The "Official Lakers vs. Nuggets Thread!!!
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Hows that the case when the nuggets bench sucks? J.R. Smith will CONTINUE to turn it over, and hes the only thing they're bench had going. Also, look at the offensive rebounds between both teams. . .Tell me who is better. Mind you LA bigs were in foul trouble. what does that indicate say overall?
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This is gonna be a great series
Nuggets are gonna make the Lakers bring their A game every night
No more coasting
Nuggets are gonna make the Lakers bring their A game every night
No more coasting
You can say the same thing about Melo everyone they put on him is too small(including Kobe he said he is out of his weight class) and Odom will get in foul trouble
Melo has an inconsistant jumper though
Kobe doesn't?
I diagree melo isn't the same sorta go for the throat scorer Kobe is. Kobe will be shooting bad and still shoot it 35 times. melo if he's off will stop shooting.
I think Melo is in a groove with his deep ball but I think its fools gold.
Kobe has a better chance containing him than the Nuggets do guarding Kobe they just don't have anyone who stands a chance.
Kobe can force melo into some tough shots occasionally the airball and denying him the ball in the last 2 minutes.
I agree that Kobe on Melo is the best that the Lakers can do because while Kobe might not be as strong he is strong enough unless Melo gets in deep
Melo on Kobe is probably the best option but Melo isn't quick enough on the outside but is working very hard
I thought Dante Jones was stronger than he is Kobe is having his way with that dude
JR Smith is not there as a defender yet
Ideally neither team wants their star player guarding the other...too many fouls could be called, but it is really a good matchup really
Not as inconsistant as Melo
Im not gonna argue with you about who has a better jumper cuz we all know Kobe has a better one, but I can live with contested jumpers from anybody..you can't leave these dudes open
Im more concerned with points in the paint
The Nuggets overall was the best team tonight but when u can't hold down the lead vs the Lakers that's when u have a problem knowing that 24 is a beast so i really blame the Nuggets for not holding the lead an getting the chancing to lead by more but not getting the shots in the net when there where the best team overall so scout outs to the Lakers and fans but i still think nuggets got a lot more to offer can't wait for next game....
Plus just to throw in LeBron is better then Kobe
Plus just to throw in LeBron is better then Kobe 
The Nuggets overall was the best team tonight but when u can't hold down the lead vs the Lakers that's when u have a problem knowing that 24 is a beast so i really blame the Nuggets for not holding the lead an getting the chancing to lead by more but not getting the shots in the net when there where the best team overall so scout outs to the Lakers and fans but i still think nuggets got a lot more to offer can't wait for next game....
The Nuggets overall was the best team tonight but when u can't hold down the lead vs the Lakers that's when u have a problem knowing that 24 is a beast so i really blame the Nuggets for not holding the lead an getting the chancing to lead by more but not getting the shots in the net when there where the best team overall so scout outs to the Lakers and fans but i still think nuggets got a lot more to offer can't wait for next game....
Why is it that Kobe fans never say Kobe is better than Lebron but Kobe haters feel the need to always say somebody, anybody is better than Kobe?
Because at the age of LeBron beasting out in the NBA is outstanding yaheard!!!
Nothing but the truth.
The #1 determining factor on which team is better on a given night is the one that WON
wow
and i thought the celtics vs bulls thread got hella post.
500+ after just game1 ?
cant wait to see how many post are put up in here once the Lakers lose the series.
and i thought the celtics vs bulls thread got hella post.
500+ after just game1 ?
cant wait to see how many post are put up in here once the Lakers lose the series.
I heard this stat on ESPN tonight and have to recall the Lakers and Pistons Finals... The Lakers won game 1 on a clutch shot by Kobe over Rip Hamilton.. I think we all remember the Pistons taking the trophy that year.. Idk why no1 remembers this series, does it not count?
That being said, Lakers n 6!
wow
and i thought the celtics vs bulls thread got hella post.
