I'm sorry to say it but, kobe is better than jordan!!
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Hmmmmm
Funny pic, the TRUTH isn't funny for those Laker fans that watched the entire game
PHOENIX (AP) -- The Phoenix Suns went from the brink to a blowout, from the edge of elimination to one of the most impressive turnarounds in NBA playoff history.
So much for the nail-biting suspense of a Game 7. The fast, feisty Suns won in a 121-90 laugher over the listless Los Angeles Lakers on Saturday night.
Leandro Barbosa led the layup parade with a career playoff-best 26 points on 10-of-12 shooting and the Suns became the eighth team in NBA history to win a series after trailing 3-1.
"I am going to steal a line from Disney and say it's a small world after all," Phoenix coach Mike D'Antoni said. "I guess small guys can play. That's about as good as we could play. Every one of our guys, I can't pick out one, all of them had an amazing game."
That all-L.A. second-round series that looked so probable a few days ago vanished in a blur of Suns' fast breaks and repeated drives to the basket.
Instead, the Clippers will come to Phoenix for Game 1 of the second-round series on Monday night.
"It's a shame we couldn't have given them a better game," said the Lakers' Phil Jackson, who lost a first-round series for the first time in his coaching career.
Kobe Bryant scored 24 points of 8-of-16=50% shooting, but the rest of the Lakers starters were 17-for-50 =34%. Bryant scored only one point and took just three shots in the second half.
"If we were going to get back in this type of game, we have to have everybody contributing," Bryant explained.
The Suns started the first quarter with a 16-6 run and ended it with a 12-2 spurt. They made 14 of 20 shots for 70 percent, while the Lakers were a bumbling 6-for-20.
With the Suns leading 20-13, Barbosa sank a 13-footer and a layup, then dished off to Marion for a stuff in an 8-0 surge that put Phoenix ahead 28-13 with 1:15 left in the first.
After Kwame Brown, who was 1-for-5 in the first quarter, made two free throws, Bell made a 20-footer and Barbosa two free throws to put Phoenix ahead 32-15 after one.
Barbosa's layup to start the second quarter made it 34-15. Bryant cut the lead to single digits, 45-36, with a 3-pointer 6:21 before halftime. But Bell followed with a 3, then Bryant was called for an offensive foul. Replays showed Bryant elbowed Bell to the face, the kind of play the Suns' guard had complained about throughout the series.
Tim Thomas' stuff with 5:32 remaining in the half put Phoenix ahead 50-36.
Bryant's 21-footer as the shot clock expired cut the lead to 50-40, but the Suns scored the next six with Diaw's two free throws making it 56-40 with 51 seconds to go.
Nash left the court with a slight limp after stepping on Marion's foot on the play but returned in the second half.
Bryant made a 3-pointer with 24 seconds remaining, then Diaw sank a 20-footer with 1.1 seconds to play and Phoenix led 60-45 at the break
You say he quit? Hmmmmmm
12:00 Start of the 3rd Quarter
11:37 45-60 Steve Nash misses 27-foot three point jumper
11:36 Luke Walton defensive rebound 45-60
11:15 Smush Parker misses two point shot 45-60
11:12 45-60 Steve Nash defensive rebound
11:03 45-62 Shawn Marion makes 17-foot jumper (Boris Diaw assists)
10:37 Luke Walton makes 25-foot three point jumper (Smush Parker assists) 48-62
10:29 48-65 Raja Bell makes 25-foot three point jumper (Boris Diaw assists)
10:17 Kwame Brown misses jumper 48-65
10:15 Smush Parker misses tip shot 48-65
10:15 Smush Parker offensive rebound 48-65
10:14 Kwame Brown misses tip shot 48-65
10:14 Kwame Brown offensive rebound 48-65
10:11 48-65 James Jones defensive rebound
10:03 Kwame Brown shooting foul (James Jones draws the foul) 48-65
10:03 48-66 James Jones makes free throw 1 of 2
10:03 Ronny Turiaf enters the game for Kwame Brown 48-66
10:03 48-67 James Jones makes free throw 2 of 2
9:47 Luke Walton misses layup 48-67
9:45 Lamar Odom misses tip shot 48-67
9:45 Lamar Odom offensive rebound 48-67
9:44 Ronny Turiaf makes layup 50-67
9:44 Ronny Turiaf offensive rebound 50-67
9:36 Ronny Turiaf personal foul (Boris Diaw draws the foul) 50-67
9:21 50-69 Boris Diaw makes two point shot (Steve Nash assists)
9:02 Luke Walton misses 14-foot jumper 50-69
9:00 50-69 Steve Nash defensive rebound
8:52 50-71 Raja Bell makes layup
3 minutes of team ball, the Laker "TEAM" is down by 21.
They were down by 15 at the half with Kobe over 50%.
Jacking it up would have netted the same result.
Tell the truth and shame the devil.
Jordan was a dick because he was the most competitive man in the NBA who also was the most talented. imagine having to deal with that on a TEAM sport. he forced his team to play to his level and helped them win. it wasn't Jordan alone that did it though, evident by Kerr and Paxson's game-winning shots that were passed to them by Jordan.
Kobe isn't in the gutter, but the way people keep comparing him to Jordan cause of the superficial stuff (height, position, game) while ignoring what made Jordan Jordan is where the problem arises. keep in mind, they invented a word 'Jordanesque' to describe what Mike did. Kobe isn't on that level.
Ignore the troll and it's left field rantings that have shit to do with shit. dude's pops got killed. he was under scrutiny for gambling. he was tired of it all. he needed a reset.
My issue with Kobe is have contrived he is. the whole last minute fly back from Denver during the trial so i can save the day shit was phoney. he wanted to be viewed as Superman flying in, caping the team. the Spike documentary proved how full of shit he was, trying hard to be the good, fun teammate, talking it up and having laugs. Radmonvic was surprised when Kobe was talking to him. it was all for the cameras.
what makes that game 7 against Phoenix so disgraceful was that the Lakers were up in the series 3-1. and then they got blown out in the final game. THE FINAL GAME! was the point (whatever it was) Kobe trying to make worth ending your season over? would Mike let that happen to his team?
in phil jackson's first Lakers book, he said that he thought that Kobe would dog it in his HS games so he could come in and save the day at crunch time. i still believe that shit.
everything Kobe does is about him and centered around people's perception of him just like ARod. Kobe and ARod are 2 of the biggest frauds in the game. and i'm a yankees fan!
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LordSinister,
2006 - 2007 Season - LeBron James
they were down 0-2 in the series and that ninja refused to let his team lose even if it meant doing ALL the heavy lifting himself. no one said he was selfish because we all could see he had to do it by himself. he willed his team to victory as he carried them ninjas on his shoulders.
that is a player.
i'm sure jordan was proud.
2006 - 2007 Season - LeBron James
they were down 0-2 in the series and that ninja refused to let his team lose even if it meant doing ALL the heavy lifting himself. no one said he was selfish because we all could see he had to do it by himself. he willed his team to victory as he carried them ninjas on his shoulders.
that is a player.
i'm sure jordan was proud.
dont you know? its kobes fault because he failed to get them going. he didnt give them confidence in the beginning, so they stunk it up the rest of the game. those players didnt want to play with kobe, so they performed horrible on purpose. I'm surprised you didnt know this already.
