Who runs America? The Federal Reserve

What is America? The people that are in charge in what you call America are people who classify themsleves as white. They are the ones that even give value to all the money in the world. It is simple just to say that white people are in charge in the universe. Not just in what you would call "America" but on the universe. And according to the eveidence, those white people that are in charge are also racists/white supremacists. Peace!!!
 
Obama will fix it. Just watch. :rolleyes:

How's he gonna fix it when he won't even question it? My issues are not with Mr. Obama, it is the Federal Reserve who issues the liquidity that dictate the policies of your politicians, I know it's a radical thought but politicians are bought and paid for!

 
I'll post this article written in 1996 from the Final Call. The reason I am against the Federal Reserve is because they create money 'out of thin air' and when they do that, it devalues the money already in circulation. Not only that, these International Banksters charge us interest for the privelage. Now, Congress could abolish the Federal Reserve and all debt would be interest-free! It has been said that the easiest way to enslave a people is to get them into debt. Check out JFK!

President Kennedy, the Federal Reserve and Executive Order 11110

by Cedric X


From The Final Call, Vol15, No.6, on January 17, 1996 (USA)

On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.

With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificates were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 11110 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the government the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver.

After Mr. Kennedy was assassinated just five months later, no more silver certificates were issued. The Final Call has learned that the Executive Order was never repealed by any U.S. President through an Executive Order and is still valid. Why then has no president utilized it? Virtually all of the nearly $6 trillion in debt has been created since 1963, and if a U.S. president had utilized Executive Order 11110 the debt would be nowhere near the current level. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to future presidents who would think to eliminate the U.S. debt by eliminating the Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money. Mr. Kennedy challenged the government of money by challenging the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt - war and the creation of money by a privately-owned central bank. His efforts to have all troops out of Vietnam by 1965 and Executive Order 11110 would have severely cut into the profits and control of the New York banking establishment. As America's debt reaches unbearable levels and a conflict emerges in Bosnia that will further increase America's debt, one is force to ask, will President Clinton have the courage to consider utilizing Executive Order 11110 and, if so, is he willing to pay the ultimate price for doing so?
 
Did you notice which banks were apart of the bailout...Your trail of Jews gets longer and longer.....Then find out who owns the banks involved in the bailout and who owns the Federal Reserve if you see similarities its because its true lmao
 
Ive been saying it for years: fuck trying to be president, can a Black man be the Fed? If you know anything, you know the Fed is more powerful than the president.

"Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws..." Mayer Rothschild


"He who controls the gold makes the rules." Dont ever forget it
 
Who Really Owns America?

This is detailed information about system that is enslaving us and the rest of the world. The time for ignorance is through. It's all about empowering ourselves and our communities through knowledge and perserverence.

So who really owns the world?


CLICK THIS LINK!!!!

http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html


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GRAND ILLUSION - THE FEDERAL RESERVE

So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because your neighbors got it made
Just remember that it's a Grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same.
We're all the same...

America spells competition, join us in our blind ambition
Get yourself a brand new motor car
Someday soon we'll stop to ponder what on Earth's this spell we're under
We made the grade and still we wonder who the hell we are



Styx – Grand Illusion

The whole world is in a state of complete confusion. Americans are coming to the realization that their lives have been a grand illusion. You thought your neighbor had it made. They were driving a Mercedes, spent $40,000 on a new kitchen with granite countertops and stainless steel appliances, sent their kids to private school, had a second home at the shore, and took exotic vacations all over the world. Now their house is in foreclosure and you are paying to bail them out. The anger and outrage in the country is at the highest level since the Vietnam War. The American public is being misled by government officials, politicians, and the Federal Reserve regarding the causes of this crisis and the solutions needed to solve our economic tribulations.

The average American does not know much about the Federal Reserve. The government and the Federal Reserve prefer to operate in the shadows. If the American public understood what their policies have done to their lives, they would be rioting in the streets. Henry Ford had a similar opinion:

"It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

Most Americans believe that the Federal Reserve is part of the government. They are wrong. It is a privately held corporation owned by stockholders. The Federal Reserve System is owned by the largest banks in the United States. There are Class A, B, and C shareholders. The owner banks and their shares in the Federal Reserve are a secret. Why is this a secret? It is likely that the biggest banks in the country are the major shareholders. Does this explain why Citicorp, Bank of America and JP Morgan, despite being insolvent, are being propped up by Ben Bernanke and Timothy Geithner?

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The history of National Banks in the United States has been controversial since the Founding Fathers signed the Declaration of Independence. The Constitution of the United States unequivocally states that only Congress has the authority to coin money, not an independent bank owned by unknown bankers.

The Congress shall have Power to coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures

Article 1, Section 8 – US Constitution

Our most recent horrifying experience with an all powerful central bank has led to the current worldwide financial crisis. In less than one century the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States has destroyed our currency and has allowed bankers to gain unwarranted power over the country. They had the ability and opportunity to bring down the worldwide financial system.

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When the average American is told that the dollar has lost 95% of its purchasing power since the inception of the Federal Reserve in 1913, they look at you with a blank stare and start wondering whether American Idol is on TV tonight. The systematic inflation purposely created by the Federal Reserve silently robs the average American of their standard of living. The CPI figures published by the US government tell the story.


