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Because now I just don't see it.

IMO, I don't see Lebron losing to the Celtics in 6 last years finals if he was playing on the Lakers. I just don't see it happening. The Cavs took the Celtics to 7 games in 7 tough games. The Lakers lost in 6, getting blown out once and blowing a 23 point lead to lose a game as well.

And then now, the Lakers struggling with the Rockets. The Rockets aint no slouch but there also not playing with their 2 best players and the Lakers are REALLY struggling against them. The Lakers are pretty much played at full strength , except with Bynum being a little banged up. Theres no reason they should be losing like this.

You put Lebron on the Lakers and I just don't see them in any of the tough positions they've been in with Kobe. I just don't see how anyone could say Kobe is better than Lebron at this point.
 
As a long time Laker fan I am ashamed at what I am watching... I agree though King James is becoming the best player in the league by far and Kobe is starting to not be what he used to be...
 
We talking one on one what that player did for his team hell yea kobe got james. I don't like coon ass kobe but that man a beast in the game.
 
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Hiding said:
We talking one on one what that player did for his team hell yea kobe got james. I don't like coon as kobe but that man a beast in the game.
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No doubt, I'm really not trying to take anything away from Kobe because he is a great basketball player.

I'm willing to give the scoring edge to Kobe but as an overall basketball player? Lebron is better than Kobe at this point.

A more comparable comparison would be Wade vs Kobe right now.

Lebron is just that much better right now IMO.
 
cats dont see it... niggas on here call in kobe the greatest of all time :hmm:

i really think that kobe (and dwayne) is gon spend the rest of his career tryin to prove they can win w/o shaq.


all lebron need was a team.... i followed him from the night of october 29,2003 in sacramento to the present day.


lebron is everything. a rare talent... 6'9" 265 (or 270) with 4.3 speed.

coaches around the leauge admit that lebron is pretty much unstopable and unguarable

the cavs broomed to the east finals.

lakers in danger of not even makin it to the finals, let alone the west finals
 
Anthony-Cruz said:

No doubt, I'm really not trying to take anything away from Kobe because he is a great basketball player.

I'm willing to give the scoring edge to Kobe but as an overall basketball player? Lebron is better than Kobe at this point.

A more comparable comparison would be Wade vs Kobe right now.

Lebron is just that much better right now IMO.
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why give the scoring edge to kobe?
bron scores more at a better %
 
therealjondoe said:
why give the scoring edge to kobe?
bron scores more at a better %
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I know he does

But Kobe has a more polished and complete offensive game and I think Kobe can still go for 35 a night if he really wanted to. Kobe can flat out score the basketball.

But I see what you're saying, it is very comparable.
 
dot87 said:
cats dont see it... niggas on here call in kobe the greatest of all time :hmm:

i really think that kobe (and dwayne) is gon spend the rest of his career tryin to prove they can win w/o shaq.


all lebron need was a team.... i followed him from the night of october 29,2003 in sacramento to the present day.


lebron is everything. a rare talent... 6'9" 265 (or 270) with 4.3 speed.

coaches around the leauge admit that lebron is pretty much unstopable and unguarable

the cavs broomed to the east finals.

lakers in danger of not even makin it to the finals, let alone the west finals
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"But, But, But, It's The East, The West Is So Much Better" - Laker Fan

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
ReactQ said:
LeBron would avg 12 assists a game playing with the Lakers. :yes:
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I don't see why he couldn't.

The Lakers have shooters on the outside and one of the best classic PF's in the game in Gasol. Yeah, he is a little soft but if he had Lebron dumping him the rock, which Lebron would, he would probably be averaging more and Lebron's assist would go up. Especially playing with Odom and Bynum. Lebron would be setting alot of guys up in that triangle.
 
Going with Kobe. I gotta say that one to many times Kobe has just not shown the killer instinct during critical moments in games.
 
I don't think people are giving Shane Battier enough credit. Battier and Tayshaun Prince play Kobe the toughest because both of them are long so it's difficult for him to drive past them and they always have a hand in his face so he doesn't get any easy jump shots.

One game Craig Sager showed a manual that Battier had on how to defend Kobe. He's very disciplined and won't do dumb shit that Artest would do.
 
trick20 said:
the rockets will do the same to the cavs....if they make it past the magic:yes:
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the magic or shoud i say the TRAGIC, are not a mentally tough enuff team.

explain to me why they could of been up 3-1 but they cant beat an injured celtics team... plus dwight all pointin finger at the coach...

they cant fuck wit the cavs with HCA in a 7 game series
 
In the past I thought that Kobe was more spectacular and more of an offensive threat, but I always liked LeBron's overall game, especially his head. But now, its not even close, LeBron has the offensive aggressiveness that he was lacking in the past, his outside J may not be on Kobe's level yet, but knowing when to take the shot, makes it just as effective. LeBron dominate every in the paint, 'there are times I can swear, he is able to dunk at will', while Kobe has definitely lost a step. The D, rebounds, and assist are areas where LeBron definitely dominates Kobe, but there are 2 areas where LeBron game is much better than Kobe and yet these two areas don't even have a stat to measure them. These two areas ares heart and ability to make his teammates better, two areas where LeBron's game has grown the most, since last year.
The only area I give Kobe a real edge over James is free throw. and even this area is closer than it should be because LeBron makes up for his lack of accuracy, by getting on the line more.
 
