Actually I am. I add in were im knowledgeable and if Im not I enjoy the enlightenment. Im just pointing out the fact that you cant clown someone for basically the same thing you are doing. Im not the spelling police and never point out the million examples of spelling errors I see on here. And to be honest some of yours clearly were not typos but words you flat out spelled wrong.
Ten things the north can do to be relevant again.
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Actually I am. I add in were im knowledgeable and if Im not I enjoy the enlightenment. Im just pointing out the fact that you cant clown someone for basically the same thing you are doing. Im not the spelling police and never point out the million examples of spelling errors I see on here. And to be honest some of yours clearly were not typos but words you flat out spelled wrong.
Damn! I cant think of any. Yall niggas lost. Take your L like men and stop whining. Niggas like Budden and MF Doom have no charisma or appeal and never will blow. Nobody likes that boring ass backpack shit.Better hope Hov raps till hes 60.
the fact that cats like you always have the north coming out of your mouth and always on your your mind keeps us relevant. the reason you think we are not relevant is cause you listen to and like the garbage cookie cutter rap that 85% of the fake ass rappers from the south put out. make no mistake southern rap on a whole is garbage and true hip hop heads laugh at you guys. those of you that do get it, have our respect. but you sir are a clown, and i know you wish your backwards ass where from the north.
c/s. and
@ dude who said we actin like them south cats took our "bitches"..... fuck outta here. everybody and they momma know that when ny niggaz take the i95 we got bitches jockin us. we bag ya'll bitches
Well really this thread is a response to a thread created by a NY cat. I have no problem with NY. Yall the hatin ass niggas jealous of the south's takeover. And by true hip-hop head you mean backpacker? Yall MF DOOM type cats are underground for a reason. Thats shit is trash. Yall musty ass broke backpackers are the clowns. Niggas rappin bout spaceships and dinosaurs and shit. Lookin all dingy and shit. GTFOH.
Let me say this. NY has never been popular at rap. Think about it. Besides Big and Jay-Z and 50 Cent (Puffy if you want to count him) all of the really MAJOR hip-hop acts have always come from other regions since Public Enemy fell off (Late 80's early 90's).
Of course I'm a hip-hop fiend so I know the Naughty's, Wu's, Rakim's, Nas', etc... but they have never sold anywhere near as many albums as your Hammer's (Oakland), Eminem's (Detroit), Nelly's (St. Louis), Outkast's (Atlanta) Snoop and Dre's (Cali) or hell even back in the day your 2 Live Crew and Luke (Miami).
The one thing NY needs to do to get back on top is just accept that the best shit they do is NOT GOING TO BE POPULAR! Em has a NY flow and has made it popular and Outkast speaks on issues all the time so it's not intellect that is holding NY back. It's just you niggas ain't popular with how you do your best shit. So if you stop trying to do what's popular and do what you do best you will be back.
But you won't so this is a waste!
C/S.
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Misspelling words and and thinking like a moron are two different things, you can spell check words but there is no help for the kats who think like retardants!
By the way I type very fast, so in case you haven't noticed sometimes typos happen when you are typing fast! The bottom line if you type as much as I do, as fast as I do, without a editor, there are bounds to be some typos!
If you gonna get after me, on BGOL, do so with the facts or try challenging my sense of logic, cause in this non-structured informal forum, what you have to say is more important than how its formatted!
In real life, people like me hire people like you, to make sure their work is on point!
C/S.
MTV greatest rappers ever, 8 out of 10 from NY, including the top 7! Zero from the south!
10. LL Cool J
9. Eminem
8. Ice Cube
7. Big Daddy Kane
6. KRS-One
5. Nas
4. Rakim
3. Notorious B.I.G.
2. Tupac
1. Jay-Z
Dude did your really just bring up MTV and Epinion's as hip-hop gospel!
Only on BGOL. I didn't say anything disrespectful about NY. Did you read? I said the best shit ya'll do is not POPULAR so stop trying to be it. Dude posted people who have again done shit to try to be popular and failed like ya'll usually do.
The shit ya'll do is great but it's not going to sale to the masses. The top selling artists of all time are from other regions minus a few from NY. Do what ya'll do and stop bullshitting with gimmicks and tricks is my take.
Only on BGOL. I didn't say anything disrespectful about NY. Did you read? I said the best shit ya'll do is not POPULAR so stop trying to be it. Dude posted people who have again done shit to try to be popular and failed like ya'll usually do.
The shit ya'll do is great but it's not going to sale to the masses. The top selling artists of all time are from other regions minus a few from NY. Do what ya'll do and stop bullshitting with gimmicks and tricks is my take.
I doubt very highley that your education and intelligence surpasses mine so you would not be hiring me, more likely working with or below me. Im on my phone with no spell check and can still spell. And for the record ignorance and intelligence has no region it calls home. Some of the southern bruthas are intelligent and thought provoking, some northern dudes are ignorant, embarassing dumbasses and vice versa. Being from a specific city or region does not make you some deep thinker or some idiot. It comes down to the individual person.
I counted 11 that are not from NY by the way...
