hey, what's a nupe?
PacMan's Dirty Little Secret is about to leak!!
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Uh no. It's not the difference of opinion that makes you ignorance, it's the complete lack of facts on anything that makes you ignorant. And blissfully ignorant because you refuse to learn anything when your lack of knowledge is exposed as shallow.
And no, you wouldn't. Dudes that get real live on computers never have that type of heart in life, so they act it out on their keyboard.
Good day, sir.
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You mean like the brothas who rise up and say you wouldn't tell them that to their face huh? Nigga do you even read what the fuck you write. (LOL) YOU have offered nothing of substance and yet you have the audacity to say you're offering facts and others are not? Fuck Floyd. He's seling bullshit and you're buying it. Stop acting like a woman when you come across folks who ain't buying it. Got grown ass men talking about tellin' on folks and shit. What kind of gay ass shit is that? LOL Anyway...We're done.
Until I see hard evidence. The fight is not going to happen.
Gonna move on. Fakk both of them. No one is putting money in my pocket so I refuse to show the slightest emotion for either one of those motherfakkers. Not going to go to bat for 2 rich motherfakkers.
Both of them will be fine.
Gonna move on. Fakk both of them. No one is putting money in my pocket so I refuse to show the slightest emotion for either one of those motherfakkers. Not going to go to bat for 2 rich motherfakkers.
Both of them will be fine.
Well said.
Rick Ronson
Banned
more mind games
you're on a board with intelligent adults clown
fuck is you fooling?
you're looking for what you got.
============================more mind games
you're on a board with intelligent adults clown
fuck is you fooling?
you're looking for what you got.
Intelligent adults? So you think it's okay to include yourself in the mix. Dreams of grandeur muthafugga. Dreams of muthafuggin grandeur. As far as what I got? All I have is less respect for niggas like yourself. Time to end the pissin' match son. Some of you can't hang due to being anatomically incorrect. (LOL) Peace...Seriously.
C/S. These Floyd lovers are so blatantly biased that they're beyond reasoning with. Then they have the audacity to mention intelligence and speak as if they are actually being objective. Meanwhile, they can't see absolutely ANYTHING wrong with what Mayweather does and they can't imagine him sharing even part of the fault for the downfall of the fight with Pac. I obviously think Mayweather bears most of the blame for the fight falling through but at least I can see where some people are coming from on the other side. Don't even waste your time with them.
When you say "nigga logic", you're right. Maybe it should be "country nigga logic" though because I'm from the city and I think most people are a lot more street smart than that. I can't see any street smart person falling for the whole Mayweather charade. Most people I know in Brooklyn think Mayweather's acting like a bitch. I look at Mayweather's whole game as a big con. It's just a con and more power to him. He's trying to fight the easiest fights possible for maximum money and then be out. That's okay, but people shouldn't confuse that with being a great boxer or having a legacy.
Rick Ronson
Banned
niggga your shit sounds like charlie browns teacher to most on this board at this point (wahn wahn wahn)
get the fuck outta here and dont bring your bitch ass back
doubt anyone is interested in the bullshit you're talkin or how you present it kid.
seriously if you weren't you..........you'd be annoyed by you. (if that makes sense)
but then you came to annoy people.(or lash out)
Brooklyn? Home to mental giants and such stalwart example of "street smarts" like Zab Judah and Paulie Malignaggi. Oh to be so smart.
You, like that last fool, have also managed to avoid, in your zeal to point out the bias in others, my question of how your stance would be if it was Pacquiao asking for drug/blood testing and Mayweather walking away.
I like Floyd but I like Manny too. Doesn't matter, suspicious shit is suspicious shit and Manny and his whole approach has been suspicious. The different excuses that turn out to be false. The negotiating with other opponents even before they went to mediation. There is no way you, Nupe, or buk can say honestly if the roles were reversed, you would be shitting on Pac and saying Mayweather's not looking dirty.
Rick Ronson
Banned
manny has lost
not only lost been knocked out (its on youtube)
floyd has never lost a fight
who the fuck are yall fooling?
not only lost been knocked out (its on youtube)
floyd has never lost a fight
who the fuck are yall fooling?
what bias are you talking about?
all you PBF haters are a fucking joke...I understand having a favorite boxer but there is no excuse for Manny not to take the bloodtest to prove he is clean and go on with the fight.. today Mark Mcguire just admitted what we all knew or suspected that he used steriods he was never caught but baseball had a testing regiment that was skirted and beaten...PBF is right to demand the test and not budge on that issue it is his life and legacy he is concerned with..you think if the fight happens with no bloodtesting and he lost and in ten years Manny comes forward and apologize for using steriods it doesn't change anything at that point this is not the NCAA where they erase records from the books this is pro boxing and I personally feel every boxer ranked in the top 25 in every weight class should be bloodtested for each fight...when Kobe and Lebron and all other NBA stars play in the Olympics they have to take the test the same standards should apply here
This cat, Zef is co-sign that racist motherfucker.... I can't believe it. Shit talking over a fight or fighter is one thing but damn....