The government began keeping official track of inflation in 1913, the year the Federal Reserve was created. The CPI on January 1, 1914 was 10.0. The CPI on January 1, 2009 was 211.1. This means that a man’s suit that cost $10 in 1913 would cost $211 today, a 2,111% increase in 96 years. This is a 95% loss in purchasing power of the dollar. For some further perspective here are the prices of some other common items in 1913 per the Morristown Daily Record:

Boy's shoes for school, .98/pair Women's shoes, 2.00-8.00/pair

Bread, .10/3 loaves Butter, fancy, .30/lb

Cereal, Kellogg's Corn Flakes, .09/box Eggs, Fresh Western, .27/dozen

Peanut butter, .09/jar Toilet paper, .26/6 rolls

Daily Record [Morristown NJ], .01/daily paper

Notable on the CPI chart is that in the years following the creation of the Federal Reserve, inflation ran at double digit rates to finance Woodrow Wilson’s foreign intervention into World War I. The other notable period was in the years following President Nixon’s closing of the gold window in 1971. This led to rampant inflation that wasn’t tamed until the early 1980’s by Paul Volcker, the only independent courageous Federal Reserve Chairman in its history. The figures so far in the 21st Century seem modest. This is due partly to the methodical downward manipulation of the calculation by government bureaucrats. The period from 2010 to 2020 will show a dramatic jump caused by all of the money printing and reckless spending that is occurring today. Book it Dano.

The average American might just conclude that prices always go up, so what’s the big deal about inflation. This is where the Federal Reserve and politicians have pulled the wool over your eyes. The CPI was 30.9 in 1964. Today, it is 211.1. This means that prices have risen 683% since 1964. The only problem is that your wages have not risen at the same rate, even using the government manipulated CPI. Using a true CPI figure, average weekly earnings are 64% below what they were in 1964. This explains why a family of five could live well with one parent working in 1964, but even with both parents working and using debt in prodigious amounts, the average family does not live as well today.

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Don’t Know Much About History

The First Bank of the United States was created in 1791. Alexander Hamilton, the 1st Secretary of the Treasury, proposed this bank and convinced a hesitant President Washington to agree. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were against the concept. It favored the moneyed classes of the North versus the agrarian South. The bank was given a 20 year charter and President James Madison let it expire in 1811. He then renewed the charter in 1816. The wise men who took unprecedented risks in declaring independence from England’s tyranny, feared the tyranny of bankers equally:

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America rise, not from defects in the Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation."

John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 1787

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."

Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President -1802



[The] Bank of the United States... is one of the most deadly hostility existing, against the principles and form of our Constitution... An institution like this, penetrating by its branches every part of the Union, acting by command and in phalanx, may, in a critical moment, upset the government. I deem no government safe which is under the vassalage of any self-constituted authorities, or any other authority than that of the nation, or its regular functionaries. What an obstruction could not this bank of the United States, with all its branch banks, be in time of war! It might dictate to us the peace we should accept, or withdraw its aids. Ought we then to give further growth to an institution so powerful, so hostile?

Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President -1803

"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance".

James Madison, U.S. President

President Andrew Jackson was the first and only President in the history to pay off the National Debt. He worked tirelessly to rescind the charter of the Second Bank of the United States. His reasons for abolishing the bank were:

· It concentrated the nation's financial strength in a single institution.

· It exposed the government to control by foreign interests.

· It served mainly to make the rich richer.

· It exercised too much control over members of Congress.

· It favored northeastern states over southern and western states.

President Jackson believed that only Congress should be responsible for the issuance and control of the currency. Delegating that duty to powerful New York bankers was distasteful to him.

"If Congress has the right to issue paper money, it was given to them to be used ... and not to be delegated to individuals or corporations"

President Andrew Jackson, Vetoed Bank Bill of 1836

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President Jackson, shown here "driving out the devils and money changers"with his order to withdraw public money from the central bank
-Edward Clay lithograph, published 1833




President Jackson’s honesty and anger at the bankers should resonate today, as bankers have again brought our country to its knees.

“Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the grace of the Eternal God, will rout you out.”

A President with Jackson’s strength of character would put the blame where it belongs today. He would rout out these criminal bankers, rather than give them more taxpayer money to squander. A President with a moral backbone would put an end to the disastrous 96 year experiment of the Federal Reserve. Instead our last two spineless Presidents have put Goldman Sachs bankers in charge of our national Treasury. An examination of inflation throughout the history of the United States proves that from the beginning of our nation through wars and the Industrial Revolution, the country experienced virtually no inflation as our currency was backed by gold. The creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 and the closing of the gold window in 1971 unleashed a tsunami of inflation that continues today.

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Source: Chartingstocks.net



1913 – A Bad Year for America

Karl Marx published his Communist Manifesto in 1848. It included 10 planks. Two of the ten planks were as follows:

* A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
* Centralization of credit in the hands of the State by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

The dates February 3, 1913 and December 24, 1913 framed a year which placed our country on a downward fiscal spiral. The United States had tinkered with an income tax during the Civil War and the 1890’s, but the Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional. Until 1913, the U.S. government was restrained from overspending because it was completely reliant on tariffs and duties to generate revenue. The Sixteenth Amendment changed the game forever.

“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.”

When you give a Congressman a dollar, he’ll take a hundred billion. The initial tax rates of 1% to 7% were rather modest. That did not last long. The top tax rate reached 92% during the 1950s and today rates are still 500% to 1,000% higher than they were in 1913. The government is addicted to tax revenue. In 2007, they absconded $1.2 trillion in taxes from American individuals. Does anyone think that the bloated government bureaucracy spent these funds more efficiently or for a more beneficial purpose than its citizens could have?

Without $1.2 trillion in individual tax revenue, Congressmen would not be able to add 9,200 earmarks to the current $400 billion Federal spending bill every year. This is how they waste your money:



· $1.8 million to research “swine odor and manure management” in Ames, Iowa.

· $41.5 million to upgrade presidential libraries of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon B. Johnson, and John F. Kennedy, according to the Heritage Foundation.