Hey Sinister, why even dwell on this topic (suns v lakers)? who won the championship last season? who got mvp? If people want to think it was all Gasols doing, let them. Everything you hear positive in the media about kobe is a lie. No one wants to play with him. No one thinks hes the best right now. They all just say it because David Stern told them too. All the announcers, they hate kobe. They dislike his game. They just say good things about him because they are supposed to. Off camera they hate him and think he is no better the sebastian telfair. I mean, at least thats what i heard.
Hey Sinister, why even dwell on this topic (suns v lakers)? who won the championship last season? who got mvp? If people want to think it was all Gasols doing, let them. Everything you hear positive in the media about kobe is a lie. No one wants to play with him. No one thinks hes the best right now. They all just say it because David Stern told them too. All the announcers, they hate kobe. They dislike his game. They just say good things about him because they are supposed to. Off camera they hate him and think he is no better the sebastian telfair. I mean, at least thats what i heard.
Hmmmmm
Funny pic, the TRUTH isn't funny for those Laker fans that watched the entire game
PHOENIX (AP) -- The Phoenix Suns went from the brink to a blowout, from the edge of elimination to one of the most impressive turnarounds in NBA playoff history.
So much for the nail-biting suspense of a Game 7. The fast, feisty Suns won in a 121-90 laugher over the listless Los Angeles Lakers on Saturday night.
Leandro Barbosa led the layup parade with a career playoff-best 26 points on 10-of-12 shooting and the Suns became the eighth team in NBA history to win a series after trailing 3-1.
"I am going to steal a line from Disney and say it's a small world after all," Phoenix coach Mike D'Antoni said. "I guess small guys can play. That's about as good as we could play. Every one of our guys, I can't pick out one, all of them had an amazing game."
That all-L.A. second-round series that looked so probable a few days ago vanished in a blur of Suns' fast breaks and repeated drives to the basket.
Instead, the Clippers will come to Phoenix for Game 1 of the second-round series on Monday night.
"It's a shame we couldn't have given them a better game," said the Lakers' Phil Jackson, who lost a first-round series for the first time in his coaching career.
Kobe Bryant scored 24 points of 8-of-16=50% shooting, but the rest of the Lakers starters were 17-for-50 =34%. Bryant scored only one point and took just three shots in the second half.
"If we were going to get back in this type of game, we have to have everybody contributing," Bryant explained.
The Suns started the first quarter with a 16-6 run and ended it with a 12-2 spurt. They made 14 of 20 shots for 70 percent, while the Lakers were a bumbling 6-for-20.
With the Suns leading 20-13, Barbosa sank a 13-footer and a layup, then dished off to Marion for a stuff in an 8-0 surge that put Phoenix ahead 28-13 with 1:15 left in the first.
After Kwame Brown, who was 1-for-5 in the first quarter, made two free throws, Bell made a 20-footer and Barbosa two free throws to put Phoenix ahead 32-15 after one.
Barbosa's layup to start the second quarter made it 34-15. Bryant cut the lead to single digits, 45-36, with a 3-pointer 6:21 before halftime. But Bell followed with a 3, then Bryant was called for an offensive foul. Replays showed Bryant elbowed Bell to the face, the kind of play the Suns' guard had complained about throughout the series.
Tim Thomas' stuff with 5:32 remaining in the half put Phoenix ahead 50-36.
Bryant's 21-footer as the shot clock expired cut the lead to 50-40, but the Suns scored the next six with Diaw's two free throws making it 56-40 with 51 seconds to go.
Nash left the court with a slight limp after stepping on Marion's foot on the play but returned in the second half.
Bryant made a 3-pointer with 24 seconds remaining, then Diaw sank a 20-footer with 1.1 seconds to play and Phoenix led 60-45 at the break
You say he quit? Hmmmmmm
12:00 Start of the 3rd Quarter
11:37 45-60 Steve Nash misses 27-foot three point jumper
11:36 Luke Walton defensive rebound 45-60
11:15 Smush Parker misses two point shot 45-60
11:12 45-60 Steve Nash defensive rebound
11:03 45-62 Shawn Marion makes 17-foot jumper (Boris Diaw assists)
10:37 Luke Walton makes 25-foot three point jumper (Smush Parker assists) 48-62
10:29 48-65 Raja Bell makes 25-foot three point jumper (Boris Diaw assists)
10:17 Kwame Brown misses jumper 48-65
10:15 Smush Parker misses tip shot 48-65
10:15 Smush Parker offensive rebound 48-65
10:14 Kwame Brown misses tip shot 48-65
10:14 Kwame Brown offensive rebound 48-65
10:11 48-65 James Jones defensive rebound
10:03 Kwame Brown shooting foul (James Jones draws the foul) 48-65
10:03 48-66 James Jones makes free throw 1 of 2
10:03 Ronny Turiaf enters the game for Kwame Brown 48-66
10:03 48-67 James Jones makes free throw 2 of 2
9:47 Luke Walton misses layup 48-67
9:45 Lamar Odom misses tip shot 48-67
9:45 Lamar Odom offensive rebound 48-67
9:44 Ronny Turiaf makes layup 50-67
9:44 Ronny Turiaf offensive rebound 50-67
9:36 Ronny Turiaf personal foul (Boris Diaw draws the foul) 50-67
9:21 50-69 Boris Diaw makes two point shot (Steve Nash assists)
9:02 Luke Walton misses 14-foot jumper 50-69
9:00 50-69 Steve Nash defensive rebound
8:52 50-71 Raja Bell makes layup
3 minutes of team ball, the Laker "TEAM" is down by 21.
They were down by 15 at the half with Kobe over 50%.
Jacking it up would have netted the same result.
Tell the truth and shame the devil.
Jordan was a dick because he was the most competitive man in the NBA who also was the most talented.
Same thing Kobe is now.
what makes that game 7 against Phoenix so disgraceful was that the Lakers were up in the series 3-1. and then they got blown out in the final game. THE FINAL GAME! was the point (whatever it was) Kobe trying to make worth ending your season over? would Mike let that happen to his team?
No.
Mike never took a 7th seed team against a 2 and go up 3-1
he was swept out of the playoffs
A Kobe LED team has never been swept out of the playoffs
This is the Truth, but I am still admitting Mike is better now
in phil jackson's first Lakers book, he said that he thought that Kobe would dog it in his HS games so he could come in and save the day at crunch time. i still believe that shit.
That's why Phil didn't ran back to coach him.
everything Kobe does is about him and centered around people's perception of him just like ARod. Kobe and ARod are 2 of the biggest frauds in the game. and i'm a yankees fan!
"Jordan even flew in his old high school teammate—who his high school coach chose over Jordan for the varsity basketball team—to his Hall of Fame speech just to make fun of him, and he even insulted Dean Smith for leaving him off the Sports Illustrated cover because he was a freshman." Excerpt from a MJ/Kobe article
LordSinister,
2006 - 2007 Season - LeBron James
they were down 0-2 in the series and that ninja refused to let his team lose even if it meant doing ALL the heavy lifting himself. no one said he was selfish because we all could see he had to do it by himself. he willed his team to victory as he carried them ninjas on his shoulders.
that is a player.
i'm sure jordan was proud.
yes, great move by Le Bronze, who refused to shake hands after he was swept out of the finals.
his Momma should be proud.
man, some teams (Dallas mavericks) quit when 1 guy goes nuclear on them (Kobe, Hott Lipps)
Some teams relish that. That outburst would not have worked against the suns. They would have kept scoring.
