I'm sorry to say it but, kobe is better than jordan!!

[sirwoodz]

Yep, Jordan was the most unselfish player we've ever seen in the NBA.

- nah, i won't say Kobe is at JORDAN status, but he is close...also, he IS more selfish than MJ was (partially b/c he has more garbage players) - but he STILL won a championship so

 

[Winky Wright]

Like what? Well besides quit on teams, demand trades, get blown out by record amounts in playoffs, lose in title series, play second fiddle on 3 of his title teams whiel failing to win finals mvp...

Seriously guys, lets just let the guy be himself and appreciate his talent without comparing him to MJ.

of course 81 pts, NBA single game 3-pt record, 60 pts in 3 qrts, thru 3 quarters Kobe 62 Dallas Mavs 61 (Mavs went to finals that year),left handed 3-pointer, left handed everything, 61 in the Garden, start all-star game at 19, 4 titles by age 30, 50 pts in 4 straight games, i'm sure there is more stuff.

& all this by 31. 2 more all-nba 1st team d's he ties Jordan as well. Scored more points than Jordan by 31 too (ok that's a cheap one).

 

[alexw]

of course 81 pts, NBA single game 3-pt record, 60 pts in 3 qrts, thru 3 quarters Kobe 62 Dallas Mavs 61 (Mavs went to finals that year),left handed 3-pointer, left handed everything, 61 in the Garden, start all-star game at 19, 4 titles by age 30, 50 pts in 4 straight games, i'm sure there is more stuff.

& all this by 31. 2 more all-nba 1st team d's he ties Jordan as well. Scored more points than Jordan by 31 too (ok that's a cheap one).

those stats are incredible but remember jordan went to college, broke his foot and was out for a season and he retired during his prime( olajuwon should send him thank you cards yearly)

 

[Spectrum]

of course 81 pts, NBA single game 3-pt record, 60 pts in 3 qrts, thru 3 quarters Kobe 62 Dallas Mavs 61 (Mavs went to finals that year),left handed 3-pointer, left handed everything, 61 in the Garden, start all-star game at 19, 4 titles by age 30, 50 pts in 4 straight games, i'm sure there is more stuff.

& all this by 31. 2 more all-nba 1st team d's he ties Jordan as well. Scored more points than Jordan by 31 too (ok that's a cheap one).

that is a very short weak list. Now do you want to see the list of all the things Jordan has done that Kobe hasnt....going to take you a long ass time to read it because there is not even a comparison brah..not even a comparison statistically or in terms of who holds more records..and more meaningfull records..compare things like scoring titles, defensive players of the years, rookie of year,titles, league mvps, finals mvps, all defensive teams, scoring average, rebounding average, steals, better T.O. ratio, MUCH higher playoff scoring average, finals scoring average, etc etc... aint even a comparison..and it shows your lack of basketball history to even try to make this comparison..now if you go overall to encapsulat the entire spectrum, Jordan literally owns 100s of more records than Kobe... look it up..

 

[Spectrum]

of course 81 pts, NBA single game 3-pt record, 60 pts in 3 qrts, thru 3 quarters Kobe 62 Dallas Mavs 61 (Mavs went to finals that year),left handed 3-pointer, left handed everything, 61 in the Garden, start all-star game at 19, 4 titles by age 30, 50 pts in 4 straight games, i'm sure there is more stuff.

& all this by 31. 2 more all-nba 1st team d's he ties Jordan as well. Scored more points than Jordan by 31 too (ok that's a cheap one).

Let me help you out just to put this in perspective..

Record: scoring average NBA Finals
41.0
(1993) Record: Regular Season Career Scoring average
30.1 Points per game in Playoffs, career average
33.4
Record: NBA Scoring Titles
10
(1987-93, 1996-98)
Record: Consecutive NBA Scoring Titles
7
(1987-93) Record: most points in a playoff game
63
(against Boston on May 20, 1986, first round) Record: most Finals MVP
6
(1991-93, 1996-98) Record: All-Defensive First Team
9
(1988-93, 1996-98)
Record: total points, playoffs, career
5,987 Record: Field Goals Attempted, playoffs
4,497 Record: Free Throws Made, playoffs
1,463 Record: Consecutive games with 10 or more points
866
Record: Slam Dunk Contest Titles


NBA 50th Anniversary All-Time Team (1996)

Member of six NBA championship teams (1991-93, 1996-98)

Five-time NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 1991-92, 1996, 1998)

Six-time NBA Finals Most Valuable Player (1991-93, 1996-98)

Ten-time All-NBA First Team (1987-93, 1996-98)

All-NBA Second team (1985)

Nine-time NBA All-Defensive First Team (1987-93, 1996-98)

NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1988)

NBA Rookie of the Year (1985)

NBA All-Rookie Team (1985)

Two-time IBM Award winner, for all-around contribution to team's success (1985, 1989)

Three-time NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998)

Participated in 11 NBA All-Star Games (1985, 1987-1993, 1996-98), starting 10 times, and missed another due to injury

Holds the NBA All-Star Game career record for highest scoring average (21.3 ppg)

Recorded only triple-double in All-Star Game history, with 14 points, 11 rebounds and 11 assists, in the 1997 NBA All-Star Game in Cleveland

Won the Nestle Crunch Slam Dunk in 1987 and 1988, also participating in 1985

Passed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to become the NBA's all-time leading playoff scorer (5,762 points) during the 1998 Eastern Conference Finals

Passed Dennis Johnson into fourth place on the NBA's all-time playoff assists list (1,006), in an 88-83 victory over the Indiana Pacers in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals in 1997-98

Scored his 29,000th career point, posting a game-high 41 points, 6 rebounds and 4 assists, in a 107-93 win over the Minnesota Timberwolves on 4/3

Broke Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's NBA record by scoring in double-digits for the 788th consecutive game, scoring a game-high 33 points, against the Minnesota Timberwolves on 12/30/97

Scored a career-high 69 points in a 117-113 overtime win at Cleveland on 3/28/90

Chicago Bulls all-time leader in scoring (29,277 points), assists (5,012) and steals (2,306)

Holds the NBA record for most seasons leading league in scoring -- 10; highest points per game average (minimum 400 games or 10,000 points) -- 31.5; most seasons leading league in field goals made -- 10; and most seasons leading league in field goals attempted -- 10

Shares the NBA career record for most seasons with 2,000 or more points -- 11; and most consecutive seasons leading league in scoring --7 (1986-87 through 1992-93)

