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All these women out here and dudes having trouble. Part of the game is that?![]()
Average is as average does I guess. There are plenty of great black women out there, most cats are just average and unremarkable. Some of you guys.
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Just like the women you attract.
Three pages of cats whining like bitches. Wow.
no beef but if that's what you got out of smoovejazz's post then you are really dense. just make yourself happy and tell yourself that it's everyone else's fault - that seems to be what you're searching for - some kind of validation that you have no flaws.
= sarcasm 
All these women out here and dudes having trouble. Part of the game is that?![]()
Average is as average does I guess. There are plenty of great black women out there, most cats are just average and unremarkable. Some of you guys.
![]()
Just like the women you attract.

Sorry. Not my fault you can't read.What did I lie about faggot?![]()
I just broke rule number one by replying to you however, I shall continue. I have had plenty of experiences with other races of women and I have never been disrespected by a black female like I got from White/Asian/Hispanic females.
First of all, I'm going to call bullshit on your statement right now for the simple fact that...
1. if you constantly dated women who constantly disrespected you then somethings wrong with you
and
2. if you say you weren't constantly being disrespected because you didn't date outside your race that many times, then that means you didn't date enough white Hispanic/Asian females to know what you're talking about.
So either way you're lying.
Sooo... you have 6 screen names now???Need to go and get a life and retire at least 6 of them screen names.