Re: jordan!!
again, why retreat to irrelevant REGULAR season games when we were discussing a specific playoff series?
the SERIES itself addressed the issue that the fakers CAN BE EFFECTIVE and WIN without tobe as the leading scorer, AND without chucking.
why not present direct evidence? it's the BEST.
retreating to the REGULAR SEASON is irrelevant.
here is a sterling example of why the regular season should not be compared to a PLAYOFF series.
1994-95, the san antonio spurs beat the houston rockets in the regular season 5-1.
what happened in the playoffs?
sam cassell stepped up for kenny smith and the rockets eliminated the spurs from the WCF 4-2.
don't try and substitute direct evidence for a playoff series with irrelevant information from the regular season.
This is quite relevant. this was the de-facto way the Lakers were playing. jacking the ball didn't work!! So your argument is based on he quit cause he didn't jack it up?That is beneath you.
I posted facts from the season to establish precedent.
again, why retreat to irrelevant REGULAR season games when we were discussing a specific playoff series?
the SERIES itself addressed the issue that the fakers CAN BE EFFECTIVE and WIN without tobe as the leading scorer, AND without chucking.
why not present direct evidence? it's the BEST.
retreating to the REGULAR SEASON is irrelevant.
here is a sterling example of why the regular season should not be compared to a PLAYOFF series.
1994-95, the san antonio spurs beat the houston rockets in the regular season 5-1.
what happened in the playoffs?
sam cassell stepped up for kenny smith and the rockets eliminated the spurs from the WCF 4-2.
don't try and substitute direct evidence for a playoff series with irrelevant information from the regular season.
jordan!!
wrong.
it wasn't until he got rid of the chucker head coach that he started to win.
you did it again. start off the paragraph talking about G7, but only 2 sentences later, you take yourself back to 3 irrelevant regular season games. why not just use G6 as an example.
is it because you don't want to talk about the series in context?
about how raja bell got into tobe's head? about how raja bell unhinged tobe and caused him to implode and derail the fakers' train?
G5 with nothing to lose, raja bell pulled the "dirty play" card and got into the fakers head. fakers pucker down the stretch, and lose G5, making the series 3-2.
G6 tobe abandons the PREVIOUSLY SUCCESSFUL game plan because his fragile ego needs to show how he can "impose his will" on a game. well he did, didn't he. instead of closing out the suns and taking care of TEAM business, he put his personal agenda ahead of all else jacking up 35 FGAs and earning the L. series tied 3-3. and we all know how that story ended.
correct.
and it shouldn't. are you suggesting otherwise?
because the reason michael jordan is considered among the best (if not the best) is not due to any singular scoring performance. so neither then, should tobe be considered near the best due to any singular scoring performance.
wrong.
it wasn't until he got rid of the chucker head coach that he started to win.
you did it again. start off the paragraph talking about G7, but only 2 sentences later, you take yourself back to 3 irrelevant regular season games. why not just use G6 as an example.
is it because you don't want to talk about the series in context?
about how raja bell got into tobe's head? about how raja bell unhinged tobe and caused him to implode and derail the fakers' train?
G5 with nothing to lose, raja bell pulled the "dirty play" card and got into the fakers head. fakers pucker down the stretch, and lose G5, making the series 3-2.
G6 tobe abandons the PREVIOUSLY SUCCESSFUL game plan because his fragile ego needs to show how he can "impose his will" on a game. well he did, didn't he. instead of closing out the suns and taking care of TEAM business, he put his personal agenda ahead of all else jacking up 35 FGAs and earning the L. series tied 3-3. and we all know how that story ended.
correct.
and it shouldn't. are you suggesting otherwise?
because the reason michael jordan is considered among the best (if not the best) is not due to any singular scoring performance. so neither then, should tobe be considered near the best due to any singular scoring performance.
cranrab, past is prolog. You should know this
The fact that they did change strategy and came away with 3 wins says a lot. It tells me the Kobe you hate was changing. That he wanted to win more than score.
Tim
I am a Laker fan. Kobe gets the limelight because of the nature of show biz. I would Pick Magic over all these ninjas to start my team.
Kobe packs the place, sells the jerseys and makes the machine money.
As long as he does, he will get the spotlight.
But, without D-Fish and Pau Kobe doesn't win a ring.
Just like without pippen and Grant/Rodman
Jordan doesn't either.
The fact that they did change strategy and came away with 3 wins says a lot. It tells me the Kobe you hate was changing. That he wanted to win more than score.
Tim
I am a Laker fan. Kobe gets the limelight because of the nature of show biz. I would Pick Magic over all these ninjas to start my team.
Kobe packs the place, sells the jerseys and makes the machine money.
As long as he does, he will get the spotlight.
But, without D-Fish and Pau Kobe doesn't win a ring.
Just like without pippen and Grant/Rodman
Jordan doesn't either.
not quoting it all, just hitting some points.
the Lebron Momma reference makes you sound like a certain Troll!
tossing irrelevant barbs!!!i love how you emphasis a KOBE LED Lakers! knowing full well that he has been swept on more than one occasion.
re:Jordan. i never met the man but i worked with dudes at Nike and Weiden/Kennedy who know Jordan real well. this is who Jordan is. he is the most competitive person you will meet. he bets 5K on balls and strikes in a baseball game. being that competitive makes you a dickhead because you carry around a huge chip on your shoulder. i felt by calling those people out, he was acknowledging them in a way for being the motivation behind making him so great. it's like a left-handed compliment.
i can tell from your posts that you are facing facts that your boy Kobe Bean isn't up to snuff with Michael Jeffery.
it's been fun. and i'm being for real.
Re: jordan!!
you sure i'm the one with the bias against the fakers?
you can sit up here with a straight face and suggest that?
i've been in NUMEROUS threads on BGOL discussing the strengths of jerry west, elgin baylor, earvin johnson, kareem abdul jabbar, jamaal wilkes, james worthy (and on and on) but i'm biased against the fakers?
does devotion to tobe completely remove reason from the brains of his fans?
but to answer your repetitive rhetorical question, YES. tobe should've put faith in those players and all those not mentioned. why? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT GOT THEM A 3-1 LEAD IN THE SERIES.
not stat-chasing, not chucking, not tobe's individual play. it was TEAM play that had earned the TEAM a 3-1 lead, and tobe squandered it because he's a fragile primadonna.
refute that FACT.
you sure i'm the one with the bias against the fakers?
you can sit up here with a straight face and suggest that?
i've been in NUMEROUS threads on BGOL discussing the strengths of jerry west, elgin baylor, earvin johnson, kareem abdul jabbar, jamaal wilkes, james worthy (and on and on) but i'm biased against the fakers?
does devotion to tobe completely remove reason from the brains of his fans?
but to answer your repetitive rhetorical question, YES. tobe should've put faith in those players and all those not mentioned. why? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT GOT THEM A 3-1 LEAD IN THE SERIES.
not stat-chasing, not chucking, not tobe's individual play. it was TEAM play that had earned the TEAM a 3-1 lead, and tobe squandered it because he's a fragile primadonna.
refute that FACT.
Re: jordan!!
So you admit jacking the pill doesn't win the series?
Good, when your team is shooting 34% and your jacking wont win.
You keep acting as if the kid is a scrub.
Like Detroit didn't get into the entire Bulls team head during the playoffs.
cuzz, stop with the idol worship.
wrong.
it wasn't until he got rid of the chucker head coach that he started to win.
