Wireless Industry Heads:Talk To Me About CLEARWIRE

[SIDESHOW]

What do you think of the company and its future? I know they've got some serious backing from the likes of Intel, Google, and Sprint.

Do you think they're poised to become a major player, or are they going to be continually be overshadowed by the larger competitors?

 

[Adam Knows]

aren't they just buying time from sprint?

 

[RoomService]

i heard comcast owns a piece of clear

 

[Mt Airy Groove]

i heard comcast owns a piece of clear

Sprint, Comcast, Intel Putting Another $1.5B into Clearwire?
When we heard Clearwire’s Hope Cochran was a no-show at last week’s Open Mobile Summit due to a last-minute trip to New York, we knew something was up — and since Cochran is Clearwire’s senior VP for finance and treasury, it (apparently) had something to do with money talks, specifically the kind that helps you keep building those costly consumer wireless networks.

On Sunday the Wall Street Journal was reporting that Sprint, Intel, Comcast and others will soon be investing another $1.5 billion in the builder of a nascent national WiMAX wireless network, which recently launched services in Chicago, Dallas and Philadelphia. As Om notes, the cash infusion shouldn’t come as a surprise, especially since Clearwire CEO Bill Morrow has been pretty open about his company’s need for more working capital — and likewise, Sprint CEO Dan Hesse has been open about his company’s willingness to double down on its Clearwire investment.
rest of the story can be found here:
http://www.sidecutreports.com/2009/11/09/sprint-comcast-intel-putting-another-15b-into-clearwire/

 

[DJ GROOVE]

Damn, you learn something new each day on BGOL. I have clear and I have to say it's been a blessing. Road Runner is too damn high, so clear is right up my budget. Now I pay $55 a month for a usb stick and a modem(one for my desktop and the other from my PS3). When I finally get a labtop then the usb stick will be used for that and I will go and purchase a wireless router for the modem so I get online for the PS3 and my desktop.

 

[Mt Airy Groove]

In the lab, WiMax can deliver a peak data speed of 40Mbit/sec. But in the real world, speed depends on things like how far you are from a transmitting tower, how many others are using the network and the general health of the Internet. Expect to see download speeds between 3Mbit/sec. and 5Mbit/sec., or about three times what the current 3G networks from AT&T, Sprint and Verizon can deliver.

 

[justfacts]

I'm an RF engineer for Clear here in Philly.

 

[VWchrisATL]

How is the service compared to comcast?.....Been thinking about getting it since I use a laptop as my primary computer now....

 

[thismybgolname]

Service has been very nice every time that I've played with it but the last time that I checked they didn't have an OS X client.

Also if you're not in a 4G area then your speeds will drop to 3G.

 

[justfacts]

The service is a bit sporadic right now in Philadelphia. Everything is good with the RF and wireless TX. Problem is lack of support from the city itself and PECO.

 

[SIDESHOW]

Sprint, Comcast, Intel Putting Another $1.5B into Clearwire?
When we heard Clearwire’s Hope Cochran was a no-show at last week’s Open Mobile Summit due to a last-minute trip to New York, we knew something was up — and since Cochran is Clearwire’s senior VP for finance and treasury, it (apparently) had something to do with money talks, specifically the kind that helps you keep building those costly consumer wireless networks.

On Sunday the Wall Street Journal was reporting that Sprint, Intel, Comcast and others will soon be investing another $1.5 billion in the builder of a nascent national WiMAX wireless network, which recently launched services in Chicago, Dallas and Philadelphia. As Om notes, the cash infusion shouldn’t come as a surprise, especially since Clearwire CEO Bill Morrow has been pretty open about his company’s need for more working capital — and likewise, Sprint CEO Dan Hesse has been open about his company’s willingness to double down on its Clearwire investment.
rest of the story can be found here:
http://www.sidecutreports.com/2009/11/09/sprint-comcast-intel-putting-another-15b-into-clearwire/

Articles like this, are causing me to ask questions like the ones posed in my first post.

I wonder what the "big picture" is for Clearwire. Will they slowly continue to chip away and gain market share? Are they poised to explode or maybe IMPLODE?

 

[ankhheru]

i use it and must complain about the speed and requirement for a contract. its not as fast as cable and a little slower than dsl. you cant watch a streaming movie without buffering a considerable amount of the movie first and forget about trying to do other oline tasks while viewing movies or downloading. i use it now as a back up online service in case my cable goes out because i got locked into a long ass contract.

 

[SIDESHOW]

bump

 

[sirwood]

Funny this Post would come, today i just cop the sprint 4G card witch is the same as the clear wireless card, coming for 3G to 4G is night and Day, this MoFo Flying, No waiting for pages to load or none of that, Shits on Point so Far

 

[bham_brotha]

Sucked for me in my house... took too long to load pages and streaming media buffered constantly. Went back to Charter...

 

[water]

What do you think of the company and its future? I know they've got some serious backing from the likes of Intel, Google, and Sprint.

Do you think they're poised to become a major player, or are they going to be continually be overshadowed by the larger competitors?

Think people are missing the questions but I'll give it a stab.

Clearwire is 4G implemented using a WIMAX network

Other 4G implementations are LTE which some carriers like Verizon are already building out.

4G is a standard that guarantees certain performance and service level.

Customers don't really care about the various implementations.

The main difference in implementations is the bandwidth (the chunk of frequencies used) to give you the required speed.

This is just some background info.

Now to your question:

Traditionally carriers are closed to outside vendors like Cisco, Google, Intel etc in their core network. Their m.o. was to control what the users could d and control 3rd parties from cannabilizing theri incremental profits.

However Clearwire (the group) has a clear intent, a clear means of breaking that dominance.

