If black women dont want you it's you...or is it?

A lot of lame dudes on this board.


If you can't bag a sista KILL YOURSELF:smh::hmm:

Dont think anyone is complaining that they can't bag a sista.

But what you have to understand.....it's not just what i want. It's i want someone that i want and also appreciates what i have to offer.

If a lot of people qualify for you and you qualify for a lot then you're going to have a big problem.

Wait i dont think he heard me.

I said: If a lot of people qualify for you and you qualify for a lot then you're going to have a big problem.

back in session
 
Let me get back to the subject that spawned the question.

If there is something with every man that a woman don't want, shouldn't there be a whole lot with women, (the Tough Love women in general), that men don't want? Whatever rule you can apply to men, you can apply to women- the rules of relationships knows no bounds or gender.

:confused:
 
You fools continue dissing black women when there are far worst women out there like Whites and Asians who act white. In my opinion white women are more disrespectful and rude then black women. Black women just have attitudes because of the shit they have to deal with.

You'e an idiot if you believe any of this.
 
You'e an idiot if you believe any of this.

I just broke rule number one by replying to you however, I shall continue. I have had plenty of experiences with other races of women and I have never been disrespected by a black female like I got from White/Asian/Hispanic females.



This is the thing, black women are rude to you because yeah they are rude and blunt. The others are rude with racial tension behind it but who are you for me to argue with? you probably married a white girl or you're a cac yourself trying to stir shit up. Go to stormfront.
 
I just broke rule number one by replying to you however, I shall continue. I have had plenty of experiences with other races of women and I have never been disrespected by a black female like I got from White/Asian/Hispanic females.

First of all, I'm going to call bullshit on your statement right now for the simple fact that...

1. if you constantly dated women who constantly disrespected you then somethings wrong with you

and

2. if you say you weren't constantly being disrespected because you didn't date outside your race that many times, then that means you didn't date enough white Hispanic/Asian females to know what you're talking about.

So either way you're lying.

This is the thing, black women are rude to you because yeah they are rude and blunt.
No they're fucking disrespectful. You can be blunt without being disrespectful. Proof of that is when they are chasing thugs, badboys, whatever, they all of a sudden know how to show respect. They'll be blunt but respectful.

But if you're not in the thug or badboy vibe, they then automatically think you're a simp and go the rude route.


The others are rude with racial tension behind it but who are you for me to argue with?
Again bullshit. If a female of another race is already racially color blind enough to get with you, then chances are there is no racial tension behind their statements towards you. Chances are you're racist and you're reading more into their statements than are really there. Again, otherwise they wouldn't have dated you in the first place.

you probably married a white girl or you're a cac yourself trying to stir shit up.
No but you're a simp-trick lying to get points with the busted baby mamas on the board.

Go to stormfront.
Go slurp ya mom's piss.
 
The issue isn't getting woman to want you.

The issue is what you have to do or become to get them to want you.

Once you accept you have to be either a asshole, a baller, or reach a certain status. Getting them will be easy. But it kind of pisses you off in the process.
 
First of all, I'm going to call bullshit on your statement right now for the simple fact that...

1. if you constantly dated women who constantly disrespected you then somethings wrong with you

and

2. if you say you weren't constantly being disrespected because you didn't date outside your race that many times, then that means you didn't date enough white Hispanic/Asian females to know what you're talking about.

So either way you're lying.

No they're fucking disrespectful. You can be blunt without being disrespectful. Proof of that is when they are chasing thugs, badboys, whatever, they all of a sudden know how to show respect. They'll be blunt but respectful.

But if you're not in the thug or badboy vibe, they then automatically think you're a simp and go the rude route.


Again bullshit. If a female of another race is already racially color blind enough to get with you, then chances are there is no racial tension behind their statements towards you. Chances are you're racist and you're reading more into their statements than are really their. Again otherwise they wouldn't have dated you in the first place.

No but you're a simp-trick lying to get points with the busted baby mamas on the board.

Go slurp ya mom's piss.


It's sad that you actually took the time to type all of that bullshit like it's going to change my opinion. You most feel real intelligent. Unfortunately, you're still an idiot with 8 screen names. :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
On BGOL when a woman says she can't find a good man it's cuz she never made the right choices but when a man says he can't find any good black women it's cuz there are none:rolleyes: Hypocrites

Nothing hypocritical about it.

