good lookin on the post mike![]()
"Who indeed can tell what our nation will do if any perversity is possible of realization; and yet this obelisk may ask us, 'Can you expect to flourish forever? Can you expect wealth to accumulate and man not decay? Can you think that the soft folds of luxury are to wrap themselves closer and closer around this nation and the pith and vigor of its manhood know no decay? Can it creep over you and yet the nation know no decrepitude?' These are questions that may be answered in the time of the obelisk but not in ours."
I cant believe I just went thru all 11 pages. Interesting.
Just suprised no one brought up the quote and speach on obilisk, C'mon ya'll slipping.
Original quote:
Source
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/egypt/raising/newyork.html
Location: Central Park, New York, USA
Pharaoh: Tuthmosis III (reigned 1504-1450 B.C.)
Height: 70 feet
Weight: 193 tons
Story: After the opening of the Suez Canal in 1869, the ruler of Egypt, the Khedive Ismail, promised the United States an obelisk. Henry Gorridge, a lieutenant commander of the U.S. Navy, was appointed the task of transporting it to New York from its pedestal in Alexandria. (It had been moved to Alexandria from Heliopolis, where Tuthmosis III had erected it alongside its companion, which is now in London.)
The obelisk and its 50-ton pedestal arrived at the Quarantine Station in New York in July 1880. It took 32 horses hitched in 16 pairs to drag the pedestal alone through the streets of the city. Once the pedestal was in place on the summit of the Graywacke Knoll in Central Park, the obelisk was then hauled through Manhattan. It traveled at the rate of 97 feet a day, taking 112 days to arrive at the knoll. The shaft was raised in January 1881 before more than 10,000 jubilant New Yorkers.
At the raising, William Maxwell Evarts, then U.S. Secretary of State, declared, "Who indeed can tell what our nation will do if any perversity is possible of realization; and yet this obelisk may ask us, 'Can you expect to flourish forever? Can you expect wealth to accumulate and man not decay? Can you think that the soft folds of luxury are to wrap themselves closer and closer around this nation and the pith and vigor of its manhood know no decay? Can it creep over you and yet the nation know no decrepitude?' These are questions that may be answered in the time of the obelisk but not in ours."
Stevie

i completely forgot about that thing
but i didnt know about that speech
kinda weird thing to say at what was supposed to be a happy occasion
but aint nowhere as weird as that stevie track
just completely unexpected
I challenge everyone that reads this to decypher it. Look at the meaning of those words, rearrange the sentence structures. Remember, this came from a guy considered one of the smartest men on the planet at this time. Yet it seems a little grammatically incorrect or is it? HE WAS A LAWYER.

i feel it meant that stevie wonder is what they call a "star child" and his soul was assigned her to try to help us realize our ways. earth is basically a school of learning for young souls and this life is basically a virtual reality headset.The Stevie Wonder song is deep but can one of you more enlightened brotha's explain the significance of it to me?
Not weird, CRYPTIC!I challenge everyone that reads this to decypher it. Look at the meaning of those words, rearrange the sentence structures. Remember, this came from a guy considered one of the smartest men on the planet at this time. Yet it seems a little grammatically incorrect or is it? HE WAS A LAWYER.
"Who indeed can tell what our nation will do if any perversity is possible of realization; and yet this obelisk may ask us, 'Can you expect to flourish forever? Can you expect wealth to accumulate and man not decay? Can you think that the soft folds of luxury are to wrap themselves closer and closer around this nation and the pith and vigor of its manhood know no decay? Can it creep over you and yet the nation know no decrepitude?' These are questions that may be answered in the time of the obelisk but not in ours."![]()
The Stevie Wonder song is deep but can one of you more enlightened brotha's explain the significance of it to me?
what do you think of my assessment of stevie and the song?sounds like a warning
but put in such a way that it seems like hes in the middle of a conversation
i only said weird cause i can only imagine the reaction after that speech was delivered
I dont know what that person intentions were with that speech but i'm positive it wasnt random babblings
i have a few theories but i rather wait for the more informed to chime in
what do you think of my assessment of stevie and the song?
sounds like a warning
but put in such a way that it seems like hes in the middle of a conversation
i only said weird cause i can only imagine the reaction after that speech was delivered
I dont know what that person intentions were with that speech but i'm positive it wasnt random babblings
i have a few theories but i rather wait for the more informed to chime in
The speech seems to ask the question " Can a nation/society built on power & greed maintain its position. The rich will always become soft due to the luxury of there life. Hence a nation built on industry no longer producing much of anything. A recession (almost depression) where people buy $200 cell phones for children. Where, elections are stolen & the nation doesn't really care.
When one is on top for so long, you eventually get lazy & stop doing the work that got you in that position. I guess he saw The U.S. repeating the same mistakes of Empires in the past (Egypt).
I gave myself a headache reading some of the post in this thread last week. Some of you cats are either extremely intelligent or completely insane. frequency and pitches? Are you kidding me? Good read though.
Which is why they had to be destroyed, it took several millenium before they conquered Egypt and then destroyed it from within. See HYKSOS KINGS.