Holds single-game records for most free throws made in one half -- 20 (December 30, 1992, at Miami); and most free-throws attempted in one half -- 23 (December 30, 1992, at Miami)

Shares single-game records for most free throws made in one quarter -- 14 (December 30, 1992, at Miami); and most free-throws attempted in one quarter -- 16 (December 30, 1992, at Miami)

Holds the NBA Finals record for highest single-series scoring average -- 41.0 ppg (1993)

Holds NBA Finals record for most three-point field goals made -- 42; and most consecutive games with 20 or more points -- 35 (June 2, 1991-June 14, 1998)

Holds the NBA Finals single-game record for most points in one half -- 35 (June 3, 1992 vs. Portland)

Shares NBA Finals single-game records for most field goals made in one half -- 14; and most three-point field goals made in one half -- 6 (June 3, 1992, vs. Portland); most free throws made in one quarter -- 9 (June 11, 1997 vs. Utah); and most free throws attempted in one half -- 15 (June 4, 1997, vs. Utah)

Holds the NBA Playoffs record for most points -- 5,987; highest points-per-game average (minimum 25 games or 625 points) -- 33.4 ppg; most field goals attempted -- 4,497; most free throws made -- 1,463; most free throws attempted -- 1,766; and most steals -- 376

Scored a career playoff-high 63 points against the Boston Celtics on 4/20/86, setting an NBA record for most points in a playoff game

Holds single-game playoff records for most free throws made in one quarter -- 13; and most free throws attempted in one quarter -- 14 (May 21, 1991, vs. Detroit)

Shares single-game playoff records for most field goals made -- 24 (May 1, 1998, vs. Cleveland); most field goals attempted in one half -- 25 (May 1, 1988, vs. Cleveland); and most three-point field goals made in one half -- 6 (June 6, 1992, vs. Portland)

Recorded two playoff career triple-doubles, both against the New York Knicks (May 9, 1989 and June 2, 1993)

Notched 28th career triple-doubles, the last being a 30 point, 11 rebound and 10 assist effort against the Toronto Raptors on 4/14/97

Member of the gold-medal-winning U.S. Olympic team (1984, 1992)

As a freshman at the University of North Carolina, hit the game-winning shot in the 1982 NCAA Championship game

Named College Player of the Year by The Sporting News in both 1983 and 1984 and won the Naismith and Wooden Awards in 1984



Achievements
Plaque chronicling the career achievements of Jordan at the United Center.

* Scored in double-digits in all but one of 1,109 games as a Chicago Bull (8 points on March 25, 1986 vs. the Cleveland Cavaliers)
* Scored 20 or more points in 1,099 games (926 regular season, 173 postseason)
* Scored 30 or more points in 671 games (562 regular season, 109 postseason)
* Scored 40 or more points in 211 games (173 regular season, 38 postseason)
* Scored 50 or more points in 39 games (31 regular season, 8 postseason)
* Scored 60 or more points in 5 games (4 regular season, 1 postseason)
* Recorded 31 triple-doubles (28 regular season, 2 postseason, 1 All-Star Game)
* Recorded 240 double-doubles (201 regular season, 39 postseason)
* 11-time regular season leader, total points (1984-85, 1986-93, 1995-98)
* 10-time regular season leader, scoring average (1986-93, 1995-98)
* 3-time regular season leader, steals (1987-88, 1989-90, 1992-93)

[edit] NBA Finals

Jordan played in six NBA Finals for a total of 35 games.

* 6-time NBA champion (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98)
* scored 40 or more points in six games, and 50 or more in one game
* averaged 33.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, and 6.0 apg
* 6-time Finals MVP (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98)

Holds NBA Finals records for:

* Finals MVP honors (6)

* named MVP in each Finals appearance

* scoring average, single-series (41.0 ppg)

* set in the 1993 NBA Finals vs. the Phoenix Suns

* consecutive games, 20 or more points (35, June 2, 1991-June 14, 1998)
* only player to score 20 or more points in all games, career (min. 15 games)

* Jordan scored at least 20 in all 35 of his Finals performances

* consecutive games, 40 or more points (4, June 11-18, 1993)
* points, one half (35)

* set in 1st half vs. the Portland Trail Blazers, June 3, 1992

* field goals made, one half (14)

* did so twice; vs. Portland, June 3, 1992 and vs. Phoenix, June 16, 1993
* shared with Isiah Thomas

* consecutive field goals made (13)

* set vs. the Los Angeles Lakers on June 5, 1991

* free throws made, quarter (9)

* shared with Frank Ramsey

* three point field goals made, one half (6)

* set vs. the Portland Trail Blazers, June 3, 1992
* shared with Kenny Smith

* scoring 30 or more points in all games of series

* set in the 1993 NBA Finals vs. the Phoenix Suns
* shared with Elgin Baylor, Rick Barry, Hakeem Olajuwon and Shaquille O'Neal

* points, 6-game series (246)

* set in the 1993 NBA Finals vs. the Phoenix Suns

* field goals made, 6-game series (101)

* set in the 1993 NBA Finals vs. the Phoenix Suns

* steals, 5-game series (14)

* set in the 1991 NBA Finals vs. the Los Angeles Lakers

* highest assists average not by a point guard, single-series (11.4 apg)

* set in the 1991 NBA Finals vs. the Los Angeles Lakers

Rank among NBA Finals leaders in other stats:

* 2nd, points, game (55 vs. Phoenix Suns, June 16, 1993)
* 2nd, points, one half (33 in 1st half vs. the Phoenix Suns, June 16, 1993)

* shared with Elgin Baylor

* 2nd, three point field goals made, career (42)
* 2nd, field goals made, 5-game series (63)
* 3rd, points, career (1,176)
* 3rd, three point field goals attempted, career (114)
* 4th, steals, career (62)
* 5th, field goals made, career (438)
* 6th, total assists, career (209)
* 6th, free throws made, career (258)
* 7th, field goals attempted, career (901)
* 8th, free throws attempted, career (320)

[edit] Playoffs

Holds NBA Playoff Records for:

* points per game average, career (33.45)
* points, career (5,987)
* points, single postseason (759, 1992)

* also ranks 5th (680, 1998) and 6th (666, 1993)

* 50 point games (8)
* 40 point games (38)
* 30 point games (109)
* 20 point games (174)
* consecutive games, 15 or more points (179)

* scored 15 points or more in every career playoff game

* consecutive games, 20 or more points (60)

* June 2, 1989 - May 11, 1993

* points in a game (63)

