of cheat? I am so lost after reading your post....What about being married?
We need a commercial break!

Niggas kill me with "she must no be doin something right at home" A bitch can be doin everything right and we will still cheat, thats just the way god made us but the main thing is having access to hoes, if a man is around beautiful women every day, he will cheat... thats guaranteed.

 

[Mo-Better]

GET OUT an STAY OUT!



Naaaah I get where he was coming from...




MO are you drinking this early?
Why not LEAVE instead of cheat? I am so lost after reading your post....What about being married?
We need a commercial break!

No all I'm saying is men cheat because its cheaper to keep that woman around than for a man to get rid of that woman. (if married)

 

[onyxfemme]

Dang.....please say it isnt so

Niggas kill me with "she must no be doin something right at home" A bitch can be doin everything right and we will still cheat, thats just the way god made us but the main thing is having access to hoes, if a man is around beautiful women every day, he will cheat... thats guaranteed.

Ahhhh ok now that was easier to understand

No all I'm saying is men cheat because its cheaper to keep that woman around than for a man to get rid of that woman. (if married)

 

[ScorpDiesel]

Then facts and evidence are probably useless to you. Sure one could define one aspect of 'maturity' by one's capacity to exhibit restraint . . .

. . . but THAT doesn't explain ANYTHING, especially WHY SO MUCH RESTRAINT IS NECESSARY IN THE FIRST PLACE. Nature has a tendency to organize life in such a way that animals purposefulness or UTILITY is - well, 2nd NATURE.

Meaning if we, humans, were intended to be life mates, or anything of the like, we'd have chemicals expressions that wold COUNTERACT or turn OFF temptation after we 'bonded' with a mate.

Simple unfounded explanations and conclusions like the ones you and scorpd believe may be comforting, but NATURAL HISTORY and the statistics suggest otherwise.


Str8 talk,

JG

That's pure bullshit. That's 'bout as dumb as saying "If humans were meant to fly, nature would've given us wings."

But if you wanna go the "natural selection" route, then humans have a tendency to be violent too, and there's TONS of evidence to support that. Is the solution make up bullshit justifications & generalizations & complacence or do we as EVOLVED BEINGS exercise restraint & compassion?

 

[John_Gault]

That's pure bullshit. That's 'bout as dumb as saying "If humans were meant to fly, nature would've given us wings."

But if you wanna go the "natural selection" route, then humans have a tendency to be violent too, and there's TONS of evidence to support that. Is the solution make up bullshit justifications & generalizations & complacence or do we as EVOLVED BEINGS exercise restraint & compassion?

Calling bullshit without explanation doesn't make your point . . . it undermines it. And your analogy was a huge 'swing and a miss' of logical fallacy . . . Especially since humans CAN'T FLY . . . we DO however FLY machines. Which if you were interested in making a point . . . You could have said history also reflects our capacity to overcome natures limitations . . . as in, building flying machines . . . since we don't have wings. That might have been slightly clever.

There is no ONE solution . . . but a good start would be to abandon MODELS that aren't very effective, in exchange for models that are more honest. So don't be a jack ass about it. It's a discussion You know damn well monogamy is an artificial device established largely by the church as an organizing solution to empire building. And for that purpose it's very effective. But a 70% divorce rate is a huge HINT.

So far, all you've done is respond without merit, and make a plea for restraint as a sign of maturity. You hadn't bothered to question the need for, and nature of, restraint to begin with. An impassioned response for sure, just not a very thoughtful one.



JG

 

[water]

LAWDAMERCY!
This thread has made me whooosah so many times.
I am sorry that I won't be able to shed any light on the why angle, because I don't cheat- but I couldn't help myself from responding to some of these comments.




ummmm yeah!~
Do 1,000 women/men the same way?
or

Do 1 woman/man 1,000 ways?
Which takes more skill?

words to live by.

QUANTITY vs QUALITY



not only do they not think- they don't think that their shit stinks. I've never been cheated on, but if I was I wouldn't be mourning losing the man- nope- he'd revolt me- what I would be mourning is all the shit I put up with from him thinking that he was worth the opportunity cost (more on that later).





who says that the woman that the man cheated on wanted his crusty shriveled up man parts in the first place.

Since we are talking about lost opportunity, let's look at who has more to lose from being committed. In this day and age where a woman can earn as much or more than a man- you only need a man for sex.

A woman, no matter how busted she may look, will always have several more opportunities to boink than a man of her same level. I venture to say that every woman that you know could be doing a different dude every hour (some do and even get paid for it).

So who really is getting the short end of the stick with getting in a relationship.

It's called cheating because it's not fair. If you want to be with others, keep it above board- maybe I want to be with others, too.

Your penis, your tongue is not that good/unique.

wooooosah!

A lot of that shit you are saying is superficial.

Women may be able to get more penis but really what is the probability of getting a quality man attached to it?

It's the same reason why black females are picking up STDs from prison cats.

A woman can determine who she fucks but it is the man who determines if she becomes a wife.

