Pick Up Artists: Gaming and Seduction

[Deuterion]

been reading and listening to this shit for a while now and also been up on tariq's mack lessons aa well as other mackish materials.

These two communities seduction and mack are generally the same. They need to stop hating on one another. Has nothing to do w/ being fake. There is a fuckin science to all this shit. Then again it really is simple. Grab your fuckin ballz talk to the chick in question, isolate, number, date.

That's pretty much it but then you can't sell a bajillion editions of your book if you give people the answer in the first one.

 

[METHODIST]

Here is a document I wrote to a friend, not Colin Powell friendly. It outlines the basic methodology of pick up.

Concrete rules:
• Keep your options open
• Fake it till you make it.
• Know your end goal, know what you want out of this and learn game accordingly. If you want one night stands and a main wife, your game will be different than a man who is a bachelor with no wifee.
• This is not just about becoming an Alpha but it’s also about raising your standards and becoming a quality person

Caution!!!!:
• This [learning and practicing solid] game takes up a lot of time and may interfere with your work and school. People have dropped out of school over learning game.
House cleaning
• Travel!!!!! Work out, eat well, wear at least one interesting piece of clothing/jewelery (peacocking). Solve your inner conflicts, read. Be adventerous, go new places eat new foods, do thing you have never done before, persue your hobbies be passionate about something.
• This document may seem long and complicated, highly nuanced, and contextual but after a few months it becomes very simple and routine. You no longer begin to think about it but actually just do it.
• There are many styles and models of game. Swinggcat have a method, Bad Boy has a method which is primarily Cold/direct approach. Styles have the Annihilation method. Mystery have the mystery method (which is possibly the most complex) and is the indirect approach.
• Create an identity, if you are a student, that should not be your primary identity, that’s boring. But if you organize on campus that can be your primary identity. What do you do? “I am student organizer, sorta like MLK did back in the Civil Rights movement, you know? I teach people that there are strength in numbers through organization.”
• Write down and memorize your stories and openers, get like five solid ones of each.
• When on a date bounce from one place to a next, it communicates faster rapport and seems like you went on many dates. Try doing things she never done before (horse back riding, archery etc) search craigslist. (Always know your town.)
• Download MTV’s The Pickup Artist Season 1 & 2 and see some of these basics tactics in action because some of these tactics is hard to describe in words.
• Never tell her negative things about yourself; never complain about your problems.
• Get a kiss ASAP Do not wait until at the end of the date, worse time to get it.
• Get a kiss as soon as you can at the beginning of day two especially if you made out the first before that.
• She will shit test you, don’t fall for them. Example “you are such an ass hole”
Wrong response: “No I am not”
Correct response: I am bigger than an asshole, I am a whole ass *smile*
Example 3: You are such a pervert.
You: yes I am just like Quagmire, giddy giddy *make her laugh*
• Always frame her “attitude”/ behavior as cute, never get upset.
“Her you have no G”
Wrong answer: Yes I do!
Correct answer (You): You are so cute when you are trying to be mean, you reminded me of those mean girls in high school. You should teach me some game.
• Always calibrate( testing to see how far along you are). Look out for IOI (Indicators of Interest), hair brushing, stalling and standing around, scratching face, wrist, shoulders, licking lips, asking about you etc.

Openers (Obama and Chris Brown):
For example, you can utilize Obama openings on black women; I made these up myself, they work trust me, I tested them

Example: "Let me ask y’all a quick question, I only have a few minutes, I have to get back to my friends, Do you all think Obama is sexy? The reason I ask is because I heard my 15 year old cousin says she would sleep with him."

…or you can open with Chris Brown and Rihanna.

Caution: Don't forget to root your openers i.e. give a false time constraint ( I have to get back to my friends) and say why you are asking because you do not want them to ask "are you taking a survey” or in black women's case, they can say "what are you a cop?" Your Body language should communicate that you are about to leave the set during the opening. Therefore your body should be turned

Example: "Let me get y’all opinion on something, do you think it’s right for Rihanna to take back with Chris brown"? Because I was talking to a female friend of mine and she said, she would take him back if she loved him.
If she says: (No) “Don’t you believe in love and forgiveness?” or are (Yes) “Are you willing to sacrifice your bodily for harm for love, you know Oprah said if a man hits you once he will hit you again? Don't force the opener, if it dies and they go off topic fine, you already open them up. Start talking about he next thing that comes to mind. You must dominate the first five minutes of conversation, don’t let them (women)get distracted

I got this one from Styles aka Neil Strauss (Usher Opening):

Example: Quick opinion ladies, I have to go xxx place so I can’t stay long, but do you think it’s cool for a 19 year old girl to have a poster of Usher on her wall? (Don't wait for answer, stack forward/start talking/continue with the opener). Now what about a 19 year old boy? Well, the reason I am asking is because both my niece and nephew both have a poster of usher on their bedroom wall. Should I be worried? (If my nephew knew I used this few months ago, he would a kick me ...lol)

…then you can go with a neg (a disqualifier) for the target (woman you want to pick up).