* set vs. the Boston Celtics, April 20, 1986
* averaged 43.7 ppg, 5.7 apg, and 6.3 rpg for the three games series against the Boston Celtics

* points in a 3-game series (135)

* set in the 1992 First Round vs. the Miami Heat

* points in a 5-game series (226)

* set in the 1988 First Round vs. the Cleveland Cavaliers

* field goals attempted, career (4,497)
* field goals made per game, career (12.2)
* field goals made in a game (24)

* set vs. Cleveland Cavaliers on May 1, 1988
* shared with Wilt Chamberlain and John Havlicek

* field goals attempted, half (25)

* set vs. Cleveland Cavaliers on May 1, 1988
* shared with Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor

* field goals made in a 3-game series (53)

* set in the 1992 First Round vs. the Miami Heat

* field goals made in a 5-game series (86)

* set in the 1988 First Round vs. the Cleveland Cavaliers

* field goals made in a 6-game series (101)

* set in 1993 NBA Finals vs. the Phoenix Suns

* consecutive field goals made (13)

* set vs. the Los Angeles Lakers on June 5, 1991

* free throws made, career (1,463)
* free throws made, quarter (13)
* blocks by a guard, career (158)
* free throws made per game, rookie (12.0)
* free throws attempted per game, rookie (14.5)

Rank among NBA Playoff leaders in other stats:

* 2nd, free throws attempted (1,766)
* 2nd, field goals made, career (2,188)
* 2nd, steals, career (376)

* Scottie Pippen is the all-time leader with 395

* 2nd, field goals made, single postseason (290, 1992)

* also holds the 6th (251, 1993), 7th (243, 1998), and 10th (227, 1997) highest

* 2nd, field goals attempted, single postseason (581, 1992)

* also holds the 4th (528, 1993), 5th (526, 1998), and 8th (498, 1997) highest

* 2nd, points, 3-game series (131)

* set in the 1986 First Round against the Boston Celtics

* 2nd, points, 4-game series (147)

* set in the 1990 First Round against the Milwaukee Bucks

* 2nd, points, 5-game series (215)

* set in the 1990 Conference Semifinals against the Philadelphia 76ers

* 2nd, points, 6-game series (246)

* set in the 1993 NBA Finals against the Phoenix Suns

* 2nd, rebounds by a guard, career (1,152)

* Magic Johnson is the all-time leader with 1,465

* 3rd, free throws made, single postseason (183, 1989)

* also holds the 4th highest with 181 in 1998

* 4th, points per game average, rookie (29.2)

* Following Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (35.2), Wilt Chamberlain (33.2), and George Mikan (30.3)

* 4th, steals per game average, rookie (2.8)

* shared with Andre Iguodala

* 5th, assists per game average, rookie (8.5)
* 5th, assists, career (1,022)
* 6th, free throw attempts, single postseason (229, 1989)

* also holds the 8th highest with 223 in 1998

* 7th, three point field goals attempted, career (446)
* 7th, minutes played, career (7,474)
* 9th, three point field goals made, career (148)

Other:

* only player to record back-to-back 50 point games

* Set in Games 1 and 2 of 1988 First Round against the Cleveland Cavaliers (April 28 May 1, 1988)

* recorded two playoff career triple-doubles

* both against the New York Knicks (May 9, 1989 and June 2, 1993)

[edit] All-Star Game

* selected 14 times (1985-93, 1996-98, 2002-03)

* started in 13 of the 14 years, including rookie season, and missed one due to injury (1986)

* 3-time All-Star MVP (1988, 1996, 1998)

Holds NBA All-Star Game records for:

* points, career (262)
* field goals made, career (110)
* field goals made, game (17)

* shared with Wilt Chamberlain and Kevin Garnett

* field goals attempted, career (233)
* field goals attempted, game (27)

* shared with Rick Barry

* steals, career (37)
* blocked shots, half (4)

Rank among NBA All-Star Game leaders in other stats:

* 2nd, selections (14)

* behind Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (16)

* 2nd, points, game (40)

* finished with 40 points on 73.9% shooting, 8 rebounds, 3 assists (1988, in Chicago)

* 3rd, scoring average (20.2)
* 3rd, minutes, career (382)

Other:

* recorded the only All-Star Game triple-double (14 points, 11 rebounds, and 11 assists in 1997, in Cleveland)

[edit] Regular season

Holds NBA regular season records for:

* All-Defensive First Team honors (9)

* shared with Gary Payton

* Player Efficiency Rating, career (27.91)
* points per game average, career (30.12)
* consecutive games scoring in double-digits (866)
* seasons leading the league in points per game average (10)
* consecutive seasons leading the league in points per game average (7, 1986-87 through 1992-93)

* shared with Wilt Chamberlain
* Appears on the All-time top 100 list of most points per game in a season a record 9 times.

* seasons leading the league in total points (11)

* Appears on the All-time top 100 list of most points in a season a record 11 times.

* seasons leading the league in field goals made (10)
* consecutive seasons leading the league in field goals made (7)

* shared with Wilt Chamberlain

* seasons leading the league in field goals attempted (9)
* seasons leading the league in steals per game (3)
* highest Game Score on record

* 64.6 at the Cleveland Cavaliers on March 28, 1990

* free throws made, one half

* 20, against the Miami Heat on December 30, 1992

* free throws attempted, one half

* 23, against the Miami Heat on December 30, 1992

* free throws made, one quarter (shared)

* 14, against the Utah Jazz on November 15, 1989, and against the Miami Heat on December 30, 1992

* free throws attempted, one quarter (shared)

* 16, against the Miami Heat on December 30, 1992

* steals, one half (8)

* shared with 11 players

* oldest player to score 50 points in one game (51 points, 7 rebounds, aged 38 years, 315 days)

* against the New Orleans Hornets, December 29, 2001

* oldest player and only player at age 40 or older to score 40 points in one game (43 points, 10 rebounds)

* against the New Jersey Nets, February 21, 2003
* scored 40 or more points 3 times, in his final year
* scored 30 or more points 9 times, in his final year
* scored 20 or more points 42 times, in his final year

* blocked shots by a guard, season (131, 1987-88)
* blocked shots by a guard, career (893)

Rank among NBA Regular season leaders in other stats:

* 2nd, MVP honors (5)

* Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was voted MVP six times

* 2nd, seasons with 2,000 or more points (11)

* Karl Malone holds the record with 12

* 2nd, seasons leading the league in steals (3; 1987-88, 1989-90, 1992-93)
* 2nd, steals, career (2,514)
* 2nd, consecutive points scored in a game