Sorry. Not my fault you can't read.
But don't worry you maggot infested faggot. I'll help you out.
See first you posted this lie...
Then I called you on that lie...
See??? Now from now on,
please try actually reading the posts first
and that way you won't be so confused, ok?
Sooo... you have 6 screen names now???
Dude you're starting to confuse yourself.![]()
I keep telling you, the rest of us only use one screen name. You should do the same. It's better that way.![]()
I am a Black male professional that is the type of man that Black women say they want, but I've been turned down many times. I used to think there was something wrong with me until I talked with my circle of confidantes (who are mostly Black men and women of varying ages) that know me well and are brutally honest with me. We have reviewed the women that I have been attracted to over the years, and the conclusion was that there was nothing wrong with me except I was not seeing early on the red flags a woman may put up that tell you that she is not worth pursuing. I would tend to pursue these types of women, only to get dogged in the process. The women would always say that there were some things that they did not like (they were often bullshit reasons like the "too nice" thing (hey, my parents taught me how to treat a woman, so I'm not gonna deviate from that), the "swagger" thing (which is a term that is so overused and played out these days), etc.) Many of these women were very opinionated, but did not allow me to have an opinion. Many of them expected me to do all the changing, but did not feel that they had to change a thing. Many of them were superficial in terms of material possessions, money, looks, etc. Many of these women ended up in relationships with men that were "thuggish" in their behavior, or had money, "swagger", status, etc., but the one thing that was lacking was mutual love and respect in their future relationships...they may appear happy, but down inside, they really weren't. Many of these women did not have adequate male role models in their lives, so they didn't learn how to be loved and respected in a relationship, and many learned early on to "use what they've got to get what they want". The women in question were in the 25-45 age range.
Thanks to my circle of confidantes, I have come to realize that many Black women make life difficult for themselves and the men they want, and the men who want them. Granted, there are some non-desirable men, but there are an underestimated number of undesirable women as well. I still hold out hope that there will be a Sister that I will be compatible with (no, I have not given up yet, but I have come damn close), but I will no longer accept the entire blame if a woman is not attracted to me. I have learned to see that they are missing out on the fullness of spirit and individuality that I possess (that's not being cocky - we all have it, but many of us go a lifetime without actually realizing it fully, if at all). I will, however, hold up my responsibility by being the best person that I can, and by doing that, I will eventually attract someone who does not have negativity within themselves, which was what I had been doing for far too long.
You're gonna continue to be shitted on cuz ur a punk bitch, and you need to realize that. Women DO NOT like that. All that "my momma taught me how to treat a women, I'll never deviate from that" shit needs to stop. Get real. Women like a challenge just like any other human being, quit being a bitch push-over. Stop over-respecting women. When ur dating a women get other womens numbers, talk, get out there, thats the only way you'll gain some respect. And quit getting your feelings tied up in these bitches, act in the laws of abundance, just like women do, thats why she's not sweating you. Women adhere to the laws of abundance when it comes to dick, dick practically falls out of the sky, you need to act as if pussy falls from the sky and not sweat her pussy. C'mon man, man up.
Your mother.
This is a thinking thread that requires about 120 points of I.Q so i thought i'd give you a fair warning.
Why do people insest .....
You're gonna continue to be shitted on cuz ur a punk bitch, and you need to realize that. Women DO NOT like that. All that "my momma taught me how to treat a women, I'll never deviate from that" shit needs to stop. Get real. Women like a challenge just like any other human being, quit being a bitch push-over. Stop over-respecting women. When ur dating a women get other womens numbers, talk, get out there, thats the only way you'll gain some respect. And quit getting your feelings tied up in these bitches, act in the laws of abundance, just like women do, thats why she's not sweating you. Women adhere to the laws of abundance when it comes to dick, dick practically falls out of the sky, you need to act as if pussy falls from the sky and not sweat her pussy. C'mon man, man up.
You're gonna continue to be shitted on cuz ur a punk bitch, and you need to realize that. Women DO NOT like that. All that "my momma taught me how to treat a women, I'll never deviate from that" shit needs to stop. Get real. Women like a challenge just like any other human being, quit being a bitch push-over. Stop over-respecting women. When ur dating a women get other womens numbers, talk, get out there, thats the only way you'll gain some respect. And quit getting your feelings tied up in these bitches, act in the laws of abundance, just like women do, thats why she's not sweating you. Women adhere to the laws of abundance when it comes to dick, dick practically falls out of the sky, you need to act as if pussy falls from the sky and not sweat her pussy. C'mon man, man up.
Ok, I'll just make it clear as to what the problem and solution is...
Imagine a scale, you have Poindexter all around good guy, pure in morals pure in motive amazingly sensitive in feelings and never violent. He's a 1.
Next you have Jamal Jenkins, aka "Black" hardcore thug, gangster, drug dealer, don't give a fuck about shit and has no qualms about throwing a female from a moving car should she act up or refuse to give up the pussy. He's a 100. All men fall in between 2 to 99.
When Poindexter leaves the toilet seat up, he gets yelled at in front of his friends, family or has water thrown on him in the middle of the night because his girl fell in. He will adjust and try to remember to leave the toilet seat down but because his girl was able to get away with acting stank, she will continue to do so on any issue. Hence, she will eventually lose respect for him.
Jamal Jenkins leaves the toilet seat up without even caring if its an issue and if his girl raises stank, she knows he will shove her face in that same said toilet. She doesn't want to call the police because he's hustling in the home and she'll go to jail too.
Therefore Jamal Jenkins automatically recieves a higher level of respect over Poindexter and is never challenged. Hence, Poindexter walks on eggshells to his girl, Jamal Jenkins walks on water to his girl.
Solution: Never get married. Keep your options open. Make sure you're in a situation where you can kick your girl out the house anytime you please(keep her off the lease, etc) and she wont act shitty when she knows she has to leave if she doesn't please you.
Whats unfortunate, most sisters can only respect a man thats 85+ on that scale despite wanting a good guy all the way down to Poindexter.