You got a bunch of women who could get good men if they wanted, but chose to go for the assholes who are "more exciting."

And men can't find good women because they've all been
1. chasing thug john and his friends,
2. have had his kids,
3. are old or are out of shape.

In other words...

when they were good, they didn't want decent dudes,
and now that they are used, decent dudes don't want them.

Simple cause and effect.

No hypocracy at all babes.
 
On BGOL when a woman says she can't find a good man it's cuz she never made the right choices but when a man says he can't find any good black women it's cuz there are none:rolleyes: Hypocrites

Not that I've seen anyone say that, but that's probably because despite what men try to claim, men are CHOSEN by women in a majority of the cases. A woman chooses to let a man fuck/date her.

Something I learned rather quickly in my early 20's...


1.There are a lot of women that will never like my black ass.:hmm:


2. There are a lot of women that will always like my black ass.:hmm:


Fuck those in group 1 figuratively...

Fuck those in group 2 litterally...


Getting mad cause a broad don't "like" you is a wasted emotion and making her like you is worse.... Unless you running for office save "swaying voters" for the politicians.:hmm:

*two cents*

Double down on this shit here. :yes:

So either way you're lying.

Basically.
 
It's sad that you actually took the time to type all of that bullshit like it's going to change my opinion. You most feel real intelligent. Unfortunately, you're still an idiot with 8 screen names. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Damn!!! :eek: I must have struck real close to home. :lol::lol:

I didn't mean to hurt your feelings with the truth. But you needed to hear it. :yes: :yes:

My points still stand...

1. You're a liar, and I called you on it.

2. You're still an idiot if you believe any of what you wrote, and you've already illustrated that you are.

3. and now you're outed yourself, you're projecting. You obviously have multiple screen names, because only an idiot would come up with the concept of eight screen names.

The rest of us only need one screen name.

So what's your other 7 screen names you idiot??? Do tell.
 
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this is fuckin hysterical lol
 
Something I learned rather quickly in my early 20's...


1.There are a lot of women that will never like my black ass.:hmm:


2. There are a lot of women that will always like my black ass.:hmm:


Fuck those in group 1 figuratively...

Fuck those in group 2 litterally...


Getting mad cause a broad don't "like" you is a wasted emotion and making her like you is worse.... Unless you running for office save "swaying voters" for the politicians.:hmm:

*two cents*

:yes: Yup. Word!
 
I am a Black male professional that is the type of man that Black women say they want, but I've been turned down many times. I used to think there was something wrong with me until I talked with my circle of confidantes (who are mostly Black men and women of varying ages) that know me well and are brutally honest with me. We have reviewed the women that I have been attracted to over the years, and the conclusion was that there was nothing wrong with me except I was not seeing early on the red flags a woman may put up that tell you that she is not worth pursuing. I would tend to pursue these types of women, only to get dogged in the process. The women would always say that there were some things that they did not like (they were often bullshit reasons like the "too nice" thing (hey, my parents taught me how to treat a woman, so I'm not gonna deviate from that), the "swagger" thing (which is a term that is so overused and played out these days), etc.) Many of these women were very opinionated, but did not allow me to have an opinion. Many of them expected me to do all the changing, but did not feel that they had to change a thing. Many of them were superficial in terms of material possessions, money, looks, etc. Many of these women ended up in relationships with men that were "thuggish" in their behavior, or had money, "swagger", status, etc., but the one thing that was lacking was mutual love and respect in their future relationships...they may appear happy, but down inside, they really weren't. Many of these women did not have adequate male role models in their lives, so they didn't learn how to be loved and respected in a relationship, and many learned early on to "use what they've got to get what they want". The women in question were in the 25-45 age range.

Thanks to my circle of confidantes, I have come to realize that many Black women make life difficult for themselves and the men they want, and the men who want them. Granted, there are some non-desirable men, but there are an underestimated number of undesirable women as well. I still hold out hope that there will be a Sister that I will be compatible with (no, I have not given up yet, but I have come damn close), but I will no longer accept the entire blame if a woman is not attracted to me. I have learned to see that they are missing out on the fullness of spirit and individuality that I possess (that's not being cocky - we all have it, but many of us go a lifetime without actually realizing it fully, if at all). I will, however, hold up my responsibility by being the best person that I can, and by doing that, I will eventually attract someone who does not have negativity within themselves, which was what I had been doing for far too long.
 