* 23 against the Atlanta Hawks on April 16, 1987; finished with 61 points
* Manu Ginobili scored 24 straight on February 22, 2007

* 2nd, consecutive triple-doubles (7)[16]

* shared with Oscar Robertson
* recorded a triple-double in ten games over an eleven game stretch, March 24 April 14, 1989
* fell just short in the one game, (which would have allowed for eleven consecutive triple-doubles) with a double-double effort of 40 points, 11 assists and 7 rebounds.
* Wilt Chamberlain had 9 straight

* 3rd, 60 point games (4)
* 2nd, 50 point games (31)
* 2nd, 40 point games (173)
* 2nd, 30 point games (561)
* 3rd, consecutive games scoring 20 or more points (72, December 29, 1987-December 6, 1988)

* two longest streaks set by Wilt Chamberlain
* Jordan also registered a streak of 69 consecutive games scoring 20 or more points during the 1990-91 season.

* 3rd, consecutive games scoring 40 or more points (9, November 28-December 12, 1986)

* two longest streaks set by Wilt Chamberlain

* 3rd, total points, career (32,292)
* 3rd, points in a season (3,041, 1986-87)

* first two held by Wilt Chamberlain
* Jordan appears on this All-Time NBA Top 100 list a record 11 times

* 3rd, field goals attempted, career (24,537)
* 3rd, free throws made in a season (833, 1986-87)

* Behind Jerry West (840, '66) and Wilt Chamberlain (835, '62)
* Jordan is also the 10th All-Time leader for most free throws in a season (723, '88)
* appears on this All-Time top 100 list a total of 6 times

* 4th, consecutive games (shared) scoring 40 or more points (9, 1986-87)

* three longest streaks set by Wilt Chamberlain
* Jordan in fact scored 40 or more points in 11 of 12 games during this period.

* 4th, steals per game, career (2.35)
* 4th, field goals made, career (12,192)
* 4th, free throws made, career (7,327)
* 6th, field goals made, season (1,098, in 1986-87)

* First 4 are held by Wilt Chamberlain, 5th by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
* Jordan appears on this top 100 list a total an NBA record of 11 times
* Jordan is also 9th in field goals made in a season (1,069, in 1987-88)

* 6th, field goals attempted, season (2,279, in 1987)

* first 5 records are held by Wilt Chamberlain
* Jordan appears on this NBA's record top 100 list a total of 10 times

* 6th, points per game average, season (37.1)

* 4 are held by Wilt Chamberlain, 1 by Elgin Baylor.
* Jordan appears on this all-time NBA Top 100 list a record 10 times

* 6th, points per game average by a rookie, (28.2, 1984-85)

* ranked 3rd that season, behind the New York Knicks Bernard King, and the Boston Celtics Larry Bird

* 8th, free throws attempted, career (8,772)
* 8th, steals per game average, season (3.16, 1987-88)

* appears on the All-Time top 100 list a total of 6 times

Other:

* only player in NBA history to lead league in scoring and be Defensive Player of the Year in same season
* only player in NBA history to be Most Valuable Player, Defensive Player of the Year, and lead league in scoring in same season
* first player in NBA history to be Most Valuable Player and Defensive Player of the Year in same season

* Hakeem Olajuwon is the only other player to do so.

* one of 10+ players in NBA history to lead team in four statistics in a season

* In his rookie season, Jordan led his team in scoring (28.2 ppg), rebounding (6.5 rpg), assists (5.9 apg) and steals (2.4 spg), hence making him also the only rookie to perform this feat. He was second on the team in blocks.
* Jordan again led the Bulls in four of the five statistics in the 1987-88 season; scoring (35.0 ppg), assists (5.9 apg), steals (3.2 spg) and blocked shots (1.6 bpg).

* only player besides Wilt Chamberlain to score 3,000 points in a season (3,041 in 1986-87)
* first player in NBA history to collect both a scoring title and win a Defensive Player of the Year award in his career

* David Robinson is the only other player to do so.

* first player in NBA history to record 200 steals and 100 blocked shots in a season (236 steals, 125 blocks in 1986-87)

* Hakeem Olajuwon (1988-89) and Scottie Pippen (1989-90) are the only other players to do so.

* only player in NBA history to consecutively record 200 steals and 100 blocked shots in a season (259 steals, 131 blocks in 1987-88)

* 1986 through 1988

* only player in NBA history with multiple seasons of 200 steals and 100 blocked shots
* first player in NBA history to lead league both in scoring average and steals in same season

* did so for three seasons (1987-88, 1989-90, 1992-93)
* Allen Iverson is the only other player to do so, and has performed the feat twice.

* fourth player in NBA history to lead league in scoring average and win an NBA championship in same season

* did so for six seasons (1990-1993, 1996-1998)

* led the 1995-96 Chicago Bulls to an All-Time NBA Best Regular season record, with 72 wins, 10 losses

* averaged a league high 30.4 ppg

* led the 1995-96 Chicago Bulls to an All-Time NBA Best combined Regular and Post Season record with, 87 wins, 13 losses
* won the 1996 and 1998 Regular Season MVP, All-Star MVP, and NBA Finals MVP

* Willis Reed (1970) and Shaquille O'Neal (2000) are the only players to do so, Jordan is the only player to perform the feat twice

* one of three players to be an Olympic basketball gold medalist both as an amateur and professional
* one of three players in NBA history to average 20+ points, 5+ assists, and 5+ rebounds as a rookie

* joined by Oscar Robertson and LeBron James

* The only player in NBA history that has won Rookie Of The Year (1985), Regular Season MVP (5 times), All-Star MVP (3 times), Finals MVP (6 times), and Most Defensive Player of The Year Awards.

[edit] Chicago Bulls franchise records

Michael Jordan holds approximately 200 records as a Chicago Bull.
[edit] Regular Season Records

Most Points

* Jordan holds 92 of the top 100 scoring games in Chicago Bulls history.