Sooooo it's the coaches fault?
you did it again. start off the paragraph talking about G7, but only 2 sentences later, you take yourself back to 3 irrelevant regular season games. why not just use G6 as an example.
is it because you don't want to talk about the series in context?
about how raja bell got into tobe's head? about how raja bell unhinged tobe and caused him to implode and derail the fakers' train?
G5 with nothing to lose, raja bell pulled the "dirty play" card and got into the fakers head. fakers pucker down the stretch, and lose G5, making the series 3-2.
Yes, the team fails, yes, you're on the right track.
G6 tobe abandons the PREVIOUSLY SUCCESSFUL game plan because his fragile ego needs to show how he can "impose his will" on a game. well he did, didn't he. instead of closing out the suns and taking care of TEAM business, he put his personal agenda ahead of all else jacking up 35 FGAs and earning the L. series tied 3-3. and we all know how that story ended.
yes, his team reverts to form and they lose.
correct.
and it shouldn't. are you suggesting otherwise?
because the reason michael jordan is considered among the best (if not the best) is not due to any singular scoring performance. so neither then, should tobe be considered near the best due to any singular scoring performance.
So you admit jacking the pill doesn't win the series?
Good, when your team is shooting 34% and your jacking wont win.
You keep acting as if the kid is a scrub.
Like Detroit didn't get into the entire Bulls team head during the playoffs.
cuzz, stop with the idol worship.
I've addressed all of this in the very reply your replying to.
Geez, fam... Let me rephrase the statement, since you seem to have missed the gist of it: Every generation has a proverbial 'Michael Jordan' (transcendent icon who's tangible achievement are surpassed by their intangibles).
G1 through G4 were certainly looking that way.
and the cranrab you hate would've had to consider that tobe was capable of learning.
but he didn't disappoint. G6 and G7 proved that he wasn't capable of learning and confirmed what i'd known all along.
ask coach iavaroni. it was his idea. coach gentry can confirm it.
Re: jordan!!
admit it?
i've been saying that chucking isn't a winning formula. period. regardless of the chucker.
for YEARS on BGOL that has been a staple of the criticism. you're just NOW seeing that?
problem is you're saying it didn't work against phoenix IN THIS SERIES. i'm saying it's never a successful game plan for winning basketball.
admit it?
i've been saying that chucking isn't a winning formula. period. regardless of the chucker.
for YEARS on BGOL that has been a staple of the criticism. you're just NOW seeing that?
problem is you're saying it didn't work against phoenix IN THIS SERIES. i'm saying it's never a successful game plan for winning basketball.
understood, but you have to give people time to get over the fact that kobe won a ring after shaq. It hurts them inside. It ruined everything they stood for. You should have known people would start bringing up past situations to make him look bad. They know no better. They are bitter. Let them be.
Re: jordan!!
Exactly. In this series the regular season pointed this out. That is why I brought it up. Game 7, the rest of the Lakers didn't show up. 16 shots which were sufficient to beat them before ended in a Laker blowout loss.
You can't call him a quitter for taking the same amount of shots he took in a team win as a team loss. That's a bad argument.
Therefore, either he quit, or the team lost by your definition because 16 shots by "Tobe" is an acceptable amount for the team to win.
As far as "chucking goes"
I'm saying it works against certain teams.
It worked against the Dallas mavericks
Kobe did it, Wade did it. I always thought that they were the better match up for the lakers during those playoff. Dirk NoPiffski and the ponys bitch up under an onslaught.
Exactly. In this series the regular season pointed this out. That is why I brought it up. Game 7, the rest of the Lakers didn't show up. 16 shots which were sufficient to beat them before ended in a Laker blowout loss.
You can't call him a quitter for taking the same amount of shots he took in a team win as a team loss. That's a bad argument.
Therefore, either he quit, or the team lost by your definition because 16 shots by "Tobe" is an acceptable amount for the team to win.
As far as "chucking goes"
I'm saying it works against certain teams.
It worked against the Dallas mavericks
Kobe did it, Wade did it. I always thought that they were the better match up for the lakers during those playoff. Dirk NoPiffski and the ponys bitch up under an onslaught.
not quoting it all, just hitting some points.
the Lebron Momma reference makes you sound like a certain Troll!
BGOL is talking shit and posting pics.
i love how you emphasis a KOBE LED Lakers! knowing full well that he has been swept on more than one occasion.
re:Jordan. i never met the man but i worked with dudes at Nike and Weiden/Kennedy who know Jordan real well. this is who Jordan is. he is the most competitive person you will meet. he bets 5K on balls and strikes in a baseball game. being that competitive makes you a dickhead because you carry around a huge chip on your shoulder. i felt by calling those people out, he was acknowledging them in a way for being the motivation behind making him so great. it's like a left-handed compliment.
i can tell from your posts that you are facing facts that your boy Kobe Bean isn't up to snuff with Michael Jeffery.
it's been fun. and i'm being for real.
LordSinister from page 2 of this thread!! said:
I'm just having fun with rab at this point. I dare him to say 1 good thing about Kobe.
Re: jordan!!
Well at least its good to know you think about your own and not just Kobe's........
Yeah, stay off my dick.
Well at least its good to know you think about your own and not just Kobe's........
jordan has a lot of records kobe doesn't have and Kobe has a lot of records that jordan doesn't have. Kobe most 3's in a game, 81 points and 3 game winners, yes game winners in 29days beat that jordan. Not to mention kobe's averaging 33points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists and 2 steals a game. that nigga's a beast. all this with a broken finger!!!
Re: jordan!!
again?
take a moment and re-read that sentence.
the correct sentence would say "in this series G1 through G4 pointed this out."
you could further point out how G1 through G4 were all competitive, with no margin of victory more than 7 points.
you could further point out that when tobe let his emotions get the better of him, he tossed the game plan out the window and then the margins of victory were never less than 12 points.
i'll give you time to re-read what you wrote.
because what you wrote is EXACTLY the problem in reasoning that tobe stans and fakers fans have. read the underlined sentences and you'll see why you've constructed a PISS POOR (or tobe like) argument.
if you need an assist, scroll down for a hint:
G4, tobe had 14 FGAs in 38.5 minutes and a fakers W. think pace. think rationing.
G7, tobe had 13 FGAs in THE FIRST HALF.
so you really want to compare the 2? you really think those are congruent because the numbers are similar?
again?
take a moment and re-read that sentence.
the correct sentence would say "in this series G1 through G4 pointed this out."
you could further point out how G1 through G4 were all competitive, with no margin of victory more than 7 points.
you could further point out that when tobe let his emotions get the better of him, he tossed the game plan out the window and then the margins of victory were never less than 12 points.
i'll give you time to re-read what you wrote.
because what you wrote is EXACTLY the problem in reasoning that tobe stans and fakers fans have. read the underlined sentences and you'll see why you've constructed a PISS POOR (or tobe like) argument.
if you need an assist, scroll down for a hint:
G4, tobe had 14 FGAs in 38.5 minutes and a fakers W. think pace. think rationing.
G7, tobe had 13 FGAs in THE FIRST HALF.
so you really want to compare the 2? you really think those are congruent because the numbers are similar?
jordan!!
happy?
he lives in a nice community.I dare him to say 1 good thing about Kobe.
happy?
jordan!!
or some drugs to stop the hallucinations.
can anyone post a single time when i (for example) ever said tobe couldn't win a ring without shaquille o'neal?
i ALWAYS knew ronnie lester could find a legit franchise player whose coat tails tobe could ride on.
or some drugs to stop the hallucinations.
can anyone post a single time when i (for example) ever said tobe couldn't win a ring without shaquille o'neal?
i ALWAYS knew ronnie lester could find a legit franchise player whose coat tails tobe could ride on.
