***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main eventer

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

yeah, if he gets in there with Silva, Anderson will beat the Gatorade out of his ass.
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

You realize everyone sees the hate in you right?

This cant be taken seriously.

Who are you again to tell us who is a fighter and who isnt?

Easily.

GSP is not a fighter. He is a Mixed Martial Artist. There's a difference.

BJ Penn - fighter
Silva - fighter
Shogun - fighter
Machida - fighter
Diaz Bros - fighters
Nog bros - fighters
Wand Silva - fighter
Dos Santos - fighter
Josh Koscheck - fighter

Those are fighters. Fighters have something in their blood. They love to fight. They will fight at anytime, anyplace, any person. You can call them on a week's notice and they'll step up and fight if healthy. They look for challenges. They aren't satisfied with just sitting around, waiting to be told who to fight. That is fighting. And there are less and less fighters in the UFC.

You can call it hate, I just spit the truth about GSP and I used to be one of his biggest fans.
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

Alves has no shot.

I keep thinking the same with the knees. Why not go for it and pray it lands? If not, you were going to the mat anyways.

Thiago Alves is a nasty Thai boxer. probably the most feared at his weight. I was surprised as fuck he aint utilize the knees to stuff his take downs. like you said what the hell you got to lose. :dunno:
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

Did YOU see that fight?

Leites was running like a bitch and flopping on the ground. He would not engage.

Hardy was coming at GSP. You can't compare the two at all.

Silva was willing and ready to fight Leites, just that Leites knew he shouldn't have been in there with Spider so he bitched up.

bullshit bruh silva could have killed leites - he didnt out of respect - even with leites bitchin up he could have beat him
nigga was soccer kick trippin him

you just hate gsp and fedor and luv bj and silva
i dont blame u
i just like all of em
did grease punch BJ in the face? cmon man youre still arguing this shit years later
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

Easily.

GSP is not a fighter. He is a Mixed Martial Artist. There's a difference.

BJ Penn - fighter
Silva - fighter
Shogun - fighter
Machida - fighter
Diaz Bros - fighters
Nog bros - fighters
Wand Silva - fighter
Dos Santos - fighter
Josh Koscheck - fighter

Those are fighters. Fighters have something in their blood. They love to fight. They will fight at anytime, anyplace, any person. You can call them on a week's notice and they'll step up and fight if healthy. They look for challenges. They aren't satisfied with just sitting around, waiting to be told who to fight. That is fighting. And there are less and less fighters in the UFC.

You can call it hate, I just spit the truth about GSP and I used to be one of his biggest fans.

And GSP beat two of them and finished Penn by TKO. So what does that make him?
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

To lose?

It is not his fault that no one in the division can stop him from take downs...

It is up to the competition to adjust to GSP, not the other way. If u are the Champ and u keep winning, why change?


I said if he wants a challenge
we all know gsp has a formula that could keep him undefeated for the next 4 yrs.

but

who wants to watch the same fight over and over again
dana white or the fans don't want it.

GSP showed nothing new in this fight.

the thing is GSP can get you to the ground
but
he's not technically skilled enough or strong enough
to finish the guys on the ground

Hardy was much bigger than gsp
so is a lot of the other welterweights like alves

props to GSP and is camp
they got a winning formuala
but
this is going to get boring very quick.
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

Easily.

Hate hate hate hate hate. Hate hate hate hate hate hate. There's a difference.

BJ Penn - fighter
Silva - fighter
Shogun - fighter
Machida - fighter
Diaz Bros - fighters
Nog bros - fighters
Wand Silva - fighter
Dos Santos - fighter
Josh Koscheck - fighter

You can call it hate, I just spit the truth about GSP and I used to be one of his biggest fans.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:
you're the biggest hater in the fight threads nowadays but its cool cuz its funny
 
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these dudes need to have 5 lightweights trying to take them down at a time to improve takedown defense against fast muthafuckas and have 5 heavyweights constantly on top of their ass to prepare for GSP.
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

:hmm: still with this grease shit? :lol:

U stay mad at shit long after the niggas involved stop crying :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

:lol: Nah, not mad, but that's a fact. That nigga Phil Nurse greased his chest and back between the 1st and 2nd rounds. Lo and behold, BJ can't get rubber guard as his feet slide down GSP's back. That's just what it was. GSP would take him in a rematch.

Real talk, you talking like GSP fucked your girlfriend or something. He may not finish fights like Silva but it's not like he is running or not throwing any punches. Has he refused to fight anyone in front of him? Point blank is that he used his game-plan and won. Why not be mad at Hardy for not using past fights to know not to get taken down?