* Game (OT): 69 — at Cleveland Cavaliers, March 28, 1990
* Game: 61 — vs Atlanta Hawks, April 16, 1987
* Half: 39 — vs Milwaukee Bucks, February 16, 1988 (2nd half)
* Quarter: 30 — at Denver Nuggets, November 26, 1989 (4th quarter)

Most Field Goals Made

* Game (OT): 27 — vs Orlando Magic, January 16, 1993
* Game: 24 — at Philadelphia 76ers, November 16, 1988
* Half: 15 — vs Orlando Magic, January 16, 1993 (1st half)
* Quarter: 11 twice — vs Orlando Magic, January 16, 1993 (1st quarter)

Most Field Goals Attempted

* Game (OT): 49 — vs Orlando Magic, January 16, 1993
* Game: 43 thrice — vs Orlando Magic, February 14, 1990
* Half: 24 — vs Orlando Magic, January 16, 1993 (2nd half)
* Overtime period: 8 — vs Seattle SuperSonics, February 23, 1988

Most Free Throws Made

* Game: 26 — vs New Jersey Nets, February 26, 1987
* Half: 20 — at Miami Heat, December 30, 1992 (2nd half)
* Quarter: 14 twice — at Utah Jazz, November 15, 1989 (4th quarter) — at Miami Heat, December 30, 1992 (4th quarter)

Most Free Throws Made, None Missed

* Game: 15 — vs New Jersey Nets, January 10, 1987

Most Free Throws Attempted

* Game: 27 — vs New Jersey Nets, February 26, 1987
* Half: 23 — at Miami Heat, December 30, 1992 (2nd half)
* Quarter: 16 — at Miami Heat, December 30, 1992 (4th quarter)

Most Personal Fouls

* Quarter: 6 — vs Detroit Pistons, January 31, 1989 (4th quarter)

Most Steals

* Game: 10 — vs New Jersey Nets, January 29, 1988
* Half: 8 — at Boston Celtics, November 9, 1988 (1st half)
* Quarter: 6 — vs New Jersey Nets, January 29, 1988 (3rd quarter)

Most Consecutive Points

* Game: 23 — vs Atlanta Hawks, April 16, 1987

* Jordan also scored 18 consecutive points, all within the 4th quarter, in a game vs. the New York Knicks on November 21, 1986.

Single-Season Records

* Points: 3,041 — 1986-87
* Points Per Game: 37.1 — 1986-87
* Field Goals Made: 1098 — 1986-87
* Field Goals Attempted: 2279 — 1986-87
* Field Goal Percentage, guard: .539 — 1990-91
* Free Throws Made: 833 — 1986-87
* Free Throws Attempted: 972 — 1986-87
* Steals: 259 — 1987-88
* Steals Per Game: 3.16 — 1987-88
* Games Played: 82 eight times

Career Records

* Seasons Played: 13
* Games Played: 930
* Minutes: 35,887
* Minutes Per Game: 38.6
* Points: 29,277
* Points Per Game: 31.5
* Field Goals Made: 10,962
* Field Goals Attempted: 21,686
* Field Goal Percentage, guard: .505
* Free Throws Made: 6,798
* Free Throws Attempted: 8,115
* Rebounds: 5,836
* Defensive Rebounds: 4,289
* Assists: 5,012
* Steals: 2,306
* Steals Per Game: 2.48

[edit] Other Selected Regular Season Records

Most Games

* Scoring 50 or more points, career: 30
* Scoring 40 or more points, career: 165
* Scoring 30 or more points, career: 536
* Scoring 20 or more points, career: 848
* Scoring 10 or more points, career: 929
* Scoring 50 or more points, season: 8 — 1986-87
* Scoring 40 or more points, season: 37 — 1986-87
* Scoring 30 or more points, season: 67 — 1986-87
* Scoring 20 or more points, season: 79 twice — 1986-87 & 1987-88
* Scoring 10 or more points, season: 82 eight times
* Recording 15 or more assists, career: 5
* Recording 10 or more assists, career: 74
* Recording 5 or more assists, career: 528
* Recording 5 or more steals, career: 102

Most Consecutive Games

* Scoring 50 or more points: 3
* Scoring 40 or more points: 9
* Scoring 30 or more points: 11
* Scoring 20 or more points: 72
* Scoring 15 or more points: 271
* Scoring 10 or more points: 840 (current)
* Recording 10 or more assists: 12
* Recording a steal: 77 — March 25, 1988-March 17, 1989

* Jordan recorded a steal in 80 of 81 games played in the 1988-89 season.

* Recording a triple-double: 7 — March 25-April 6, 1989

* Jordan recorded a triple-double in 10 of 11 games. His one miss was a 40 point, 11 assist, 7 rebound performance.

Most Seasons

* Scoring 2000 or more points: 11
* Scoring 1000 or more points: 11
* Averaging 30 or more points per game: 8
* Averaging 20 or more points per game: 13

[edit] Playoffs Records

Single-Game Records

* Points: 63, Michael Jordan, at Boston, 4-20-1986

* Field Goals: 24, Michael Jordan, vs Cleveland, 5-1-1988

* Field Goals Attempted: 45, Michael Jordan, vs Cleveland, 5-1-1988

* Free Throws: 22, Michael Jordan, vs Cleveland, 4-28-1988

* Free Throws Attempted: 27, Michael Jordan, vs Cleveland, 4-28-1988

* Free Throw Percentage (min. 10 made)

* 1.000 (11-11), Michael Jordan, at Seattle, 6-9-1996
* 1.000 (10-10), Michael Jordan, vs Washington, 4-27-1997

* Assists: 14, Michael Jordan, at New York, 6-2-1993

* Steals: 6, 4 different games

Single-Series Records

* Points: 246, Michael Jordan, vs Phoenix, 1993 NBA Finals

* Points Per Game: 45.2, Michael Jordan, vs Cleveland, 1988 First Round

* Field Goals: 101, Michael Jordan, vs Phoenix, 1993 NBA Finals

* Field Goals Per Game: 17.0, Michael Jordan, vs Cleveland, 1988 First Round

* Field Goals Attempted: 199, Michael Jordan, vs Phoenix, 1993 NBA Finals

* Field Goals Attempted Per Game: 33.2, Michael Jordan, vs Phoenix, 1993 NBA Finals

* Free Throws Made: 68, Michael Jordan, vs New York, 1989 Eastern Semifinals

* Free Throws Made Per Game

* 11.67, Michael Jordan, vs New Jersey, 1998 First Round
* 11.33, Michael Jordan, vs Boston, 1986 First Round
* 11.33, Michael Jordan, vs New York, 1989 Semifinals

* Free Throws Attempted

* 74, Michael Jordan, vs New York, 1989 Semifinals
* 74, Michael Jordan, vs Indiana, 1998 Eastern Finals

* Free Throws Attempted Per Game: 15.0, Michael Jordan, vs New Jersey, 1998 First Round

* Free Throw Percentage (min. 15 made)