You see, you fail to understand that I am not in love with any fighter. You are obviously in love with Mayweather. If the shoe was on the other foot, I'd think exactly the same way. If Manny had requested that Mayweather take extra testing, I would think he's out of his mind. If Mayweather walked away, I'd see it the exact same way I see it now. I absolutely see no difference in the situation regardless of who it is because I am not hung up on either fighter. It boggles my mind that you even suggest that. I think you are so hung up in your favoritism of a fighter that you think everyone is the same. You mention buk but even from what he has written I don't see favoritism. I see a neutral guy just writing about shit that's affecting the whole sport. You Mayweather lovers are conned and on the defensive.
So, for you to pull this stuff about "if the roles were reversed" means you really just don't get it.
FINALLY an answer. One I completely disagree with but at least an answer. This has nothing to do with being hung up on any one fighter. As I've said before, if the roles were reversed, I would think Floyd was dirty. I think it's suspicious for a fighter to come up with several different lies to not blood test. I think it suspicious that a purported clean fighter wouldn't want every available test to show he's clean in the face of skepticism especially with at least $40 million on the line.
Boxing isn't basketball or football or baseball, there are no hard and fast rules except the ones about conduct in the fight. Everything else is negotiable, there isn't this uniformity that you and others seem to claim there is.
Honestly, I wasn't even aware there was a question. Maybe I missed one of your posts. I think there is some uniformity. Of course there are things that vary from commission to commission but there is some uniformity. Hard and fast rules. Plaster is not allowed in gloves in any commission - see Margarito. However, hands may be wrapped in different ways which is why Trinidad's wraps were fine in Vegas and other places but not fine in New York. It all depends on what rule you are talking about.
As far as negotiation, I guess we just differ in our interpretation of what negotiation is. I don't think that one guy should be penalized, declared guilty of something or publicly stained for not agreeing to something in a negotiation. That just doesn't sound logical or reasonable to me. It negotiation, not adjudication. I am not going to get into what I do professionally but I work in this stuff so my education, training and way of thinking regarding this topic is just different. Not saying it's better, just saying it's different.
What type of law/s do you interpret? Cause I think we might have similar jobs...
I don't want to get into it man. I don't know how I would react if someone at work realized it was me writing some of the freaky shit I write on the porn boards.
I don't want to get into it man. I don't know how I would react if someone at work realized it was me writing some of the freaky shit I write on the porn boards.
nigga, if people at my job knew about BGOL I would be shocked
and I would not know how to explain this.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m...r_torpedoing_fight_with_floyd_mayweather.html
Just when you thought boxing was about to get it right, and give sports fans the most significant match in the 25 years, it performed down to expectations.
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and Manny Pacquiao won't be meeting in a mega fight in Las Vegas on March 13. The fight officially died over the weekend when Pacquiao agreed to fight Joshua Clottey at Cowboys Stadium. Mayweather is reviewing his options. In the greatest testament to how messed up the sport really is both boxers plan to fight in separate matches on Pay Per View on March 13.
How this happened is beyond the comprehension of anyone who hasn't ever spent a significant amount of time around boxings power brokers. The average person rightfully wonders why anyone would walk away from a $40 million pay day just because they don't want to take some random blood tests. That is what Pacquiao did.
You want to blame someone for killing the fight? Blame Pacquiao and his reps. Where else do you place the blame? You can scream that Mayweather didn't want the fight, but there wasn't anything to indicate that.
When Pacquiao and his reps included a potential deal breaking clause that would penalize Mayweather $10 million for every pound he was over the welterweight limit, he agreed to it. End of story. Mayweather was ready to sign the deal.
But Pacquiao became offended with Mayweather's clause that both fighters - and the important word here is "both" - agree to Olympic style drug testing, which included random urine and blood testing.
This was not a last minute clause that Mayweather came up with to try to scuttle the negotiations and get out of the fight. It was included in the initial proposal, as was Pacquiao's $10 million "fat" clause. But we didn't hear anything about this being a problem until Dec. 22 when word got out that the fight was in jeopardy.