Neg/Disqualifier: statement that disqualify one's self as a potential pursuant so it lowers her guards and seems like the PUA have no interest in her. Be Careful negs are not meant to insult her.

example of Negs for black women ( I made these up as I was typing this document):

• Is that your real hair? No, weaves are cute if you wear them right.
• Are those nails real, no? they looks so real.
• Nice shirt/skirt/jeans all the girls wear those. My aunt has one just like it. (I’d avoid saying my mother, cause she may neg back with “are you a mama’s boy”)
• Can you take a sincere complement? “You have crooked teeth/dark eye lids/ chubby cheeks but your imperfections make you beautiful. I dig that you are comfortable with that.
• Orange matches your skin nicely but why so many bright colors, it’s not spring yet.

Remember for the first 3-5 minutes, you will have to carry and dominate the conversation, and then get her participating.

Basic structure of Pick up (Mystery Method)
*Mystery Method is more complicated than this, it is rooted in phases and stages but here is a basic outline.
Open>>>then possible neg or use neg as an opener

>>>>then DHV (demonstrate higher value) and you can also devalue her experience here too.

DHV through routines or stories about yourself that communicates a few 1 or 2 of the

5 main Alpha male qualities:

1. You are a leader of men (Tell a story that communicates this)
2. You are willing to emote (tell a story for example, you felt sad when you puppy died.)
3. You are preselected by other women (the time you and your ex girlfriend went to Jamaica together, yes talk about other women but not too much).
4. You are a protector of family (The time you thought your lil’ sis about the birds and the bees)
5. You are a successful risk taker (the time you went Bunji jumping...skying diving...racing down the high way at 120mph, the time you climb blue mountain, the time you walked around your neighborhood smashing mail boxes.)
Caution: Just tell real/true stories that congruent with your real life and personality.

Example of Devalue her experience:
Her: I went to the British museum of Art in Connecticut.
You: that’s cool, I went to the British Museum in London, it was amazing. You ever went to london.

Example 2
Her: I love the Chinese food, Wing Chungs have good chicken wings.
You: yeah, Wing Chungs is good, there is this really great chinese resurant in china town, my friends and I go there often. You cook your own food right at the table. Last time I went there I had the octopus. (you show you have higher values than her and you are also adventerous by trying octopus)

then >>>Routines (cube, strawberry fields, magic, palm reading, jokes, cold reading...etc...etc tease her, make her laugh. make up your own routeins.)

Example of some Routines: http://www.seductionbase.com/seduction/cat/In_the_Middle/EC/75.html

…..remember kino she her throughout all this (open with a kino(hand shake, tap on the shoulder):

KINO: means to touch. you must touch her as much as possible making it seem natural. If you can open by touching her then great.

START LMR (Last Minute Resistance): “Not to give you a big head, but when you left, I felt a void took place...I missed our convo, I wanted you to get your ass back here as fast as possible, but also keep in mind I have a short attention span. That’s a feeling I wanted to share with you. ”

Kino basics and Advance:
• Pinky swear
• Thumb wrestling
• Hold her and salsa spin her (A must!!)
• Pick her up
• Squeeze her hands gently, if she squeeze back she is attracted (A must)
• Give her a pound, pull her in close bump shoulders tickle her palms slowly/or rub palms slowly as you pull away.
• Fist bump like Obama and Michelle, open into spear fingers and make explosion sound.
• Hold her waist and ask for an excuse, if you are passing by.
• Claw her shoulder and turn her whole body towards you.
• High five, if she says something smart, high five, she pronounces your name correct. High five
• Salsa spin her and pretend you are slow dancing right there.
• Put your hand around her shoulder and point with your other hand and turn her whole body (“look at that”)
• She touches you, “hey that’s going to cost you” * slap her hands* “next time it’s going to be on the ass”
• High five, that was a weak high five, high five me like you are ass slapping, that was till weak, do it for real, turn around get her to slap you on the ass. (compliance test).
• Give me your hands (compliance test), tickle her palms. Play children’s games( anything hand game funy in junior school is funny on dates because you alredy set the frame you are a fun guy who knows when to be serious if he has to. Remember you are not a preforming clown, you are fun. women don't want to cuck the clown.)
• "Give me your hands" do a trust test. Squeeze her hands, lower your hands, if she lowers with you tell her she pasts. This can lead to a kiss close by putting her hands around your shoulders and yours around her waist, tell her “it’s a tension test.” *feel her lower back, tell her she is tense. You: "Are you impulsive?" Her: “No” You: "Well, I am." *kiss her. *
• Eskimo kisses
• Nuzzle her “I am trying so hard not to kiss you” push her away, don’t kiss her creates tension.
• Massage her hands and neck.
• If you receive a phone call, massage her hands while you are on the phone.
• Scratch the back of her neck.
• Pulls the back of her hair, close to her neck...say: "ok let’s slow this down"
• Hold her from the back, kiss her head. “Ok get off of me” push her gently off (creates tension)