· $2.9 million to study how to breed and raise shrimp on “shrimp farms.” Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW) reports that since 1985 the federal government has allocated $71 million to the study of shrimp science.

· $209,000 to improve blueberry production in Georgia, according to CAGW.

· $200,000 for a tattoo removal program in Mission Hills, Calif.

· $5.8 million for the Edward M. Kennedy Institute for the Senate in Boston, according to the Heritage Foundation.

· $6.6 million for Formosan subterranean termites, also according to Heritage.





Rothschild, J.P. Morgan & the Federal Reserve

"Those few who can understand the system (check book money and credit) will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on it favors, that there will be little opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear it burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

Rothschild’s Bros. of London

The House of Rothschild had been the dominant banking family in Europe for two centuries. They were known for making fortunes during Panics and War. Some claimed that they would cause Panics in order to take advantage of those who panicked. The Panic of 1907 was the used as the reason for creating the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis attributed the causes of the Panic of 1907 to financial manipulation from the existing banking establishment.

"If Knickerbocker Trust would falter, then Congress and the public would lose faith in all trust companies and banks would stand to gain, the bankers reasoned."




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J.P. Morgan (1837-1913)



In 1906, Frank Vanderlip Vice President of the Rockefeller owned National City Bank convinced many of New York's banking establishment that they needed a banker-controlled central bank that could serve the nation's financial system. Up to that time, the House of Morgan had filled that role. JP Morgan had initiated previous panics in order to initiate stronger control over the banking system. (Picture slimy Mr. Potter offering the members of the Bailey Building & Loan, 50 cents on the dollar for their shares during a bank panic in the classic movie Its A Wonderful Life). Morgan initiated the Panic of 1907 by circulating rumors that the Knickerbocker Bank and Trust Co. of America was going broke, there was a run on the banks creating a financial crisis which began to solidify support for a central banking system. During this panic Paul Warburg, a Rothschild associate, wrote an essay called "A Plan for a Modified Central Bank" which called for a Central Bank in which 50% would be owned by the government and 50% by the nation's banks.

In November 1910 a secret conference took place on Jekyll Island off the coast of Georgia. Those in attendance were: JP Morgan, Paul Warburg, John D. Rockefeller, Bernard Baruch, Senator Nelson Aldrich, Colonel House, Frank Vanderlip, Benjamin Strong, Charles Norton, Jacob Schiff, and Henry Davison. Out of this meeting of the most powerful bankers and politicians in the country came the plan for a Central Bank. This conference was unknown until 1933. In 1935, Frank Vanderlip wrote in the Saturday Evening Post: "I do not feel it is any exaggeration to speak of our secret expedition to Jekyll Island as the occasion of the actual conception of what eventually became the Federal Reserve System."

Behind the scenes these powerful men were formulating the plan for a Federal Reserve System. There was no outcry from the public to implement this plan. The public knew nothing of this. The Aldrich Plan was renamed the Federal Reserve Act and pushed forward by Paul Warburg and Colonel House. Warburg essentially wrote the Act and pressured Congressmen to see his way or lose the next election. Colonel House, who had socialist leanings, was the top advisor to President Wilson.

The Glass Bill (the House version of the final Federal Reserve Act) had passed the House on September 18, 1913 by 287 to 85. On December 19, 1913, the Senate passed their version by a vote of 54-34. More than forty important differences in the House and Senate versions remained to be settled, and the opponents of the bill in both houses of Congress were led to believe that many weeks would elapse before the Conference bill would be taken up. The Congressmen prepared to leave Washington for the annual Christmas recess, assured that the Conference bill would not be brought up until the following year. The creators of the bill then pulled the ultimate scam on the American public. In a single day, they ironed out all forty of the disputed passages in the bill and quickly brought it to a vote. On Monday, December 22, 1913, the bill was passed by the House 282-60 and the Senate 43-23. This meant that the single most important piece of legislation ever passed by the Senate was missing the votes of 26 Senators because it was passed during the Christmas recess. President Wilson, at the urging of Bernard Baruch, signed the bill on December 23, 1913. A few years later, President Wilson had second thoughts:

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world--no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men."

There were some brave Americans who did oppose this legislation and foresaw the devastation that it would lead to.

“Throughout my public life I have supported all measures designed to take the Government out of the banking business. This bill puts the Government into the banking business as never before in our history. The powers vested in the Federal Reserve Board seen to me highly dangerous especially where there is political control of the Board. I should be sorry to hold stock in a bank subject to such dominations. The bill as it stands seems to me to open the way to a vast inflation of the currency. I had hoped to support this bill, but I cannot vote for it cause it seems to me to contain features and to rest upon principles in the highest degree menacing to our prosperity, to stability in business, and to the general welfare of the people of the United States.”

Senator Henry Cabot Lodge – Dec 17, 1913

“From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.”



Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh Sr. - 1913

John Maynard Keynes, the current hero of the Obama administration and Paul Krugman, had this to say about the Federal Reserve in 1920.

“Should government refrain from regulation (taxation), the worthlessness of the money become apparent and the fraud can no longer be concealed. By this means government may secretly and unobserved, confiscate the wealth of the people and not one man in a million will detect the theft."