GSP has the lowest finishing percentage of any champ in the UFC since becoming champ.

GSP 3 out of 7
BJ 4 of 4
Silva 7 of 8

Lesnar and Machida only had 1 fight.

That's just a fact.

And no one is going to stop GSP's takedowns. No one. I'm saying he could be more aggressive. I mean I know you heard his own coach telling him not to pass. Not to pass? Why the fuck not?
 
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And GSP beat two of them and finished Penn by TKO. So what does that make him?

It makes him an artist! :lol:

leroy just hates gsp - talk about fedor and he'd do the same
fedor isnt a fighter because he didnt go to the ufc :lol:
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

Easily.

GSP is not a fighter. He is a Mixed Martial Artist. There's a difference.

BJ Penn - fighter
Silva - fighter
Shogun - fighter
Machida - fighter
Diaz Bros - fighters
Nog bros - fighters
Wand Silva - fighter
Dos Santos - fighter
Josh Koscheck - fighter

Those are fighters. Fighters have something in their blood. They love to fight. They will fight at anytime, anyplace, any person. You can call them on a week's notice and they'll step up and fight if healthy. They look for challenges. They aren't satisfied with just sitting around, waiting to be told who to fight. That is fighting. And there are less and less fighters in the UFC.

You can call it hate, I just spit the truth about GSP and I used to be one of his biggest fans.


Euh, the question was who are YOU to tell US who is a fighter and who isnt? Didnt you get that?

Frankly, like I said before, everyone in here can tell its hate and not "truth" you are trying to spit. So you know what I think about your list. GSP damages his opponents more then most of the guys on your list.

You dont get to be in GSP's position without being a fighter. Look, martial artists end up as judo and karate teachers. KOs mean different things to fans then to the fighters. GSP doesnt need a KO, he severely punishes them to a bloody mess. When was the last time his opponent didnt end up looking like they need to retire? His last lost. But he aint a fighter right???

Anyways, we both know its never worth bothering with hate. Hope you get over whatever it is he did to you.
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

I want GSP vs Anderson Silva
 
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bullshit bruh silva could have killed leites - he didnt out of respect - even with leites bitchin up he could have beat him
nigga was soccer kick trippin him

you just hate gsp and fedor and luv bj and silva
i dont blame u
i just like all of em
did grease punch BJ in the face? cmon man youre still arguing this shit years later


I don't hate Fedor. He's overrated. That's all I say. And he ducks comp.

And I say GSP is boring. Not he isn't a great MMArtist.

As for the Penn fight, I don't believe GSP would've been able to punch BJ on the ground had Penn been able to utilize his rubber guard which was nullified by illegal lubrication. The NSAC admitted there was excess grease on GSP, they just didn't sanction him. BJ still lost and would lose a rematch.
And GSP beat two of them and finished Penn by TKO. So what does that make him?

That makes him a better MMArtist than them both. Just because you're a fighter doesn't make you the best in the world. GSP is better than both of those. However, I dont' feel we'll EVER see just how good GSP can be because he's afraid to challenge himself.
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
you're the biggest hater in the fight threads nowadays but its cool cuz its funny

So you telling me there's not a difference between a fighter and a MMArtist. Just like in boxing there's a difference between a guy who's content to rule the roost at his weight class and the guy who moves up several classes for the best fights.
 
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:lol: Nah, not mad, but that's a fact. That nigga Phil Nurse greased his chest and back between the 1st and 2nd rounds. Lo and behold, BJ can't get rubber guard as his feet slide down GSP's back. That's just what it was. GSP would take him in a rematch.
:lol: its cool
i guess i dont care even if bj was cheated because he's been talking too much shit but if youre getting punched in the mouth that aint grease bruh
i still like bj but he was on some mir shit



GSP has the lowest finishing percentage of any champ in the UFC since becoming champ.

GSP 3 out of 7
BJ 4 of 4
Silva 7 of 8

Lesnar and Machida only had 1 fight.

That's just a fact.

And no one is going to stop GSP's takedowns. No one. I'm saying he could be more aggressive. I mean I know you heard his own coach telling him not to pass. Not to pass? Why the fuck not?

they have a strategy for every round and he told him to gnp dude from the guard- why? because hardy's leg's would get tired - why would they do that? so when if they standup later his mobility and power would be fucked
 
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That makes him a better MMArtist than them both. Just because you're a fighter doesn't make you the best in the world. GSP is better than both of those. However, I dont' feel we'll EVER see just how good GSP can be because he's afraid to challenge himself.