* 1.000 (15-15), Michael Jordan, vs Washington, 1997 First Round
* 1.000 (28-28), Ben Gordon, vs Detroit, 2007 Semifinals

* Assists: 57, Michael Jordan, vs L.A. Lakers, 1991 NBA Finals

* Assists Per Game: 11.4, Michael Jordan, vs. L.A. Lakers, 1991 NBA Finals

Career Records

* Points: 5987

* Points Per Game: 33.5

* Field Goals: 2188

* Field Goals Per Game: 12.2

* Field Goals Attempted: 4497

* Field Goals Attempted Per Game: 25.1

* Free Throws: 1463

* Free Throws Per Game: 8.2

* Free Throws Attempted: 1766

* Free Throws Attempted Per Game: 9.9

* Assists: 1022

* Steals: 376

* Steals Per Game: 2.10

* Minutes: 7474

* Games Played: 179

Other Selected Playoffs Records

* Games, 50+ points: 8

* Games, 40+ points: 38

* Games, 30+ points: 109

* Games, 20+ points: 173

* Games, 10+ points: 179

* Consecutive games, 50+ points: 2

* Consecutive games, 40+ points: 4

* Consecutive games, 30+ points: 8

* Consecutive games, 20+ points: 60

* Consecutive games, 15+ points: 179

* Games, 10+ assists: 20

* Games, 5+ assists: 109

* Consecutive games, 8+ assists: 7

* Consecutive games, 5+ assists: 21

* Postseasons, 500+ points: 8

* Postseasons, 30+ points per game: 12

* Postseasons, 20+ points per game: 13

* Consecutive postseasons, 30+ points per game: 12

* Consecutive postseasons, 20+ points per game: 13

* Postseasons, 5+ rebounds per game: 12

* Postseasons, 100+ assists: 5

* Postseasons, 8+ assists per game: 2

* Postseasons, 5+ assists per game: 8

* Postseasons, 2+ steals per game: 10

* Points in a series by a rookie: 117

* Games, 30+ points by a rookie: 2

* Games, 20+ points by a rookie: 4

* Consecutive games, 20+ points by a rookie: 4

* Jordan is also both the fastest (in terms of games played) and youngest (in terms of age) player in franchise history to reach every point mark from 1 through 29 thousand points. He is second in league history in most of these respects behind Wilt Chamberlain.

[edit] Washington Wizards franchise records

* points scored, first quarter: 24 vs. Charlotte Hornets on December 29, 2001
* points scored, second quarter: 19 vs. Chicago on January 4, 2002
* points scored, half: 34 vs. Charlotte on December 29, 2001
* MCI Center record for points scored, game: 51 vs. Charlotte on December 29, 2001

* Shared with Gilbert Arenas

[edit] Career highs

Regular season:

* points: 69 (March 28, 1990 at Cleveland Cavaliers)
* field goals made: 27 (January 16, 1993 vs. Orlando Magic)
* field goals attempted: 49 (January 16, 1993 vs. Orlando Magic)
* field goal percentage (min. 10 made): .828, 24-29 (November 16, 1988 at Philadelphia 76ers)
* three point field goals made: 7 (January 18, 1990 vs. Golden Sate Warriors)
* three point field goal attempted: 12 (January 18, 1990 vs. Golden Sate Warriors)
* free throws made: 26 (February 26, 1987 vs. New Jersey Nets)
* free throws attempted: 27 (February 26, 1987 vs. New Jersey Nets)
* offensive rebounds: 8 4 times (November 28, 1986 at Los Angeles Lakers; December 5, 1989 vs. Denver Nuggets; December 21, 1990 vs. Los Angeles Lakers; March 18, 1997 vs Seattle SuperSonics)
* defensive rebounds: 14 (March 16, 1996 at New Jersey Nets)
* total rebounds: 18 twice (March 28, 1990 at Cleveland Cavaliers; and March 18, 1997 vs. Seattle SuperSonics)
* assists: 17 (March 24, 1989 at Portland Trail Blazers)
* steals: 10 (January 29, 1988 vs. New Jersey Nets)
* blocks: 6 (December 2, 1986 at Seattle SuperSonics)
* minutes played: 56 (February 3, 1992 at Utah Jazz)

Postseason:

* points: 63 (April 20, 1986 at Boston Celtics) *
* field goals made: 24 (May 1, 1988 vs. Cleveland Cavaliers) *
* field goals attempted: 45 (May 1, 1988 vs. Cleveland Cavaliers)
* field goal percentage (min. 10 made): .833, 15-18 (June 5, 1991, Game 2 of NBA Finals vs. Los Angeles Lakers)
* three point field goals made: 6 twice (June 3, 1992, Game 1 of NBA Finals vs. Portland Trail Blazers; May 31, 1993 vs. New York Knicks)
* three point field goals attempted: 11 (May 11, 1990 at Philadelphia 76ers)
* free throws made: 23 (May 14, 1989 vs. New York Knicks)
* free throws attempted: 28 (May 14, 1989 vs. New York Knicks)
* offensive rebounds: 8 (May 21, 1992 vs. Cleveland Cavaliers)
* defensive rebounds: 15 (May 14, 1991 vs. Philadelphia 76ers)
* total rebounds: 19 (May 14, 1991 vs. Philadelphia 76ers)
* assists: 14 (June 2, 1993 at New York Knicks)
* steals: 6 4 times (May 15, 1988 vs. Detroit Pistons; May 13, 1989 vs. New York Knicks; May 16, 1990 vs. Philadelphia 76ers; April 30, 1991 at New York Knicks)
* blocks: 5 (May 25, 1991 at Detroit Pistons)
* minutes played: 57 (June 13, 1993, Game 3 of NBA Finals vs. Phoenix Suns)

* NBA record
[edit] Other interesting notes

* Games in which Jordan was leading scorer: 700 * [1][17][18]
* Games in which Jordan was team's leading scorer: 867 *
* Games in which Jordan was Bulls leading scorer: 793 *
* Percentage of team's points, career: .290 (32,292/111,541)[19]
* Highest percentage of team's points, game: .602 (56/93), March 24, 1987 vs. Philadelphia 76ers[20]

* Including ties

 

[Winky Wright]

On his way to a 72 win season right? And Kobe is better, has a better cast and the Kings roster tonight is worse than that raptors team so i dont see how he was down by 20 to being with is my point.

Like what? Well besides quit on teams, demand trades, get blown out by record amounts in playoffs, lose in title series, play second fiddle on 3 of his title teams whiel failing to win finals mvp...

