I'm sorry to say it but, kobe is better than jordan!!

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MJ Career FG% .497

Kobe Career FG% .456


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Dude its career FG% which means its pretty much always going to stay around the same average after 13 years of playing..and dude said Kobe was a way better shooter, and I was showing that they're pretty much the same..........and as far as Kobe closing the gap historically the number goes down after not up and Kobe hasn't shot over .470 for his whole career.....and Jordan shot over .495 8 times in his career......AND If Jordan wouldn't have played those last 2 years with Washington his would have been even higher :dunno:



C'mon now. Let's not let a pesky thing like stats get in the way. The important thing here is to remember to state your case sheerly on emotion, not stats. Maybe if the Kobe stans say he's better than Jordan 50 times a day, it'll come true. Just keep saying it fellas.
 
yea yea, bring the haters in....this nigga kobe is unbelievable! Clutch factor is right up there with jordan's. He hit 3 game winners within the last month. If he get's another ring this year it's really official that he's better than jordan. Haterz what y'all got to say, people make a million threads when they lose, but hate when they win...i Love it....KOBE :lol::lol: oh yea not to mention, he's averaging 40 a nite these last past games with a broken finger. and puts 20 on niggas with his left hand!!! what can u say really???

OBVIOUSLY A GENIUS
 
No you sound stupid.listen. this dude is the fn truth.ya'll sit here and say hes young ,well iam 36 and i know that the rate kobe is going he will be better .may not now .but you have to say this...kobe dropped 55 on jordan and dropPed 38 at the half .what more can u say tHis dude will be better than mike and remember this, kobe is doing this to a nba with about 70% talented athletes on these teams.when jordan was doing it,there was only 1 or two good stars on the team. p.s the washinton bullets use to hand chicago there own ass all the time so the kings have talent ,don't let the name kings make you say ,they have no talent,cause they are a very good team.
 
:lol::lol: :smh::smh::smh: I didnt know that...dude was a machine even at damn near 40 and playing out of position

Jordan had no business coming back. He still took his usual 22 shots a game, but his shooting percentage hit a career low of 41.6% (in the Iverson and Kidd range). He was a shadow of himself, even if if some big scoring games disguised it occasionally. He also retarded the progress of the team.
 
You Must Ani't Never Heard Of The Jordan Rules ,doN'T Pass Jordan The Ball.dude Ya'll Talking And Don't Know What Your Talking About Mike Was The Biggest Ball Hogger There Was ,then He Begain To Mature ,and Pass The Ball ...wow People Fear What They Don't Understand..
 
man them niggaz ain't playin nobody. niggaz back in the day had nicknames.............the dream, magic, iceman, the glyde, the glove, the mailman, the human fuckin highlight reel! man get the fuck outta here wit that shit. :lol: propz to the new school. but the old school is where itz at.
 
Yeah But Who Was In The Nba That Had Talent Like Him No One .do You See The Talent In The Nba Now? Are You Serious.......KOBE IS KILLING DEM BOYZ.......
 
No you sound stupid.listen. this dude is the fn truth.ya'll sit here and say hes young ,well iam 36 and i know that the rate kobe is going he will be better .may not now .but you have to say this...kobe dropped 55 on jordan and dropPed 38 at the half .what more can u say tHis dude will be better than mike and remember this, kobe is doing this to a nba with about 70% talented athletes on these teams.when jordan was doing it,there was only 1 or two good stars on the team. p.s the washinton bullets use to hand chicago there own ass all the time so the kings have talent ,don't let the name kings make you say ,they have no talent,cause they are a very good team.

you are the dumbest 36 yr old in existence.
 
No you sound stupid.listen. this dude is the fn truth.ya'll sit here and say hes young ,well iam 36 and i know that the rate kobe is going he will be better .may not now .but you have to say this...kobe dropped 55 on jordan and dropPed 38 at the half .what more can u say tHis dude will be better than mike and remember this, kobe is doing this to a nba with about 70% talented athletes on these teams.when jordan was doing it,there was only 1 or two good stars on the team. p.s the washinton bullets use to hand chicago there own ass all the time so the kings have talent ,don't let the name kings make you say ,they have no talent,cause they are a very good team.
you are the dumbest 36 yr old in existence.
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Im starting to wonder if some of these cats even own TV's.
 
And Kobe isn't no chump. Dude relishes the tough play- he just feels if he's getting knocked around they better call it when it's a foul

When has Kobe ever faced punishing defense as an NY, Detroit, or Zo's Miami??? :confused:
 
kobe is good, but he's no Jordan.

1.) the league has a lot less talent due to expansion and early entries than ever before. look at the East. a sub .500 team can make the playoffs. jordan never played with so many kids in the league. the separation between the good teams and bad teams theses past years has never been so apparent.

2.) kobe has WAY more talent on his team than Jordan ever had. Kobe's 3rd best player is a toss up between Artest and Bynum. the 3rd best teammate Jordan ever had was Rodman who was a defensive and rebounding force but a huge liability offensively.

3.) when Jordan played, you can handcheck. the Knicks and Pistons BEAT jordan up. literally, as soon as he crossed halfcourt, hands were on him. despite this, Jordan averaged 30+. imagined if he played with today's rules? 40+ a game is a reality.