500+ after just game1 ?
cant wait to see how many post are put up in here once the Lakers lose the series.
Believe me it wouldn't have been this many pages if the Lakers had been beating the Nuggets most of the game
Nuggets Thread!
@ all the stans who claim these threads get long due to the "haters". this might just be BGOL's biggest circle jerk ever.
i just read all 13 pages and bloo had the most correct basketball observations.
among them, the missed FTAs would come back to haunt them (maybe not enough to win them the game, but definitely enough to lose it). also he was right about j.r. smith's play: specifically shot selection and poor ball economy.
faker fans and tobe stans will probably never understand the fundamental concepts involved, but yes, the reason why the fakers were losing the game was because tobe was chucking AND not getting pau gasol involved. fakers lost Q1 31-23. or did that not happen? pau gasol only had 3 FGAs in Q1. or did that not happen?
pau gasol went 4-6 FGAs the REST OF THE GAME. but fakers fans and tobe stans are too dense (or too infatuated, or BOTH) to understand that THE REASON why the game was as close as it was is because tobe was chucking. but whatever. a win makes all flaws look golden, right?
ex. tobe had a hot Q4, going 4-5 FGAs. but tobe stans don't want to acknowledge that he was 9-23 FGAs (39.1%) the first 3 quarters. that couldn't possibly have been a negative detractor to his team, could it? nah.
i was also surprised (just a little, actually) read how many supposed fakers fans dumping on derek fisher. FORGET THE REALITY that derek fisher finished the game ONLY 1 MADE FG from shooting THE SAME FG% as tobe.
the nuggets have 2 unstable players: kenyon martin and j.r. smith. kenyon martin made contributions tonight. j.r. smith did not.
@ all the stans who claim these threads get long due to the "haters". this might just be BGOL's biggest circle jerk ever.i just read all 13 pages and bloo had the most correct basketball observations.
among them, the missed FTAs would come back to haunt them (maybe not enough to win them the game, but definitely enough to lose it). also he was right about j.r. smith's play: specifically shot selection and poor ball economy.
faker fans and tobe stans will probably never understand the fundamental concepts involved, but yes, the reason why the fakers were losing the game was because tobe was chucking AND not getting pau gasol involved. fakers lost Q1 31-23. or did that not happen? pau gasol only had 3 FGAs in Q1. or did that not happen?
pau gasol went 4-6 FGAs the REST OF THE GAME. but fakers fans and tobe stans are too dense (or too infatuated, or BOTH) to understand that THE REASON why the game was as close as it was is because tobe was chucking. but whatever. a win makes all flaws look golden, right?
ex. tobe had a hot Q4, going 4-5 FGAs. but tobe stans don't want to acknowledge that he was 9-23 FGAs (39.1%) the first 3 quarters. that couldn't possibly have been a negative detractor to his team, could it? nah.
i was also surprised (just a little, actually) read how many supposed fakers fans dumping on derek fisher. FORGET THE REALITY that derek fisher finished the game ONLY 1 MADE FG from shooting THE SAME FG% as tobe.
the nuggets have 2 unstable players: kenyon martin and j.r. smith. kenyon martin made contributions tonight. j.r. smith did not.
Nuggets Thread!
also wanted to comment on the trevor ariza steal.
great athleticism by trevor ariza to close on the ball, but he was almost the goat instead of the hero.
chauncey billups lost trevor ariza and got free. but STUPID ASS anthony carter hesitated and double-clutched the in-bound pass. that fraction of a second was all the time trevor ariza needed to recover and make a good play on the ball.
BTW, non-basketball fans would suggest that pau gasol had a bad night. but pau gasol had a tremendous night. 6 offensive rebounds, cleaning up his teammates junk. pau gasol converted 5 of those 6 offensive rebounds into points. how much did the fakers win by again?
also wanted to comment on the trevor ariza steal.
great athleticism by trevor ariza to close on the ball, but he was almost the goat instead of the hero.
chauncey billups lost trevor ariza and got free. but STUPID ASS anthony carter hesitated and double-clutched the in-bound pass. that fraction of a second was all the time trevor ariza needed to recover and make a good play on the ball.