Mandate from Hell

According to the Federal Reserve’s own website, their duties fall into four general areas:

1. Conducting the nation's monetary policy by influencing the monetary and credit conditions in the economy in pursuit of maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates.
2. Supervising and regulating banking institutions to ensure the safety and soundness of the nation's banking and financial system and to protect the credit rights of consumers
3. Maintaining the stability of the financial system and containing systemic risk that may arise in financial markets
4. Providing financial services to depository institutions, the U.S. government, and foreign official institutions, including playing a major role in operating the nation's payments system

The American public was told that the Federal Reserve would eliminate any future bank panics. From 1913 through 1920, inflation increased at more than 10% per year as Wilson spent vast sums during World War I and its aftermath. From the early 1920s to 1929, the monetary supply expanded at a rapid pace and the nation experienced tremendous economic growth. Benjamin Strong, one of the participants at the secret conference on Jekyll Island, was the Federal Reserve head. By the end of the 1920s, speculation and loose money had propelled asset and equity prices to unsustainable levels. The stock market crashed in 1929, and as the banks struggled with liquidity problems, the Federal Reserve cut the money supply. This was the greatest financial panic and economic collapse in American history so far - and it never could have happened without the Fed's intervention. The Fed caused the bubble with loose monetary policy. The Depression did not become Great until the Smoot Hawley Act in 1930 destroyed world trade and the raising of the top income tax rates from 25% to 63% in 1932 destroyed the incentive to earn money. Over 9,000 banks failed and a few of the old robber barons' banks managed to swoop in and grab up thousands of competitors for pennies on the dollar.


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The Federal Reserve’s primary mandates were maximum employment, stable prices and moderate long-term interest rates. Their other chief function was to supervise and regulate banks to ensure the banking system is safe. Lets assess their success regarding their mandates:



* Unemployment reached 25% during the Great Depression; attained levels above 10% in 1982; and will breach 10% in the next year. Grade: Failure



* Based on the chart above and the CPI data since the Federal Reserve’s inception, the dollar has lost 95% of its purchasing power. Grade: Failure



* Based on the chart below interest rates have been anything but moderate since the inception of the Federal Reserve. They have consistently caused booms and busts by setting rates too low or too high. Grade: Failure



* The Federal Reserve was supposed to supervise the activities of banks. Instead, under Alan Greenspan, they stepped aside and let banks take preposterous risks while giving an unspoken assurance that the Fed would clean up any messes that they caused. This total dereliction of duty gross negligence has led the greatest financial collapse in history. Grade: Failure

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Voices of Reason

The Chairman of the House banking & Currency Committee Louis T. McFadden fought a lonely battle against the Federal Reserve in the early 1930s. He was swept out of office when his opponent in the next election received thousands of dollars in campaign contributions.

"Mr. Chairman, we have in this Country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, hereinafter called the Fed. The Fed has cheated the Government of these United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the Nation's debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Fed have cost enough money to pay the National debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of these United States, has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Fed and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.”

Louis T. McFadden – Representative from PA 1934

Mr. McFadden has a soul mate in Representative Ron Paul from Texas. Mr. Paul has been on a one man mission to abolish the Federal Reserve for over a decade. He seems to be the only person in Congress with the courage, fortitude and intellect to understand the damage that has been caused by the Federal Reserve and call for its abolition. The entrenched political class, despise Mr. Paul because his call to abolish the Federal Reserve would destroy their ill begotten wealth and power.

Since the creation of the Federal Reserve, middle and working-class Americans have been victimized by a boom-and-bust monetary policy. In addition, most Americans have suffered a steadily eroding purchasing power because of the Federal Reserve's inflationary policies. This represents a real, if hidden, tax imposed on the American people.

From the Great Depression, to the stagflation of the seventies, to the burst of the dotcom bubble last year, every economic downturn suffered by the country over the last 80 years can be traced to Federal Reserve policy. The Fed has followed a consistent policy of flooding the economy with easy money, leading to a misallocation of resources and an artificial "boom" followed by a recession or depression when the Fed-created bubble bursts. In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to stand up for working Americans by putting an end to the manipulation of the money supply which erodes Americans' standard of living, enlarges big government, and enriches well-connected elites, by cosponsoring my legislation to abolish the Federal Reserve.

Ron Paul – Sept 10, 2002

Representative Paul sized up his colleagues in Congress and the Federal Reserve perfectly in 2006 when they were oblivious to the impending disaster that was about to befall the nation. He was belittled by the mainstream press and fellow Congressmen.

The coming dollar crisis is not likely to be “fixed” by politicians who are unwilling to make hard choices, admit mistakes, and spend less money. Demographic trends will place even greater demands on Congress to maintain benefits for millions of older Americans who are dependent on the federal government.

Faced with uncomfortable financial realities, Congress will seek to avoid the day of reckoning by the most expedient means available – and the Federal Reserve undoubtedly will accommodate Washington by printing more dollars to pay the bills. The Fed is the enabler for the spending addicts in Congress, who would rather spend new fiat money than face the political consequences of raising taxes or borrowing more abroad.

The irony is that many of the Fed’s biggest cheerleaders are the same supposed capitalists who denounced centralized economic planning when practiced by the former Soviet Union. Large banks and Wall Street firms love the Fed’s easy money policy, because they profit at the front end from the resulting loan boom and artificially high equity prices. It’s the little guy who loses when the inflated dollars finally trickle down to him and erode his buying power. Someday Americans will understand that Federal Reserve bankers have no magic ability – and certainly no legal or moral right – to decide how much money should exist and what the cost of borrowing money should be.

Ron Paul – July 11, 2006

Before he became a tool of the political ruling elite and the bankers who truly control the country, Alan Greenspan actually understood and supported a currency backed by gold which couldn’t be manipulated by corrupt politicians. The confiscation of middle class wealth through the insidious use of inflation has proceeded unchecked for 96 years.

In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold. If everyone decided, for example, to convert all his bank deposits to silver or copper or any other good, and thereafter declined to accept checks as payment for goods, bank deposits would lose their purchasing power and government-created bank credit would be worthless as a claim on goods. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard.

Alan Greenspan – 1966

I’m Mad as Hell & I’m Not Going to Take it Anymore

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Howard Beale, the news anchor in the movie Network, could have spoken the same lines today that he was speaking in 1976. He describes our current financial crisis to a tee.