The Statue of Liberty is an antenna!
It is used to activate the DNA of the hybrids. It's funny how its been used as such in two major motion pictures to de-value the truth.
Once in the body the sperm acts as a carrier of their frequency to an egg. If the female is occupied or a hybrid then the offspring is less human. If the female is not a hybrid or host then the offspring will be less entity but will be able to control or possess, hopefully to mate with another of its kind.
There is so much to tell, but I would rather you ladies and gents do your own research. Control your emotions; when you see something happening that doesn't make sense, use your INTUITION. Avoid the "BIG WHAMMY", you know, distractions of mass production. You'll get it.




sounds like a warning
but put in such a way that it seems like hes in the middle of a conversation
i only said weird cause i can only imagine the reaction after that speech was delivered
I dont know what that person intentions were with that speech but i'm positive it wasnt random babblings
i have a few theories but i rather wait for the more informed to chime in
Personal experience: It's amazing what you can miss everyday!
I came out and asked her who did we think was in there, she pointed her out. Simply stunning,had at least three guys and a girl grinding on her on the dance floor.
I knew what she was instantly. Word has it that she instigated an orgy at her place after the party.
Fellas and ladies just be careful when you're out there. Pay attention.[/SIZE][/COLOR]
It was a warning in a cryptic manner. The capters are not that smart, they just have some biological advantages over humans or know how to use this realm/reality...the Egyptians also knew this.Which is why they had to be destroyed, it took several millenium before they conquered Egypt and then destroyed it from within. See HYKSOS KINGS.
The aforementioned speaker asked the question "What will the nation do if they realize the perversity which has taken place. You see at some time in the past the so called leaders of this nation made a deal to ensure them and their offspring's wealth and continued positioning in society. But never realized that the "givers" of such things had their on agenda. A "Deal with the DEVIL" so to speak. The Obelisks can be used to repel theses entities, which is why they were removed from EGYPT. Look at the amount of effort and money spent on putting a statue (obelisk) in Central Park. WTF???The Statue of Liberty is an antenna!
It is used to activate the DNA of the hybrids. It's funny how its been used as such in two major motion pictures to de-value the truth.
A lot of people possess this creatures (yes just one ...MOTHER, QUEEN) DNA, which allows her or any of her "purer" offspring to either possess or control the said individuals. They can in-breed with their DNA, but the human physical body has complications with that, so they have to use more humans to reproduce into this realm. This is what has taken them so long.
A Professor's Theory: When they occupy a human host they use that body to reproduce their frequency.Once in the body the sperm acts as a carrier of their frequency to an egg. If the female is occupied or a hybrid then the offspring is less human. If the female is not a hybrid or host then the offspring will be less entity but will be able to control or possess, hopefully to mate with another of its kind.
My research points out that his wife may have been a hybrid. Look at the success rate of his children, almost predestined if there is such a thing.There is so much to tell, but I would rather you ladies and gents do your own research. Control your emotions; when you see something happening that doesn't make sense, use your INTUITION. Avoid the "BIG WHAMMY", you know, distractions of mass production. You'll get it.
YES, I do give parts of what we know. Those that can get more information on their on are the ones to....

Not impossible but strange, being that great uncle Willie said those things at the SOL.