Basic Body language
• Always appear smiley face and happy
• Always be charismatic
• Always be spontaneous in speech and actions.
• Your energy should always be higher or equal to hers. This will result in her being happy and energetic which she will associate with you (NLP)
• Stand tall, chest up, shoulders square.
• Sit and lean back, legs open, take up space.
• Never fold your arms
• Don’t put your hands in your pocket, only when you are doing cowboy stance and your fingers pointing downward to your genitals.
• When you are in a loud environment (club, bar, party) never lean in to talk, it communicates neediness, therefore talk loudly.
• Always take the anchor position in a set (the women you are talking to), e.g. stand against the wall and have women stand around you. “salsa spin one of the women out and take the anchor spot. Sit at the head of the table etc.

Then>>>>Isolate her by herself

Then >>>Qualification – now only reward her for good things. Make her demonstrate DHV’s (high values) to you. Qualification should not be like a job interview. It should be natural. Questions mixed in with fluff talk. Best way to qualify is to ask about things that you are generally looking for in a woman.

Some of my personal qualifications
• Coax her into telling stories about herself.
• Where are you from? "Trinidad? Really? Trini girls are trouble, I usually stay away from Trini girls" Let her justify that that’s a false concept (jumping through her hoop)
• Are you a loyal friend? Whats the most loyal thing you ever did for a friend. Reward her. “good job, that’s awesome”
• Can you cook? (“Yes I can,” (You: “kudos to you,” I dig that I can cook my ass off so any woman I am with has to be able to cook.”) What s your specialities?
• Are you fun loving person? What are some fun things you did lately?
• Are you adventurous? (Yes, tell me what make you adventurous? You are so fucking awesome, give me hug,” *hugs* “ok not too long, I will start charging you for feeling up the goods.”)<<push pull + reward.
• You are in school? Really? Are you smart or are you a party girl? What are your grades like, let me see if you are smart? (Jokingly: really? I did well in that class too(reward), now we are BFF we took the same class, now that we are BFF this does not mean you can call me all the time)<<< push pull. Or now jokingly say “now that we are BFF I am going to call you ever half an hour.” *smile*
• It is said that people learn things every day about themselves what have you learned about yourself today/Lately?
• Beauty is very common, her in NY, I meet a lot of beautiful women what are three things about you that would make me want to get to know you? (also a DHV i.e “I meet a lot of beautiful women.”)
• Beauty is very common, here in FL, but a great personality, a warm spirit is essential to a truly beautiful human being, what do you have going for you other than your beauty?
• What separates you from any other hole in the wall?
• What make you special other than your good looks?
• ***True story: pretty black girl comes up to me in a club and starts talking about how much funn she is having after she see me and my boy having loads of funn. Immediately, I say to her “And you are? And what makes you special?” She laughs, says her name and start to justify sell herself to me.

Structure of qualification:…qualify...fluff talk...fluff talk… qualify fluff talk...qualify.
Caution: to shoot qualification question one after another seems weird, like a job interview.

Bounce to a different location>>>

then >>>Kino Escalation


>>>Comfort Material: you like such and such? Me too, no shit! Give her a hug, then push her away, "get now get off me; don't get any ideas." (push-pull) *smile*

Show attraction to her – only when you ask specific DHV questions of her and she reveal higher value, then you reward her by showing attraction

• What do you want to be when you grow up; and please don't say like Lady Saw/Jill Scott/Destra/Zoelah/Bullfighter/ Race Car Driver/Princess/Beyonce? *she will laugh*

Her: "I am not sure what I want to be."
You: You know you are like a candle in the wind, like Kind David says.
Her: Who is King David?
You: You don’t know King David, the Trini reggae singer?
Her: No
You: He is from Trinidad, he sang the song “Candle in the Wind”

*You then create an open a loop of stories. Open loops keeps people locked in, it prolongs your material also and avoids dead air. You can start talk about King David and how Trini reggae has taken off recently in comparison to jamaican reggae. Then jump to talking about Trinidad, when you visited there or your best friend from there. Then return to King David and finish loop, then return to Trinidad finish loop, return to reggae finish loop. Then conclude by saying:

You: Yeah you are like a candle in the wind, but I am sure you will get it together. (that’s about 5-10 mins of material)

• You: What are some of your personal goals?
Her: they are……..
You: really, me too, I want to someday own my own business/ inspire people/ whatever (we have so much in common, this is really weird.)
*Perfect time to implement a routein*
Routein: “We never be together routein”
You: "You know we could never be together,”
Her: Why?
You: “We are too much alike, we would fight all the time, than have great make up sex, then fight again, the great make up sex again, then fight again untill we kill each other” *Smile* <<<---also push pull.


