Damn, 600+ replies, only game 1 and stickied? I don't know which one is gonna me more of a classiC: this thread or this series.
The "Official Lakers vs. Nuggets Thread!!!
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The Lakers got alot of phantom home "fouls". Denver should have still won but the refs obviously helped LA. We all know the league wants Kobe vs LBJ in the Finals.
You guys will just say anything won't you regardless of the facts.
The road team shot 11 more free throws then the home team.
Your observation is wrong.
The Nuggets were the more aggressive and deserved to shoot more. Im talking abut if the fouls called were actually fouls. Alot of the ones called on DEN in the fourth were not realy fouls but bad calls that helped LA.
bullsheit. if you're using the 'phantom' theory then the nuggets got A LOT of help from the refs. fisher got slapped with a foul for just standing NEXT to the guy.
u jealous azz bastids will never learn; los angeles lakers are NOT to be fuked with
all that whining and crying, the unwillingness to give props when earned. all the conspiracy theories. all the 'lucky bounce' tales.
fuk outta here with all those excuses. only makes your own team look weaker
wow
and i thought the celtics vs bulls thread got hella post.
500+ after just game1 ?
cant wait to see how many post are put up in here once the Lakers lose the series.
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@ CRANRAB trying to sneak posts in at 3 in the morning...yeah you know he has a blind eye to everything other than what he tries to say Kobe did bad
@ CRANRAB trying to sneak posts in at 3 in the morning...yeah you know he has a blind eye to everything other than what he tries to say Kobe did bad
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man you stat geeks are ruining the analysis of NBA games I've beaten your ass before debationg the Kobe stuff must I do so again.
analizing basketball isn't about solving some math equation.
by your logic because Kwame brown shot 55% from the field one year with the Lakers he should be shooting more than Kobe.
what does your eyes tell you.
Mines told me because of the Lakers ridiculously pourous defense in the 1st quarter it broke the Lakers from running their standard offense. The main culprit for the pourous defense was Gasol, he was simply not covering the pick and roll correctly, he was late coming over or not at all on the big rolling to the hoop.
On offense as mentioned by the Lakers Headcoach, the nuggets did a good job bodying out their bigs from gaining low post position and getting any paint touches basically Gasol because he lacks strength was rode outta deep postion. so the only other way for Gasol to get the ball was for him to get it in the pick and pop and he did and got switched on and Kobe went back to get the ball.
so with Bynum getting in foul trouble LO being ineffective and Gasol not being able to catch the ball on the block deep enough who exactly where the Lakers were supposed to get the ball to DJ Mbenga.
Kobe was 9-23 surely in the 1st 3 quarters but he was getting all the looks he wanted really easy shots he just missed. Unlike in the Rockets series.
thats why in the 4th he was able to shoot well because he got those same looks and capitalized.
If he gets those same looks again he'll make those shots at a higher clip and punish the Nuggets even worse.
If the Lakers don't get behind and have to scramble to catch up their offensive patience will kick in and they'll have more balance.
And if Kobe doesn't play great defense on Billups this game the Lakers would have lost period he was outstanding containing Billups. Billups made 1 fg in half 1.
thats how you analize void of figuring the math in a game Math geek.
Gasol I thought played well as you mentioned on the boards he was giving great effort there. But his defense was bad most of the night till late.
i just read all 13 pages and bloo had the most correct basketball observations.
among them, the missed FTAs would come back to haunt them (maybe not enough to win them the game, but definitely enough to lose it). also he was right about j.r. smith's play: specifically shot selection and poor ball economy.
faker fans and tobe stans will probably never understand the fundamental concepts involved, but yes, the reason why the fakers were losing the game was because tobe was chucking AND not getting pau gasol involved. fakers lost Q1 31-23. or did that not happen? pau gasol only had 3 FGAs in Q1. or did that not happen?
pau gasol went 4-6 FGAs the REST OF THE GAME. but fakers fans and tobe stans are too dense (or too infatuated, or BOTH) to understand that THE REASON why the game was as close as it was is because tobe was chucking. but whatever. a win makes all flaws look golden, right?