BTW, non-basketball fans would suggest that pau gasol had a bad night. but pau gasol had a tremendous night. 6 offensive rebounds, cleaning up his teammates junk. pau gasol converted 5 of those 6 offensive rebounds into points. how much did the fakers win by again?
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Re: Nuggets Thread!
i just read all 13 pages and bloo had the most correct basketball observations.
among them, the missed FTAs would come back to haunt them (maybe not enough to win them the game, but definitely enough to lose it). also he was right about j.r. smith's play: specifically shot selection and poor ball economy.
faker fans and tobe stans will probably never understand the fundamental concepts involved, but yes, the reason why the fakers were losing the game was because tobe was chucking AND not getting pau gasol involved. fakers lost Q1 31-23. or did that not happen? pau gasol only had 3 FGAs in Q1. or did that not happen?
pau gasol went 4-6 FGAs the REST OF THE GAME. but fakers fans and tobe stans are too dense (or too infatuated, or BOTH) to understand that THE REASON why the game was as close as it was is because tobe was chucking. but whatever. a win makes all flaws look golden, right?
ex. tobe had a hot Q4, going 4-5 FGAs. but tobe stans don't want to acknowledge that he was 9-23 FGAs (39.1%) the first 3 quarters. that couldn't possibly have been a negative detractor to his team, could it? nah.
i was also surprised (just a little, actually) read how many supposed fakers fans dumping on derek fisher. FORGET THE REALITY that derek fisher finished the game ONLY 1 MADE FG from shooting THE SAME FG% as tobe.
the nuggets have 2 unstable players: kenyon martin and j.r. smith. kenyon martin made contributions tonight. j.r. smith did not.
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Pau should have been included more, and I do agree that his play today was good.
But, I must comment on your point about Derek Fisher's shooting. You cannot compare their impact based solely off shooting percentage. Derek Fisher is getting his shots from passes, he's not creating his own offense, nor is he drawing double teams. When teams play Fisher they play him straight up. They aren't playing him with one man on him, another shadowing him, and one more player constantly checking for Fisher.
If he faced anything like near the pressure Kobe gets he doesn't shoot even 42% like he did. I don't think he's capable of getting his own shot consistently while dealing with double teams, and teams gameplanning just to stop you. So your whole point there is moot.
Anyway, the real player to dump on, IMO is Walton. When he's out there he just looks like shit. Fisher has a better matchup this round compared to last. And as for Kobe shooting 46%, that's pretty good. No one needs to acknowledge that he was 9-23 because he was 13-28 for the game and they won.
Gasol will get the ball, but he's muscled out far too often.
But since you want to play shooting percentages, and since you act like everyone else on the team is better and more important than kobe
outside of Kobe, who shot 46 percent, the rest of the team shot 38%.
If you take out Gasol it drops to 35%.
If you take out Odom it goes to 25%.
So what is your point really?
The fact is, when the team is not aggressive, and when shots aren't falling, Kobe HAS to take shots.
i just read all 13 pages and bloo had the most correct basketball observations.
among them, the missed FTAs would come back to haunt them (maybe not enough to win them the game, but definitely enough to lose it). also he was right about j.r. smith's play: specifically shot selection and poor ball economy.
faker fans and tobe stans will probably never understand the fundamental concepts involved, but yes, the reason why the fakers were losing the game was because tobe was chucking AND not getting pau gasol involved. fakers lost Q1 31-23. or did that not happen? pau gasol only had 3 FGAs in Q1. or did that not happen?
pau gasol went 4-6 FGAs the REST OF THE GAME. but fakers fans and tobe stans are too dense (or too infatuated, or BOTH) to understand that THE REASON why the game was as close as it was is because tobe was chucking. but whatever. a win makes all flaws look golden, right?
ex. tobe had a hot Q4, going 4-5 FGAs. but tobe stans don't want to acknowledge that he was 9-23 FGAs (39.1%) the first 3 quarters. that couldn't possibly have been a negative detractor to his team, could it? nah.
i was also surprised (just a little, actually) read how many supposed fakers fans dumping on derek fisher. FORGET THE REALITY that derek fisher finished the game ONLY 1 MADE FG from shooting THE SAME FG% as tobe.
the nuggets have 2 unstable players: kenyon martin and j.r. smith. kenyon martin made contributions tonight. j.r. smith did not.