Doesn't matter who much money she makes, corporate job etc.....

A lot of women want kids and a family to validate all that shit.

That shit of course makes some career women bitter because it is one variable they have no control over.

remember that..........

 

[water]

my friend it's actually deep seeded.

Nah Bro, that is American bastardizing the Queen's English

It's deep seated

 

[onyxfemme]

Dang ya'll focus!

 

[UptempoDro]

^^^

 

[blownaway]

Ahh! Now we can get to why men cheat. If your married and wanted out what would be the outcome? The man would probably let you go.

If a man wants out of a marriage what happens? You drag his ass to court, you want child support, you want the house, the car, the dog you get my point. It was you who spoke of "grimy revengeful acts." Most women want revenge even though it may have been their unwillingness to perform sexual acts to keep their man happy at home. If a man is unhappy at home he will seek happiness.

So to quote Johnny Taylor, It's Cheaper to Keep Her, and just do your thing on the side.

PREACH BROTHER

I was just telling this to a co worker we as men can't just leave

 

[onyxfemme]

I still do not see why not......

PREACH BROTHER

I was just telling this to a co worker we as men can't just leave

 

[Rossini]

Dang.....please say it isnt so

I won't ruin your dreams, there are some men that will be faithful but usually those are the lame ass simp niggas.

 

[kinglickk]

I won't ruin your dreams, there are some men that will be faithful but usually those are the lame ass simp niggas.

i did that.. but its odd, when you have a woman more women want you..some women even get off knowing you have a gf. and i think its also the thrill of creeping. now that i'm older next relationship i'm in i wont cheat..

this rich world dominating bitch I can not tolerate -just wanna impregnate her.

Nah Bro, that is American bastardizing the Queen's English

It's deep seated

I would gladly moderate a sub-forum dedicated to improving the spoken and written language skills of the BGOL family.

 

[onyxfemme]

**quietly whispers**
Simps are buildable...

I won't ruin your dreams, there are some men that will be faithful but usually those are the lame ass simp niggas.

 

[freshnclean]

..and the sad thing is that in 2010 alot of women want to be so "equal" to men that theyt try to do the same thing.

The women that I know that try to go the playa route (we used to call them hoes but its different out here now) allllll end up really hurt, or bitter or mentally scarred and exhausted a few years or less into their little lifestyle. Women have a hard time admitting that we are just build differently.

A women cant fuck like a man could fuck, because they deal with less logic/reasoning and more emotion. Every woman I know that was talking that "Im a playa" jargon ended up getting emotionally attached to at least one of the dudes.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

It may not have seemed like it but I was speaking in general. I didn't say you I said "women cheat for the same reason as men". But I don't think age has anything to do with cheating.

But let me ask you this, would you (or any woman) stay with a man that didn't satisfy you sexually? Men don't!

Men very often do, especially in longer relationships where they have more invested (monetarily and emotionally).

Niggas kill me with "she must no be doin something right at home" A bitch can be doin everything right and we will still cheat, thats just the way god made us but the main thing is having access to hoes, if a man is around beautiful women every day, he will cheat... thats guaranteed.

There's some truth to that. But for most married men that have cheated, something was wrong. Not necessarily with his woman but there is something awry that he feels the need to use another woman to fill (I know women cheat as much as men but I can only talk about men).

I still do not see why not......

Fuck the money Onyx. The truth is, usually, we don't want to. We want to fuck this other chick but we want the wife. All the other stuff about "cheaper to keep her" is macho talk men use to cover up. We're just not good at exposing our emotional side.

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I would gladly moderate a sub-forum dedicated to improving the spoken and written language skills of the BGOL family.

It's sorely needed. You might have to get on HNIC's payroll because it'll be hard to maintain any type of job moderating that sub-forum.

A women cant fuck like a man could fuck, because they deal with less logic/reasoning and more emotion. Every woman I know that was talking that "Im a playa" jargon ended up getting emotionally attached to at least one of the dudes.

That's no different than men. Niggas love big talking but every dude has at least one chick that just crushed them because he was either more in love with her than she him or he was in love with her longer than she was with him. The idea that woman can't fuck without emotion is refuted every time someone reminds us that prostitution is the world's oldest profession.

 

[mailboxpimp]

I cheated for no dayum reasons in my early 20's. I was like 21 or 22. Bottom line, I was wrong and lost a good man. I hurt him and I will never hurt another man again....
I did it because I was out w/ the girls getting attention and this guy who is very well known here in Indy asked to lick my pussy. THAT IS MY WEAKNESS. I was young and immature. It was the worst mistake of my life.

HOWEVER-
If I catch my man cheating on me...I am not responsible for amount of grimy revengeful acts that may happen.

If I say anymore this thread will self destruct

how do you exact revenge on someone using your body with someone else?????? now a days any sexual encounter is a potential health hazard... how does that work?? your pussy is your pussy.... my dick is my dick......... when im wit you its all yours ... when you wit me its all mines...... you cant control what someone do with their shit..... it belongs to them... not you!

