Was Hip Hop really better back in the day?

twista, lupe, mister fab, jay, 3stacs, TI, wayne.... that sounds like variety to me. Who forces you to listen to that music? I actually choose what I hear.

They all pretty much sound the same, talking the same shit.
A Tribe Called Quest, Big Daddy Kane, Krs-1, Rakim, Cool G Rap, Kid & Play, Ice-T, Run DMC is an example of variety in the mainstream. Not something you have to seek out.
 
Really?

In the 80's we had

Gangsta Rap
Conscious Rap
Dance Rap
XXX Rap
Hippy Rap
Lyricism Rap
Songs Human Beat Boxes

We also had More B-Boys,
Lyrically Nice Female Emcees
More Graffiti on Trains (In NYC At lease)
and WAY MORE BLOCK PARTIES.


I agree the 80s was a fly era no doubt...I'm just toO young to fully remember it, but I appreciate it mos def.

I was born in 85 and I agree there were some hard hitting femcees back in the day...You still had most of those same genres you described in the 90s

XXX RAP:

AMG "Bitch Better Have my Money"

Lyrcisism Rap:

The Roots, Wu Tang, Biggie

Hippy Rap:

Hammer
Vanilla Ice
:rolleyes:
 
you always needed connections to get into the game. name one act that didn't have a connection.

This is true... BUT... the connection back inthe days ONLY GOT YOU A MEETING... That's it... It didn't guarantee you a deal... NOW... forget about it... And for the record, I'll give you two names who didn't know ANYBODY...

Large Professor

Nas...
In fact, I remember when Large did Nas FIRST DEMO... He let Eric hear it and this nigga Eric told Large and I quote,' Man... That nigga is CORNY... He'll never make it'... :yes::yes::yes::yes:
True Story...

Remember... Nas is from the Bridge.... HOW COME MARLY, MC SHAN, HOT DAY, POET, CRAIG G...ETC...didn't put Nas on? How come it took from FLUSHING to give him fist shot? :dunno:
 
They all pretty much sound the same, talking the same shit.
A Tribe Called Quest, Big Daddy Kane, Krs-1, Rakim, Cool G Rap, Kid & Play, Ice-T, Run DMC is an example of variety in the mainstream. Not something you have to seek out.

DING! DING!! DING!!!
 
He has his and you have yours.

But you have to be blind to think that there isn't a difference. Shit these young dudes don't hide the fact that they don't even TRY to be dope!

The 90's had mad different styles and shit.

I could rock Blackmoon one day and Eight the next. I could go from Paris to the BoogieMonsters.

and I can go from wale, to pastor troy, to lupe, dj paul, then jay. there is a different business structure to the industry. hating on these new cats like sb is crazy. because for every SB you got a J Cole.
 
They all pretty much sound the same, talking the same shit.
A Tribe Called Quest, Big Daddy Kane, Krs-1, Rakim, Cool G Rap, Kid & Play, Ice-T, Run DMC is an example of variety in the mainstream. Not something you have to seek out.



read my follow up, but the mainstream doesn't matter to me. it was always about diggin in the crates. hip hop is better when it is not mainstream.
 
Oh yeah.. because we didn't have House Parties in the 80's :rolleyes:

not as much as tha 90's :D and we had block parties as well.. in tha West Coast, we would cook out more wit a gang of niggaz showin off their rides; lowrider meetings and shit.. 90's were an improved version of tha 80's and wit more style to it
 
Oh yeah.. because we didn't have House Parties in the 80's :rolleyes:

Lets be serious here. The mid to late 80's is when things really got going for rap. Run Dmc ran the 80's, but new cats started emerging on the scene, and taking it forward. Dudes like Ultramagnetic Mc's, Rakim, Krs-1, Big Daddy Kane, Stetsaonic, and EPMD brought in the new and improved era of rap. The 90's. :yes:
 
Lets be serious here. The mid to late 80's is when things really got going for rap. Run Dmc ran the 80's, but new cats started emerging on the scene, and taking it forward. Dudes like Ultramagnetic Mc's, Rakim, Krs-1, Big Daddy Kane, Stetsaonic, and EPMD brought in the new and improved era of rap. The 90's. :yes:

I think J stom is showing his age a bit...Not that there's anything wrong wit it...But the 90s wins this one playa.:cool::cool:
 
In the old days we had King Sun,Rakim,Big Daddy Kane and such...now we got Souljah Boy and Lil wayne..nuff said!
 