Let me get back to the subject that spawned the question.

If there is something with every man that a woman don't want, shouldn't there be a whole lot with women, (the Tough Love women in general), that men don't want? Whatever rule you can apply to men, you can apply to women- the rules of relationships knows no bounds or gender.

Basically you get in where you fit in.
 
I am a Black male professional that is the type of man that Black women say they want, but I've been turned down many times. I used to think there was something wrong with me until I talked with my circle of confidantes (who are mostly Black men and women of varying ages) that know me well and are brutally honest with me. We have reviewed the women that I have been attracted to over the years, and the conclusion was that there was nothing wrong with me except I was not seeing early on the red flags a woman may put up that tell you that she is not worth pursuing. I would tend to pursue these types of women, only to get dogged in the process. The women would always say that there were some things that they did not like (they were often bullshit reasons like the "too nice" thing (hey, my parents taught me how to treat a woman, so I'm not gonna deviate from that), the "swagger" thing (which is a term that is so overused and played out these days), etc.) Many of these women were very opinionated, but did not allow me to have an opinion. Many of them expected me to do all the changing, but did not feel that they had to change a thing. Many of them were superficial in terms of material possessions, money, looks, etc. Many of these women ended up in relationships with men that were "thuggish" in their behavior, or had money, "swagger", status, etc., but the one thing that was lacking was mutual love and respect in their future relationships...they may appear happy, but down inside, they really weren't. Many of these women did not have adequate male role models in their lives, so they didn't learn how to be loved and respected in a relationship, and many learned early on to "use what they've got to get what they want". The women in question were in the 25-45 age range.

Thanks to my circle of confidantes, I have come to realize that many Black women make life difficult for themselves and the men they want, and the men who want them. Granted, there are some non-desirable men, but there are an underestimated number of undesirable women as well. I still hold out hope that there will be a Sister that I will be compatible with (no, I have not given up yet, but I have come damn close), but I will no longer accept the entire blame if a woman is not attracted to me. I have learned to see that they are missing out on the fullness of spirit and individuality that I possess (that's not being cocky - we all have it, but many of us go a lifetime without actually realizing it fully, if at all). I will, however, hold up my responsibility by being the best person that I can, and by doing that, I will eventually attract someone who does not have negativity within themselves, which was what I had been doing for far too long.

Topic closed...you nailed it. You just related some honest feelings and situations that I have delt with. But thank God I don't deal with those kinds of women or situations anymore. I found the woman that I plan on marrying. Thank you so much for posting this.
 
Topic closed...you nailed it. You just related some honest feelings and situations that I have delt with. But thank God I don't deal with those kinds of women or situations anymore. I found the woman that I plan on marrying. Thank you so much for posting this.


You're welcome...I'm glad you got something out of posting this, but I also hope you read the part about me not giving up on the Sistas. Nevertheless, I am happy you have found the one that you're happy with...just don't dis those that haven't yet (see my response to you in another thread). Peace to you and yours...
 
I am a Black male professional that is the type of man that Black women say they want, but I've been turned down many times. I used to think there was something wrong with me until I talked with my circle of confidantes (who are mostly Black men and women of varying ages) that know me well and are brutally honest with me. We have reviewed the women that I have been attracted to over the years, and the conclusion was that there was nothing wrong with me except I was not seeing early on the red flags a woman may put up that tell you that she is not worth pursuing. I would tend to pursue these types of women, only to get dogged in the process. The women would always say that there were some things that they did not like (they were often bullshit reasons like the "too nice" thing (hey, my parents taught me how to treat a woman, so I'm not gonna deviate from that), the "swagger" thing (which is a term that is so overused and played out these days), etc.) Many of these women were very opinionated, but did not allow me to have an opinion. Many of them expected me to do all the changing, but did not feel that they had to change a thing. Many of them were superficial in terms of material possessions, money, looks, etc. Many of these women ended up in relationships with men that were "thuggish" in their behavior, or had money, "swagger", status, etc., but the one thing that was lacking was mutual love and respect in their future relationships...they may appear happy, but down inside, they really weren't. Many of these women did not have adequate male role models in their lives, so they didn't learn how to be loved and respected in a relationship, and many learned early on to "use what they've got to get what they want". The women in question were in the 25-45 age range.