And what is that? Him going super saiyan? The man is slowly wiping out the WW division and you want more? :lol:
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

GSP > silva


i dun told yall nigguz

and LD is all about Brock
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

It makes him an artist! :lol:

leroy just hates gsp - talk about fedor and he'd do the same
fedor isnt a fighter because he didnt go to the ufc :lol:

C'mon son. You know good and damn well that Fedor is ducking Lesnar, Carwin, Cain, Dos Santos, etc. If he is the best, he would fight the best. That's like Lebron James going to the D-League.

Euh, the question was who are YOU to tell US who is a fighter and who isnt? Didnt you get that?

Frankly, like I said before, everyone in here can tell its hate and not "truth" you are trying to spit. So you know what I think about your list. GSP damages his opponents more then most of the guys on your list.

You dont get to be in GSP's position without being a fighter. Look, martial artists end up as judo and karate teachers. KOs mean different things to fans then to the fighters. GSP doesnt need a KO, he severely punishes them to a bloody mess. When was the last time his opponent didnt end up looking like they need to retire? His last lost. But he aint a fighter right???

Anyways, we both know its never worth bothering with hate. Hope you get over whatever it is he did to you.

I'm a fan of the sport and have been watching for years. It's easy to tell who is a fighter (someone who loves to FIGHT) and who is just a MMArtist (treats MMA as a sport and plays to win).

Yes you can be as good as GSP and not be a fighter. GSP fights. Hell, he used to be a fighter. He used to have that hunger. Serra took it from him.

None of his opponents (except Fitch and BJ although not externally) have looked damaged or bad. He's just beat them. Took them down. Threw a little punches. Attempt a sub or two and ride out the clock. GSP plays Princeton basketball in the cage.

Did you say GSP damages his opponents more than the people on my list? Did you see BJ's last opponents (Sherk, Florian, Stevenson, Sanchez)? Beaten and bloody. Machida made Rashad into a photoshop legend. Shogun had Machida bloodied and bruised and fucked up Liddell's world. Being a fighter isn't about who inflicts the most damage. It's just an inate attitude that a person has. I don't believe GSP has it anymore.

If you don't think GSP's fights are dull and repetitive then I don't know what to say.
 
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oh and btw

Brock would Destory Fedor.
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

And what is that? Him going super saiyan? The man is slowly wiping out the WW division and you want more? :lol:

Move up in weight. It's simple. Penn did it. Silva does it. Why won't GSP do it?

He doesn't even have to fight Silva. Fight Chael Sonnen or Vitor.
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

I predict that people are going to turn on GSP if he does that shit in his next fight.
 
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Move up in weight. It's simple. Penn did it. Silva does it. Why won't GSP do it?

He doesn't even have to fight Silva. Fight Chael Sonnen or Vitor.

It's not that simple. Silva could do it because the MW division isn't stacked like the WW and Dana decided to weed out the true contenders before having a MW title fight. Meanwhile in WW, you got two or three guys vowing for a title shot. Do you let GSP go up and fight a MW and let the other guys fight each other and lose two possible title fights? Dana White is about money, doesn't care about challenge...
 
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I don't hate Fedor. He's overrated. That's all I say. And he ducks comp.

that's bullshit hate dude
what comp has he ducked in leagues that he is in?
you say a dude who beat mad people in pride is ducking comp - who did he duck? but he's ducking because m1 couldnt get a deal done with ufc? you dont even make sense bruh
youre confusing business with dude's career
he was trying to get it on with couture when he was the top guy in the ufc when randy was tryin to dead his ufc contract

And I say GSP is boring. Not he isn't a great MMArtist.

As for the Penn fight, I don't believe GSP would've been able to punch BJ on the ground had Penn been able to utilize his rubber guard which was nullified by illegal lubrication. The NSAC admitted there was excess grease on GSP, they just didn't sanction him. BJ still lost and would lose a rematch.
he punched him in the face standing up bruh




That makes him a better MMArtist than them both. Just because you're a fighter doesn't make you the best in the world. GSP is better than both of those. However, I dont' feel we'll EVER see just how good GSP can be because he's afraid to challenge himself.

cmon man that isnt a fair assessment in my view - thats like saying we wont see how good silva's chin is because no one ever hits him