I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth; banks are going bust; shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter; punks are running wild in the street, and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and there's no end to it.

I want you to get mad!

I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to riot. I don't want you to write to your Congressman, because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the street.

All I know is that first, you've got to get mad.

You've gotta say, "I'm a human being, goddammit! My life has value!"

So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window, open it, and stick your head out and yell,

"I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!!"


Anyone who is not mad as hell at this point is not paying attention. Your tax and spend corrupted politician leaders and your banker controlled Federal Reserve have borrowed and spent your tax dollars, your children’s tax dollars, and their children’s tax dollars desperately attempting to prop up this bankrupt system. The unleashing of a never ending tsunami of printed dollars by the Federal Reserve makes every dollar worth less. They have systematically created inflation that has slowly but surely reduced your standard of living. Politicians in the pocket of lobbyists, corporate interests, and bankers have used their power to tax in order to spend trillions on worthless projects in their districts to insure re-election. The combination of taxing and printing has led to a National Debt of $11 trillion.

See chart, United States National Debt; and the Presidents Responsible for it.


Bankers love debt. The more debt, the more interest they collect. Issuing credit cards and collecting 21% interest and billions in late fees seemed like a can’t miss proposition. It was until people couldn’t pay the debt back. Now the unwinding of the greatest debt bubble in history has created a 2nd Great Depression. Instead of learning from the past, the Federal Reserve has chosen to do exactly what led to the crisis. They have lowered rates to 0% and have printed money at prodigious rates. The Fed has doubled their balance sheet in the last 12 months.

They have loaned billions to the bankrupt banks that inhabit our financial system while accepting worthless pieces of paper as collateral. They have hailed back to Jekyll Island and the cloak of secrecy. They will not reveal to the public the banks they have loaned money to or the collateral that backs up those loans. The arrogance of Ben Bernanke proves that the Federal Reserve answers to bankers, and not to the American public. The books and records of the Federal Reserve are not open to scrutiny by the General Accounting Office. Ron Paul has introduced the Federal Reserve Transparency Act which would open their books to the public. No organization with as much power as the Federal Reserve should be permitted to operate in the shadows.


See chart, Federal Reserve Bank Liabilities, in Millions.


A recent article by David Galland from Casey Research pointed out the insidious methods by which the government extracts our money for their self serving schemes:



Accounts Receivable Tax Building Permit Tax

CDL License Tax Cigarette Tax

Corporate Income Tax Dog License Tax

Excise Tax Federal Income Tax

Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax

Food License
Tax
Fuel Permit Tax

Gasoline Tax Gross Receipts Tax

Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax

Inventory Tax IRS Interest /IRS Penalties

Liquor Tax Luxury Taxes

Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax

Personal Property Tax
Property Tax

Real Estate Tax Service Charge Tax

Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax

Sales Tax Recreational Vehicle Tax

School Tax State Income Tax

State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone Federal Excise Tax

Utility Taxes Vehicle Sales Tax

Watercraft Registration Tax Well Permit Tax

Telephone State and Local Tax Telephone Usage Charge Tax

Vehicle License Registration Tax Workers Compensation Tax.
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax

Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes

Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax

Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax



After digesting this disgusting list, do you feel under taxed?



Depression, Collapse & Revival

The future is cloudy but the direction is clear. Government will spend trillions of dollars. Congress will increase taxes on the rich and secretly raise taxes on the masses by calling them cap and trade fees. The Federal Reserve will pull out all stops to create inflation. When you owe the rest of the world $11 trillion, inflation makes the debt less burdensome. The dollar will decline versus gold. With the enormous amount of currency creation and spending by the government, the economy will eventually pull out of this depression. The acceleration will take the Federal Reserve by surprise. They will be hesitant to raise interest rates. The inflation genie will get out of the bottle and will not go back. The hyperinflation that takes hold will lead to social unrest, rioting, and a drastic reduction in the American standard of living.

There is no solution that will not be painful to everyone in the United States. The only solution that would put America back on a path of sustainable prosperity would be a gold/precious metals backed currency that would force government and its citizens to live within its means. Congress would need to vote for something that would take away its power. With our current political system, this is impossible. Money is power. This leads to only one conclusion. The existing Ponzi scheme will have to collapse before we can adopt a rational financial system for America. It may take decades, or it may happen in 2010. No one knows. If the country can be convinced to follow the wisdom of Ron Paul, we still have a chance to avoid this fate.

When the Federal government spends more each year than it collects in tax revenues, it has three choices: It can raise taxes, print money, or borrow money. While these actions may benefit politicians, all three options are bad for average Americans.

To discuss ways to take back our country from corrupt politicians and criminal bankers join me at

TheBurningPlatform.com.

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Good stuff Idol, spread the word!!!!

President John F.Kennedy, The Federal Reserve And Executive Order 11110

by Cedric X

From The Final Call, Vol. 15, No.6, On January 17, 1996

On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.

With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificats were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 11110 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the gevernment the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver.

Link to the rest of the Article Right Here
 
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Good post. I'll take some time to examine this thoroughly. :D

Good stuff Idol, spread the word!!!!

President John F.Kennedy, The Federal Reserve And Executive Order 11110

by Cedric X

From The Final Call, Vol. 15, No.6, On January 17, 1996

On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.

With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificats were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 11110 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the gevernment the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver.

Link to the rest of the Article Right Here

This is a misrepresentation of the facts.

So, now I see how this myth is perpetuating.

The facts are correct (e.g. there was an Executive Order 11110 and it did relate to issuing currency backed by silver)...

however everything else is all wrong!
 