Re: jordan!!
What did his teamates start the game shooting?
What was the deficit before he started jacking?
Though so.
Team wins happen when there is a team. The only Laker I haven't mentioned is Mr. Kardasian.
he gets a pass for being thrust into the role of Pippen, when that's not his game.
Also, if you have so much revernce for Wilt, West, Kareem, Magic, use the name correctly. Right now the name is WORLD CHAMPION LOS ANGELES LAKERS!!
The funny thing is you're blaming Kobe for the 4 losses and giving no credit for the 3 wins. Shit is pathetic Rab. Who hit the game winner when they were down in that series? Who led the team in assists that series?
G4, tobe had 14 FGAs in 38.5 minutes and a fakers W. think pace. think rationing.
G7, tobe had 13 FGAs in THE FIRST HALF.
so you really want to compare the 2? you really think those are congruent because the numbers are similar?
What did his teamates start the game shooting?
What was the deficit before he started jacking?
Though so.
Team wins happen when there is a team. The only Laker I haven't mentioned is Mr. Kardasian.
he gets a pass for being thrust into the role of Pippen, when that's not his game.
Also, if you have so much revernce for Wilt, West, Kareem, Magic, use the name correctly. Right now the name is WORLD CHAMPION LOS ANGELES LAKERS!!
The funny thing is you're blaming Kobe for the 4 losses and giving no credit for the 3 wins. Shit is pathetic Rab. Who hit the game winner when they were down in that series? Who led the team in assists that series?
Here is the Game that Kobe Chucked his team out of the playoffs. Please decide for yourselves the truth.
12:00 Jumpball: Kwame Brown vs. Shawn Marion (Smush Parker gains possession) 0-0
11:37 Kwame Brown misses 7-foot hook shot 0-0
11:36 0-0 Shawn Marion defensive rebound
11:23 0-2 Shawn Marion makes 11-foot jumper (Boris Diaw assists)
11:03 Luke Walton misses 9-foot two point shot 0-2
11:00 0-2 Boris Diaw defensive rebound
10:52 0-2 Shawn Marion misses 18-foot jumper
10:51 Kobe Bryant defensive rebound 0-2
10:41 James Jones blocks Luke Walton's 8-foot jumper 0-2
10:38 0-2 Steve Nash defensive rebound
10:33 0-2 Boris Diaw misses layup
10:33 0-4 Shawn Marion makes tip shot
10:33 0-4 Shawn Marion offensive rebound
10:07 Kobe Bryant makes 17-foot two point shot 2-4
9:44 2-6 Steve Nash makes 5-foot jumper
9:29 Kwame Brown makes layup 4-6
9:15 Kwame Brown personal foul (Boris Diaw draws the foul) 4-6
9:08 4-6 James Jones misses 19-foot jumper
9:07 Kwame Brown defensive rebound 4-6
8:55 Luke Walton makes dunk (Kwame Brown assists) 6-6
8:45 6-9 Steve Nash makes 25-foot three point jumper
8:22 Kwame Brown bad pass 6-9
8:06 6-11 Boris Diaw makes layup (Steve Nash assists)
7:52 Smush Parker misses 18-foot jumper 6-11
7:50 6-11 James Jones defensive rebound
7:39 6-13 Steve Nash makes 18-foot jumper
7:24 Lamar Odom misses 8-foot jumper 6-13
7:22 6-13 Shawn Marion defensive rebound
7:15 6-16 James Jones makes 25-foot three point jumper (Steve Nash assists)
7:09 Los Angeles full timeout
7:01 Luke Walton bad pass (Boris Diaw steals) 6-16
6:45 6-16 Steve Nash misses layup
6:43 Kwame Brown defensive rebound 6-16
6:22 Kwame Brown misses 9-foot jumper 6-16
6:22 Los Angeles defensive rebound 6-16
6:09 6-16 Steve Nash bad pass
5:50 Kobe Bryant misses 28-foot three point jumper 6-16
5:48 Smush Parker offensive rebound 6-16
5:37 Lamar Odom makes 9-foot two point shot 8-16
5:28 8-16 Steve Nash bad pass (Smush Parker steals)
5:24 Smush Parker makes dunk 10-16
5:07 10-18 Boris Diaw makes 17-foot jumper
4:56 Smush Parker misses 25-foot three point jumper 10-18
4:54 10-18 Shawn Marion defensive rebound
4:47 10-18 Shawn Marion misses 17-foot jumper
4:45 Luke Walton defensive rebound 10-18
4:33 10-18 Raja Bell shooting foul (Kobe Bryant draws the foul)
4:33 10-18 Tim Thomas enters the game for James Jones
4:33 10-18 Leandro Barbosa enters the game for Boris Diaw
4:33 Kobe Bryant misses free throw 1 of 2 10-18
4:33 Los Angeles offensive rebound 10-18
4:33 Kobe Bryant makes free throw 2 of 2 11-18
4:22 11-20 Tim Thomas makes dunk (Steve Nash assists)
3:58 Kobe Bryant makes 8-foot jumper 13-20
3:36 13-22 Leandro Barbosa makes 13-foot jumper
3:09 Lamar Odom misses 27-foot three point jumper 13-22
3:06 13-22 Tim Thomas defensive rebound
3:03 13-22 Steve Nash bad pass (Smush Parker steals)
3:00 Smush Parker bad pass (Shawn Marion steals) 13-22
2:56 13-24 Tim Thomas makes layup (Shawn Marion assists)
2:38 13-24 Raja Bell jump ball
2:38 Phoenix full timeout
2:26 Shawn Marion blocks Lamar Odom's 8-foot jumper 13-24
2:24 13-24 Shawn Marion defensive rebound
2:23 13-26 Leandro Barbosa makes layup (Shawn Marion assists)
2:00 Kobe Bryant misses 21-foot jumper 13-26
1:58 13-26 Raja Bell defensive rebound
1:52 13-26 Tim Thomas misses 24-foot three point jumper
1:47 Luke Walton defensive rebound 13-26
1:38 Kwame Brown misses hook shot 13-26
1:35 13-26 Tim Thomas defensive rebound
1:15 13-28 Shawn Marion makes dunk (Leandro Barbosa assists)
1:00 13-28 Leandro Barbosa shooting foul (Kwame Brown draws the foul)
1:00 Devean George enters the game for Luke Walton 13-28
1:00 Kwame Brown makes free throw 1 of 2 14-28
1:00 Kwame Brown makes free throw 2 of 2 15-28
0:48 Smush Parker personal foul (Steve Nash draws the foul) 15-28
0:42 15-30 Raja Bell makes 21-foot jumper (Steve Nash assists)
0:27 Kwame Brown misses 7-foot hook shot 15-30
0:24 15-30 Tim Thomas defensive rebound
0:21 Devean George shooting foul (Leandro Barbosa draws the foul) 15-30
0:21 15-31 Leandro Barbosa makes free throw 1 of 2
0:21 Brian Cook enters the game for Kwame Brown 15-31
0:21 15-32 Leandro Barbosa makes free throw 2 of 2
0:01 Smush Parker misses 25-foot three point jumper 15-32
0:00 Los Angeles defensive rebound 15-32
0:00 End of the 1st Quarter
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2nd Quarter Summary
TIME LOS ANGELES SCORE PHOENIX
12:00 Start of the 2nd Quarter
11:41 15-34 Leandro Barbosa makes driving layup