4.) kobe has ALWAYS had a dominant big man inside to open up the outside for him. someone mentioned it earlier, Longely, King, Wennington, Perdue. even with Pippen on the wing, the Bulls were a perimeter team making it harder on their offense.

5.) the Bulls management. if Krause and Resindorf weren't dickheads, the Bulls woulda won 3 more championships.

6.) Kobe almost got traded TWICE! first time, the Bulls wouldn't give up Luol Deng. the 2nd time Kobe didn't want to get traded to Chicago if Deng was included in the deal to go to LA. never ever heard the mention of trading Jordan because there was no such thing as equal trade value for him.

7.) Jordan's retirement. if he never retired those 2 times and just kept playing, he would have most of the records in the league. plausible to think he coulda had close to 10 rings.

kobe is good. but he ain't jordan good.

100% on point.
 
oh wow another is jordan the greatest ever post. let me read each and every word in here then make some silly comment and then go start another 2pac thread. . .
 
AND If Jordan wouldn't have played those last 2 years with Washington his would have been even higher :dunno:

I always remind kats of this. He shot a little over 50% CAREER with the Bulls. Shooting guards ain't doing that over a season.
 
Jordan had no business coming back. He still took his usual 22 shots a game, but his shooting percentage hit a career low of 41.6% (in the Iverson and Kidd range). He was a shadow of himself, even if if some big scoring games disguised it occasionally. He also retarded the progress of the team.

Agreed. The perfect ending to his career was the shot to win the title in game 6 in Utah.

Lots of players have that problem... like Magic should have never come back out of retirement..
 
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Jordan is better than Kobe will ever be.

Jordan holds the highest all time career scoring average.

Jordan came into the league as the best scoring weapon, Kobe developed into the best offensive player after several years. Dominique Wilkins was the only player who could come close to matching Jordan's offense during the time, even as a rookie.

Jordan led his team to 6 titles(6 Playoff MVPs), Kobe was on 3 championship teams and led his team to 1 title(1 playoff MVP)

Jordan has 5 MVP's, Kobe has 1 NBA MVP

Jordan has 10 scoring titles, Kobe only has 2(AI has more than him, and Lebron will end up with more)

Jordan played against or defeated a team with at least one top 50 player in every championship or playoff run. Kobe has never led his team in the playoffs against a Top 50 all time player. He played on a team, but never led the team. Maybe Tim Duncan!!!!

Had Jordan not retired, he would have easily won 8 straight championships.

Jordan played in a hand checking era, Kobe played in a no hand checking era.

Jordan averaged more points, assists, rebounds, and steals in playoff games for his career.

Someone please show me a guard that ever shot over 50% for a career, other than Jordan?

Kobe is no doubt the best player since Jordan, but can never surpass Jordan. When he is the playoff MVP 7 times and/or has 11 scoring titles and/or gets 6 NBA MVP's, after sitting out 2 seasons, then a Jordan/Kobe comparison will be valid. Until then, Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the only player you can statistically compare to Michael Jordan as far being the best player ever. Why are people even having this argument before 2016? Kobe has a long way to go!
 
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Yeah But Who Was In The Nba That Had Talent Like Him No One .do You See The Talent In The Nba Now? Are You Serious.......KOBE IS KILLING DEM BOYZ.......

:yes::yes:, right Dwayne wade, lebron james, carmelo anothony and kobe bryant could of easily been jordan back in the day Jordan was the first of his kind, its like wilt back in the day. Now You got a lot of talent on every team
 
:yes::yes:, right Dwayne wade, lebron james, carmelo anothony and kobe bryant could of easily been jordan back in the day Jordan was the first of his kind, its like wilt back in the day. Now You got a lot of talent on every team

Ok....it's now time to put you on ignore.
 
Well, Kobe has added a new dimension to his post up game and is shooting about 49%. So he's actually increased his shooting percentage as he got older.

Kobe also shoots more three's (Making a higher percentage) but that drags down his percentage. Stats show that per-shot, they average about the same, it's just the extra 3 point shots that drag Kobe down.

To sum it up, Jordan was more consistent, Kobe more streaky.

That being said, the 81 point game, plus other things I've seen Kobe do, have never been done before.

Kobe's degree of difficulty in some of the shots he taken are harder than the shit they do at Cirque Du Soleil. That is probably why some of the youngsters say he's better. I personally have watched cuzz his entire career. He's 1 of the best I've seen, but not the best I have.

I have to give it to Jordan by about 5%.

But, if he does what he's doing now for 3 more years he will have earned the top spot. That's just how I see it.

3 more years of shitting on the league as he gets older will do it for me.

3 more off-seasons of raping the greats for their moves.

3 more seasons of being the toughest.

2 more rings
 
put jordan on da lakers team now n we r talkin somethin like 10 championships. put kobe on da bulls teams n i will give u two at da most. kobe is da best now, n hes great but jordan is da GOAT
 
How the fuck can you compare a nigga with 1 playoff mvp, 1 league MVP, and 2 scoring titles to Jordan? This nigga has been in the league 13 years already!
 
put jordan on da lakers team now n we r talkin somethin like 10 championships. put kobe on da bulls teams n i will give u two at da most. kobe is da best now, n hes great but jordan is da GOAT

How stupid can you be to make some kind of assumption like this.

:hmm:
 
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