Intel can now compete with traditional handset vendors such as Ericsson, Nokia etc
Google can claim the mobile search market
Brighthouse & Comcast can use bundling to enhance their protfolio. Comcast just bought NBC so now they will be getting into content also (big play by them)
Sprint can now slow cash burn by having a partnership in the network buildout.
Cisco bought Starent Networks because carriers were ordering their network equipment. Now Cisco has a firm foot further in the Core Network.

To me this group is determined to break the monopoly the traditional carriers had and I believe they will be successful.

Also note that Google is providing Android as an open source mobile OS so that they can target phones without the carriers interference and at the same time control the mobile search market.

An interesting book that will explain what is happening is The Innovator's Dilemma.

I recommend this book to all my friends no matter the industry they work in.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0060521996/?tag=vp314-20

Hope this helps.........

 

[SIDESHOW]

Think people are missing the questions but I'll give it a stab.

Clearwire is 4G implemented using a WIMAX network

Other 4G implementations are LTE which some carriers like Verizon are already building out.

4G is a standard that guarantees certain performance and service level.

Customers don't really care about the various implementations.

The main difference in implementations is the bandwidth (the chunk of frequencies used) to give you the required speed.

This is just some background info.

Now to your question:

Traditionally carriers are closed to outside vendors like Cisco, Google, Intel etc in their core network. Their m.o. was to control what the users could d and control 3rd parties from cannabilizing theri incremental profits.

However Clearwire (the group) has a clear intent, a clear means of breaking that dominance.

Intel can now compete with traditional handset vendors such as Ericsson, Nokia etc
Google can claim the mobile search market
Brighthouse & Comcast can use bundling to enhance their protfolio. Comcast just bought NBC so now they will be getting into content also (big play by them)
Sprint can now slow cash burn by having a partnership in the network buildout.
Cisco bought Starent Networks because carriers were ordering their network equipment. Now Cisco has a firm foot further in the Core Network.

To me this group is determined to break the monopoly the traditional carriers had and I believe they will be successful.

Also note that Google is providing Android as an open source mobile OS so that they can target phones without the carriers interference and at the same time control the mobile search market.

An interesting book that will explain what is happening is The Innovator's Dilemma.

I recommend this book to all my friends no matter the industry they work in.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0060521996/?tag=vp314-20

Hope this helps.........

This is the type of reply I'm looking for. Fire response. Thanks kaya.

 

[water]

This is the type of reply I'm looking for. Fire response. Thanks kaya.

Anytime........

Also bookmark this, I'm trying to keep a running thread that should evolve over time.

Trying to get Brothers hip to the game.

BGOL PSA: All your wireless technology questions answered............
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=430438

 

[SIDESHOW]

Anytime........

Also bookmark this, I'm trying to keep a running thread that should evolve over time.

Trying to get Brothers hip to the game.

BGOL PSA: All your wireless technology questions answered............
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=430438

 

[macker007]

I'm an RF engineer for Clear here in Philly.

i use it and must complain about the speed and requirement for a contract. its not as fast as cable and a little slower than dsl. you cant watch a streaming movie without buffering a considerable amount of the movie first and forget about trying to do other oline tasks while viewing movies or downloading. i use it now as a back up online service in case my cable goes out because i got locked into a long ass contract.

Funny this Post would come, today i just cop the sprint 4G card witch is the same as the clear wireless card, coming for 3G to 4G is night and Day, this MoFo Flying, No waiting for pages to load or none of that, Shits on Point so Far

I got a Sprint MiFi card and I take everywhere with me. My kids use it and people be like how you do that, LOL Sprint ain't the best, but It do what I need t to Do!

 

[SIDESHOW]

I'm an RF engineer for Clear here in Philly.

opinions?

 

[water]

This is the type of reply I'm looking for. Fire response. Thanks kaya.

Supplemental info announced today:

Ericsson Axes 1,000 More Staff

December 8, 2009

Ericsson AB (Nasdaq: ERIC) caught everyone by surprise today with news of staff cuts in Sweden that will see more than 900 employees lose their jobs.

The majority of the cuts, which aren't part of the previously announced headcount reductions, will see 856 jobs go at a 3G base station plant in Gävle, while 90 staff are being laid off in Borås, reports The Swedish Wire.

Ericsson announced 5,000 job cuts at the beginning of 2009, including 1,000 in Sweden. Those reductions have already been made. (See Ericsson Soars on Strong Q4, Outlook.)

The Swedish giant recently announced third-quarter financial results that showed a year-on-year dip in revenues and a massive drop in profits. (See Pressure Tells on Ericsson's Q3.)

Other parts of the vendor's business are also grappling with tough trading conditions and are also reducing their staff numbers. Mobile chip joint venture ST-Ericsson has just announced that up to 600 positions could be cut, while handset firm Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications has spent 2009 implementing cost reduction plans initiated last year. (See ST-Ericsson Plans Further Cutbacks and Sony Ericsson Reports Q3.)

But Ericsson has also been adding to its staff numbers by acquiring various parts of bankrupt vendor Nortel Networks Ltd. , deals that will see staff added to the Ericsson payroll, particularly in North America. (See Ericsson Buys Nortel's GSM Biz Too, Ericsson: Why We Want Nortel's Wireless, and Ericsson Delivers Knockout Blow to NSN.)

Ericsson isn't the only major vendor looking to slim down its workforce, of course: Rival Nokia Siemens Networks announced a restructuring plan a month ago that could see as many as 5,760 staff lose their jobs. (See Nokia Siemens Revamps, Cuts Jobs.)



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The pressure has started as I mentioned yesterday. The traditional vendors are being impacted in a big way