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Sometimes the true meaning of phrases get lost in translation.
Yeah I know that all too well
Someone just made a point on narutofan forum that Madara is manipulation Sasuke into using his mangekyou sharigan to speed the process of losing his eye sight. Very well could be true with all the damn chakra Sauske magically has now
You know... that actually makes sense. Remember karin is sensing a chakra that wasn't sasukes. It could have been mandara manipulating from afar. Kakashi has something called the hypnotic eye that can control an opponents movements. Maybe mandara can do the same thing but it a little stronger. Of course this could all the bullshit but this would piss me off a lot less than sasuke magically regaining his chakra due to Kishimoto's gay love with sasuke.
Hey guys the other chapter is out, wasn't too bad of a read here's the link for those interested http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/464/01/ guess we'll still have to wait to see what magical art he pulls out now
gaara back with the sand like he never lost a beat... im glad dude cleared that up finally...
Now why i kishi have to go and make gaara cry...
Yeah... that part did not make any sense.
I guess he wants to take the toughness out of certain characters to make Sasuke look even cooler. Next thing you know we will see Kakashi cry b/c Sasuke found more uses for his Chidori. 
Yeah... that part did not make any sense.
yall already know how I feel about it
Yeah... that part did not make any sense.
People are overly emotional in this shit, there's been more dudes crying in the manga than chicks.
People are overly emotional in this shit, there's been more dudes crying in the manga than chicks.
Its because the chicks get no screen time. If they are crying we will never see it.
Really funny B, really funny !
My Will of Fire Theory.
The Will of Fire is a set of beliefs that the Sage of 6 Paths entrusted to two boys in order to bring peace to the world as said in Naruto 462 Page 12
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/462/12/
The Will of Fire is the most powerful force in the manga.
Even though its the most powerful force, it is not the most powerful ability. The Rinnegan is.
This is why the chain-of-command in the power structure of this manga will always be like this:
The Sage of 6 Paths > Younger Son/The First Senju > Older Son/The First Uchiha
1st Hokage Hashirama/Leader of the Senju Clan > Madara/Leader of the Uchiha Clan
Pein > Naruto > Sasuke > The Five Kages.
Rinnegan > Will of Fire > Sharingan > Everything else.
The Sage of the Six Paths entrusted the Will of Fire to the younger son.
Now I know some of you are wondering why I put Pein ahead of Naruto in the power structure but I will explain. Naruto won the battle because of his Will of Fire.
As far as an actual all-out physical fight goes, there was no clear decisive winner because Naruto made Nagato change his mind about capturing Naruto and accepted Naruto's beliefs before they could finish the fight.
Naruto basically converted Nagato by enfusing him with his Will of Fire.
If not for Naruto's Will of Fire, I believe Pein would've won. Pein still had other techniques up his sleeve like the Demon Statue that takes the souls of anything it touches.
Considering his lineage, Pein's abilities were underdeveloped by the time he sacrificed himself to bring the residents of Konoha back to life. BUT if you consider the backstory of the first Sage, his sacrifice makes perfect sense because the first Sage entrusted the Will of Fire to the younger boy, the ancestor of the Senju Clan (whose ancestors reside in Konoha).
Part of what made the 3rd Hokage and Orochimaru so great was because they tried to learn all of the techniques (techniques that all originated from The Sage of Six Paths).
Unfortunately, due to Orochimaru's damaged emotional state as an orphan and his personality, the Will of Fire did not pass down to him. Orochimaru was too caught up in trying to obtain immortality, obsessed with possessing those with Kekkai Genkais (after seeing Itachi Uchiha in action), developing Curse Seals and cloning the First Hokage instead of looking within himself as his own source of power. The 3rd eventually realized that Orochimaru, powerful as he was, lacked the Will of Fire and entrusted it to the Fourth (who had it in spades as you can tell from the Kakashi Gaiden).
Once you look at the manga from a Will of Fire viewpoint it starts looking less like Dragon Ball Z (like some people keep trying to compare it to).
The power distribution was really uneven in DBZ but in Naruto, it makes sense.
History repeats itself throughout the manga beginning with the Sage of Six Paths and the two boys.
The Younger Boy (Will of Fire) > The Older Boy (Corrupted by Power)
Hashirama the Senju Clan Leader (Will of Fire) > Madara the Uchiha Clan Leader (Corrupted by Power)
The Fourth Hokage (Will of Fire) > Orochimaru (Corrupted by Power)
Naruto (Will of Fire) > Sasuke (Corrupted by Power)
The Will of Fire is a set of beliefs that the Sage of 6 Paths entrusted to two boys in order to bring peace to the world as said in Naruto 462 Page 12
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/462/12/
The Will of Fire is the most powerful force in the manga.
Even though its the most powerful force, it is not the most powerful ability. The Rinnegan is.
This is why the chain-of-command in the power structure of this manga will always be like this:
The Sage of 6 Paths > Younger Son/The First Senju > Older Son/The First Uchiha
1st Hokage Hashirama/Leader of the Senju Clan > Madara/Leader of the Uchiha Clan
Pein > Naruto > Sasuke > The Five Kages.