Thanks to my circle of confidantes, I have come to realize that many Black women make life difficult for themselves and the men they want, and the men who want them. Granted, there are some non-desirable men, but there are an underestimated number of undesirable women as well. I still hold out hope that there will be a Sister that I will be compatible with (no, I have not given up yet, but I have come damn close), but I will no longer accept the entire blame if a woman is not attracted to me. I have learned to see that they are missing out on the fullness of spirit and individuality that I possess (that's not being cocky - we all have it, but many of us go a lifetime without actually realizing it fully, if at all). I will, however, hold up my responsibility by being the best person that I can, and by doing that, I will eventually attract someone who does not have negativity within themselves, which was what I had been doing for far too long.

So you don't believe the statement "if women aren't attracted to you maybe it's you" :rolleyes:
 
First of all, I'm going to call bullshit on your statement right now for the simple fact that...

1. if you constantly dated women who constantly disrespected you then somethings wrong with you

and

2. if you say you weren't constantly being disrespected because you didn't date outside your race that many times, then that means you didn't date enough white Hispanic/Asian females to know what you're talking about.

So either way you're lying.

No they're fucking disrespectful. You can be blunt without being disrespectful. Proof of that is when they are chasing thugs, badboys, whatever, they all of a sudden know how to show respect. They'll be blunt but respectful.

But if you're not in the thug or badboy vibe, they then automatically think you're a simp and go the rude route.


Again bullshit. If a female of another race is already racially color blind enough to get with you, then chances are there is no racial tension behind their statements towards you. Chances are you're racist and you're reading more into their statements than are really there. Again, otherwise they wouldn't have dated you in the first place.

No but you're a simp-trick lying to get points with the busted baby mamas on the board.

Go slurp ya mom's piss.

:yes::smh:
 
You fools continue dissing black women when there are far worst women out there like Whites and Asians who act white. In my opinion white women are more disrespectful and rude then black women. Black women just have attitudes because of the shit they have to deal with.

what shit do they have to deal with? enlighten us....
 
So you don't believe the statement "if women aren't attracted to you maybe it's you" :rolleyes:

Reading is fundamental, my brother...

but if you're Colin challenged, I'll break it down for ya...:D

It's not all me...and I'm never gonna say that my shit is so correct, that I have no flaws...[Steven A Smith voice] HOWEVA...if you are coming at a woman in a positive manner, and she's not in a positive space, she is not gonna accept you...and the women that it didn't work out with usually had some issues that they refused to acknowledge them...

It is rarely one individual...it could be a number of factors...
 
Ya "it's you" but that isn't always a bad thing...if you know you a good dude and certain types of chics ain't feeling you they actually doing you a favor...
 
Reading is fundamental, my brother...

but if you're Colin challenged, I'll break it down for ya...:D

It's not all me...and I'm never gonna say that my shit is so correct, that I have no flaws...[Steven A Smith voice] HOWEVA...if you are coming at a woman in a positive manner, and she's not in a positive space, she is not gonna accept you...and the women that it didn't work out with usually had some issues that they refused to acknowledge them...

It is rarely one individual...it could be a number of factors...

How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

Ya "it's you" but that isn't always a bad thing...if you know you a good dude and certain types of chics ain't feeling you they actually doing you a favor...

Exactly, I avoid those kind of women with the quickness... and they'll be the same ones crying (on message boards especially) they can't find a good man. :lol:
 
Reading is fundamental, my brother...

but if you're Colin challenged, I'll break it down for ya...:D

It's not all me...and I'm never gonna say that my shit is so correct, that I have no flaws...[Steven A Smith voice] HOWEVA...if you are coming at a woman in a positive manner, and she's not in a positive space, she is not gonna accept you...and the women that it didn't work out with usually had some issues that they refused to acknowledge them...

It is rarely one individual...it could be a number of factors...

So is interpreting sarcasm :hmm:
 
Ya "it's you" but that isn't always a bad thing...if you know you a good dude and certain types of chics ain't feeling you they actually doing you a favor...

sometimes i agree....sometimes these bitches act like they got potential and you find out they just bitches that have nothing better to do then waste your time and try to build their self esteem from you.