Kiss close/gambit:• First Kiss: Cup her face, holds the back of her neck, pay attention to how she wants to be kissed.

Calibrate to make sure she is ready and go in for the kiss.

Kiss Routine: You looking like you want to kiss me?
Her: No:
You: I did not say you could,( immediately start stacking forward/talking, so she does not have time to ask if you are upset.)
Her: Yes:
You: *Kiss her*
Her: Not here
You *Immediately go back into material* don’t bounce right away, bounce later, then kiss.
Her: I am not sure..then you kiss her.

• During tension test (see above): kiss her.
• Attempt to tell her something her in the ears, come close to her face, kiss her.

Sex (LMR)
Article by Unknown:

Definition:

LMR stands for Last Minute Resistance and is an emotional response that women get before they have sex with a new guy. When LMR kicks in her logical mind is debating whether or not this is a smart decision. Society has socially conditioned women to think that casual sex is wrong, and that if they allow themselves to partake in it, they will be labeled as a slut. Women in general do everything they can to avoid that feeling. LMR can also occur because she is evolutionarily hardwired to fear that you will get her pregnant, leave, and won't provide for her offspring. It does not matter if she logically knows that there is a gauntlet of birth control methods at her disposal to prevent pregnancy.
She also knows, whether she is aware of it or not, that if you leave her pregnant and alone, her chances of aligning with a male of value and status is significantly lowered. Most men (not all) don't like the idea of having to take care of another man’s child, and they view it as a burden.

It is also important to understand that women WANT sex more than men do. Why? Because it feels so damn good to them! A women’s body is designed to enjoy sex more than a man’s. However, women have to overcome a bunch of physiological barriers before they allow themselves the pleasure.
Women that are comfortable about their sexuality will usually display less LMR but if she isn't as sexually inhibited and comfortable with her sexuality, LMR is more likely to be triggered.
Common Mistakes Guys Make When Getting LMR

They Pressure her:
1) They beg her
2) They tell her it’s going to be so awesome.
3) They argue with her

Basically, most men try to use logic to convince women to have sex with them.

When the actions listed above occur, it’s makes you look like you are just out to get sex from her. You also come off very needy, and as we all know, that’s a major turn off for women.

Here is an example of a Logical Discussion.

Incorrect way:

Girl: We just met. I feel like I barely know you Roger.
You: Well, we spent the whole night talking. Were both attracted to each other and you know it. There’s no reason we shouldn’t continue. Come on it will feel good.

Correct way:

Girl: We just met. I feel like I barely know you Roger.
You: I know. I feel the same way. It’s crazy that we have such great chemistry. This never happens.

If you are able to get to the point were you are putting on a condom and she says:

Girl: What are you doing? Did you think that we were going to have sex tonight?
You: Nope, but I don't know you very well. I am just trying to be safe just in case.

LMR Prevention:

The best way to avoiding something, is to simply prevent it from occurring in the first place. To prevent LMR, simply strengthen the connection between you and her.

The more that you have built comfort, connection, and trust, the more likely she is to FEEL like you are not just going to change after you have sex. It helps tremendously if the woman feels safe with you.

Women have to convince themselves that you are NOT that creepy guy who’s going to get sex from her, change, and then leave.

Overcoming LMR:

One of the keys to surpassing LMR is to mix banter and teasing with emotional moments from your real life.

I could be at one moment talking about how much I miss being away from my family, then throw in something like, "you couldn't handle my family. They would eat you for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. That’s why this will never work."

….usually say all theses things while sexually escalating.

I have personally executed this countless times and have had major success with it.
This mix of emotions keeps the attraction spiked and builds comfort with her. As her emotional state skyrockets and she starts feeling really good, her logical mind will be overcome by that emotional state, thus lowering her LMR threshold. If you have executed this correctly, her perceived value of you has now become realized value, and she will let you proceed accordingly.

Basically, when she first met you she thought you were a certain way. But now after being with you and being able to observe you for a period of time, she has now realized that she was right about her perceived notions of you.

So when LMR kicks in:
1. Stop. Act cool and calm. Build more of a connection with her while spiking the attraction with teasing, kino escalation, role-reversal lines, and banter.
2. Then try escalating and see if you can get past the point were she resisted you the last time.

One of the paramount things is to be UNREACTIVE and show that sex doesn't matter that much to you.
And it shouldn’t because you have other women in your life!!!!

Additional things to say during LMR:

• She says: We should stop:
You: “I know we should stop, we certainly should, I certainly should not be doing this, bite her and make growling noises"
• I don’t want to steal the diamond between your legs, I just want to get to it so we can get pass it and have more fun.