Rinnegan > Will of Fire > Sharingan > Everything else.
The Sage of the Six Paths entrusted the Will of Fire to the younger son.
Now I know some of you are wondering why I put Pein ahead of Naruto in the power structure but I will explain. Naruto won the battle because of his Will of Fire.
As far as an actual all-out physical fight goes, there was no clear decisive winner because Naruto made Nagato change his mind about capturing Naruto and accepted Naruto's beliefs before they could finish the fight.
Naruto basically converted Nagato by enfusing him with his Will of Fire.
If not for Naruto's Will of Fire, I believe Pein would've won. Pein still had other techniques up his sleeve like the Demon Statue that takes the souls of anything it touches.
Considering his lineage, Pein's abilities were underdeveloped by the time he sacrificed himself to bring the residents of Konoha back to life. BUT if you consider the backstory of the first Sage, his sacrifice makes perfect sense because the first Sage entrusted the Will of Fire to the younger boy, the ancestor of the Senju Clan (whose ancestors reside in Konoha).
Part of what made the 3rd Hokage and Orochimaru so great was because they tried to learn all of the techniques (techniques that all originated from The Sage of Six Paths).
Unfortunately, due to Orochimaru's damaged emotional state as an orphan and his personality, the Will of Fire did not pass down to him. Orochimaru was too caught up in trying to obtain immortality, obsessed with possessing those with Kekkai Genkais (after seeing Itachi Uchiha in action), developing Curse Seals and cloning the First Hokage instead of looking within himself as his own source of power. The 3rd eventually realized that Orochimaru, powerful as he was, lacked the Will of Fire and entrusted it to the Fourth (who had it in spades as you can tell from the Kakashi Gaiden).
Once you look at the manga from a Will of Fire viewpoint it starts looking less like Dragon Ball Z (like some people keep trying to compare it to).
The power distribution was really uneven in DBZ but in Naruto, it makes sense.
History repeats itself throughout the manga beginning with the Sage of Six Paths and the two boys.
The Younger Boy (Will of Fire) > The Older Boy (Corrupted by Power)
Hashirama the Senju Clan Leader (Will of Fire) > Madara the Uchiha Clan Leader (Corrupted by Power)
The Fourth Hokage (Will of Fire) > Orochimaru (Corrupted by Power)
Naruto (Will of Fire) > Sasuke (Corrupted by Power)
who ever thought sasuke would a major power up in this arc 
Susanoo with flames who didnt see that coming
Speaking of Sasuke why he's he running away like the bitch he is........the only person he fought who wasnt sick/half dead and relevant was Killer Bee and we all know he got his ass kicked by Killer Bee
Now he's fighting with the Mizukage(she got some titties...btw)when is he gonna stop running away...Kishimoto gives Sasuke all these power ups but he runs away...
Dude is fighting 3 Kages and chasing Danzou at the same time.....makes no sense at all..
And Kishimoto just forgot about the whole Hinata thing.......why have her express her love when you isnt gonna do anything about it...Kishimoto left alot of shit since Jiraiya told that toad about the yin/yang chakra
I know Kishimoto's twin brother is shaking his head reading this garbage....I need to read 666 Satan..btw
This gotta be the worst arc in the series
Susanoo with flames who didnt see that coming
Speaking of Sasuke why he's he running away like the bitch he is........the only person he fought who wasnt sick/half dead and relevant was Killer Bee and we all know he got his ass kicked by Killer Bee
Now he's fighting with the Mizukage(she got some titties...btw)when is he gonna stop running away...Kishimoto gives Sasuke all these power ups but he runs away...
Dude is fighting 3 Kages and chasing Danzou at the same time.....makes no sense at all..
And Kishimoto just forgot about the whole Hinata thing.......why have her express her love when you isnt gonna do anything about it...Kishimoto left alot of shit since Jiraiya told that toad about the yin/yang chakra
I know Kishimoto's twin brother is shaking his head reading this garbage....I need to read 666 Satan..btw
This gotta be the worst arc in the series
who ever thought sasuke would a major power up in this arc
Susanoo with flames who didnt see that coming
Speaking of Sasuke why he's he running away like the bitch he is........the only person he fought who wasnt sick/half dead and relevant was Killer Bee and we all know he got his ass kicked by Killer Bee
Now he's fighting with the Mizukage(she got some titties...btw)when is he gonna stop running away...Kishimoto gives Sasuke all these power ups but he runs away...
Dude is fighting 3 Kages and chasing Danzou at the same time.....makes no sense at all..
And Kishimoto just forgot about the whole Hinata thing.......why have her express her love when you isnt gonna do anything about it...Kishimoto left alot of shit since Jiraiya told that toad about the yin/yang chakra
I know Kishimoto's twin brother is shaking his head reading this garbage....I need to read 666 Satan..btw
This gotta be the worst arc in the series
Hopefully this is addressed pretty soon b/c if not, he will have seriously dropped the ball on it. And yeah... this is the worst arc in the series. There is nothing to justify all this manpower against Sasuke alone. Kishimoto has gone full retard...