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Good post. I'll take some time to examine this thoroughly. :D



This is a misrepresentation of the facts.

So, now I see how this myth is perpetuating.

The facts are correct (e.g. there was an Executive Order 11110 and it did relate to issuing currency backed by silver)...

however everything else is all wrong!

All I can do is assure you that it is not wrong. Kennedy stood with the 'people'. He was trying to bypass the Federal Reserve altogether by creating Silver Certificates (interest-free US Notes). The Federal Reserve charges the people interest on the debt the US accrues, Once again, Kennedy was introducing a competing currency which ultimately, would've eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve Notes. Trust Me. Follow this clip: especially at 4:30

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All I can do is assure you that it is not wrong. Kennedy stood with the 'people'. He was trying to bypass the Federal Reserve altogether by creating Silver Certificates (interest-free US Notes). The Federal Reserve charges the people interest on the debt the US accrues, Once again, Kennedy was introducing a competing currency which ultimately, would've eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve Notes. Trust Me. Follow this clip: especially at 4:30

I watched the video. Now, take a look at this...

Kennedy Money: Debt Free or silver give-a-away?
 
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OK, I think I understand your argument. I have one question for further clarification: Does it really matter whether or not a President issues interest-free US Notes or Silver Certificates, when the end result will be the eventual elimination of the Federal Reserve Note under either method?

Yes!

US Notes are bad. Silver certificates (backed by law and redeemable) are GOOD!

For my interests, the government and private banks should not be issuing fiat currency. It doesn't matter if they are US Notes (greenbacks) or Federal Reserve Notes. They are both theft and a crime against the people.

It doesn't matter if the Federal Reserve exists or not if the government then decides to issue US Notes (e.g. greenbacks).

Why?

Because the medium of exchange (paper, cloth, gold, silver, copper, nickel, zinc, etc.) moves toward its natural (intrinsic) value over time.

If you use paper/cloth (US Notes, Federal Reserve Notes), it (over time) moves toward 0.

If you use gold, silver, or a commodity, it is ALWAYS above 0 and generally above face value after fiat currencies enter the marketplace.

So, when the government uses a fiat currency (paper/cloth), whether its debt-free or financed, they are essentially stealing from the people by creating worthless "money" to purchase/obtain real goods and services from the people.

John F. Kennedy did the right thing, with the silver certificate, for the wrong reason. He simply wanted to increase government spending (and the federal bureaucracy) without going to the Federal Reserve, via Congress.

JFK's selfish act, by pure accident, helped the people. JFK probably didn't realize he was weakening the Federal government by issuing silver certificates. It was essentially a great wealth transfer from Washington, DC/Wall Street to the people of the United States of America.

Of course, after his death, LBJ, the Congress, and the Federal Reserve promptly killed the silver certificate and the silver standard. :angry:
 
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Yes!

For my interests, the government and private banks should not be issuing fiat currency. It doesn't matter if they are US Notes (greenbacks) or Federal Reserve Notes. They are both theft and a crime against the people.

Here is where I slightly disagree, here is my reason: If US Notes were issued, at least, Congress would be accountable. Under the current Federal Reserve System, They raise and lower interest rates, print money, set-up Term Auction Facilities etc. AND are accountable to no one. What we should demand is that Congress reassert it's constitutional authority to coin money and regulate the value thereof

John F. Kennedy did the right thing, with the silver certificate, for the wrong reason. He simply wanted to increase government spending (and the federal bureaucracy) without going to the Federal Reserve, via Congress.

JFK's selfish act, by pure accident, helped the people. JFK probably didn't realize he was weakening the Federal government by issuing silver certificates. It was essentially a great wealth transfer from Washington, DC/Wall Street to the people of the United States of America.

I can't say his act was selfish, IMO, that is the 'change' that people want to see. Anyone, Tell me if the following statement is not true?

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. - Thomas Jefferson,
 
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Here is where I slightly disagree, here is my reason: If US Notes were issued, at least, Congress would be accountable. Under the current Federal Reserve System, They raise and lower interest rates, print money, set-up Term Auction Facilities etc. AND are accountable to no one. What we should demand is that Congress reassert it's constitutional authority to coin money and regulate the value thereof

Believe it or not, this is basically how it works today.

The Congress can issue all the money it wants. In theory, the Federal Reserve can only go to the US Bureau of Printing and Engraving by Act of Congress via the issuance of Treasury debt (notes/bills/bonds).

So, the Federal Reserve is accountable to Congress today.

Actually, in this capacity, the Federal Reserve could have been a check on the Congress. It could make the Congress pay market rates for its debt rather than arbitrarily setting rates and undercutting all other debt (corporate, personal, foreign government, etc.) by forcing it to explicitly collateralize each issue of a Treasury loan.

Unfortunately, the way it works now, Congress gets unlimited loans from the Federal Reserve.

So, Congress has the power now and they are abusing the HELL out of it!

I can't say his act was selfish, IMO, that is the 'change' that people want to see. Anyone, Tell me if the following statement is not true?

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. - Thomas Jefferson,

If the people means the private marketplace, I agree with this statement.

If the people means the government, then you are asking for a tyrannical government (which is what exists today).
 
Re: Who Really Owns America?

America is being held hostage by a insurance company, and if that isn't bad enuff, shares of that insurance company were selling for 83 cents yesterday.

No, America is being held by politicians whose incompetence allowed the bailout of an insurance company worth 83 cents. Once the politicians get out of the way, America can get back to work but as long as they keep interfering in the market, they will only complicate matters, AND TO TOP IT OFF, THEY WILL BLAME IT ON CAPITALISM, ya'll kill me
 
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In a nutshell, China is no longer financing our debt and the only recourse is the Fed printing money to finance our debt. Printing money devalues the money already in circulation and eventually creates inflation. The more spending done by the govt, the more inflation.