Seriously guys, lets just let the guy be himself and appreciate his talent without comparing him to MJ.

that is a very short weak less. Now do you want to see the list of all the things Jordan has done that Kobe hasnt....going to take you a long ass time to read it because there is not even a comparison brah..not even a comparison statistically or in terms of who holds more records..and more meaningfull records..compare things like scoring titles, defensive players of the years, rookie of year,titles, league mvps, finals mvps, all defensive teams, etc etc... aint even a comparison..and it shows your lack of basketball history to even try to make this comparison..Jordan literally owns 100s of more records than Kobe... look it up..

well, Kobe came in the league at 17 so rookie of the year was a tough one for him to get, i did compare all-d teams and kobe is on track to catch mj, i'd argue jordan would not get finals mvp's on a team w/ shaq in his prime (it doesn't make since to not give it to the guy shooting 60%), jordan's got kb on scoring titles for what that's worth - kobe's 35pts per in '06 is the highest average since jordan's 37 in '87 tho (and if we're talking scoring = wilt), mvp's jordans got, kb will have 2 after this year and we'll see where he goes from there (and Nash having 2 mvp's rtainted the award anyway)....i answered the question what kobe's done jordan hasn't.

and my lack of bball history? please. we're not going back that far talking jordan. was around for his whole career buddy....and the funny thing, is even tho he's retired MJ GETS BETTER EVERY YEAR haha thanks to peeps like you massaging his balls.

 

[BMG]

ah here we go again, last time the mj vs kobe thread was like 10+ pages

 

[Winky Wright]

@eewwll

and it's shit like the list you posted that blinds you to the fact that if you look at their skill level as basketball players there is a very legitimate debate as to who the better basketball player is.

 

[Blunt]

... but never about how Boston got Garnett and Allen for nothing.

Where did you get that idea??? Ever heard of a young fella named Al Jefferson??? You know the one who averaged 23 PPG and 11 RPG last year. He (along with 4 other players and 2 First Round picks) was traded for Garnett. That's far from "nothing."

And Ray Allen was hardly traded for "nothing" either. Ever heard of Delonte West or Wally Szcerbiak or Jeff Green??

 

[Spectrum]

check my post above. There is no comparison. And yes, you clearly show a lack of basketball history attempting to say Kobe has done things that Jordan hasnt done as a point of argumentation. The list for Jordan is MUCH longer, multiple times longer, and much more substantial as I have clearly hown. It is laughable that you would even attempt to use that as a premsie for your argument. Give that up.. that argument is lost and Kobe has very little chance to win the argument on a stastical basis... at this point, he needs to win TITLES.. the only area that he can catch Jordan in possibly

 

[Spectrum]

@eewwll

and it's shit like the list you posted that blinds you to the fact that if you look at their skill level as basketball players there is a very legitimate debate as to who the better basketball player is.

fucka outta you.. .you are one the one who made the list argument now Im blind because the facts kills your argument.. you muthafuckas are clowns

 

[Winky Wright]

@eewwll

kobe can't catch jordan in all-d 1st teams? 2 to tie 3 to win....i mean, Jordan was the man on his team from the jump so he has bigger numbers but started winning when his scoring dropped.

When Kobe didn't have shit on his team he dropped 35 a game - higher than all Jordan's season scoring averages except one.

I'm making a point about skill level as well aside from numbers. Like I said Kobe has done shit Jordan couldn't.

 

[Maleman]

even if kobe is better i would never admit it. all individual stats aside, mj never lost in the finals...mj was always clutch IN THE FINALS.

 

[Winky Wright]

fucka outta you.. .you are one the one who made the list argument now Im blind because the facts kills your argument.. you muthafuckas are clowns

list argument? what are you taling about? question was ask what kobe has done jordan hasn't.

and here you come w/ your cut & paste MJ argument from 10 years ago. fuck outta here. your heros #1 status is on the line. sorry.

 

[Spectrum]

@eewwll

kobe can't catch jordan in all-d 1st teams? 2 to tie 3 to win....i mean, Jordan was the man on his team from the jump so he has bigger numbers but started winning when his scoring dropped.

Stop with the IF stuff or conditionals. In that case, Kobe maybe wouldnt even have a title if he werent drafted to the Lakers and started his career on already good team with a hall of fame center and shaq who had dominant finals performances to get kobe his first three titles when he was clearly in no position to lead the team himself.

So lets just stop with the ifs. The IFs dont play out well for Kobe

When Kobe didn't have shit on his team he dropped 35 a game - higher than all Jordan's season scoring averages except one.

Jordan has the highest average in one season, per season for career, playoffs, finals etc... either way you chop it up, jordan wins in every example when it comes to scoring average. So give the argument.

I'm making a point about skill level as well aside from numbers. Like I said Kobe has done shit Jordan couldn't.

Jordan did 100s of more things that Kobe couldnt;..so your point is what.. that Kobes 5 things are >>> than the 100s by Jordan :lol

Jordan had a greater wingspan, vertical, hang time, was faster (on recording dashes), stronger (recordes bench presses, etc), bigger hands...

Jordan has the better field goal percentage, better scoring averages, better rebounding averages, better steals averages, was better in the best.. has the about the same 3 point average as Kobe, was the better defenders, etc..... definitely played in a better league where defenders could hand-check, bang you in the post, etc....

won more titles, etc.

so how is Kobe the better player at this point

 

[Winky Wright]

even if kobe is better i would never admit it. all individual stats aside, mj never lost in the finals...mj was always clutch IN THE FINALS.

yeah yeah. Kobe's already been to the finals as many times as jordan and i'm betting he will grab more rings. Magic went to the finals 9 times. it's not Magic's fault he faced better competition than jordan haha

 

[Spectrum]

list argument? what are you taling about? question was ask what kobe has done jordan hasn't.

and here you come w/ your cut & paste MJ argument from 10 years ago. fuck outta here. your heros #1 status is on the line. sorry.

nigga that is a fucking list....You listed the things that Kobe has done that Jordan didnt as the premise of your argumetn....are you stupid. ok..you made the list..unfortunately the list of things that Jordan has done that Kobe hasnt even infinintely longer..

This shit is an easy argument. Kobe doesnt win in either of two ways you can analyze this... quantatively (stats) or qualitatively (accomplishments like titles, mvps, etc). And its easy to analyze being the played the same position.

 

[Blaq]

You're definitely young.

Cosign

 

[8/11Streetz]

he on his way but i wouldnt say it just yet.