Better Sex for Men (Brad P et al.)
During Sex: these are things men should do to women. N.B. Leading women in life is as important as leading them in the bedroom!
5 Techniques for Men
1. Direct Stimulation: touching, massaging, licking etc
2. Tension - create tension in the woman's body.
a. Stop-start your action, create build up of tension
b. Runs hands slowly along body.
c. Dirty talk
3. Mild Pain
a. Biting (thighs, nipples etc)
b. Pinching
c. Light slapping (ass)
d. Hair pulling
4. Mental stimulation
1. Dirty talk
a. "Your pussy is so wet"
b. You are making my cock so hard
c. Suck that shit till you get all that tussin out.
5. Lead up - Increase and decrease intensity
a. Start slow if you are in a relaxed environment then build up speed. If not in a relaxed environment (public rest room) go with the intensity.
b. Tell her when to cum (leading, her even in the bedroom.
General Sex, Mental, and Physical Tips
Leading: She says "fuck me like this or that," fuck her completely differently. Make her get use to your way, your method; your leadership in the bedroom is as important as it is in real life. She should not be leading; you should; additionally if you fuck her how she tells you, you are falling in line with some other man's program. Unless it’s your woman for years and you trained her.

1. When fingering and licking the vagina pay close attention to how she reacts. (Collaboration). In fact pay attention to her entire bodily reactions. Go with the move/lick/touch she reacts to best and continue with that. When your finger is in the vagina, massaging the G/deep Spot while you lick and feel that she tightens, continue with that lick.

2. If possible, like what they teach in massage techniques, keep touching her for the entire act of sex; never remove your touch until after "cuddling."

3. You should make her cum at least 1/3 times before she even sees your dick!
You can do this by touching/massaging her "G spot,” and/or firmly pressing on her deep spot, with your fingers, along with oral stimulation.
Finding the deep spot: http://fastseduction.com/shade/2001-09-19a.shtml


4. When you are licking the vagina, if she ever tells you to speed up, never speed up; especially if you have already collaborated.
Better Vagina licking: http://www.tube8.com/lesbian/nina-hartley-teaching-to-eat-pussy/65419/

5. Touching: Build up tension, touch and lick around the vagina and breast first before you actually touch/lick erogenous zones (sensitive parts.)

6. Massaging: Order some grape seed oil from online, do not use baby oil, baby oil takes days to wash out the vagina, it could lead to yeast infection. Grape Seed oil is light enough wash out the vagina on first try.


Penis Health

1. Wash and clean properly every day.
2. Shave, yes! It reduces smelling.
3. Lasting Longer: practice Kagles daily.
What is Kagles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegel_exercise
4. Better ABS means better sex also work out your entire body!
5. Proper diet, no smoking means better penis health, no drugs.
6. Do not masturbate to porn, it’s not natural, it lowers your sex drive. And it fucks with your mentals.
7. If you must cum by yourself (masturbate), do it once or twice a month and not do it to porn! Practice the Joseph Stalin Methodology if you like to masturbate i.e. masturbate daily but do not cum.
8. If you take long to get back up, pulling out when you are cumming, this allows you to get back up faster.
9. Penis Enlargement: only natural method that seems plausible is "jelqing" -- invented by Arabs. I don't buy any of the enlargement methods; realize that size does not really matter. For pure intellectual purposes if you are interested…
Jelqing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_enlargement#Jelqing_and_clamping
Advance Techniques

1. Making her squirt: http://xhamster.com/movies/11837/how_to_make_her_squirt.html
2. Anal: If she is new or a first timer, make her hold and ease your penis inside her at her own pace. Don't ram it in!
a. Cleaning her anus, she can use a douche bag with water to do so.
b. She must be warmed up, when she is warmed up, her anus relaxes.
c. Use Water Based Lubricants
3. Deep Throat: Watch out for her gagging reflexes, simply practice will makes perfect, a little at a time. Her esophagus curves at the back of the mouth, tilting the head back creates a straight pathway.

 

[METHODIST]

your stuff sounds like complete bullsyhtt bruh.

Kewl

 

[NativeSon]

Check this show out while you're at it.

"Magic Negro"

http://tariq-nasheed.blogspot.com/2009/03/episode-182-magic-negroes.html

 

[METHODIST]

been reading and listening to this shit for a while now and also been up on tariq's mack lessons aa well as other mackish materials.

These two communities seduction and mack are generally the same. They need to stop hating on one another. Has nothing to do w/ being fake. There is a fuckin science to all this shit. Then again it really is simple. Grab your fuckin ballz talk to the chick in question, isolate, number, date.

Very true!

My bro loves tariq's stuff. Tariq and Asian playboy unlike the other schools of thought are the only ones who considers racial dynamics in their methodology.

I listened to Tariq Magic Negroes and I understand and agree with what he is saying. I also read his Art of macking and must say its a good ground work book. Though that is not a battle I wish to fight or concern myself with. One must know their battles to fight. I simply want to learn the methods and continue gain knowledge. I'd prefer for the gurus to battel that out for themselves.

 

[Shocker]

It's true because all the chicks I rejected after showing interest in them now wants to suck my dick. The reason why I reject them is because I realize that their personalities don't match their physical beauty.
It's like something click in their minds and they say WTF why this nigga don't want me anymore? They can read my body language before I even say a word.