11:22 Brian Cook misses 24-foot three point jumper 15-34
11:19 15-34 Leandro Barbosa defensive rebound
11:15 15-34 Eddie House misses 18-foot jumper
11:11 Kobe Bryant defensive rebound 15-34
10:53 Brian Cook makes driving layup 17-34
10:33 17-34 Boris Diaw misses 7-foot two point shot
10:30 Kobe Bryant defensive rebound 17-34
10:25 Kobe Bryant makes 8-foot two point shot 19-34
10:18 19-36 Leandro Barbosa makes driving layup
9:56 Brian Cook misses layup 19-36
9:53 Brian Cook offensive rebound 19-36
9:52 Brian Cook makes layup 21-36
9:41 21-38 Leandro Barbosa makes driving layup
9:22 Kobe Bryant makes 25-foot three point jumper 24-38
9:08 24-38 Leandro Barbosa misses layup
9:07 Sasha Vujacic defensive rebound 24-38
9:03 Devean George misses 23-foot three point jumper 24-38
9:00 24-38 Boris Diaw defensive rebound
8:55 Lamar Odom shooting foul (Leandro Barbosa draws the foul) 24-38
8:55 24-38 Official timeout
8:55 24-38 Tim Thomas technical foul (1st technical foul)
8:55 Kobe Bryant makes technical free throw 25-38
8:55 25-39 Leandro Barbosa makes free throw 1 of 3
8:55 25-40 Leandro Barbosa makes free throw 2 of 3
8:55 25-41 Leandro Barbosa makes free throw 3 of 3
8:45 Lamar Odom misses layup 25-41
8:44 25-41 Boris Diaw defensive rebound
8:38 25-41 Shawn Marion misses layup
8:37 Lamar Odom defensive rebound 25-41
8:27 Lamar Odom makes driving layup 27-41
8:11 27-41 Kobe Bryant blocks Raja Bell's 26-foot three point jumper
8:08 Devean George defensive rebound 27-41
8:00 Brian Cook makes jumper (Kobe Bryant assists) 29-41
7:41 29-43 Boris Diaw makes driving layup
7:28 Kobe Bryant makes 25-foot three point jumper 32-43
7:16 Brian Cook personal foul (Boris Diaw draws the foul) 32-43
7:16 32-43 Tim Thomas enters the game for Shawn Marion
7:16 32-43 Steve Nash enters the game for Eddie House
7:16 Smush Parker enters the game for Sasha Vujacic 32-43
7:05 32-45 Steve Nash makes 12-foot jumper
6:56 Kobe Bryant bad pass (Raja Bell steals) 32-45
6:43 32-45 Steve Nash misses 25-foot three point jumper
6:41 Brian Cook defensive rebound 32-45
6:33 32-45 Boris Diaw illegal defense foul (1st personal foul)
6:33 Kobe Bryant makes technical free throw 33-45
6:33 Sasha Vujacic enters the game for Devean George 33-45
6:20 Kobe Bryant makes 30-foot three point jumper 36-45
5:58 36-48 Raja Bell makes 25-foot three point jumper (Steve Nash assists)
5:47 Kobe Bryant offensive foul (Raja Bell draws the foul) 36-48
5:47 Kobe Bryant turnover 36-48
5:47 Phoenix full timeout
5:47 Kwame Brown enters the game for Lamar Odom 36-48
5:47 Luke Walton enters the game for Brian Cook 36-48
5:31 36-50 Tim Thomas makes two point shot (Boris Diaw assists)
5:13 Kobe Bryant misses 18-foot two point shot 36-50
5:09 36-50 Tim Thomas defensive rebound
5:03 36-50 Leandro Barbosa lost ball (Sasha Vujacic steals)
4:48 Kobe Bryant misses 26-foot three point jumper 36-50
4:47 36-50 Raja Bell defensive rebound
4:30 36-50 Steve Nash misses layup
4:28 Sasha Vujacic defensive rebound 36-50
4:16 Smush Parker offensive foul (Leandro Barbosa draws the foul) 36-50
4:16 Smush Parker turnover 36-50
4:01 36-50 Boris Diaw misses 11-foot jumper
4:00 Luke Walton defensive rebound 36-50
3:48 36-50 Tim Thomas shooting foul (Kwame Brown draws the foul)
3:48 Kwame Brown makes free throw 1 of 2 37-50
3:48 Lamar Odom enters the game for Sasha Vujacic 37-50
3:48 37-50 Shawn Marion enters the game for Leandro Barbosa
3:48 Kwame Brown makes free throw 2 of 2 38-50
3:26 38-50 Steve Nash misses 25-foot three point jumper
3:24 Smush Parker defensive rebound 38-50
3:14 Smush Parker misses 24-foot three point jumper 38-50
3:12 38-50 Shawn Marion defensive rebound
3:08 38-50 Steve Nash lost ball (Smush Parker steals)
2:56 Lamar Odom misses 25-foot three point jumper 38-50
2:54 38-50 Shawn Marion defensive rebound
2:47 38-50 Raja Bell misses 27-foot three point jumper
2:46 Kwame Brown defensive rebound 38-50
2:41 Los Angeles full timeout
2:29 38-50 Shawn Marion personal foul (Kwame Brown draws the foul)
2:14 Kobe Bryant makes 21-foot jumper (Smush Parker assists) 40-50
1:58 40-52 Shawn Marion makes layup (Boris Diaw assists)
1:38 Luke Walton misses 9-foot jumper 40-52
1:35 Kwame Brown misses tip shot 40-52
1:35 Kwame Brown offensive rebound 40-52
1:32 40-52 Boris Diaw defensive rebound
1:31 40-52 Lamar Odom blocks Shawn Marion's layup
1:31 40-52 Phoenix offensive rebound
1:20 40-54 Tim Thomas makes 18-foot jumper
0:58 Kobe Bryant misses 20-foot jumper 40-54
0:56 40-54 Steve Nash defensive rebound
0:51 Luke Walton shooting foul (Boris Diaw draws the foul) 40-54
0:51 40-55 Boris Diaw makes free throw 1 of 2
0:51 40-55 Leandro Barbosa enters the game for Steve Nash
0:51 40-56 Boris Diaw makes free throw 2 of 2
0:40 Smush Parker makes driving layup 42-56
0:35 42-58 Boris Diaw makes 7-foot two point shot
0:24 Kobe Bryant makes 26-foot three point jumper (Lamar Odom assists) 45-58
0:01 45-60 Boris Diaw makes 20-foot jumper (Tim Thomas assists)
0:00 Lamar Odom misses 67-foot three point jumper 45-60
0:00 End of the 2nd Quarter
0:00 Los Angeles offensive rebound 45-60
12:00 Jumpball: Kwame Brown vs. Shawn Marion (Smush Parker gains possession) 0-0
11:37 Kwame Brown misses 7-foot hook shot 0-0
11:36 0-0 Shawn Marion defensive rebound
11:23 0-2 Shawn Marion makes 11-foot jumper (Boris Diaw assists)
11:03 Luke Walton misses 9-foot two point shot 0-2
11:00 0-2 Boris Diaw defensive rebound
10:52 0-2 Shawn Marion misses 18-foot jumper
10:51 Kobe Bryant defensive rebound 0-2
10:41 James Jones blocks Luke Walton's 8-foot jumper 0-2
10:38 0-2 Steve Nash defensive rebound
10:33 0-2 Boris Diaw misses layup
10:33 0-4 Shawn Marion makes tip shot
10:33 0-4 Shawn Marion offensive rebound
10:07 Kobe Bryant makes 17-foot two point shot 2-4
9:44 2-6 Steve Nash makes 5-foot jumper
9:29 Kwame Brown makes layup 4-6
9:15 Kwame Brown personal foul (Boris Diaw draws the foul) 4-6
9:08 4-6 James Jones misses 19-foot jumper