So you telling me there's not a difference between a fighter and a MMArtist. Just like in boxing there's a difference between a guy who's content to rule the roost at his weight class and the guy who moves up several classes for the best fights.
fighter is a generic term that applies to all mixed martial artists by definition
does he punch people and get punched in the face? then he's a fuckin fighter :lol:

the distinction between people who run their division is weak too
was Ali a bum because he didnt drop 50 lbs and fight at another weight class? i dont think less of a fighter because he doesnt change classes but yeah manny and floyd are even more HOF worthy because of what theyve done - that shit is very hard to do though

i dig what youre tryin to say but cmon man hardy could have ko'd him they were standing up a while right? hardy couldnt do it and the fight went to the ground and he still couldnt do it
it aint like gsp is giving niggas kisses and flowers n shit in the ring
 
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these dudes need to have 5 lightweights trying to take them down at a time to improve takedown defense against fast muthafuckas and have 5 heavyweights constantly on top of their ass to prepare for GSP.

Just picturing this is hilarious.
 
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B.J.'s brother put a stop to that brutality. GSP is not putting away any dude with a good chin with his ground and pound or stand up. But a win is a win according to most. GSP might go down as the best WW, but he will never be the best p4p all time because you have to go up in weight to do that...or be a heavyweight
 
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It's not that simple. Silva could do it because the MW division isn't stacked like the WW and Dana decided to weed out the true contenders before having a MW title fight. Meanwhile in WW, you got two or three guys vowing for a title shot. Do you let GSP go up and fight a MW and let the other guys fight each other and lose two possible title fights? Dana White is about money, doesn't care about challenge...

WW isn't stacked. GSP has beat them all. Who's left? Name me three people who GSP already hasn't snuffed that is worthy of a title shot. MAYBE MAYBE Paulo Thiago. GSP doesn't want to move up. Anderson and BJ BEGGED to move up. It ain't had shit to do with contenders because the LW had a number one contender and we had to wait until BJ fought GSP to get that fight.
 
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C'mon son. You know good and damn well that Fedor is ducking Lesnar, Carwin, Cain, Dos Santos, etc. If he is the best, he would fight the best. That's like Lebron James going to the D-League.

you're insane carwin cain dos santos? :lol:
them niggas didnt even have names last year :smh:

:lol: he's duckin Jon Jones too! gtfoh :lol:
 
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Just picturing this is hilarious.

Yeah, it's funny, but GSP got fucking personal chefs, top notch training partners, conditioning, coaching etc. it will be hard as fuck to catch up to him with the resources he has available. I'm just saying the opponent has to be prepared as fuck for what they know will happen..which is a shot and a takedown and keep down.
 
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Man, I can't wait to see what Carwin and Lesnar can do against Dos Santos, and Cain.
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

jon jones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


thats my cousin
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

Move up in weight. It's simple. Penn did it. Silva does it. Why won't GSP do it?

He doesn't even have to fight Silva. Fight Chael Sonnen or Vitor.


I don't blame gsp for not moving up in weight
he looks small at 170 so there is no way he could move up to
185 and not be severely undersized.

Hardy was a much bigger guy in the ring
you have to give gsp props for dominating a much bigger guy like hardy in the ring
but
he just didn't have the size or strength to do any damage to Hardy while on the ground.
 
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Man, I can't wait to see what Carwin and Lesnar can do against Dos Santos, and Cain.

i think dos santos will put cain to sleep - same with carwin

i wanna see carwin v lesnar and carwin v dos santos
lesnar may be too big for dos santos but with those hands of stone dos santos might be able to put him to sleep

now they will throw mir at all these other upncomin heavies
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

WW isn't stacked. GSP has beat them all. Who's left? Name me three people who GSP already hasn't snuffed that is worthy of a title shot. MAYBE MAYBE Paulo Thiago. GSP doesn't want to move up. Anderson and BJ BEGGED to move up. It ain't had shit to do with contenders because the LW had a number one contender and we had to wait until BJ fought GSP to get that fight.

Well Finch just won tonight and he put up a tough fight with GSP a few years back. There is Kos who has improved since he last fought GSP. Then there are two dark horses who could earn a shot with one o two more fights in Paul Daley & Paulo Thiago.
 
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I don't blame gsp for not moving up in weight
he looks small at 170 so there is no way he could move up to
185 and not be severely undersized.

Hardy was a much bigger guy in the ring
you have to give gsp props for dominating a much bigger guy like hardy in the ring
but
he just didn't have the size or strength to do any damage to Hardy while on the ground.
cosign - gsp dont have the frame for 185
silva has a frame for mw to hw
penn has one for ww-mw
 
Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 111 thread - Saturday, March 27th, 2010 - GSP/HARDY main event

Makk when u wanna bet on that brock fedor fight?

o i forgot its never gonna happen bruh

sorry
 
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