 

[Winky Wright]

nigga that is a fucking list....You listed the things that Kobe has done that Jordan didnt as the premise of your argumetn....are you stupid. ok..you made the list..unfortunately the list of things that Jordan has done that Kobe hasnt even infinintely longer..

This shit is an easy argument. Kobe doesnt win in either of two ways you can analyze this... quantatively (stats) or qualitatively (accomplishments like titles, mvps, etc). And its easy to analyze being the played the same position.

read the thread bro. my original post was in response to what kobe has done that mj hasn't. you brought on everything outside of that.

& there is something looking at the guys as players as oppose to awards & records. Kobe's got a better J for example, kobe's got a better left. Jordan was better driving, jordan was more efficient with he ball. Kobe's got a better handle but tries all kinda shit that cause turnovers, jordan kept it simple w/ his handle and was more in control for it.

like i said Jordan somehow gets better every year.

 

[MadWun]

This is coming from a die hard Lakers and Kobe fan: Jordan is the basketball "GOD". Case closed.

Kobe, Lebron, Wade, or whoever else will never ever be better than Jordan. They should even be happy that their names are mentioned in the same breathe with Jordan's name.

Yes Kobe has, and is doing some amazing things this year and prior years, but why the fuck do we need "buzzer beaters" to win games? If the Lakers plan to repeat this year, they need to step up the D and put teams away. I mean why the fuck did we bring Artest aboard if our D was only going to get shittier? We barely have a PG right now. Kobe is the Assist leader on a team where we have 3 PGs. We will not repeat with this shitty ass squad if we do not do something about PG play.

Again, Jordan is the basketball "GOD", and lets stop the Jordan/Kobe comparisons as it makes no sense.

 

[ron_mexico]

Another late 80's early 90's baby loose on bgol...Learn about the nba first son. Jordan changed the game, Kobe is imitating Jordan's highlight reels at best. And for the cat's that keep saying give Kobe a "Pippen", come the fuck on. Ok so give him Pippen and take away Odom, Gasal and Fisher, let him play the 88-92 Piston, Knicks, and Barkley led 76's and lets see how far he gets. Kobe is a great player that has established himself as such but you niggas wit his dick in your mouths that never saw Jordan play or understand how the league was then compared to now need to seriously shut the fuck up.

Truth. Kobe has had better teams than Jordan his entire career. Jordan never had a true big man. Kobe has a very good one now and once had one of the greatest ever gtfoh. These young cats don't even realize that 95% of championship teams have a great big man. Jordan is the only dude to win multiple chmpionships without one.

Further more Kobe will never match Jordans career scoring avg, even with the league rules changed to help fools score today. Kobe is dropping 40 the past few nights??!!

Jordan avg 37 for a entire season gtfoh!!!

 

[npcannon]

Jordan avg 37 for a entire season gtfoh!!!

nuff' said

 

[THREAD_CRITIC]

@eewwll pretty much /thread


I like Kobe but Jordan played in a time when teams actually played Defense

 

[ron_mexico]

Funny shit is Kobe isn't even the best Laker of all time. Right now I'd put him third behind Magic and Kareem....

 

[blackman80]

man what kind of drugs you was taking over the holidays for you to say something like that...





NO ONE IS BETTER THAN MICHEAL JORDAN!!!!!





case closed

 

[Bruh In Law]

Don't worry, there is some youngin in grade school right now, whom in 15 years people will be saying is better than Kobe and Jordan. Folks just need to understand, Jordan was the best when he was doing it and Kobe is believe by some to be the best at it while he is doing it. I knew shit had changed when my 18 yr old son asked me when the camera was put on Phil Jackson during a Lakers game "he use to coach the Bulls right'? I looked at him then had to remember he was born in 1991 after the Bulls had won their first Championship and was only 7 when they won their final Championship so although he has grown up in Chicago his whole life, the Bulls winning Championships is as foreign as Ali winning boxing titles to me and I was born in the early 70's.

Being from Chicago, I am too biased to give my opinion on who is better in the Jordan versus Kobe debate.... but like I said the Kobe lovers just get ready, in the next ten years you will be on the side the Jordan fans are now...Those whom came of age during he Jordan years remember the Jordan, Dr. J debates so maybe Kobe will one day put to rest the idea that Jordan is better than him in the same way Jordan put the rest the idea that Dr. J was better than him.. Time will tell...

 

[ron_mexico]

Being from Chicago, I am too biased to give my opinion on who is better in the Jordan versus Kobe debate.... but like I said the Kobe lovers just get ready, in the next ten years you will be on the side the Jordan fans are now...Those whom came of age during he Jordan years remember the Jordan, Dr. J debates so maybe Kobe will one day put to rest the idea that Jordan is better than him in the same way Jordan put the rest the idea that Dr. J was better than him.. Time will tell...

Shiii...they won't have to wait that long.

 

[Bruh In Law]

Shiii...they won't have to wait that long.

 

[parisian]

word to Big Pun: "I shatter dreams like Jordan, assault and batter your team"

 

[DJToddLove]

yea yea, bring the haters in....this nigga kobe is unbelievable! Clutch factor is right up there with jordan's. He hit 3 game winners within the last month. If he get's another ring this year it's really official that he's better than jordan. Haterz what y'all got to say, people make a million threads when they lose, but hate when they win...i Love it....KOBE oh yea not to mention, he's averaging 40 a nite these last past games with a broken finger. and puts 20 on niggas with his left hand!!! what can u say really???

I'm not really a Kobe hater, I just think early in his career he was a cry baby. I must admit he is doing his thing. If the numbers show it then he can't be denied.

 

[Rocky Miavia]

You know what, I'm gonna UPS you this gun. When it arrives please Kill Yourself!

 

[LordSinister]

Kobe is about 88-93% Jordan. 5 rings will move that to 95%. 6 rings will move that to 97% 7 rings will put him even.

Now, if he continues with the post play, and increasing his FG% up to 50% and upping his assist/turnover ratio, I'll give it to him. Right now, he still has serious flaws.

But he does have 81

Jordan never had 81

 

[nyyyyce]

no more needs to be said.

/thread

 

[TheFuser]

the fact that you have to come up with an argument to prove Kobe is better than Mike actually proves he is not. No one has to prove why Jordan is the best player. His resume speaks for itself.

Kobe is a great player. But Jordan he is not. The fact that Kobe still basically emulates everything Jordan does, from his facial expressions to his walk tells the story. No one tries to be someone they're greater than. Just saying.