Just took a trip to belize & experienced a woman like this on the trip with us, I immediately thought about this threat & it freaked me the fuck out...when we got back to the states, I got ghost on that ass

I believe SOME can sense that.
Then they will seek to find out why you are/were afraid or giving off such vibes. Not all of them have these abilities, those are just hosts and breeders. I know its sounds strange, but check out some of the exercises that I posted in this thread. You are stronger than they are, you just have to know it.

The Stevie Wonder analysis/song is genius. I never thought the thread would get THIS heavy. Interesting and informative stuff.
It was a warning in a cryptic manner. The capters are not that smart, they just have some biological advantages over humans or know how to use this realm/reality...the Egyptians also knew this.Which is why they had to be destroyed, it took several millenium before they conquered Egypt and then destroyed it from within. See HYKSOS KINGS.
The aforementioned speaker asked the question "What will the nation do if they realize the perversity which has taken place. You see at some time in the past the so called leaders of this nation made a deal to ensure them and their offspring's wealth and continued positioning in society. But never realized that the "givers" of such things had their on agenda. A "Deal with the DEVIL" so to speak. The Obelisks can be used to repel theses entities, which is why they were removed from EGYPT. Look at the amount of effort and money spent on putting a statue (obelisk) in Central Park. WTF???The Statue of Liberty is an antenna!
It is used to activate the DNA of the hybrids. It's funny how its been used as such in two major motion pictures to de-value the truth.
A lot of people possess this creatures (yes just one ...MOTHER, QUEEN) DNA, which allows her or any of her "purer" offspring to either possess or control the said individuals. They can in-breed with their DNA, but the human physical body has complications with that, so they have to use more humans to reproduce into this realm. This is what has taken them so long.
A Professor's Theory: When they occupy a human host they use that body to reproduce their frequency.Once in the body the sperm acts as a carrier of their frequency to an egg. If the female is occupied or a hybrid then the offspring is less human. If the female is not a hybrid or host then the offspring will be less entity but will be able to control or possess, hopefully to mate with another of its kind.
My research points out that his wife may have been a hybrid. Look at the success rate of his children, almost predestined if there is such a thing.There is so much to tell, but I would rather you ladies and gents do your own research. Control your emotions; when you see something happening that doesn't make sense, use your INTUITION. Avoid the "BIG WHAMMY", you know, distractions of mass production. You'll get it.
YES, I do give parts of what we know. Those that can get more information on their on are the ones to....

Just took a trip to belize & experienced a woman like this on the trip with us, I immediately thought about this threat & it freaked me the fuck out...when we got back to the states, I got ghost on that ass

Here is a million dollar question.
Who/Whom or what is Stevie Wonder referring too in the song Saturn?

I just thought he knew what was happening to the the country but i didnt think he was that deep into it
thought he may have done some business with a few too many shady people
Do u think he knew what his wife was, if she was a hybrid? NO!
the speech seemed like it had some regret in it
maybe he made a deal with the others then realized the mistake he madeYES! He might have brokered the deal,legally. These creatures are business oriented, go figure. I recently had a convo with "ONE" that referred to the whole alien conspiracy thing as just a "Corporation" doing business.
Interesting analogy I thought.
Seems like it may be about that time to work on a tone generating app for mobile devices
Something along the lines of what i spoke of before...... Already in the works, use digital recorders.
yeah, u gonna have to give some details
u cant leave us hangin like that
i got 2 guess
either those gas giants out there aint gas giants and theres alot more about our solar system we're not being told or he coulda been using the name saturn in reference to some place on another plane
but my guesses feel too obvious
i dont think he would just put it all out there ( but who would know if he did )
and i know he wasnt just talkin bout a place in his mind so
i'll have to do some diggin on stevies past.......


that corporation thing is very interesting
it seems to imply that theres others that they do business with
as if its common practice for them to make deals all over the galaxy
makes ya think about that term "deal with the devil"
They are very business oriented and ritualistic/religious in nature. 