Women are some strange creatures indeed.
The more I learn about women the more I realize that marriage is not for me.

 

[brickwall92]

 

[the Imm font]

That's exactly what I was about to post. Dating should not be a science where your moves are calculated to a T. Learn who you are first i.e. your likes/dislikes, ambitions/goals, what you want in a Woman, and then go out there and find her. There's nothing worse than having a Woman attracted to a false persona because then you can be yourself around her.

some people can go to the park and be their local jordan & some people need to go to a basketball camp to be the next Jordan.

game isnt a natural gift for all. Best thing to do is dont gas these chicks up and let them know if they dont act right. they can and will be replaced

 

[METHODIST]

It's true because all the chicks I rejected after showing interest in them now wants to suck my dick.:

I believe this 100%. And in pick up, you can even freeze out chicks with your body language and attitude to get them to do what you want.

True story: My boy and I were at club the other night we are dancing with these two hispanic women we met. A short one and tall one. I am dancing with the the tall once, spinning her, so is my boy, we switch partners and about 10 secs later the tall one stops dancing with and grabs her friend and start dancing with her. My boy and I continued doing our thing to show them that that does not bother us.

Ten minutes later the tall one comes back over to dance/dancing infornt of me and I turned my back for a moment. (freeze her out) Another 10 mins later she comes back even stronger and I said to her come "shake that thing for me real good." She grined on me like she was trying to sell me something.

You can even do little punishments with your eyes, and turn your backs to them briefly when they "act up."

 

[METHODIST]

some people can go to the park and be their local jordan & some people need to go to a basketball camp to be the next Jordan.

game isnt a natural gift for all. Best thing to do is dont gas these chicks up and let them know if they dont act right. they can and will be replaced

True. the difference between a natural and a non natural is that the natural learned the game early in his life. Naturals don't understand why someone has to go to basket ball camp. naturals may have learned game early in JHS or HS through their good looks, tallness, cool clothes, badboy personality etc. They started attract women for one of those qualities I mentioned and then they were able to transition early. The early success gave them the confidence to hone their skills. While the backetball campers never had that brilliance or luck.

Which brings me to a next point....

 

[METHODIST]

Oneists: There is a woman that most men have in our lives call a Oneitist. The one that got away, the girl next door we have been in love with since we were 12 years old but we are yet to make a move on her in our 20s. Or the one that it did not go right with on the date and we feel we have to get her. So we construct this faux-picture in our mind of how perfect she is, when she is actually not. There is only way to overcomming oneitist:

Various - Over Comming Oneitist
http://rapidshare.com/files/223651511/Overcome_Oneitis.rar

 

[Deuterion]

True. the difference between a natural and a non natural is that the natural learned the game early in his life. Naturals don't understand why someone has to go to basket ball camp. naturals may have learned game early in JHS or HS through their good looks, tallness, cool clothes, badboy personality etc. They started attract women for one of those qualities I mentioned and then they were able to transition early. The early success gave them the confidence to hone their skills. While the backetball campers never had that brilliance or luck.

Which brings me to a next point....

Makes sense!

 

[Barback]

a good one...

Cory Skyy (a Natural - not a pickup artist) - Badboy with a Heart (41 mins) -

http://www.zshare.net/download/58906785b77d8e56/

 

[dray]

Didn't know kats on BGOL where into the whole PUA thing. I don't knock it at all because there are a lot of guys who need it.

Personally, I like Tariq Nasheed and some of Alan Roger Currie's stuff (Mode One).

A few years ago I read some stuff from this white guy name David Wygant (the movie "Hitch" was based on him)...good info on being more social.

 

[Dirtylakerie]

thanks

 

[DESTROSIS]

 

[sj808]

1st things 1st... you never ask/get her number. you give our yours and tell her when to call you.


If she calls you.. you know she has 100% interest in you. If she doesn't, fuck it... keep it moving. It weeds out alot of women and doesn't waste your time. Time is valuable and choose wisely on how to use it.


You can get a girl's number and call her over and over and over.. and she can have zero interest in you. Most girl's just like the attention... look at myspace and how girl's soak up comments from guys.



Tariq touches on alot of this... but it should be common sense.

 

[METHODIST]

1st things 1st... you never ask/get her number. you give our yours and tell her when to call you.


If she calls you.. you know she has 100% interest in you. If she doesn't, fuck it... keep it moving. It weeds out alot of women and doesn't waste your time. Time is valuable and choose wisely on how to use it.


You can get a girl's number and call her over and over and over.. and she can have zero interest in you. Most girl's just like the attention... look at myspace and how girl's soak up comments from guys.



Tariq touches on alot of this... but it should be common sense.

This is Tariq's method and my boy and I debate on this all the time. I see the relivance of this and I don't fully disagree with it. Though, what if you did not have enough time to show enough value. But you got the number anyways? What if you met her at a club and she had drinks in her system and has not remember you totally? She may have given out her number more than once that night.