Talked to a few chicks that seemed ok (staying in detroit you really have to lower your standars to women no joke). But they just was into playing games. If they reject me right away that's when they do me the favor....when they string me along...ugh.

But i can't complain much because in detroit if you have a car, decent looks and apartment you have the key to bitches pussy. It's a lot of chicks stuck in the house with nothing to do after 5:30PM because it's getting dark early now and they have no fucking car.
 
You fools continue dissing black women when there are far worst women out there like Whites and Asians who act white. In my opinion white women are more disrespectful and rude then black women. Black women just have attitudes because of the shit they have to deal with.

Let me see, I know I fucked with all types of women, maybe 10 or more asians, 2 mexicans, 30+ black women, 200+ white girls. Its black women who I've dogded bullets, its black women who don't use birth control, its black women who had dudes banging on my door at 2am, its black women who had me at gunpoint only to turn around and laugh at me about it, its black women who got pregnant and also lied about pregnancy, its black women who've stolen from me, its black women who have called the police on me saying I hit her, its black women who are running their mouths about he said/she said bullshit specifically about what they claim I do in the bedroom, its black women who called another black woman to say I'm their trick and I have a whole lot more. All I got to say is they're on another level of bullshit but that ass is undeniable.
 
Let me see, I know I fucked with all types of women, maybe 10 or more asians, 2 mexicans, 30+ black women, 200+ white girls. Its black women who I've dogded bullets, its black women who don't use birth control, its black women who had dudes banging on my door at 2am, its black women who had me at gunpoint only to turn around and laugh at me about it, its black women who got pregnant and also lied about pregnancy, its black women who've stolen from me, its black women who have called the police on me saying I hit her, its black women who are running their mouths about he said/she said bullshit specifically about what they claim I do in the bedroom, its black women who called another black woman to say I'm their trick and I have a whole lot more. All I got to say is they're on another level of bullshit but that ass is undeniable.


Maybe it's you. You have to find out what it is about you that attract black women that like to do those things. :rolleyes:
 
This is a thinking thread that requires about 120 points of I.Q so i thought i'd give you a fair warning.


I'd first like to quote a BGOL member visionpoet* who represents what a lot of people believe.

" it amazes me how people can allow any of their focus on the bad examples and let that be their example for the whole.

If womEn don't want you, it's YOU. There's something you're giving off that makes her not want you. If women constantly come at your neck or cheat on you, it's YOU. People in general like to test boundaries. People will generally do what you allow them to do.

I'm sorry, but black women can't destroy me. I (keyword "I") won't allow it. I surround myself with nothing but queens and positive folks in general. If you keep doing the same thing and expecting different results...
"
A lot of people act like if you get rejected by women a lot it's that you aren't any good. I get rejected a lot amongest younger women 19-24....but also i really dont like those women either. Well if i do i like them for the wrong reasons like "ass, titties, smile". Whenever i like a woman for her personality and her intelgence i never get rejected in the long run.

But back to topic....
And i was just watching the VH1 T.V. show tough love. There are plenty of men that those girls dont want. A lot of men that they wouldn't give the time of day. And there are plenty of women like this in the single dating field. Made me think what is it about the men that they dont want....

The question of the hour is: at what point should one look at his/herself and try to refor

And how do you go about finding what it is that isn't allowing you to get women?

Why do people insest that it's you that have personal problems and not the women you're approaching?
And how would one know if it is them that's the problem or perhaps the women they are approaching?

To answer ya question...I'm sorry but if woman after woman after woman is dissin yo ass then its probably you... usually after the third rejection its back to the lab wit you and figure out the problem.
 
Let me see, I know I fucked with all types of women, maybe 10 or more asians, 2 mexicans, 30+ black women, 200+ white girls. Its black women who I've dogded bullets, its black women who don't use birth control, its black women who had dudes banging on my door at 2am, its black women who had me at gunpoint only to turn around and laugh at me about it, its black women who got pregnant and also lied about pregnancy, its black women who've stolen from me, its black women who have called the police on me saying I hit her, its black women who are running their mouths about he said/she said bullshit specifically about what they claim I do in the bedroom, its black women who called another black woman to say I'm their trick and I have a whole lot more. All I got to say is they're on another level of bullshit but that ass is undeniable.