Redman and Joe Budden are from NJ. Del, Black Thought, Kurupt, Rass Kass, Scarface, Tupac, Common, Ice Cube and Canibus is from Canada (he been fronting all this time according to LL)!
And the fact that this list has Scarface but no Outkast member is testement to itself.
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jealous ???? LOL. cats like you just dont get it. we aint jealous and yall aint take over shit !!!!! yall destroyed what used to be hip hop music,and the joke called rap is what is left. we aint jealous, we are PISSED that you guys have made a mockery of hip hop !!!! turned it into a joke. the fact that you have to ask what i am talking about when i say "REAL HIP HOP HEADS" shows me that you know nothing on this matter. i dont even know why i respond to you cause you aint on my level when it comes to speaking on the matter of HIP HOP.
side bar: to my true hip hop heads from the south and true hip hop artist from the south take no offense to what i say, and yall should know that i am not talking about you guys.
"ONE"
I counted 10 that are not from NY by the way...
Redman and Joe Budden are from NJ. Del, NWA, Kurupt, Rass Kass, Scarface, Common, Ice Cube and Canibus is from Canada (he been fronting all this time according to LL)!
And the fact that this list has Scarface but no Outkast member is testement to itself.
My bad Joe and Red are from NJ and as for Canibus
but they all got put on in the NYC area!
My bad Joe and Red are from NJ and as for Canibus
Black Thought too. Had to add him...
Any way re-read what I said. Shit is true and if NY get away from that "trying to sell millions on every pop" mentality they may actually start selling millions again!
If you were truly reading my writing with comprehension, you would have known that I said the very same things you said! To paraphrase my earlier thread, I said that there are just as many wack rappers today in the north as there are in the south, the main difference is that we in the north, tend not to defend the fuckery, while brothers down south, get very emotional, and tend to take any insult to any southern rapper as personal!
I have proposed that the south do what we are trying to do up north, that is start a anti wack movement, as an effort to get back to real music! And in doing so, call out the wack rappers in your region, especially the coons!
Black Thought too. Had to add him...
Any way re-read what I said. Shit is true and if NY get away from that "trying to sell millions on every pop" mentality they may actually start selling millions again!
We as black people need to get back to our essence and stop trying to do what we is told is hot! It used to be that we were the ones that set trends, now we are reduced to doing nothing more than following them! Man how the mighty have fallen!
I'm gonna respond to this one with the same thing I said up top. We didn't kill hip-hop. It was dead when NY handed over the keys!
All this shit started with Nelly.
Nelly did what muthafuckas had been trying to do for a long time. Make a simple record that sold like hot cakes. Shit hadn't been done since Vanilla Ice. Hammer worked his ass off on his records and shows. Ice just ran a baseline and shit took off.
Well Nelly actually had something unique but after that NYC saw the money Nelly got and them niggas lost they goddamn mind. R&B artist on the hook here, pop sample there, dumbed down lyrics here. Well the south studied what Nelly did instead of going against it like NY did and waaa-laaaa...
Now after about 5 years of this formula losing for NY they were getting way less money and getting desperate. Nas started telling hoes "they owed him for ice" and fucking Ghostface was "cher chez la ghosting" and...You get the picture.
We as black people need to get back to our essence and stop trying to do what we is told is hot! It used to be that we were the ones that set trends, now we are reduced to doing nothing more than following them! Man how the mighty have fallen!
Dude it's a young man's sport. Young people drive trends in music. Always have. The young like to dance and party. The most grown up hip-hop has ever been was during the Puffy Bling era. Because they were talking about shit that the average young person could not obtain.
Young people can dance, fuck and get fucked up. NY did it this way in the early 80's, early 90's and in the 00's. Ya'll just didn't notice how rediculous ya'll were with it until now!
NYC fucked up rap too, when G-Unit decided to take the rape world infatuation with beef, and turn it into the WWE, as a ploy for marketing!
The south fucked up by piling on tons and tons of the cheesiest, worthless garbage music that have ever been made, if you were to compile a list of the worst rap song in the history of music, the south would have at least 75% of the worst songs ever. And thats not some bullshit hate either!
So there is enough fault and blame to go around all over.
The bottom line, is are we ready and willing to clean up the mess?
The south fucked up by piling on tons and tons of the cheesiest, worthless garbage music that have ever been made, if you were to compile a list of the worst rap song in the history of music, the south would have at least 75% of the worst songs ever. And thats not some bullshit hate either!
So there is enough fault and blame to go around all over.
The bottom line, is are we ready and willing to clean up the mess?
I am still waiting on the 10 things?
NYC fucked up rap too, when G-Unit decided to take the rape world infatuation with beef, and turn it into the WWE, as a ploy for marketing!
The south fucked up by piling on tons and tons of the cheesiest, worthless garbage music that have ever been made, if you were to compile a list of the worst rap song in the history of music, the south would have at least 75% of the worst songs ever. And thats not some bullshit hate either!
So there is enough fault and blame to go around all over.
The bottom line, is are we ready and willing to clean up the mess?
We are and have been for years. Ya'll tend to think the Soulja/Gucci connection is our greatest hero's.