Federal Reserve to purchase $300 billion of Treasury securities


The Federal Reserve’s policy committee on Wednesday said that the Fed would buy more than $1 trillion in assets to revive credit markets, also leaving its target interest-rate range of 0% to 0.25% unchanged and signaling that the economy still has a long way to go before it recovers.

The Federal Open Market Committee said it would buy up to $300 billion in longer-term Treasuries over the next six months, up to an additional $750 billion in agency mortgage-backed securities (bringing the total this year to $1.25 trillion) and up to an additional $100 billion in agency debt (bringing the total up to $200 billion).

“The purchase of the securities will likely drive rates down for a variety of consumer debt instruments,” said FOX Business Senior Economist Mark Lieberman.

“It’s going to be helpful to the consumer. Most people were expecting them to keep [this kind of action] on the table, but not announce the magnitude and specifics of a program to be implemented so quickly,” said Maryann Hurley, vice president at D.A. Davidson. “This is quite a positive move. You’re talking about more than a trillion dollars worth of purchases over a six-month period”

The purchases are a widely rumored but fairly unusual move from the Fed, showing that it’s continuing to take drastic action to revive the economy. This move focuses in particular on the credit markets, where lending activity still seems to be somewhat frozen.

Stocks and gold spiked higher on the announcement, because the action is likely to stoke inflation; the dollar fell, because pumping money into the system makes each dollar less valuable.

Still, some market watchers were saying that the euphoria in the wake of the announcement might not last long.

“The markets love it, but I'm personally scared as the Fed still doesn't understand that it’s not the cost of money that is the problem and they keep getting themselves deeper and deeper into this,” said Peter Boockvar of Miller Tabak in a research note. “I shudder at the thought of the unwind of all of this.”

“While I think that this is probably needed, it definitely does indicate the Fed’s concern with the state of the economy, which is really pretty bleak,” Hurley said.

In a separate statement, the Fed said it “will concentrate purchases in the 2- to 10-year sector of the nominal Treasury curve, although purchases will occur across the nominal Treasury and TIPS yield curves.”

The Fed’s policy statement showed continued deep concern about the economy.

“The economy continues to contract. Job losses, declining equity and housing wealth, and tight credit conditions have weighed on consumer sentiment and spending,” the statement said.

On an optimistic note, the Fed said it “anticipates that policy actions to stabilize financial markets and institutions, together with fiscal and monetary stimulus, will contribute to a gradual resumption of sustainable economic growth.” However, it didn’t provide a time frame by which that would occur.

The Fed noted that it sees “some risk that inflation could persist for a time.”

The Fed decision was unanimous.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/ma...---announced-plan-buy-b-long-term-treasuries/
 
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http://www.reuters.com/article/usdollarrpt/iduslj93633020090319

By Gleb Bryanski

MOSCOW, March 19 (Reuters) - China and other emerging nations back Russia's call for a discussion on how to replace the dollar as the world's primary reserve currency, a senior Russian government source said on Thursday. Russia has proposed the creation of a new reserve currency, to be issued by international financial institutions, among other measures in the text of its proposals to the April G20 summit published last Monday.
Calls for a rethink of the dollar's status as world's sole benchmark currency come amid concerns about its long-term value as the U.S. Federal Reserve moved to pump more than a trillion dollars of new cash into the ailing economy late Wednesday.

Russia met representatives of China, India and Brazil ahead of the G20 finance ministers meeting last week, as the big emerging powers seek to up their influence on decisionmaking globally. Their first ever joint communique did not mention a new currency but the source said the issue was discussed.

"They (China) did not formally put forward their position for the G20 summit but unofficially they had distributed their paper regarding the same ideas (the need for the new currency)," the source told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The source said the Chinese paper envisaged the International Monetary Fund's Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) being first assigned a role of a clearing currency on some transactions and then gradually becoming the main global reserve currency. "They said that the role of reserve currency should be given to SDR," the source said.

A U.N. panel of experts is also looking at using expanded SDRs, originally created by the International Monetary Fund in 1969, but now used mainly as an accounting unit within similar organisations as a new reserve currency instead of the dollar.

Currency specialist Avinash Persaud, a member of the U.N. panel, told a Reuters Funds Summit on Wednesday that the proposal was to create something like the old Ecu, or European currency unit, that was a hard-traded, weighted basket.

The SDR and the old Ecu are essentially combinations of currencies, weighted to a constituent's economic clout, which can be valued against other currencies and against those inside the basket.

The Russian source said Moscow was aware that the emergence of the new global currency would not happen overnight and said its goal was to initiate a discussion about it at the G20 summit in London on April 2.

The source said that India did not object to the discussion but was not prepared to take the lead. The source said South Korea and South Africa backed the idea, while developed nations were not "allergic" to it.

"We are not waiting for everyone to say: 'How beautifully it has all been formulated, let's subscribe to it'," the source said. "The main idea is to start a discussion about it."

Russia holds about half of its reserves, the world's third-largest, in dollars, with the rest in euros and pounds. Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has called on reserve currency issuers to show more financial discipline.

Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin told reporters on the sidelines of the G20 finance ministers meeting that it would take up to 30 years to create a new super-currency, suggesting there was no unity in Russia on the issue.

President Dmitry Medvedev's top economic aide and G20 sherpa Arkady Dvorkovich is behind the Kremlin's G20 proposals, made public one day after Kudrin returned from England. (Reporting by Gleb Bryanski; editing by Mike Dolan/Patrick Graham)
 
Re: Who Really Owns America?

Believe it or not, this is basically how it works today.