Great point. One of the most interesting phenomena that I have realized with a few black woman corresponds to the scale you mentioned and towards the concept of "swagga" and cool. What I have found is that some black woman (b/c I haven't met all black woman) are more accepting and will date a pointdextor or cat with little to no "swagga" if that person is not a black guy. But if a black guy exhibits characteristics of an all around "nice guy" or is on your scale from 1-85 chances are a sista will not fuck with him. Thus, it seems that sista's are very particular about the brotha's they date, but are more willing to try a "nice guy" from a different race.
Have any of the brothers on this board witnessed this phenomenon? Or am I just bugging![]()
Great point. One of the most interesting phenomena that I have realized with a few black woman corresponds to the scale you mentioned and towards the concept of "swagga" and cool. What I have found is that some black woman (b/c I haven't met all black woman) are more accepting and will date a pointdextor or cat with little to no "swagga" if that person is not a black guy. But if a black guy exhibits characteristics of an all around "nice guy" or is on your scale from 1-85 chances are a sista will not fuck with him. Thus, it seems that sista's are very particular about the brotha's they date, but are more willing to try a "nice guy" from a different race.
Have any of the brothers on this board witnessed this phenomenon? Or am I just bugging![]()
Great point. One of the most interesting phenomena that I have realized with a few black woman corresponds to the scale you mentioned and towards the concept of "swagga" and cool. What I have found is that some black woman (b/c I haven't met all black woman) are more accepting and will date a pointdextor or cat with little to no "swagga" if that person is not a black guy. But if a black guy exhibits characteristics of an all around "nice guy" or is on your scale from 1-85 chances are a sista will not fuck with him. Thus, it seems that sista's are very particular about the brotha's they date, but are more willing to try a "nice guy" from a different race.
Have any of the brothers on this board witnessed this phenomenon? Or am I just bugging![]()
Three pages of cats whining like bitches. Wow.
not mad, very happy actually that I don't have to deal with that kind of woman. Found my future wife already thank God.
Great point. One of the most interesting phenomena that I have realized with a few black woman corresponds to the scale you mentioned and towards the concept of "swagga" and cool. What I have found is that some black woman (b/c I haven't met all black woman) are more accepting and will date a pointdextor or cat with little to no "swagga" if that person is not a black guy. But if a black guy exhibits characteristics of an all around "nice guy" or is on your scale from 1-85 chances are a sista will not fuck with him. Thus, it seems that sista's are very particular about the brotha's they date, but are more willing to try a "nice guy" from a different race.
Have any of the brothers on this board witnessed this phenomenon? Or am I just bugging![]()
not mad, very happy actually that I don't have to deal with that kind of woman. Found my future wife already thank God.
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Your mother.
I love it!!!


Beautiful!!!

KTD be easy, peps always catch you in lies

Ok, I'll just make it clear as to what the problem and solution is...
Imagine a scale, you have Poindexter all around good guy, pure in morals pure in motive amazingly sensitive in feelings and never violent. He's a 1.
Next you have Jamal Jenkins, aka "Black" hardcore thug, gangster, drug dealer, don't give a fuck about shit and has no qualms about throwing a female from a moving car should she act up or refuse to give up the pussy. He's a 100. All men fall in between 2 to 99.
When Poindexter leaves the toilet seat up, he gets yelled at in front of his friends, family or has water thrown on him in the middle of the night because his girl fell in. He will adjust and try to remember to leave the toilet seat down but because his girl was able to get away with acting stank, she will continue to do so on any issue. Hence, she will eventually lose respect for him.
Jamal Jenkins leaves the toilet seat up without even caring if its an issue and if his girl raises stank, she knows he will shove her face in that same said toilet. She doesn't want to call the police because he's hustling in the home and she'll go to jail too.
Therefore Jamal Jenkins automatically recieves a higher level of respect over Poindexter and is never challenged. Hence, Poindexter walks on eggshells to his girl, Jamal Jenkins walks on water to his girl.
Solution: Never get married. Keep your options open. Make sure you're in a situation where you can kick your girl out the house anytime you please(keep her off the lease, etc) and she wont act shitty when she knows she has to leave if she doesn't please you.
Whats unfortunate, most sisters can only respect a man thats 85+ on that scale despite wanting a good guy all the way down to Poindexter.
Women don't like you because you hold feminine traits. You couldn't even answer a question as simple as "how old are you".
You're gonna continue to be shitted on cuz ur a punk bitch, and you need to realize that. Women DO NOT like that. All that "my momma taught me how to treat a women, I'll never deviate from that" shit needs to stop. Get real. Women like a challenge just like any other human being, quit being a bitch push-over. Stop over-respecting women. When ur dating a women get other womens numbers, talk, get out there, thats the only way you'll gain some respect. And quit getting your feelings tied up in these bitches, act in the laws of abundance, just like women do, thats why she's not sweating you. Women adhere to the laws of abundance when it comes to dick, dick practically falls out of the sky, you need to act as if pussy falls from the sky and not sweat her pussy. C'mon man, man up.
Great point. One of the most interesting phenomena that I have realized with a few black woman corresponds to the scale you mentioned and towards the concept of "swagga" and cool. What I have found is that some black woman (b/c I haven't met all black woman) are more accepting and will date a pointdextor or cat with little to no "swagga" if that person is not a black guy. But if a black guy exhibits characteristics of an all around "nice guy" or is on your scale from 1-85 chances are a sista will not fuck with him. Thus, it seems that sista's are very particular about the brotha's they date, but are more willing to try a "nice guy" from a different race.
Have any of the brothers on this board witnessed this phenomenon? Or am I just bugging![]()