 

[cb71109]

In order to answer your question you have to ask other females. Think of any other females in your family or social group(sister, mom, grandmom, aunt, cousin, niece, friend, stepmom). Ask them why do they allow the man to cheat on their SigO. In order to correct the situation(which it never will) women gonna have to colletively stake a stance on cheating men. So if somebody you know is creeping with a man that is taken, take it upon your self to check that bitch. What she is doing is causing a butterfly effect that can possibly fuck it up for all women. Peace.

 

[onyxfemme]

Who said anything about using my body to seek revenge?
Please do NOT underestimate a scorned woman. Also please dont confuse me with what some other women may do.

how do you exact revenge on someone using your body with someone else?????? now a days any sexual encounter is a potential health hazard... how does that work?? your pussy is your pussy.... my dick is my dick......... when im wit you its all yours ... when you wit me its all mines...... you cant control what someone do with their shit..... it belongs to them... not you!

I am so sorry, it could be because I am working on about 10 things at once but I have no idea what you are talking about.
I will come back and re read this in a minute.

In order to answer your question you have to ask other females. Think of any other females in your family or social group(sister, mom, grandmom, aunt, cousin, niece, friend, stepmom). Ask them why do they allow the man to cheat on their SigO. In order to correct the situation(which it never will) women gonna have to colletively stake a stance on cheating men. So if somebody you know is creeping with a man that is taken, take it upon your self to check that bitch. What she is doing is causing a butterfly effect that can possibly fuck it up for all women. Peace.

 

[Mo-Better]

Men very often do, especially in longer relationships where they have more invested (monetarily and emotionally).

I can't speak for all men But I know that's not me. I enjoy sex too much to stay with a woman that's sexually inept or incapable of satisfying my sexual needs.

I will not stay with a woman for monetary reasons. It's unfair to me and her. I'm sure there are those who would do that but I'm not a user an I don't want to cheat on my woman.

 

[Mo-Better]

Fuck the money Onyx. The truth is, usually, we don't want to. We want to fuck this other chick but we want the wife. All the other stuff about "cheaper to keep her" is macho talk men use to cover up. We're just not good at exposing our emotional side.

Why do you think hookers still exist even with all the deadly diseases around today? Men want that sexual freak. That woman that will do anything to satisfy a man, the shit wifey won't do or can't do. We will seek out a freak.

Don't believe me get married then find some chick you like better. One that will have you busting your nutt within 5 minutes with foreplay included, every time you get together. Then ask your wife for a divorce. That judge will show you about macho. Man there's nothing macho about what I said, that's the reality of today's society.

 

[M.H.C.]

Okay, so basically this thread kind of cosigns women's and mens thoughts as to why there aren't many good men/women out there. You can't trust nobody these days. How depressing is it to hear that the opposite sex is "hardwired" to cheat? I hear that in real life and on this forum as well. That's why at 21 i'm thinking about making the woman I have now Official. If you want to be single then be single, if you can handle commitment then do it to the fullest.

Maybe it's tied to how we grow up? Most of the still single men and women in my family grew up with the dad who was a "playa" or mom that "couldn't find the right one". I grew up with a single moms until she met a man who was man enough to take care of us and since that happened at a young age, that is what I learned and hope to emulate.

Family life, relationships aren't meant for everyone but in no way are we "hardwired" to just cheat.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I can't speak for all men But I know that's not me. I enjoy sex too much to stay with a woman that's sexually inept or incapable of satisfying my sexual needs.

I will not stay with a woman for monetary reasons. It's unfair to me and her. I'm sure there are those who would do that but I'm not a user an I don't want to cheat on my woman.

It's not me, either but as I've gotten older and met more and more people who are either married or in long term monogamous relationships, I've been surprised at the number, not just who aren't sexually satisfied but don't even have sex. I know the average married man has sex more than the average single guy but some of my married friends act like sex is on Hailey's Comet's schedule. That shit is sad and a little horrifying.


Though, if it was a real medical condition/situation, I'd figure something out. That would fit under the "better or for worse" statute.

Why do you think hookers still exist even with all the deadly diseases around today? Men want that sexual freak. That woman that will do anything to satisfy a man, the shit wifey won't do or can't do. We will seek out a freak.

Don't believe me get married then find some chick you like better. One that will have you busting your nutt within 5 minutes with foreplay included, every time you get together. Then ask your wife for a divorce. That judge will show you about macho. Man there's nothing macho about what I said, that's the reality of today's society.

It's all talk. If we gave a real shit about that, we wouldn't fuck around in the first place. We don't just leave because we don't want to. We might be committing acts that suggest otherwise but we want to be with our woman, we (those that do cheat/have cheated) have/had the opportunity to fuck someone we wanted to fuck and we thought we wouldn't get caught.
Ask any woman that left her nigga and she'll tell you. Ask her if that nigga begged her not to leave him or begged her not to take his shit. That nigga will spend way more trying to make it up than he will if she left.