I say call or better text her, (tease, make her laugh, demonstrate value) hook, set up a meeting, something non pressure...ie coffee. if you get her voice mail and leave a text book message.

"Hey Nickname" I have met alot of people here in Atlanta but you seem to have a great spirit, outlook, and energy about you...I plan to get to know whats that is all about. Call me.

or

I was just out doing some really excting stuff, call me I have to tell you about it.

something of the sort.

 

[sj808]

This is Tariq's method and my boy and I debate on this all the time. I see the relivance of this and I don't fully disagree with it. Though, what if you did not have enough time to show enough value. But you got the number anyways? What if you met her at a club and she had drinks in her system and has not remember you totally? She may have given out her number more than once that night.

I say call or better text her, (tease, make her laugh, demonstrate value) hook, set up a meeting, something non pressure...ie coffee. if you get her voice mail and leave a text book message.

"Hey Nickname" I have met alot of people here in Atlanta but you seem to have a great spirit, outlook, and energy about you...I plan to get to know whats that is all about. Call me.

or

I was just out doing some really excting stuff, call me I have to tell you about it.

something of the sort.

dude... tariq didn't make up this method. I was using this before I even heard of Tariq. Some old heads told me about this back when I use to club promote. I thought it was full of shit before I actually started applying it. Alot of shit that Tariq teaches have been known for years. Alot of old school playas can vouch on that. Shit even Biggie was spitting mad game in his music... "Want to get with this nigga? its easy! Girlfriend, here's a pen... call me around ten".



the whole thing is based on the fact that "women know if they wanna fuck a man within the first 5 minutes of meeting him". We all delt with women that was into us.... when a girl is feeling a dude, she goes all out.

the problem nowadays is there's too much ass kissing and these desperate dudes doing anything to pull a chick. Sometimes, dude's egos be fucking with them and saying that they "that nigga". You not going to fuck every girl you meet or want.

For me, I honestly don't have time for all of that chasing, calling, etc etc etc. I give out tons of test to women and I'm super analytical on everything they do. Alot of people say I'm picky... I just fuck with the " best ones".


If yall wanna just knock some boots and get pussy, then do all these techniques in this thread. Fuck it, you'll catch some of these low-self esteem bitches and rack up the notches on your belt. I don't do that shit anymore.

 

[METHODIST]

If yall wanna just knock some boots and get pussy, then do all these techniques in this thread. Fuck it, you'll catch some of these low-self esteem bitches and rack up the notches on your belt. I don't do that shit anymore.

If one has solid game, they develop a mindset based on their skill set, which tells them that they can get any woman they want, thus leading them to having higher standards.

The next set of audio is from the Mystery Method Interview Series containing 35 different interviews. Here is interview number 10 - Phone Game

Sinn & Savoy - Phone Game

http://rapidshare.com/files/223958470/10_-_Phone_Game__Savoy___Sinn_.rar

 

[shywriter]

nice post

 

[woodchuck]

at this whole thread...



niggus just be yourself.

With all of the pimps and macks on BGOL, why is this thread here?

 

[Damian Stone]

While I respect the mechanics involved with the whole PUA thing I read the game and saw a few courses by Mystery and style online and I frankly do not bother with it.

4 points

1 - This was developed by and for people who usually would have no fucking chances to bag a female even if you paid them to do it.

2- It made me really disgusted with women who fall for those cheap parlor tricks.

3- Most of those PUA have no satisfying personal life, yes they can get the numbers by using preset techniques but after the fact they rarely get the pussy, therefore a big waste of time.

4- When I realized that Mystery's dream pick up were strippers I turned off that shit.

 

[METHODIST]

3- Most of those PUA have no satisfying personal life, yes they can get the numbers by using preset techniques but after the fact they rarely get the pussy, therefore a big waste of time.

How do you know this?

 

[Damian Stone]

How do you know this?

I went "sarging" with many PUA in Montreal and Toronto
I know quite a few, I never saw so much simping in my life.
A bunch of insecure people who can overcome their insecurity for a couple of hours in a club, but then the lights come on....

Why is the alpha male the PUA's biggest enemy....
Because the alpha male has self-confidence, no need for tricks.

I do listen to game from people who transcend the whole "pick up a random girl in a club" and bring some gems to everyday life, but from my experience the PUA followers I have hung out with were pathetic.

 

[Dan Freeman]

Thanks Pimpin

 

[jdc12]

subs for later

 

[O.Red]

Why is the alpha male the PUA's biggest enemy....
Because the alpha male has self-confidence, no need for tricks.

Oh shit.

Don't do them like that Stone

 

[Joe Swanson]

1 - This was developed by and for people who usually would have no fucking chances to bag a female even if you paid them to do it.

I dont give a fuck what you look like. If you got approach anxiety, you're still not gettin pussy. It aint like bitches just fall in your lap.