ex. tobe had a hot Q4, going 4-5 FGAs. but tobe stans don't want to acknowledge that he was 9-23 FGAs (39.1%) the first 3 quarters. that couldn't possibly have been a negative detractor to his team, could it? nah.
i was also surprised (just a little, actually) read how many supposed fakers fans dumping on derek fisher. FORGET THE REALITY that derek fisher finished the game ONLY 1 MADE FG from shooting THE SAME FG% as tobe.
the nuggets have 2 unstable players: kenyon martin and j.r. smith. kenyon martin made contributions tonight. j.r. smith did not.
man you stat geeks are ruining the analysis of NBA games I've beaten your ass before debationg the Kobe stuff must I do so again.
analizing basketball isn't about solving some math equation.
by your logic because Kwame brown shot 55% from the field one year with the Lakers he should be shooting more than Kobe.
what does your eyes tell you.
Mines told me because of the Lakers ridiculously pourous defense in the 1st quarter it broke the Lakers from running their standard offense. The main culprit for the pourous defense was Gasol, he was simply not covering the pick and roll correctly, he was late coming over or not at all on the big rolling to the hoop.
On offense as mentioned by the Lakers Headcoach, the nuggets did a good job bodying out their bigs from gaining low post position and getting any paint touches basically Gasol because he lacks strength was rode outta deep postion. so the only other way for Gasol to get the ball was for him to get it in the pick and pop and he did and got switched on and Kobe went back to get the ball.
so with Bynum getting in foul trouble LO being ineffective and Gasol not being able to catch the ball on the block deep enough who exactly where the Lakers were supposed to get the ball to DJ Mbenga.
Kobe was 9-23 surely in the 1st 3 quarters but he was getting all the looks he wanted really easy shots he just missed. Unlike in the Rockets series.
thats why in the 4th he was able to shoot well because he got those same looks and capitalized.
If he gets those same looks again he'll make those shots at a higher clip and punish the Nuggets even worse.
If the Lakers don't get behind and have to scramble to catch up their offensive patience will kick in and they'll have more balance.
And if Kobe doesn't play great defense on Billups this game the Lakers would have lost period he was outstanding containing Billups. Billups made 1 fg in half 1.
thats how you analize void of figuring the math in a game Math geek.
Gasol I thought played well as you mentioned on the boards he was giving great effort there. But his defense was bad most of the night till late.
I was going to counter barnac, but y'all did a great job of it.
I agree Pau should have the ball more, but like the other poster said, he was getting pushed out of the lane. The refs also let Denver be extra physical on Kobe, but were calling touch fouls on Drew.
If the lakers fix their problems on defense, get the bigs involved and reduce the load on Kobe, [cranrab]keep Kobe under 18 shots[/cranrab] they can sweep this team.
Yeah I said it, SWEEP.
But, that will take a team effort in every game.
I agree Pau should have the ball more, but like the other poster said, he was getting pushed out of the lane. The refs also let Denver be extra physical on Kobe, but were calling touch fouls on Drew.
If the lakers fix their problems on defense, get the bigs involved and reduce the load on Kobe, [cranrab]keep Kobe under 18 shots[/cranrab] they can sweep this team.
Yeah I said it, SWEEP.
But, that will take a team effort in every game.
Yeah that's correct, but what i've seen from the Lakers in this playoffs is if they don't get off to a good start then they struggle the whole game. When they start the game with a lil run or at least make 3 outta 4 shots to start the game then the whole team gains confidence and the players like Gasol and Odom and the rest of the team will do what they are capable of doing, good D/O, rebounding and this keeps Kobes shots low, BUT when they start off slow they do none of that and all become timid, especially Odom and that puts the Lakers behind leaving a player like Kobe who has no problem putting up shots taking a large number of them
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N,
to your first observation. i was responding directly to the posts made in this thread about derek fisher. the fair weather and bandwagon fakers fans were already whining for derek fisher's ouster because he struggled early on. so hardly moot. you can go back and see for yourself, if you like.
to your second observation, that is the definition of moot. there's no basis in reality for the scenario you suggested. tobe comes out firing (ex. last night, 16 FGAs by halftime), so it's not a matter of taking shots to correct poor/cold teammate shooting.