RoadRage said:
In the past I thought that Kobe was more spectacular and more of an offensive threat, but I always liked LeBron's overall game, especially his head. But now, its not even close, LeBron has the offensive aggressiveness that he was lacking in the past, his outside J may not be on Kobe's level yet, but knowing when to take the shot, makes it just as effective. LeBron dominate every in the paint, 'there are times I can swear, he is able to dunk at will', while Kobe has definitely lost a step. The D, rebounds, and assist are areas where LeBron definitely dominates Kobe, but there are 2 areas where LeBron game is much better than Kobe and yet these two areas don't even have a stat to measure them. These two areas ares heart and ability to make his teammates better, two areas where LeBron's game has grown the most, since last year.
The only area I give Kobe a real edge over James is free throw. and even this area is closer than it should be because LeBron makes up for his lack of accuracy, by getting on the line more.
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kobe is more of a ball hog....


lebron damn near averages a triple double...


remember those game against the knicks?


kobe had 61 points and 2 assists


lebron had 52 and 12 assists and 9 rebounds
 
The thing is Kobe never evolved his game. It's similar to the discussion of Allen Iverson not elevating his game as well and not being able to take it to the next level. I still think Jordan is the greastest basketball player I've ever seen.

Unlike Kobe and A.I. who mainly played to their strengths in natural talent and ability; Jordan evolved into an all around player-i.e. defensive player of the year, first-team all defense, scoring titles, MVP's, the list goes on... Additionally, Jordan is probably the greatest 2 guard to play in the triangle offense, because of his abitlity to develop a formidable post game. Whenever a game was tight Jordan was always able to post up and shoot his patented fadeaway jumper.

In tight situations Kobe doesn't compare to Jordan. Kobe still hasn't developed his game to a level where he can dominate the game while controling the tempo of the game. In tight situations Kobe 9 out 10 times is chucking the ball or making a erratic decision. Jordan on the other hand, dominated and controled the tempo of the game because of his fadeaway jumber, and because he played great defense in crunch time-i.e.Jordan stealing the ball from Malone in the 6th game of the finals in 1998.

LeBron is the most impressive ball player in the new millenium, and if he is able to win the championship this year, we will all be witnesses to the comming of the crowned King of Basketball. Unlike A.I. and Kobe, LeBron is able to leaverage his raw skill and ability with high basketball IQ. LeBron has what Jordan and all the greats in Basketbal have, and that is the abiltiy to both dominate the game with raw talent and ability and to have the experience and B-ball IQ to control the tempo of the game.
 
*clears Throat* I Don't Know If Yall Saw When They Played Each Other Twice This Year..it Seamed To Me Lebron Was Exposed By Kobe From Not Having A Mid Range Game(jump Shot) Yeah Bron Is A Beast And A Freak Of Nature To Be That Big And Tha Fast..but To Me Kobe Is More Skilled...
 
Better scorer: Kobe
Better Defender (one on one & double teaming): Kobe
Better 3 point shot: Kobe
Better at creating their own shot: Kobe
Better at tucking the ball like it's 4 and goal and taking everybody to the rim when he's dunking: Lebron James
 
chemist said:
I don't think people are giving Shane Battier enough credit. Battier and Tayshaun Prince play Kobe the toughest because both of them are long so it's difficult for him to drive past them and they always have a hand in his face so he doesn't get any easy jump shots.
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point given. shane battier is a really good and intelligent defender. that said kobe got shut down by paul pierce in the finals last season. PAUL PIERCE. crafty player - but his best pure athletic days are long behind him. he's fat - not in the best condition - knees probably shot.

I'm gonna make a point and it might come to pass especially now when the first generation of high school ballers are going into their latter part of their careers. the high school to pro ballers are gonna fall off faster than the college ballers due to premature wear and tear on the body.

18 year old males are still in puberty and excessive wear and tear on the body can cause that to actually turn off - from a biochemical standpoint - too much oxidative stress. this is why take a pair of twins - feed them equally in separate environments and give them the same creature comforts except give one a great deal of stress and responsibility - and the stressed one ends up shorter, with greater oxidative damage to his body - despite the two being the same age. my hypothesis is that in general the high school to pro ballers will experience significant and early decline in skillset - probably to the tune of 4 years or so.

to any ball fan kobe has been on an athletic slide for about the last three years or so. the classic sign of a fading slasher - HE NO LONGER SLASHES. kobe lives and dies by the jump shot - and he's not ice cold like jordan was in the end of his career - he's a STREAKY SHOOTER. so he's being exposed. plus kobe is not a great leader - he has emotional blowups on the court. he criticizes his team but doesn't do enough to rally them up.

no here's gonna come the headcrack. lebron's decline is gonna come quickly too because of all the weight he's carrying. I really hope they exaggerate when they say dude is 270. if so - he's gonna be a streaky jump shooter in 5 years max. no hate - just an observation.

i used to play a lot of street ball. one time playing in west 4th - i'm like 21 - my eyes opened for the 1st time - I seen these 28-29 year old dudes with the old man pigeon toed basketball walk. it dawned on me that their knees were fucked up - they were walking gingerly. that day I scored 29 pts in a game - announced my retirement - and put myself out to stud. fuck that shit. :smh:
 
The_Black_Republican said:
Better scorer: Kobe
Better Defender (one on one & double teaming): Kobe
Better 3 point shot: Kobe
Better at creating their own shot: Kobe
Better at tucking the ball like it's 4 and goal and taking everybody to the rim when he's dunking: Lebron James
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pretty much sums it up:yes:
 
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