Pau should have been included more, and I do agree that his play today was good.
But, I must comment on your point about Derek Fisher's shooting. You cannot compare their impact based solely off shooting percentage. Derek Fisher is getting his shots from passes, he's not creating his own offense, nor is he drawing double teams. When teams play Fisher they play him straight up. They aren't playing him with one man on him, another shadowing him, and one more player constantly checking for Fisher.
If he faced anything like near the pressure Kobe gets he doesn't shoot even 42% like he did. I don't think he's capable of getting his own shot consistently while dealing with double teams, and teams gameplanning just to stop you. So your whole point there is moot.
Anyway, the real player to dump on, IMO is Walton. When he's out there he just looks like shit. Fisher has a better matchup this round compared to last. And as for Kobe shooting 46%, that's pretty good. No one needs to acknowledge that he was 9-23 because he was 13-28 for the game and they won.
Gasol will get the ball, but he's muscled out far too often.
But since you want to play shooting percentages, and since you act like everyone else on the team is better and more important than kobe
outside of Kobe, who shot 46 percent, the rest of the team shot 38%.
If you take out Gasol it drops to 35%.
If you take out Odom it goes to 25%.
So what is your point really?
The fact is, when the team is not aggressive, and when shots aren't falling, Kobe HAS to take shots.
i just read all 13 pages and bloo had the most correct basketball observations.
among them, the missed FTAs would come back to haunt them (maybe not enough to win them the game, but definitely enough to lose it). also he was right about j.r. smith's play: specifically shot selection and poor ball economy.
faker fans and tobe stans will probably never understand the fundamental concepts involved, but yes, the reason why the fakers were losing the game was because tobe was chucking AND not getting pau gasol involved. fakers lost Q1 31-23. or did that not happen? pau gasol only had 3 FGAs in Q1. or did that not happen?
pau gasol went 4-6 FGAs the REST OF THE GAME. but fakers fans and tobe stans are too dense (or too infatuated, or BOTH) to understand that THE REASON why the game was as close as it was is because tobe was chucking. but whatever. a win makes all flaws look golden, right?
ex. tobe had a hot Q4, going 4-5 FGAs. but tobe stans don't want to acknowledge that he was 9-23 FGAs (39.1%) the first 3 quarters. that couldn't possibly have been a negative detractor to his team, could it? nah.
i was also surprised (just a little, actually) read how many supposed fakers fans dumping on derek fisher. FORGET THE REALITY that derek fisher finished the game ONLY 1 MADE FG from shooting THE SAME FG% as tobe.
the nuggets have 2 unstable players: kenyon martin and j.r. smith. kenyon martin made contributions tonight. j.r. smith did not.
Lakers Win.
Adjustments will get PG involved more on offense. Denver had many more days to game plan and they still lost game one.
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I heard this stat on ESPN tonight and have to recall the Lakers and Pistons Finals... The Lakers won game 1 on a clutch shot by Kobe over Rip Hamilton.. I think we all remember the Pistons taking the trophy that year.. Idk why no1 remembers this series, does it not count?
That being said, Lakers n 6!
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Yes, they are. The lakers are the most talented team in the West but they aren't the best because of their lack of basketball IQ, mental toughness, and cohesiveness.
The argument that the lakers "beat themselves" is an excuse used by delusional fans.