Since then Pacquiao has waffled on just why he didn't want to take random blood tests and has even sued Mayweather and his camp for defamation.
In the current climate where every athlete who performs super human feats is under suspicion of being on performance enhancing drugs, the request for Pacquiao to take random drug tests is not so far fetched.
Mark McGwire's admission to using PEDs during his assault on one of the most hallowed records in baseball after years of denials makes Pacquiao's protests about being smeared by people's suspicions ring hollow.
To say that he has never tested positive for PEDs is not enough. Welterweight champion Shane Mosley has never tested positive for steroids in any of the urine tests that were administered by the Nevada and California boxing commissions. But he has admitted before a federal grand jury that he took a designer steroid called "the clear" and also used EPO.
Paquiao's promoter Bob Arum has been trying to bail on the fight for the last two weeks. He has consistently declared the fight dead, even as his stepson, Top Rank President Todd duBoef, was feverishly working with Golden Boy Promotions, the negotiators for Mayweather, to keep it alive. First Arum said he was going to put together a match between Pacquiao and Yuri Foreman, a newly minted 154-pound world champion who is also promoted by Arum.
Then this weekend he closed the deal for Pacquiao to fight welterweight Joshua Clottey, another boxer that he represents, at Cowboys Stadium on the March 13 date that had been set aside for Pacquiao-Mayweather.
This can't have been an easy negotiation for Arum. He was sitting opposite a pair of boxers that he groomed to become two of the biggest cash cows in the sport before they left him to ring up cash registers for themselves. That couldn't have been easy on Arum's ego. But I would hate to think that Arum undermined what was potentially the highest grossing boxing event in the sports history because of his dislike for De La Hoya, owner of Golden Boy Promotions, and Mayweather.
Strange things have happen in boxing, but not much stranger than the collapse of this fight that everyone was clamoring to see. In the end money wasn't enough to save it.
What we're left with is Pacquiao, a Filipino national hero, fighting Clottey, who hails from Brooklyn by way of Accra, Ghana in Africa, fighting deep in the heart of Texas. I could care less. And the sports world will shrug, because they don't know Joshua Clottey from Jacques Cousteau.
Cowboys Stadium would have been the perfect venue for Pacquiao-Mayweather because it is a sports event - the Super Bowl of boxing. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has booked boxing's version of a preseason game in Pacquiao-Clottey.
Too bad, because the time for Pacquiao-Mayweather is right now, not September or December. To use another bad football analogy, by failing to get Pacquiao-Mayweather done boxing has fumbled the ball on the goal line going in. If Pacquiao loses to Clottey, no one will care if he ever fights Mayweather.
Just when you thought boxing was about to get it right, and give sports fans the most significant match in the 25 years, it performed down to expectations.
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. and Manny Pacquiao won't be meeting in a mega fight in Las Vegas on March 13. The fight officially died over the weekend when Pacquiao agreed to fight Joshua Clottey at Cowboys Stadium. Mayweather is reviewing his options. In the greatest testament to how messed up the sport really is both boxers plan to fight in separate matches on Pay Per View on March 13.
How this happened is beyond the comprehension of anyone who hasn't ever spent a significant amount of time around boxings power brokers. The average person rightfully wonders why anyone would walk away from a $40 million pay day just because they don't want to take some random blood tests. That is what Pacquiao did.
You want to blame someone for killing the fight? Blame Pacquiao and his reps. Where else do you place the blame? You can scream that Mayweather didn't want the fight, but there wasn't anything to indicate that.
When Pacquiao and his reps included a potential deal breaking clause that would penalize Mayweather $10 million for every pound he was over the welterweight limit, he agreed to it. End of story. Mayweather was ready to sign the deal.
But Pacquiao became offended with Mayweather's clause that both fighters - and the important word here is "both" - agree to Olympic style drug testing, which included random urine and blood testing.
This was not a last minute clause that Mayweather came up with to try to scuttle the negotiations and get out of the fight. It was included in the initial proposal, as was Pacquiao's $10 million "fat" clause. But we didn't hear anything about this being a problem until Dec. 22 when word got out that the fight was in jeopardy.
Since then Pacquiao has waffled on just why he didn't want to take random blood tests and has even sued Mayweather and his camp for defamation.
In the current climate where every athlete who performs super human feats is under suspicion of being on performance enhancing drugs, the request for Pacquiao to take random drug tests is not so far fetched.