In my opinion the 1980's were the best and all this talk about the 90's is only relevent to those where that was their era.But the 90's opened up the flood gates to alot of bullshit that now a days we see as normal behavior.Times everything by ten,chains,cars,clothes,hoes(superhead has a book).

In the late 80's and early 90's dudes would just be happy to have whoever on yo MTV raps so they could record it but now they have to go way beyond that to hold their fans attention because the fan knows alot more,checking sound scans,the charts,how much they paid for this or that til small petty shit like the model cost of the shades they are wearing.
 
Really?

In the 80's we had

Gangsta Rap
Conscious Rap
Dance Rap
XXX Rap
Hippy Rap
Lyricism Rap
Songs Human Beat Boxes

We also had More B-Boys,
Lyrically Nice Female Emcees
More Graffiti on Trains (In NYC At lease)
and WAY MORE BLOCK PARTIES.

KRS and NWA were 80's.
Teach these youngsters hommie. they're the crack head babies of the eighties. :lol::lol::lol:
 
read my follow up, but the mainstream doesn't matter to me. it was always about diggin in the crates. hip hop is better when it is not mainstream.

Dude, mainstream was DJ Red Alert, and cat like him playing what was being played in the streets, on the radio. It not the same mainstream as what you have today.
 
Could you clarify what you mean by that? Because The Beastie Boys, Rick Rubin, and even 3rd Bass played a significant part in the development of hip-hop. I don't think it was a black/white thing, but a class thing.
I mean commercialized white... as in main stream media getting white youth america to love hip hop to the point where you see it everywhere. In the movies, in advertising, in almost every every TV commercial catering to young white kids! When I first noticed white kids dressing like rap artists and white teenagers running around trying to act all thug and using the word nigga in public, that is when hip hop really started sucking bad.

Once main street media saw the trillion dollar market potential in rap/ hip hop, they immediately watered down the industry by producing these far less talented rappers and dressing them like thugs to sell albums. Now, the music is HORRIBLE and we got white media showing us how we should dress and act instead of the other way around.

No doubt about 3rd Bass though... I still rock some of their shit to this day! That was when hip hop still belonged to the street and not to the greedy corporations!
:yes::D
 
In the old days we had King Sun,Rakim,Big Daddy Kane and such...now we got Souljah Boy and Lil wayne..nuff said!

In the "OLD DAYS"? How OLD are you? :rolleyes:

I guess being from NYC got me spoiled because Hiphop wasn't something I first saw on TV.
It was something I was saw out my Front Door.
 
c/s...Also, once rap went white, it got whack real fucking fast! Black rappers got reduced to being fake ass thugs with no talent representing hip hop. It was the beginning of the end right there!

I have to disagree... A little... my boy Large Prof learned how to make beats from a white dude(R.I.P. Paul C)... But I can dig where you're coming from... :yes:
 
Dude, mainstream was DJ Red Alert, and cat like him playing what was being played in the streets, on the radio. It not the same mainstream as what you have today.

Red was never mainstream really. Who cares about fm radio? we got iphone and nothing but access to all kinds of hip hop.
 
and I can go from wale, to pastor troy, to lupe, dj paul, then jay. there is a different business structure to the industry. hating on these new cats like sb is crazy. because for every SB you got a J Cole.

People hate because they SUCK! See, this new generation is soft. You can't demand that people like you. You have to show and prove and know how to play your position.

Joe Ski Love didn't talk shit about Chuck D

Melle Mel popped shit about KRS during his set at the LQ and he BATTLED HIM on the spot!!!

That's what face was talking about. Its more business than culture. Business ain't what got the parties rocking in the parks and during the Fresh Fest and the early super tours (88 stand up!!)


80's abnd 90's music still have replay value. Even the lesser named joints got you hyped for hip hip music!!