The Congress can issue all the money it wants. In theory, the Federal Reserve can only go to the US Bureau of Printing and Engraving by Act of Congress via the issuance of Treasury debt (notes/bills/bonds).

So, the Federal Reserve is accountable to Congress today.

Actually, in this capacity, the Federal Reserve could have been a check on the Congress. It could make the Congress pay market rates for its debt rather than arbitrarily setting rates and undercutting all other debt (corporate, personal, foreign government, etc.) by forcing it to explicitly collateralize each issue of a Treasury loan.

Unfortunately, the way it works now, Congress gets unlimited loans from the Federal Reserve.

So, Congress has the power now and they are abusing the HELL out of it.


This is a mis reading of how things got to where it is today.

Under Article I Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution Congress has the power to coin money and to set the value of both foreign and domestic money.
In 1913,I believe, Congress abdicated this power to the new Federal Reserve System. In essence Congress borrows money from the Federal Reserve, PRIVATE BANKS,Congress then must repay the Fed, again those PRIVATE BANKS with interest.Just look at the top of any U.S. currency and see what it says.....FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE....now if you got any older people around you I'm sure you've heard them talk about their car note, house note etc. Same thing a note is a loan to be repaid. With the recent action by the Fed to buy up to half of all mortgages, Credit card debt, car loans and some other debt. We all will be paying the Fed for our homes, cars, and credit card purchases to these PRIVATE BANKS with currency that itself is a loan to be paid back with interest to those same PRIVATE BANKS.Almost getting to the point where we won't be able to buy and sell unless we got the mark of the Beast.....errr....ummmmm Federal Reserve Note.

PEACE
BigUnc
 
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This is a mis reading of how things got to where it is today.

Under Article I Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution Congress has the power to coin money and to set the value of both foreign and domestic money.
In 1913,I believe, Congress abdicated this power to the new Federal Reserve System. In essence Congress borrows money from the Federal Reserve, PRIVATE BANKS,Congress then must repay the Fed, again those PRIVATE BANKS with interest.Just look at the top of any U.S. currency and see what it says.....FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE....now if you got any older people around you I'm sure you've heard them talk about their car note, house note etc. Same thing a note is a loan to be repaid. With the recent action by the Fed to buy up to half of all mortgages, Credit card debt, car loans and some other debt. We all will be paying the Fed for our homes, cars, and credit card purchases to these PRIVATE BANKS with currency that itself is a loan to be paid back with interest to those same PRIVATE BANKS.Almost getting to the point where we won't be able to buy and sell unless we got the mark of the Beast.....errr....ummmmm Federal Reserve Note.

PEACE
BigUnc

You are trying to explain how the Federal Reserve System works... to me? :D

I agree with everything in your post, except the first sentence, which has me scratching my head.
 
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You are trying to explain how the Federal Reserve System works... to me? :D

I agree with everything in your post, except the first sentence, which has me scratching my head.

I read your post as though you believed the FED is or a kind of check on Congress, as though Congress or the Executive branch had some meaningful authority over currency issues. I would certainly disagree with that. If it was I that misunderstood you then it's my bad.

Carry on:D
 
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Who Really Owns America ?

China...why? Because our reps sold us out...when Maxine Waters and Charlie Rangel are under investigation for ethics violations, it's over, our whole system is probably corrupt.. If this country doesn't adapt to change we are thru dealing. It's time to streamline the govt, re-write the constitution, censure the media, make greed a threat to national security and give power back to the people. The ones who aren't 'educated' that is.
 
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Here is where I slightly disagree, here is my reason: If US Notes were issued, at least, Congress would be accountable. Under the current Federal Reserve System, They raise and lower interest rates, print money, set-up Term Auction Facilities etc. AND are accountable to no one. What we should demand is that Congress reassert it's constitutional authority to coin money and regulate the value thereof



I can't say his act was selfish, IMO, that is the 'change' that people want to see. Anyone, Tell me if the following statement is not true?

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. - Thomas Jefferson,

Exactly, it is congress that is supposed to control the financial policy of our nation, not some "private" faceless entity that is all powerful. There was a video posted not too long ago where Alan Greenspan just basically committed that the Fed could just do what the fuck they wanted. The arrogance was astounding.

Him and Bernanke should be shot.

Maybe Socialism wouldn't be so bad...

The quote was right, in a Democracy people get the government THEY deserve, but it is because WE aren't what WE should be that our government is failing. I know it's not popular sentiment on this board, but I personally believe that the American people DID NOT want change, which is why they elected Obama. They want to continue to be lazy and watch "American Idol" and have our tabloids and eat bad food and have this guy do all the work and magically wave his wand and return life to 1998. That's what they want. Living responsibly is the last thing the American people want. And that's why ultimately we are where we are. Democracy didn't fail us, we failed Democracy.


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LMAO.

Don't you love how "Oil Exporters" and "Caribbean Banking Centers" are the no. 3 and 4 holders of our debt?
 
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A lot of you have valid and solid points. But have any of you noticed the following?...

1) Both Kennedy and Lincoln were killed for doing the same thing...(Taking the control away from the Federal Reserve)

2) US Notes are nothing more than fancy looking "I Owe You" sheets.

3) Those that were and/or are in power were smart enough to put a statue of limitation on the people's intelligence.


This means, people are so well brainwashed and/or programmed with that "You will do nothing but complain, forget, and continue as if nothing ever happen" syndrome, which continues to be in full effort till this day. This is why every ten to twenty to thirty years after the crime was committed pieces of the truth are accidentally-on-purpose leaked out to the public...basically diverting your attention from the new crimes being committed.

But I do commend those here that are aware of some of the non-sense that is going on in America and furthermore, the world.
 
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