Ok, I'll just make it clear as to what the problem and solution is...
Imagine a scale, you have Poindexter all around good guy, pure in morals pure in motive amazingly sensitive in feelings and never violent. He's a 1.
Next you have Jamal Jenkins, aka "Black" hardcore thug, gangster, drug dealer, don't give a fuck about shit and has no qualms about throwing a female from a moving car should she act up or refuse to give up the pussy. He's a 100. All men fall in between 2 to 99.
When Poindexter leaves the toilet seat up, he gets yelled at in front of his friends, family or has water thrown on him in the middle of the night because his girl fell in. He will adjust and try to remember to leave the toilet seat down but because his girl was able to get away with acting stank, she will continue to do so on any issue. Hence, she will eventually lose respect for him.
Jamal Jenkins leaves the toilet seat up without even caring if its an issue and if his girl raises stank, she knows he will shove her face in that same said toilet. She doesn't want to call the police because he's hustling in the home and she'll go to jail too.
Therefore Jamal Jenkins automatically recieves a higher level of respect over Poindexter and is never challenged. Hence, Poindexter walks on eggshells to his girl, Jamal Jenkins walks on water to his girl.
Solution: Never get married. Keep your options open. Make sure you're in a situation where you can kick your girl out the house anytime you please(keep her off the lease, etc) and she wont act shitty when she knows she has to leave if she doesn't please you.
Whats unfortunate, most sisters can only respect a man thats 85+ on that scale despite wanting a good guy all the way down to Poindexter.




Great point. One of the most interesting phenomena that I have realized with a few black woman corresponds to the scale you mentioned and towards the concept of "swagga" and cool. What I have found is that some black woman (b/c I haven't met all black woman) are more accepting and will date a pointdextor or cat with little to no "swagga" if that person is not a black guy. But if a black guy exhibits characteristics of an all around "nice guy" or is on your scale from 1-85 chances are a sista will not fuck with him. Thus, it seems that sista's are very particular about the brotha's they date, but are more willing to try a "nice guy" from a different race.
Have any of the brothers on this board witnessed this phenomenon? Or am I just bugging![]()
You describe 2 extremities.
Then you conclude:
"Solution: Never get married. Keep your options open. "
WTF happened to everyone in the 50 range?
For every range you describe for men, it also applies to women.
A 25 range woman may need a 75 range man.
Similarly a 25 range man may need a 75 range woman.
The key is COMPATIBILITY toward some shared goal
If you don't have goals for a relationship, aspiration for where you want a partnership to go then guess where you are going............
NOWHERE no matter how many years pass between you all.
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The 75 range man is still gonna get you set on fire. The 1 range is the biblical standard, not 50 to 75. Anything after 1 the closer and closer you get to insensitivity and bad news drama.

The key is COMPATIBILITY toward some shared goal
If you don't have goals for a relationship, aspiration for where you want a partnership to go then guess where you are going............
NOWHERE no matter how many years pass between you all.
![]()
A lot of lame dudes on this board.
If you can't bag a sista KILL YOURSELF