man i don't think there is any research we could do to really get a grip on what stevie was talking about. can you pm me something? or drop it in here? man i feel like i'm gonna have a heart attac k if i don't know.
Here is a million dollar question.
Who/Whom or what is Stevie Wonder referring too in the song Saturn?
here's some info on the hyksos:
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/hyksos.htm
The Hyksos were an important influence on Egyptian history, particularly at the beginning of the Second Intermediate Period. Most of what we know of the nature of the Hyksos depends upon written sources (of the Egyptians), such as the Rhind Papyrus. Also of considerable importance is the systematic excavation of their capital, Avaris (Tell el-Dab'a).
Aamu was the contemporary term used to distinguish the people of Avaris, the Hyksos capital in Egypt, from Egyptians. Egyptologists conventionally translate aamu as "asiatics" The Jewish historian, Josephus, in his Contra Apionem, claims that Manetho was the first to use the Greek term, Hyksos, incorrectly translated as "shepherd-kings". Contemporary Egyptians during the Hyksos invasion designated them as hikau khausut, which meant "rulers of foreign countries", a term that originally only referred to the ruling caste of the invaders. However, today the term Hyksos has come to refer to the whole of these people who ruled Egypt during the Second Intermediate Period of Egypt's ancient history, and had to be driven out of the land by the last ruler of the 17th Dynasty and the earliest ruler of Egypt's New Kingdom.
Josephus claims to quote directly from Manetho, who's original history is lost to us, when he describes the conquest and occupation of Egypt by the Hyksos:
"By main force they easily seized it without striking a blow; and having overpowered the rulers of the land, they then burned our cities ruthlessly, razed to the ground the temples of gods...Finally, they appointed as king one of their number whose name was Salitis."Magic-Science, mind control. Look at what GW Bush did to the US and try to rationalize it. You can't. Like many before him...just a hybrid/puppet.
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Egypt_2a.htm
Because these foreigners had maintained their identity as "Asiatic's" and had not become Egyptians, they felt empowered to establish their own communities and live by their own laws. Eventually, as their numbers increased, they challenged the power of the Egyptian monarchy itself, and Egypt fell into disarray. Same in Europe, know America, as they move to China, of course economically. We do not known exactly how the "Hyksos" took northern Egypt, but took it they did.Yes they do, their not telling.They would have to acknowledge a lot of things that contridict the religious control mechanisms.
The middle and last part of the Second Intermediate Period (15th-17th dynastys) saw northern Egypt ruled by these foreign kings for hundreds of years.
During this time, Egypt was never under the control of a single monarch, but consisted largely of independent states under a variety of kings. The Egyptians called the foreign kings of northern Egypt - Heka-Khaswt - there is argument as to whether this translates to "Shepherd Kings" or "Rulers of the Foreign Lands." The Greeks later perverted this word to Hyksos. It might be of interest to note that in Sumer, the king was known in their hymns and poems as "the good Shepherd".
This second intermediate period, lasted for hundreds of years, until king "Tao" of Thebes took to battle in order to re-unify Egypt. After he fell in battle, his son Kamose carried on. King Kamose's throne name, Wadj-kheper-re means: "Flourishing is the Manifestation of Re". As Kamose picked up the battle-axe from his father, in the war against the Hyksos, he tried to motivate the Egyptian people to break the status quo, but it was a hard task, their fighting spirit wasn't high. or had been broken mentally.[/COLOR] The Hyksos had apparently been good neighbors, they had incorporated Egyptian gods into their religious pantheon,(this is called the first wave)and had many commercial agreements with Egyptians ( business minded)in upper Egypt. They were people who had lived in Egypt for hundreds of years, and aside from their desire to build their nation with the Pharaohs land (sound familiar?) , were in all other ways tolerable.
In order to hold-off the oncoming Egyptian army, the old Hyksos king, "Apepi I" tried to make an alliance with the Nubians (people south of Egypt), and engage King Kamose in a two-front war, but it didn't work out as planned. Instead the Nubians joined forces with Kamose and headed north to expel the Hyksos. However, all Egyptians did not support expulsion of the Hyksos, and these people were treated as traitors.![]()


These creatures are not after money, its just a way to manipulate the desires of people, look at the post above again. The are also called "SOUL-COLLECTORS" go figure.
what do they want to do with our souls? if we lose our soul is that the end?I went ahead and pointed out a few things. The sad thing is that a lot of information is just kept from the public by people that know. These people are in it for the money but do not realize that something far more valuable is at stake. Remember, your actual self is not the physical you but the ETERNAL ENERGY that exisst inside of that physical shell.![]()
Your essence/soul/existence.These creatures are not after money, its just a way to manipulate the desires of people, look at the post above again. The are also called "SOUL-COLLECTORS" go figure.
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