Red was never mainstream really. Who cares about fm radio? we got iphone and nothing but access to all kinds of hip hop.

man I can't even take you seriously now.
 
Dude, mainstream was DJ Red Alert, and cat like him playing what was being played in the streets, on the radio. It not the same mainstream as what you have today.

Shit... Red Alert premiered A LOT OF NEW ARTIST... :yes:
Way more than Marley... and I was Marly Marl's In Control show #1 fan...
:yes:
 
People hate because they SUCK! See, this new generation is soft. You can't demand that people like you. You have to show and prove and know how to play your position.

Joe Ski Love didn't talk shit about Chuck D

Melle Mel popped shit about KRS during his set at the LQ and he BATTLED HIM on the spot!!!

That's what face was talking about. Its more business than culture. Business ain't what got the parties rocking in the parks and during the Fresh Fest and the early super tours (88 stand up!!)


80's abnd 90's music still have replay value. Even the lesser named joints got you hyped for hip hip music!!




man I can't even take you seriously now.

How was dj red alert mainstream when hip hop was not mainstream then? Marley was not even mainstream until he helped LL out. But don't take me seriously. You probable did not even read what I wrote anyways. So I feel the same too.
 
In the "OLD DAYS"... :rolleyes:

I guess being from NYC got me spoiled because Hiphop wasn't something I first saw on TV.
It was something I was saw out my Front Door.
LMAO... Yo, I was one of those knuckle headed kids in Brooklyn who used to place those big ass Gemini woofer speakers right up to my window and blast nothing but old school jams for the whole neighborhood to hear!

Dollar Bill Y'All
Games People Play
Buffalo Gals
Problems Of The World
Hey DJ
LaToya
The Show
Me, Myself & I
Buddy

They knew Run-DMC, but TV was way too slow to know what was really in style back then!
:cool::yes::yes:
 
I don't know if it's a reflection of the music or if I am really changing so much. But I used to be the "bootleg man" in the early 90s, and one of my policies was if I didn't like the album, I wouldn't sell it. Some of my old clients still come up and ask me if I have this or that, and I ain't got none of the shit they askin for!! :smh:

So...I gotta say it's the music...maybe I'm delusional...:confused:
 
LMAO... Yo, I was one of those knuckle headed kids in Brooklyn who used to place those big ass Gemini woofer speakers right up to my window and blast nothing but old school jams for the whole neighborhood to hear!

Dollar Bill Y'All
Games People Play
Buffalo Gals
Problems Of The World
Hey DJ
LaToya
The Show
Me, Myself & I
Buddy

They knew Run-DMC, but TV was way too slow to know what was really in style back then!
:cool::yes::yes:

Funny part about that..I grew up in Jersey City, and I remember the 1st time hearing UTFO - Roxanne, Roxanne was from dude across the street playing that shit out his window!! :lol:

The good old days..

side note..if a muthafucka did that now...I'd shoot em
:D
 
How was dj red alert mainstream when hip hop was not mainstream then? Marley was not even mainstream until he helped LL out. But don't take me seriously. You probable did not even read what I wrote anyways. So I feel the same too.

You're rambling son.

Nobody's buying your arguments.

The only ones who think that hip hop is better now are people getting a check or hoping they'll get a check from the industry.

I didn't post about Marley. What made Red Mainstream as you call it was the fact he was THE goto guy to break records from the streets. Shit that's how BDP got put on!!
 
You're rambling son.

Nobody's buying your arguments.

The only ones who think that hip hop is better now are people getting a check or hoping they'll get a check from the industry.

I didn't post about Marley. What made Red Mainstream as you call it was the fact he was THE goto guy to break records from the streets. Shit that's how BDP got put on!!

what argument? lol, funny. I just broke down each decade and talked about the pros and cons of each. there is no argument. I think it is better for the fan because music is so accessible. you are not held to what is played on the radio, or sold in the stores anymore. If I want to get an album by a russian rapper I can get it. If I want music from UK rapper or a Bay area rapper I can. My quality of music goes up because it is more accessible to me. But that's me.
 
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