I am a Black male professional that is the type of man that Black women say they want, but I've been turned down many times. I used to think there was something wrong with me until I talked with my circle of confidantes (who are mostly Black men and women of varying ages) that know me well and are brutally honest with me. We have reviewed the women that I have been attracted to over the years, and the conclusion was that there was nothing wrong with me except I was not seeing early on the red flags a woman may put up that tell you that she is not worth pursuing. I would tend to pursue these types of women, only to get dogged in the process. The women would always say that there were some things that they did not like (they were often bullshit reasons like the "too nice" thing (hey, my parents taught me how to treat a woman, so I'm not gonna deviate from that), the "swagger" thing (which is a term that is so overused and played out these days), etc.) Many of these women were very opinionated, but did not allow me to have an opinion. Many of them expected me to do all the changing, but did not feel that they had to change a thing. Many of them were superficial in terms of material possessions, money, looks, etc. Many of these women ended up in relationships with men that were "thuggish" in their behavior, or had money, "swagger", status, etc., but the one thing that was lacking was mutual love and respect in their future relationships...they may appear happy, but down inside, they really weren't. Many of these women did not have adequate male role models in their lives, so they didn't learn how to be loved and respected in a relationship, and many learned early on to "use what they've got to get what they want". The women in question were in the 25-45 age range.
Thanks to my circle of confidantes, I have come to realize that many Black women make life difficult for themselves and the men they want, and the men who want them. Granted, there are some non-desirable men, but there are an underestimated number of undesirable women as well. I still hold out hope that there will be a Sister that I will be compatible with (no, I have not given up yet, but I have come damn close), but I will no longer accept the entire blame if a woman is not attracted to me. I have learned to see that they are missing out on the fullness of spirit and individuality that I possess (that's not being cocky - we all have it, but many of us go a lifetime without actually realizing it fully, if at all). I will, however, hold up my responsibility by being the best person that I can, and by doing that, I will eventually attract someone who does not have negativity within themselves, which was what I had been doing for far too long.
basically....
*sniff
*sniff
[WHINE]nobody likes me[/WHINE]






Ok, I'll just make it clear as to what the problem and solution is...
Imagine a scale, you have Poindexter all around good guy, pure in morals pure in motive amazingly sensitive in feelings and never violent. He's a 1.
Next you have Jamal Jenkins, aka "Black" hardcore thug, gangster, drug dealer, don't give a fuck about shit and has no qualms about throwing a female from a moving car should she act up or refuse to give up the pussy. He's a 100. All men fall in between 2 to 99.
When Poindexter leaves the toilet seat up, he gets yelled at in front of his friends, family or has water thrown on him in the middle of the night because his girl fell in. He will adjust and try to remember to leave the toilet seat down but because his girl was able to get away with acting stank, she will continue to do so on any issue. Hence, she will eventually lose respect for him.
Jamal Jenkins leaves the toilet seat up without even caring if its an issue and if his girl raises stank, she knows he will shove her face in that same said toilet. She doesn't want to call the police because he's hustling in the home and she'll go to jail too.
Therefore Jamal Jenkins automatically recieves a higher level of respect over Poindexter and is never challenged. Hence, Poindexter walks on eggshells to his girl, Jamal Jenkins walks on water to his girl.
Solution: Never get married. Keep your options open. Make sure you're in a situation where you can kick your girl out the house anytime you please(keep her off the lease, etc) and she wont act shitty when she knows she has to leave if she doesn't please you.
Whats unfortunate, most sisters can only respect a man thats 85+ on that scale despite wanting a good guy all the way down to Poindexter.

Great point. One of the most interesting phenomena that I have realized with a few black woman corresponds to the scale you mentioned and towards the concept of "swagga" and cool. What I have found is that some black woman (b/c I haven't met all black woman) are more accepting and will date a pointdextor or cat with little to no "swagga" if that person is not a black guy. But if a black guy exhibits characteristics of an all around "nice guy" or is on your scale from 1-85 chances are a sista will not fuck with him. Thus, it seems that sista's are very particular about the brotha's they date, but are more willing to try a "nice guy" from a different race.
Have any of the brothers on this board witnessed this phenomenon? Or am I just bugging![]()
You're gonna continue to be shitted on cuz ur a punk bitch, and you need to realize that. Women DO NOT like that. All that "my momma taught me how to treat a women, I'll never deviate from that" shit needs to stop. Get real. Women like a challenge just like any other human being, quit being a bitch push-over. Stop over-respecting women. When ur dating a women get other womens numbers, talk, get out there, thats the only way you'll gain some respect. And quit getting your feelings tied up in these bitches, act in the laws of abundance, just like women do, thats why she's not sweating you. Women adhere to the laws of abundance when it comes to dick, dick practically falls out of the sky, you need to act as if pussy falls from the sky and not sweat her pussy. C'mon man, man up.

it's usually because "ghetto broads" end up looking stupid or feeling uncomfortable out of their element and they know it.
Yup! I am telling you. Ghetto broads cannot stand me, but I am cool with that. They always hit me with that "Oh, you think you better than somebody" BS.
Timeout.
Same here, especially when I'm with my girl out in public. These ghetto trash with vagina's feel obligated to let us know that they disaprove of our mixed relationship.