Mark McGwire's admission to using PEDs during his assault on one of the most hallowed records in baseball after years of denials makes Pacquiao's protests about being smeared by people's suspicions ring hollow.
To say that he has never tested positive for PEDs is not enough. Welterweight champion Shane Mosley has never tested positive for steroids in any of the urine tests that were administered by the Nevada and California boxing commissions. But he has admitted before a federal grand jury that he took a designer steroid called "the clear" and also used EPO.
Paquiao's promoter Bob Arum has been trying to bail on the fight for the last two weeks. He has consistently declared the fight dead, even as his stepson, Top Rank President Todd duBoef, was feverishly working with Golden Boy Promotions, the negotiators for Mayweather, to keep it alive. First Arum said he was going to put together a match between Pacquiao and Yuri Foreman, a newly minted 154-pound world champion who is also promoted by Arum.
Then this weekend he closed the deal for Pacquiao to fight welterweight Joshua Clottey, another boxer that he represents, at Cowboys Stadium on the March 13 date that had been set aside for Pacquiao-Mayweather.
This can't have been an easy negotiation for Arum. He was sitting opposite a pair of boxers that he groomed to become two of the biggest cash cows in the sport before they left him to ring up cash registers for themselves. That couldn't have been easy on Arum's ego. But I would hate to think that Arum undermined what was potentially the highest grossing boxing event in the sports history because of his dislike for De La Hoya, owner of Golden Boy Promotions, and Mayweather.
Strange things have happen in boxing, but not much stranger than the collapse of this fight that everyone was clamoring to see. In the end money wasn't enough to save it.
What we're left with is Pacquiao, a Filipino national hero, fighting Clottey, who hails from Brooklyn by way of Accra, Ghana in Africa, fighting deep in the heart of Texas. I could care less. And the sports world will shrug, because they don't know Joshua Clottey from Jacques Cousteau.
Cowboys Stadium would have been the perfect venue for Pacquiao-Mayweather because it is a sports event - the Super Bowl of boxing. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has booked boxing's version of a preseason game in Pacquiao-Clottey.
Too bad, because the time for Pacquiao-Mayweather is right now, not September or December. To use another bad football analogy, by failing to get Pacquiao-Mayweather done boxing has fumbled the ball on the goal line going in. If Pacquiao loses to Clottey, no one will care if he ever fights Mayweather.
Al bernstien on this whole matter..
Many things have been said and insinuated to make this look like a more complicated situation. But, none of them really hold water. Here are some facts.
Manny Pacquiao has never tested positive in a drug test.
Manny Pacquiao is one of the hardest working and most disciplined fighters in the sport.
Manny Pacquiao’s success as he moved up in weight has been fueled mostly by a change in style and tactics rather than added strength.
One of the most astonishing things to me is that fact number three keeps getting ignored by the folks who somehow believe that all of a sudden it’s reasonable to assume that Pacquiao above all other boxers needs a special set of testing rules to participate in a big fight. People who are supposed to know boxing are throwing out this most obvious truth in their argument that Team Mayweather’s smear campaign on Pacquiao is OK.
http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=19112
Many things have been said and insinuated to make this look like a more complicated situation. But, none of them really hold water. Here are some facts.
Manny Pacquiao has never tested positive in a drug test.
Manny Pacquiao is one of the hardest working and most disciplined fighters in the sport.
Manny Pacquiao’s success as he moved up in weight has been fueled mostly by a change in style and tactics rather than added strength.
One of the most astonishing things to me is that fact number three keeps getting ignored by the folks who somehow believe that all of a sudden it’s reasonable to assume that Pacquiao above all other boxers needs a special set of testing rules to participate in a big fight. People who are supposed to know boxing are throwing out this most obvious truth in their argument that Team Mayweather’s smear campaign on Pacquiao is OK.
http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=19112
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These dumb ass dudes don't care about that kind of stuff. (lol) Because Manny has accomplished something that "for now" makes HIM the P4P champion, the Mayweathers are at a loss. I believe they honestly thought people would rally behind their unsubstantiated assertion versus questioning Floyd's ability to actually compete at welterweight. It backfired....Floyd fans are the ONLY boxing fans who believe implying that another fighter is cheating without prove IS PROOF. True boxing fans are now watching him under a microscope and with greater scrutiny. It's time for Floyd to show he can demolish a true welterweight. If he can't do that, he needs to shut the fuck up and go back to the lightweight division and make his money. Right now, he's selling bullshit to stupid mofos.
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