N,
to your first observation. i was responding directly to the posts made in this thread about derek fisher. the fair weather and bandwagon fakers fans were already whining for derek fisher's ouster because he struggled early on. so hardly moot. you can go back and see for yourself, if you like.
to your second observation, that is the definition of moot. there's no basis in reality for the scenario you suggested. tobe comes out firing (ex. last night, 16 FGAs by halftime), so it's not a matter of taking shots to correct poor/cold teammate shooting.
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did it appear to you that chauncey billups and j.r. smith were gassed at any point during the game?
Lakers Win.
did it appear to you that chauncey billups and j.r. smith were gassed at any point during the game?
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cranrab the black mamba won the game and had 40 points.
cranrab the black mamba won the game and had 40 points.
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i tried to "sneak" a post in that was STICKIED on the front page.
just when i think you've lowered the bar the farthest it will go, you manage to surprise me by dropping a notch further.
i noticed you contributed a lot to the basketball discussion again. good job.
i tried to "sneak" a post in that was STICKIED on the front page.
just when i think you've lowered the bar the farthest it will go, you manage to surprise me by dropping a notch further.
i noticed you contributed a lot to the basketball discussion again. good job.
Quaid!!!!!
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thanks for outing yourself. you claim to observe things for yourself, but a pity you don't have any understanding of the game to reach conclusions on your own. so instead you regurgitate things you've heard other people say.
we already knew.
but i'll give you a chance to bail yourself out and discuss basketball FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE. you stated: "The main culprit for the pourous defense was Gasol, he was simply not covering the pick and roll correctly, he was late coming over or not at all on the big rolling to the hoop."
provide 3 examples of this from the game last night. use the game time and we'll see what you know.
here's another reason why you outed yourself. you claim pau gasol "lacks strength" and was "rode outta deep position". then explain how he got 6 offensive rebounds. so again, provide 3 examples of this from the game last night. use the game time and we'll see what you know.
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funny how fakers fans can never bring points to the table that they can't parrot from what they heard on TV.
so it's not a surprise that you couldn't see (nor identify) the problem in george karl's D strategy. hint: coach adelman had it right. the real contribution tobe made to the game last night was something that coach adelman's (and to a lesser extent, coach sloan's) game plan did not permit tobe to do.
thanks for outing yourself. you claim to observe things for yourself, but a pity you don't have any understanding of the game to reach conclusions on your own. so instead you regurgitate things you've heard other people say.
we already knew.
but i'll give you a chance to bail yourself out and discuss basketball FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE. you stated: "The main culprit for the pourous defense was Gasol, he was simply not covering the pick and roll correctly, he was late coming over or not at all on the big rolling to the hoop."
provide 3 examples of this from the game last night. use the game time and we'll see what you know.
here's another reason why you outed yourself. you claim pau gasol "lacks strength" and was "rode outta deep position". then explain how he got 6 offensive rebounds. so again, provide 3 examples of this from the game last night. use the game time and we'll see what you know.
& funny how fakers fans can never bring points to the table that they can't parrot from what they heard on TV.
so it's not a surprise that you couldn't see (nor identify) the problem in george karl's D strategy. hint: coach adelman had it right. the real contribution tobe made to the game last night was something that coach adelman's (and to a lesser extent, coach sloan's) game plan did not permit tobe to do.
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the offense goes around kobe so he has to take all the shots.
thats what the FIRST option does.
the offense goes around kobe so he has to take all the shots.
thats what the FIRST option does.
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anyway, the problem is simple. when i watch basketball, i want to see muhammad ali v. cleveland williams. when BGOL watches basketball, they want female mud wrestling.
anyway, the problem is simple. when i watch basketball, i want to see muhammad ali v. cleveland williams. when BGOL watches basketball, they want female mud wrestling.
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Kobe runs the Triangle.
Kobe runs the Triangle.
cranrab
Pau was getting pushed around. Both he and Drew were a step slow on D at the beginning of the game. I would like to see Phil start Odom, and bring in Drew with the second unit.