 

[sj808]

If one has solid game, they develop a mindset based on their skill set, which tells them that they can get any woman they want, thus leading them to having higher standards.

The next set of audio is from the Mystery Method Interview Series containing 35 different interviews. Here is interview number 10 - Phone Game

Sinn & Savoy - Phone Game

http://rapidshare.com/files/223958470/10_-_Phone_Game__Savoy___Sinn_.rar

now that i do agree

 

[dray]

I could never get into the whole PUA thing because its just too analytical for me...but I don't knock it either. Just not my cup of tea.

It may be a cliche but you gotta have confidence. Not only that but you have to holla at these females that you find attractive if you wanna get some honeys on your team.

 

[sj808]

I could never get into the whole PUA thing because its just too analytical for me...but I don't knock it either. Just not my cup of tea.

It may be a cliche but you gotta have confidence. Not only that but you have to holla at these females that you find attractive if you wanna get some honeys on your team.

thank you. that sums everything up.




I'm extreme with it and walk around like I'm the shit.... women catch it and dig it.

 

[METHODIST]

I went "sarging" with many PUA in Montreal and Toronto
I know quite a few, I never saw so much simping in my life.
A bunch of insecure people who can overcome their insecurity for a couple of hours in a club, but then the lights come on....

Why is the alpha male the PUA's biggest enemy....
Because the alpha male has self-confidence, no need for tricks.

I do listen to game from people who transcend the whole "pick up a random girl in a club" and bring some gems to everyday life, but from my experience the PUA followers I have hung out with were pathetic.

First off stone, I have to laugh at you cause you actually paid for a booth camp. LOL All this stuff is on the net at various pick up sites for free.

Seriously though, I don't know any PUAs so hence my question, my cell phone is my best wingman.

I can't really speak on students of PUA because I only know one and he was an Alpha since we were 12 years old. While I had one gf he had more than one. And over 10 years later he still on his grind.

Lets look at what you said analytically, I disagree that the Alpha male is the natural enemy of the PUA. The PUA asserts himself as alpha, faking it untill he becomes an Alpha in mind. The PUA is the natural enemy of himself because he consumes his life picking up. Picking up does not become a part of his skill set, in addition to his other skills, it consumes him and becomes his entire life.

 

[Damian Stone]

First off stone, I have to laugh at you cause you actually paid for a booth camp. LOL All this stuff is on the net at various pick up sites for free.

Seriously though, I don't know any PUAs so hence my question, my cell phone is my best wingman.

I can't really speak on students of PUA because I only know one and he was an Alpha since we were 12 years old. While I had one gf he had more than one. And over 10 years later he still on his grind.

Lets look at what you said analytically, I disagree that the Alpha male is the natural enemy of the PUA. The PUA asserts himself as alpha, faking it untill he becomes an Alpha in mind. The PUA is the natural enemy of himself because he consumes his life picking up. Picking up does not become a part of his skill set, in addition to his other skills, it consumes him and becomes his entire life.

You must be out of your damn mind
I would never pay for a fucking booth camp, is you crazy?
A lot of people I do business with are PUA students and went to booth camps, we hang out often and since they know I know about those stuff they always invite me to their expeditions and me being curious I go along.

Please I downloaded 3 gigs of style and Mystery courses 2 years ago, the only thing I paid for was the book :The Game.

Paid for....Man
I am a proud BGOL vet since 1997, never insult me like this.

 

[bigreg2007]

You must be out of your damn mind
I would never pay for a fucking booth camp, is you crazy?
A lot of people I do business with are PUA students and went to booth camps, we hang out often and since they know I know about those stuff they always invite me to their expeditions and me being curious I go along.

Please I downloaded 3 gigs of style and Mystery courses 2 years ago, the only thing I paid for was the book :The Game.

Paid for....Man
I am a proud BGOL vet since 1997, never insult me like this.

Get'em Dame.

But for real though these [game strategies] are interesting topics. These strategies do work if you apply them but they are not for everyone.

The biggest problem or issue for those who feel they dont have game is "approach anxiety". This anxiety is very real for some [I use to suffer from it years ago] and has the potential to keep you from a lot opportunities and I dont mean just mean with the ladies...

What I did to conquer my anxiety was improve the things I had issue with...

If your FAT...work out and get in shape.

If you feel like you dont have anything WORTH saying...READ READ READ constantly...books, magazines, blogs anything you might be able to use as a convo piece.

If you're uncomfortable around females...make female friends at work, school, church, wherever...its best that these females are ugly or not your type or not too attractive at first as it makes it easier to see them as just homegirls and not women you're trying to bed[/d]. Its just easier to talk to a female who you are not trying to fuck.

Making these types of friends will teach you alot about the female character, their likes and dislikes, nuances, etc.

If you are broke or underemployed...get a job or a hustle.


I could go on and on but you get it. Improving yourself makes you confident sometimes without [you] even noticing at first and CONFIDENCE is natural attractive to either sexes.