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so what you are saying (as always), is the reason this game was close, is because kobe took too many shots? Not because of stupid fouls committed by Odom, Kobe, Ariza and Pao (The fouls were probably committed because of kobe right). Not turnovers committed by Odom (there was a sequence in which he turned the ball over, then got a pass, traveled right under the basket for a sure 2 points, turning the ball over again. (funny how every starter other than Bynum had more turn overs than kobe, even walton and odom had more). Then the dumb foul he committed as soon as he came in the game. Not because of Odom and Waltons hesitation to shoot open shots, instead they pass back to each other hoping the other will think of something to do. Not because of fisher starting 1 for 6. Is that what you are saying? The only reason the game was close, is because of Kobe solely? No other reasons? If thats NOT what you are saying, why didnt you mention it?
Also, who was guarding Anthony during the first half? was that kobes fault too? I seem to recall Nene getting a few buckets as well. Kobes fault too huh.
Pao had no opportunities to get involved? You give no credit to Denvers defense inside, with Nene, Kenyon and Chris clogging the paint? Kobe is the only player not to pass the ball to gasol? So everyone passed gasol the ball except kobe? Got it.
Yeah, he sure was chucking, chucking each time he passed the ball to Fisher for possibly the two most important shots of the game.
so what you are saying (as always), is the reason this game was close, is because kobe took too many shots? Not because of stupid fouls committed by Odom, Kobe, Ariza and Pao (The fouls were probably committed because of kobe right). Not turnovers committed by Odom (there was a sequence in which he turned the ball over, then got a pass, traveled right under the basket for a sure 2 points, turning the ball over again. (funny how every starter other than Bynum had more turn overs than kobe, even walton and odom had more). Then the dumb foul he committed as soon as he came in the game. Not because of Odom and Waltons hesitation to shoot open shots, instead they pass back to each other hoping the other will think of something to do. Not because of fisher starting 1 for 6. Is that what you are saying? The only reason the game was close, is because of Kobe solely? No other reasons? If thats NOT what you are saying, why didnt you mention it?
Also, who was guarding Anthony during the first half? was that kobes fault too? I seem to recall Nene getting a few buckets as well. Kobes fault too huh.
Pao had no opportunities to get involved? You give no credit to Denvers defense inside, with Nene, Kenyon and Chris clogging the paint? Kobe is the only player not to pass the ball to gasol? So everyone passed gasol the ball except kobe? Got it.
Yeah, he sure was chucking, chucking each time he passed the ball to Fisher for possibly the two most important shots of the game.
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excellent points
... but LA got the W... is there a more important stat? I think not
i just read all 13 pages and bloo had the most correct basketball observations.
among them, the missed FTAs would come back to haunt them (maybe not enough to win them the game, but definitely enough to lose it). also he was right about j.r. smith's play: specifically shot selection and poor ball economy.
faker fans and tobe stans will probably never understand the fundamental concepts involved, but yes, the reason why the fakers were losing the game was because tobe was chucking AND not getting pau gasol involved. fakers lost Q1 31-23. or did that not happen? pau gasol only had 3 FGAs in Q1. or did that not happen?
pau gasol went 4-6 FGAs the REST OF THE GAME. but fakers fans and tobe stans are too dense (or too infatuated, or BOTH) to understand that THE REASON why the game was as close as it was is because tobe was chucking. but whatever. a win makes all flaws look golden, right?
ex. tobe had a hot Q4, going 4-5 FGAs. but tobe stans don't want to acknowledge that he was 9-23 FGAs (39.1%) the first 3 quarters. that couldn't possibly have been a negative detractor to his team, could it? nah.
i was also surprised (just a little, actually) read how many supposed fakers fans dumping on derek fisher. FORGET THE REALITY that derek fisher finished the game ONLY 1 MADE FG from shooting THE SAME FG% as tobe.
the nuggets have 2 unstable players: kenyon martin and j.r. smith. kenyon martin made contributions tonight. j.r. smith did not.
excellent points
... but LA got the W... is there a more important stat? I think not