9:07 Kwame Brown defensive rebound 4-6
8:55 Luke Walton makes dunk (Kwame Brown assists) 6-6
8:45 6-9 Steve Nash makes 25-foot three point jumper
8:22 Kwame Brown bad pass 6-9
8:06 6-11 Boris Diaw makes layup (Steve Nash assists)
7:52 Smush Parker misses 18-foot jumper 6-11
7:50 6-11 James Jones defensive rebound
7:39 6-13 Steve Nash makes 18-foot jumper
7:24 Lamar Odom misses 8-foot jumper 6-13
7:22 6-13 Shawn Marion defensive rebound
7:15 6-16 James Jones makes 25-foot three point jumper (Steve Nash assists)
7:09 Los Angeles full timeout
7:01 Luke Walton bad pass (Boris Diaw steals) 6-16
6:45 6-16 Steve Nash misses layup
6:43 Kwame Brown defensive rebound 6-16
6:22 Kwame Brown misses 9-foot jumper 6-16
6:22 Los Angeles defensive rebound 6-16
6:09 6-16 Steve Nash bad pass
5:50 Kobe Bryant misses 28-foot three point jumper 6-16
5:48 Smush Parker offensive rebound 6-16
5:37 Lamar Odom makes 9-foot two point shot 8-16
5:28 8-16 Steve Nash bad pass (Smush Parker steals)
5:24 Smush Parker makes dunk 10-16
5:07 10-18 Boris Diaw makes 17-foot jumper
4:56 Smush Parker misses 25-foot three point jumper 10-18
4:54 10-18 Shawn Marion defensive rebound
4:47 10-18 Shawn Marion misses 17-foot jumper
4:45 Luke Walton defensive rebound 10-18
4:33 10-18 Raja Bell shooting foul (Kobe Bryant draws the foul)
4:33 10-18 Tim Thomas enters the game for James Jones
4:33 10-18 Leandro Barbosa enters the game for Boris Diaw
4:33 Kobe Bryant misses free throw 1 of 2 10-18
4:33 Los Angeles offensive rebound 10-18
4:33 Kobe Bryant makes free throw 2 of 2 11-18
4:22 11-20 Tim Thomas makes dunk (Steve Nash assists)
3:58 Kobe Bryant makes 8-foot jumper 13-20
3:36 13-22 Leandro Barbosa makes 13-foot jumper
3:09 Lamar Odom misses 27-foot three point jumper 13-22
3:06 13-22 Tim Thomas defensive rebound
3:03 13-22 Steve Nash bad pass (Smush Parker steals)
3:00 Smush Parker bad pass (Shawn Marion steals) 13-22
2:56 13-24 Tim Thomas makes layup (Shawn Marion assists)
2:38 13-24 Raja Bell jump ball
2:38 Phoenix full timeout
2:26 Shawn Marion blocks Lamar Odom's 8-foot jumper 13-24
2:24 13-24 Shawn Marion defensive rebound
2:23 13-26 Leandro Barbosa makes layup (Shawn Marion assists)
2:00 Kobe Bryant misses 21-foot jumper 13-26
1:58 13-26 Raja Bell defensive rebound
1:52 13-26 Tim Thomas misses 24-foot three point jumper
1:47 Luke Walton defensive rebound 13-26
1:38 Kwame Brown misses hook shot 13-26
1:35 13-26 Tim Thomas defensive rebound
1:15 13-28 Shawn Marion makes dunk (Leandro Barbosa assists)
1:00 13-28 Leandro Barbosa shooting foul (Kwame Brown draws the foul)
1:00 Devean George enters the game for Luke Walton 13-28
1:00 Kwame Brown makes free throw 1 of 2 14-28
1:00 Kwame Brown makes free throw 2 of 2 15-28
0:48 Smush Parker personal foul (Steve Nash draws the foul) 15-28
0:42 15-30 Raja Bell makes 21-foot jumper (Steve Nash assists)
0:27 Kwame Brown misses 7-foot hook shot 15-30
0:24 15-30 Tim Thomas defensive rebound
0:21 Devean George shooting foul (Leandro Barbosa draws the foul) 15-30
0:21 15-31 Leandro Barbosa makes free throw 1 of 2
0:21 Brian Cook enters the game for Kwame Brown 15-31
0:21 15-32 Leandro Barbosa makes free throw 2 of 2
0:01 Smush Parker misses 25-foot three point jumper 15-32
0:00 Los Angeles defensive rebound 15-32
0:00 End of the 1st Quarter
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2nd Quarter Summary
TIME LOS ANGELES SCORE PHOENIX
12:00 Start of the 2nd Quarter
11:41 15-34 Leandro Barbosa makes driving layup
11:22 Brian Cook misses 24-foot three point jumper 15-34
11:19 15-34 Leandro Barbosa defensive rebound
11:15 15-34 Eddie House misses 18-foot jumper
11:11 Kobe Bryant defensive rebound 15-34
10:53 Brian Cook makes driving layup 17-34
10:33 17-34 Boris Diaw misses 7-foot two point shot
10:30 Kobe Bryant defensive rebound 17-34
10:25 Kobe Bryant makes 8-foot two point shot 19-34
10:18 19-36 Leandro Barbosa makes driving layup
9:56 Brian Cook misses layup 19-36
9:53 Brian Cook offensive rebound 19-36
9:52 Brian Cook makes layup 21-36
9:41 21-38 Leandro Barbosa makes driving layup
9:22 Kobe Bryant makes 25-foot three point jumper 24-38
9:08 24-38 Leandro Barbosa misses layup
9:07 Sasha Vujacic defensive rebound 24-38
9:03 Devean George misses 23-foot three point jumper 24-38
9:00 24-38 Boris Diaw defensive rebound
8:55 Lamar Odom shooting foul (Leandro Barbosa draws the foul) 24-38
8:55 24-38 Official timeout
8:55 24-38 Tim Thomas technical foul (1st technical foul)
8:55 Kobe Bryant makes technical free throw 25-38
8:55 25-39 Leandro Barbosa makes free throw 1 of 3
8:55 25-40 Leandro Barbosa makes free throw 2 of 3
8:55 25-41 Leandro Barbosa makes free throw 3 of 3
8:45 Lamar Odom misses layup 25-41
8:44 25-41 Boris Diaw defensive rebound
8:38 25-41 Shawn Marion misses layup
8:37 Lamar Odom defensive rebound 25-41
8:27 Lamar Odom makes driving layup 27-41
8:11 27-41 Kobe Bryant blocks Raja Bell's 26-foot three point jumper
8:08 Devean George defensive rebound 27-41
8:00 Brian Cook makes jumper (Kobe Bryant assists) 29-41
7:41 29-43 Boris Diaw makes driving layup
7:28 Kobe Bryant makes 25-foot three point jumper 32-43
7:16 Brian Cook personal foul (Boris Diaw draws the foul) 32-43
7:16 32-43 Tim Thomas enters the game for Shawn Marion
7:16 32-43 Steve Nash enters the game for Eddie House
7:16 Smush Parker enters the game for Sasha Vujacic 32-43
7:05 32-45 Steve Nash makes 12-foot jumper
6:56 Kobe Bryant bad pass (Raja Bell steals) 32-45
6:43 32-45 Steve Nash misses 25-foot three point jumper
6:41 Brian Cook defensive rebound 32-45
6:33 32-45 Boris Diaw illegal defense foul (1st personal foul)
6:33 Kobe Bryant makes technical free throw 33-45
6:33 Sasha Vujacic enters the game for Devean George 33-45
6:20 Kobe Bryant makes 30-foot three point jumper 36-45
5:58 36-48 Raja Bell makes 25-foot three point jumper (Steve Nash assists)
5:47 Kobe Bryant offensive foul (Raja Bell draws the foul) 36-48
5:47 Kobe Bryant turnover 36-48