We have given ya'll some of the most forward thinking acts in the last ten years. Outkast, Goodie Mob, Scarface, Devin The Dude, Ludacris, TI, UGK (before you start with that shit Raekwon, AZ and even Nas was on some coke fantasy shit so fuck that) and plenty more.
What new progressive act has NY produced in the last ten years. Last ten. Not from the era of Big and Jay-Z...
NYC fucked up rap too, when G-Unit decided to take the rape world infatuation with beef, and turn it into the WWE, as a ploy for marketing!
The south fucked up by piling on tons and tons of the cheesiest, worthless garbage music that have ever been made, if you were to compile a list of the worst rap song in the history of music, the south would have at least 75% of the worst songs ever. And thats not some bullshit hate either!
So there is enough fault and blame to go around all over.
The bottom line, is are we ready and willing to clean up the mess?
Listen man, its a waste of time trying to get people from the south (especially ATL) to understand this. Killa Mike, 3000 or Big Boi couldn't do it. Goodie MOB will give a list of reasons why there's bullshit coming out the south. They're going to wake up one day will their bullshit radio stations flipped to Techno music. Until then they still think the world revolves around them and hates them at the same time.
The truth is that the world of music is moving on with or without the south.
Dude it's a young man's sport. Young people drive trends in music. Always have. The young like to dance and party. The most grown up hip-hop has ever been was during the Puffy Bling era. Because they were talking about shit that the average young person could not obtain.
Young people can dance, fuck and get fucked up. NY did it this way in the early 80's, early 90's and in the 00's. Ya'll just didn't notice how rediculous ya'll were with it until now!
Hip Hop has always been multidimensional, I have no beef with simple kids music, or stripper club joints, shit Luke got love for bootie music way back when! The difference is that there was always a sense of balance, sure there were some simple dance rap songs, but back then there were the Public Enemy or the Rakim to balance them off. Even Pac had a way of balancing some of the bullshit he rapped about, with songs that had substance.
But in today's music, is all about guys being playa's and ballas and women being hochies and hoe, hear that over and over again, and its no wonder why our race is acting out the way we are!
We need to take control of our self identity and away from the nigg@s and hoe mentality we have recently embarrassed! How can we expect other to stop looking at us as a 2nd rate individual, if we do everything in our power to glorify being one!
Did you buy the Idlewild album?
I did but most people didn't. Shit was dignified and elegant and progressive but niggas complain that shit ain't in the marketplace today.
Did you even hear the last Young Jeezy album? Give it a listen and I bet you will be surprised at the subjects he touches on in that disc. TI is the same, Luda, Killer Mike's last album.
But ya'll don't hear me...
It is unavoidable. Nothing last forever.
I'm gonna respond to this one with the same thing I said up top. We didn't kill hip-hop. It was dead when NY handed over the keys!
Say no more!!!
Say no more!!!
They ain't trying to hear you nor will they ever admit that their lack of creativity was what killed Hip-Hop. NY created trends. Then they started following them
Is it burnin? Now you fuckin learnin!
We are and have been for years. Ya'll tend to think the Soulja/Gucci connection is our greatest hero's.
We have given ya'll some of the most forward thinking acts in the last ten years. Outkast, Goodie Mob, Scarface, Devin The Dude, Ludacris, TI, UGK (before you start with that shit Raekwon, AZ and even Nas was on some coke fantasy shit so fuck that) and plenty more.
What new progressive act has NY produced in the last ten years. Last ten. Not from the era of Big and Jay-Z...
As I said embrace the good rappers from the south your list includes some of my favorite rappers, but kick the scrubs to the curb, I mean you can still make hot club joints, but it shouldn't come at the expense of holding a good rapper back!
In NYC there is a underground movement going on, involving rappers you never heard of, most of them gets no air play! But they are willing to sacrifice their careers and air play in order to keep their integrity and the purity of the craft of their art!
Many of them are very nice, and there is a grass roots movements to support them, the same should be done for all real mc's regardless of their region!
Did you buy the Idlewild album?
I did but most people didn't. Shit was dignified and elegant and progressive but niggas complain that shit ain't in the marketplace today.
Did you even hear the last Young Jeezy album? Give it a listen and I bet you will be surprised at the subjects he touches on in that disc. TI is the same, Luda, Killer Mike's last album.
But ya'll don't hear me...
I got the album and the dvd (no bootleg either) Two of my favorite rappers are Andre 3000 and Krazie Bone, not the most popular but in my mind two of the most gifted rappers ever! And neither one of them are from NYC.
We do that in the south but we get labeled by what is popular. Especially by NYC. Most of our biggest artists started out underground and that includes Nelly and Jeezy. Jeezy had like 3 mixtapes that he booked tours off of before TM101 ever dropped. BOOKED TOURS!!! That's what we can't get ya'll to understand. This Halle Berry shit is not what we play down here on a regular basis.
The thing people miss is that most rappers from the 90's wouldn't be signed today. Or they wouldn't be played on the radio. Bringing up the NY old guard is stupid because they established themselves looooong before music became watered down.