My advice would be to stick to white girls, that seems to be your preference based on the numbers you put up


:cool:
 
Let me see, I know I fucked with all types of women, maybe 10 or more asians, 2 mexicans, 30+ black women, 200+ white girls. Its black women who I've dogded bullets, its black women who don't use birth control, its black women who had dudes banging on my door at 2am, its black women who had me at gunpoint only to turn around and laugh at me about it, its black women who got pregnant and also lied about pregnancy, its black women who've stolen from me, its black women who have called the police on me saying I hit her, its black women who are running their mouths about he said/she said bullshit specifically about what they claim I do in the bedroom, its black women who called another black woman to say I'm their trick and I have a whole lot more. All I got to say is they're on another level of bullshit but that ass is undeniable.

DAMN
 
Nothing hypocritical about it.

You got a bunch of women who could get good men if they wanted, but chose to go for the assholes who are "more exciting."

And men can't find good women because they've all been
1. chasing thug john and his friends,
2. have had his kids,
3. are old or are out of shape.

In other words...

when they were good, they didn't want decent dudes,
and now that they are used, decent dudes don't want them.

Simple cause and effect.

No hypocracy at all babes.

I am a Black male professional that is the type of man that Black women say they want, but I've been turned down many times. I used to think there was something wrong with me until I talked with my circle of confidantes (who are mostly Black men and women of varying ages) that know me well and are brutally honest with me. We have reviewed the women that I have been attracted to over the years, and the conclusion was that there was nothing wrong with me except I was not seeing early on the red flags a woman may put up that tell you that she is not worth pursuing. I would tend to pursue these types of women, only to get dogged in the process. The women would always say that there were some things that they did not like (they were often bullshit reasons like the "too nice" thing (hey, my parents taught me how to treat a woman, so I'm not gonna deviate from that), the "swagger" thing (which is a term that is so overused and played out these days), etc.) Many of these women were very opinionated, but did not allow me to have an opinion. Many of them expected me to do all the changing, but did not feel that they had to change a thing. Many of them were superficial in terms of material possessions, money, looks, etc. Many of these women ended up in relationships with men that were "thuggish" in their behavior, or had money, "swagger", status, etc., but the one thing that was lacking was mutual love and respect in their future relationships...they may appear happy, but down inside, they really weren't. Many of these women did not have adequate male role models in their lives, so they didn't learn how to be loved and respected in a relationship, and many learned early on to "use what they've got to get what they want". The women in question were in the 25-45 age range.

Thanks to my circle of confidantes, I have come to realize that many Black women make life difficult for themselves and the men they want, and the men who want them. Granted, there are some non-desirable men, but there are an underestimated number of undesirable women as well. I still hold out hope that there will be a Sister that I will be compatible with (no, I have not given up yet, but I have come damn close), but I will no longer accept the entire blame if a woman is not attracted to me. I have learned to see that they are missing out on the fullness of spirit and individuality that I possess (that's not being cocky - we all have it, but many of us go a lifetime without actually realizing it fully, if at all). I will, however, hold up my responsibility by being the best person that I can, and by doing that, I will eventually attract someone who does not have negativity within themselves, which was what I had been doing for far too long.

..../
 
How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

I'm not sure why you're asking me this question...not being defensive, but I hope that it is not going to be a dig at my age and maturity level...let's just say old enough to have seen a lot of bullshit...but young enough to still have hope...
 
I'm not sure why you're asking me this question...not being defensive, but I hope that it is not going to be a dig at my age and maturity level...let's just say old enough to have seen a lot of bullshit...but young enough to still have hope...

I would never ask someone their age to have a dig at them. I was just curious, that's all.
 
Let me see, I know I fucked with all types of women, maybe 10 or more asians, 2 mexicans, 30+ black women, 200+ white girls. Its black women who I've dogded bullets, its black women who don't use birth control, its black women who had dudes banging on my door at 2am, its black women who had me at gunpoint only to turn around and laugh at me about it, its black women who got pregnant and also lied about pregnancy, its black women who've stolen from me, its black women who have called the police on me saying I hit her, its black women who are running their mouths about he said/she said bullshit specifically about what they claim I do in the bedroom, its black women who called another black woman to say I'm their trick and I have a whole lot more. All I got to say is they're on another level of bullshit but that ass is undeniable.

I must say you are on point with the bolded.
 
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