5:47 Phoenix full timeout
5:47 Kwame Brown enters the game for Lamar Odom 36-48
5:47 Luke Walton enters the game for Brian Cook 36-48
5:31 36-50 Tim Thomas makes two point shot (Boris Diaw assists)
5:13 Kobe Bryant misses 18-foot two point shot 36-50
5:09 36-50 Tim Thomas defensive rebound
5:03 36-50 Leandro Barbosa lost ball (Sasha Vujacic steals)
4:48 Kobe Bryant misses 26-foot three point jumper 36-50
4:47 36-50 Raja Bell defensive rebound
4:30 36-50 Steve Nash misses layup
4:28 Sasha Vujacic defensive rebound 36-50
4:16 Smush Parker offensive foul (Leandro Barbosa draws the foul) 36-50
4:16 Smush Parker turnover 36-50
4:01 36-50 Boris Diaw misses 11-foot jumper
4:00 Luke Walton defensive rebound 36-50
3:48 36-50 Tim Thomas shooting foul (Kwame Brown draws the foul)
3:48 Kwame Brown makes free throw 1 of 2 37-50
3:48 Lamar Odom enters the game for Sasha Vujacic 37-50
3:48 37-50 Shawn Marion enters the game for Leandro Barbosa
3:48 Kwame Brown makes free throw 2 of 2 38-50
3:26 38-50 Steve Nash misses 25-foot three point jumper
3:24 Smush Parker defensive rebound 38-50
3:14 Smush Parker misses 24-foot three point jumper 38-50
3:12 38-50 Shawn Marion defensive rebound
3:08 38-50 Steve Nash lost ball (Smush Parker steals)
2:56 Lamar Odom misses 25-foot three point jumper 38-50
2:54 38-50 Shawn Marion defensive rebound
2:47 38-50 Raja Bell misses 27-foot three point jumper
2:46 Kwame Brown defensive rebound 38-50
2:41 Los Angeles full timeout
2:29 38-50 Shawn Marion personal foul (Kwame Brown draws the foul)
2:14 Kobe Bryant makes 21-foot jumper (Smush Parker assists) 40-50
1:58 40-52 Shawn Marion makes layup (Boris Diaw assists)
1:38 Luke Walton misses 9-foot jumper 40-52
1:35 Kwame Brown misses tip shot 40-52
1:35 Kwame Brown offensive rebound 40-52
1:32 40-52 Boris Diaw defensive rebound
1:31 40-52 Lamar Odom blocks Shawn Marion's layup
1:31 40-52 Phoenix offensive rebound
1:20 40-54 Tim Thomas makes 18-foot jumper
0:58 Kobe Bryant misses 20-foot jumper 40-54
0:56 40-54 Steve Nash defensive rebound
0:51 Luke Walton shooting foul (Boris Diaw draws the foul) 40-54
0:51 40-55 Boris Diaw makes free throw 1 of 2
0:51 40-55 Leandro Barbosa enters the game for Steve Nash
0:51 40-56 Boris Diaw makes free throw 2 of 2
0:40 Smush Parker makes driving layup 42-56
0:35 42-58 Boris Diaw makes 7-foot two point shot
0:24 Kobe Bryant makes 26-foot three point jumper (Lamar Odom assists) 45-58
0:01 45-60 Boris Diaw makes 20-foot jumper (Tim Thomas assists)
0:00 Lamar Odom misses 67-foot three point jumper 45-60
0:00 End of the 2nd Quarter
0:00 Los Angeles offensive rebound 45-60
Re: jordan!!
michael jordan doesn't have a house. he has/had a compound.
kendall gill has/had 1 very similar to michael jordan's.
but upkeep on those is a bitch.
cost nearly $1M a year just to maintain with staff, etc.
michael jordan doesn't have a house. he has/had a compound.
kendall gill has/had 1 very similar to michael jordan's.
but upkeep on those is a bitch.
cost nearly $1M a year just to maintain with staff, etc.
Re: jordan!!
the exact same that it was at half time. 15.
you have said previously in this thread that the game was "unwinnable". at what point did you believe that?
a 15 point deficit to the phoenix suns? the 3rd WORST team for points allowed and 15 point margin is "unwinnable"?
sure.
who unilaterally decided to stray from the game plan? the whole team? or a selfish chucker trying to save face for being rag-dolled by raja bell?
lamar odom doesn't get a pass on the merit of his play?
i guess when lamar odom scored 21 on 53.3% shooting and grabbed 14 rebounds in G1 while tobe was hurling bricks going 7-21 FGAs, he should've told the press afterwards that he "just needed some help."
or maybe he should've said something after G2, when he scored 21 on 75% shooting and grabbed 7 rebounds and 5 assists taking HALF as many FGAs as tobe.
sure, that kind of efficiency doesn't earn a pass.
but tobe gets a pass for G3, where he again shot only 33.3% (like he did in G1), while "WNBA" player william parker outscored tobe and shot better (56.3%), and luke walton tied tobe in scoring (also shooting better at 42.1%) and added 10 rebounds.
so while you consistently mock and belittle their performances, they were quietly putting in work to carry tobe. of course, all they earn from fakers fans is scorn.
you mentioned a game winning shot, but how did the fakers get that possession?
thought so.
the exact same that it was at half time. 15.
you have said previously in this thread that the game was "unwinnable". at what point did you believe that?
a 15 point deficit to the phoenix suns? the 3rd WORST team for points allowed and 15 point margin is "unwinnable"?
sure.
who unilaterally decided to stray from the game plan? the whole team? or a selfish chucker trying to save face for being rag-dolled by raja bell?
lamar odom doesn't get a pass on the merit of his play?
i guess when lamar odom scored 21 on 53.3% shooting and grabbed 14 rebounds in G1 while tobe was hurling bricks going 7-21 FGAs, he should've told the press afterwards that he "just needed some help."
or maybe he should've said something after G2, when he scored 21 on 75% shooting and grabbed 7 rebounds and 5 assists taking HALF as many FGAs as tobe.
sure, that kind of efficiency doesn't earn a pass.
but tobe gets a pass for G3, where he again shot only 33.3% (like he did in G1), while "WNBA" player william parker outscored tobe and shot better (56.3%), and luke walton tied tobe in scoring (also shooting better at 42.1%) and added 10 rebounds.
so while you consistently mock and belittle their performances, they were quietly putting in work to carry tobe. of course, all they earn from fakers fans is scorn.
you mentioned a game winning shot, but how did the fakers get that possession?
thought so.
LordSinister... is it that serious bruh? breakin shit down play by play?
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