He's a better match on Marshmello. (Who was getting his game on)
I'm a Laker fan, but seeing Marshmello and LeBronze go at it in the finals would be great.
I will also admit I was about to throw Fisher under the bus if he missed 2 more wide open shots. He's a pro, I expect him to make them (Vujacic too)
But, Kobe did what the other lakers were unwilling or unable to do. Stay aggressive. He was getting beat the hell up by the frontcourt and backcourt of the Nuggets but he was getting good looks (and not many calls) I expect the Lakers to be on the line more the next game.
Pau was getting pushed around. Both he and Drew were a step slow on D at the beginning of the game. I would like to see Phil start Odom, and bring in Drew with the second unit.
He's a better match on Marshmello. (Who was getting his game on)
I'm a Laker fan, but seeing Marshmello and LeBronze go at it in the finals would be great.
I will also admit I was about to throw Fisher under the bus if he missed 2 more wide open shots. He's a pro, I expect him to make them (Vujacic too)
But, Kobe did what the other lakers were unwilling or unable to do. Stay aggressive. He was getting beat the hell up by the frontcourt and backcourt of the Nuggets but he was getting good looks (and not many calls) I expect the Lakers to be on the line more the next game.
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pau gasol is a euro and not the strongest post player known to man. stipulated.
but since when does getting pushed off the block mean that pau gasol cannot still be effective in the O? pau gasol has midrange. pau gasol has face up game.
you have been around long enough to remember that this is the same line that coach jackson used to trot out in front of the media on shaquille o'neal. was he not strong enough in the post? was he getting pushed around too?
the simple fact is that pau gasol wasn't getting the touches (nor the looks) that he was supposed to, and it wasn't due to him being pushed out of the paint.
pau gasol is a euro and not the strongest post player known to man. stipulated.
but since when does getting pushed off the block mean that pau gasol cannot still be effective in the O? pau gasol has midrange. pau gasol has face up game.
you have been around long enough to remember that this is the same line that coach jackson used to trot out in front of the media on shaquille o'neal. was he not strong enough in the post? was he getting pushed around too?
the simple fact is that pau gasol wasn't getting the touches (nor the looks) that he was supposed to, and it wasn't due to him being pushed out of the paint.
He was timid. The Lakers as a team were not passing well, and he has a nice midrange game, but midrange jumpers don't get the Denver frontcourt players into foul trouble.
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wasn't it pau gasol who drew the 6th PF on nene last night to send him to the bench? and subsequently tied the game at 99-99?
wasn't it pau gasol who drew the 6th PF on nene last night to send him to the bench? and subsequently tied the game at 99-99?
yes, but where did he get the other ones from? 
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it was spread out. trevor ariza gave him 1, tobe gave him a couple, pau gasol gave him a couple.
there was that ridiculous 2 minute stretch where nene picked up 3 fouls. that was sickening.
the nuggets only played about 44 minutes of good basketball last night. they deserved to lose. chauncey billups didn't finish Q1 very well, carmelo anthony imploded during that sequence where he got the technical foul, and j.r. smith was horrible. i expect chauncey billups and carmelo anthony to improve their performances, but not j.r. smith.
yes, but where did he get the other ones from?
it was spread out. trevor ariza gave him 1, tobe gave him a couple, pau gasol gave him a couple.
there was that ridiculous 2 minute stretch where nene picked up 3 fouls. that was sickening.
the nuggets only played about 44 minutes of good basketball last night. they deserved to lose. chauncey billups didn't finish Q1 very well, carmelo anthony imploded during that sequence where he got the technical foul, and j.r. smith was horrible. i expect chauncey billups and carmelo anthony to improve their performances, but not j.r. smith.
*Bypasses all the bullshit*
Can't wait for Game 2.
Let's get it
Although I bleed Purple & Gold, U are the only Denver fan, in this thread, who makes sense. The game is over, fukk it, move on...get ready for thursday.
P.S. see how many niggas jumped on ur bandwagon......
Might as well sticky it now.
Y'all watching the ESPN Kobe LeBron Suck fest?
Yeah Im peepin It..
For Suck fests, it's not bad.