This is a very good Theory and one which I can agree with, I've been reading over the manga from #1 & through out the manga, you get the sense, of belief in one's self, hard work & determination & nevertheless the Will to never give up, I also got to understand why Naruto's hanging on to Sasuke's nut sack even more & that's owing to his Will & the fact that he never gives up on what he's determined to achieve, my only hope is that Kishi doesn't forget his story & stray to far from it to make his 'character' the actual Hero of the story, but knowing the Japanese Death to them isn't the end per se but an eventual & acceptable goal if it fulfills a 'promise' to an acceptable end! Good Job DJ once again on the Theory
Damnit will someone just stabbed Sasuke in his eyes and get it over with. Gaara and the raikage should hold this mawfucka down while Danzo scoops out his eyes like strawberry ice cream tubs. 
Damnit will someone just stabbed Sasuke in his eyes and get it over with. Gaara and the raikage should hold this mawfucka down while Danzo scoops out his eyes like strawberry ice cream tubs.
Masashi Kishimoto will never do that to his precious Sasuke Uchiha
Masashi Kishimoto will never do that to his precious Sasuke Uchiha
Indeed he won't but this last manga had me
it was like get on with the story already dammit how long do you want to stray on this story, so pretty soon Sasuke's going to be the ultimate Akatsuki & every contry will unite to kill just him, total bullshit, well we'll just have to wait and see !
Indeed he won't but this last manga had me
Yep. Both naruto and bleach are suffering from slow moving plots
The last few chapters of both these mangas have been sub-par.
Shit, the anime filler for bleach is more intersting than both these mangas right now
Yep. Both naruto and bleach are suffering from slow moving plots
The last few chapters of both these mangas have been sub-par.
Shit, the anime filler for bleach is more intersting than both these mangas right now
Bleach, Plot Where?
Yep. Both naruto and bleach are suffering from slow moving plots
The last few chapters of both these mangas have been sub-par.
Shit, the anime filler for bleach is more intersting than both these mangas right now
Atleast Bleach dont allow the main character take a back seat to other characters like Naruto has been doing for over 2 years...Way in the beginning of the manga(Naruto) it was about Naruto wanting to become Hokage and have people acknowledge him every since the Chuunin Arc it changed into the whole Sasuke wanting to get revenge...I mean I know he wanted revenge in the beginning but it wasnt this bad.....
To me if you gonna name your manga after on of your character's atleast focus on him instead of another person...Kishimoto have too many stuff going on at the same time....You got Danzou getting chased by Sasuke,Naruto acting like a bitch,Shikamaru assembling a team to possibly kill Sasuke,The Fifth Hokage in a coma,Madara is somewhere,The Kages trying to stop Sasuke and etc....He is leaving major plot holes in the story I mean bout time the manga finally ends their will be more questions than answers.
Man you say that but Bleach has to draw out like every characters fights. I mean damn they gotta show every captains, assistant captains, vizord , janitors etc etc fight. hell they even showed that fat gay pink vizords fighting
Everyone should of expected that Tite Kubo was gonna show every fight in Bleach......Despite him doing that the story Ichigo still the main character....You cant say the same thing with Naruto
I liked bleach to but i lost interest after the save Rukia arc, but real talk bleach should have been called "Titties and Swords" I'd watch that 
Looks like Madara and co finally came to the rescue.
Hmm quite interesting, so it may be true that Madara may have given Sasuke some of his chakra, hmmm I wonder if Naruto's going to get any further development ah well small thing I guess.
Hmm quite interesting, so it may be true that Madara may have given Sasuke some of his chakra, hmmm I wonder if Naruto's going to get any further development ah well small thing I guess.
From what Im reading from the spoilers Zetsu some how enters the Mizukage's body while she was using some type of acid jutsu...Then Sasuke some how ran out of chakra which he should of done 2 chapters ago...After he falls to the floor Madara saves him after Raikage and Gaara about to enter the area...
It would be nice if Naruto do get some development because Sasuke got all these high powered jutsu not even the Sage Mode and the Wind Rasengan is gonna save him.
I'm wondering Shikamaru's team is assembled yet...I think they need more than one team though to kill Sasuke....imo
I think someone mentioned this before. Is it me or is Sasuke of of the most powerful shinobi next to Madara? Dude even stood his own against 100 mega shock Hulk Hogan err... Raikage.
Naruto needs some development... like go into him at least thinking about what Hinata said to him. Start to question, "Okay... if I know I have a father who happens to be the 4th, who is my mom & what does she know?" And most importanly have him stop taking shit (beatdowns & boo wooing over Sasuke). Fucking Kishimoto...
I think someone mentioned this before. Is it me or is Sasuke of of the most powerful shinobi next to Madara? Dude even stood his own against 100 mega shock Hulk Hogan err... Raikage.
Naruto needs some development... like go into him at least thinking about what Hinata said to him. Start to question, "Okay... if I know I have a father who happens to be the 4th, who is my mom & what does she know?" And most importanly have him stop taking shit (beatdowns & boo wooing over Sasuke). Fucking Kishimoto...
Someone need to teach Naruto some of his dad's jutsu's....I know Jiraiya taught him Rasengan but It would be nice if he learned that Teleportation one
Just wow at that link
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