The Official Obama Debate Thread (Mods Pls Sticky!!)
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cosign - health problems with her son is a good excuse - theyll pick up romney or lieberman
i thought fox said obama wonFox News/Sean Hannity say
82% McCain
17% Obama
1% Undecided
Man I don't want to believe it either but Obama's made it this far I'm starting to drink the koolaid.
Don't get me wrong, I still think the majority of Americans are idiots...but even broken clocks are right twice a day.
You silly!
Actually I believe that Obama knew where the power structure was for him to gain political leverage over his constituents in Chicago. Guess what...you go to the church where all the 'believers' are at.
So to answer your question, he would have attended ANY church where the black vote was at.
This is one fact that I think Juan Williams was dead right on.
So to help you help yourself...
there are 2 types of people when it comes to Obama:
Those who bury their head in the sand and those who truly believe he is "pure"
I'm not one to ever ignore the cracks on the surface.The Frank Luntz focus group said Obama won.
Fox republicans guest commentators said Obama won.
The Fox viewers of course is another story........
Alright calm down Makko. He obviously called McCain out as a liar, and I believe most of the viewers know it. There's still more debates and issues to cover.
Man I don't want to believe it either but Obama's made it this far I'm starting to drink the koolaid.
Don't get me wrong, I still think the majority of Americans are idiots...but even broken clocks are right twice a day.
i wnted obama to use the broken clock line about the surge
damn - im surprised they reported it
So to help you help yourself...
there are 2 types of people when it comes to Obama:
Those who bury their head in the sand and those who truly believe he is "pure"
There are 3 types. The third are people like me who understand completely that Obama is a politician. He plays politics. However his stance on the issues and plans compared to McCain make far better sense for this country. Do I think he'll follow up on every campaign promise? Hell no. No politician ever does. Are these things he does or will do that I won't agree with, hell yeah. Barack getting elected also will mean that this country has finally awaken from it's apathetic slumber and started to pay attention to the political issues.
As for Obama "running" from his blackness as some people say...let's be honest, most of us do. When we are at work are we the same militants we are in the barbershop or beauty shop. Hell no.
As for Obama playing it safe... our current president is the reckless "I'm the decider" asshole that everyone hates... Obama is being the respectful, diplomatic presence that everyone knows we need right now.
Plus, again, the Republicans are basically killing themselves with Palin. She's like Daunte Culpepper fumbling the ball over and over and over again without getting hit or pressured. And no team in their right mind would be throwing bombs when they're up 3 TD's against a team that keeps turning the ball over.
There's a time to be reckless and on the offensive, but that time isn't now. Now's the time to be diplomatic, and show how you can responsibly control the country without getting your emotions involved. Obama is doing just that.
There's playing it safe, and then there's playing it smart. Obama is doing the latter. He's not going to win anyone over by attacking conservatives. He needs to attract independents by showing he isn't partisan, and that he acts like a president should.
Plus, again, the Republicans are basically killing themselves with Palin. She's like Daunte Culpepper fumbling the ball over and over and over again without getting hit or pressured. And no team in their right mind would be throwing bombs when they're up 3 TD's against a team that keeps turning the ball over.
There's a time to be reckless and on the offensive, but that time isn't now. Now's the time to be diplomatic, and show how you can responsibly control the country without getting your emotions involved. Obama is doing just that.
There's playing it safe, and then there's playing it smart. Obama is doing the latter. He's not going to win anyone over by attacking conservatives. He needs to attract independents by showing he isn't partisan, and that he acts like a president should.
yeah but those debates will all have mccain giving the same responses
co-sign..........
That's the steven seagall batty boy fighting style..... it looks soft but it works.
Fuck the debate Makk...wtf happened last night with your USC boys?
Just fucking wit ya
pete carroll was doing his john mccain impressionFuck the debate Makk...wtf happened last night with your USC boys?
I'm a left leaning moderate. If Obama was as obstinate on the issues as McCain (and to a larger degree Palin) is, I wouldn't be voting for him. That is the honest truth; my choices are objective and I research issues important to me. I'm a single socially conscious fiscal conservative, and don't mind paying (certain) taxes if I know the money is being spent on things that directly affect me or help those less fortunate. Also, there are many ways to get around taxes if you're willing to find them, so I'm not too worried about that.
Anyway, am I proud that an articulate, principled, well educated, well informed black man WILL BE the first minority POTUS? Damn right! However, if it was someone like Jesse Jackson... hell no I wouldn't vote for him.
BO did what he needed to do tonight! The next two debates are 
Obama's home field advantage.
Obama's home field advantage.
cosigned
although i dont have much faith in what barry will do in office but im willing to believe it will be better than president palin
Probably the most objective post of the night. Co-sign
BO did what he needed to do tonight! The next two debates are
yeah, the talking heads are going why didn't he get aggressive...nobody wants to see the "angry black man"
besides the man deals with domestic issues next go around..please palin will ruin the mcflop week next week
My $.02
This a chess match...
Obama is focused on winning the election. Right now Obama is up in the polls...and the polls do not factor:
So all Obama had to do was "stay on message" and not LOSE ANY VOTERS.
McCain after being down in the polls and taking a beating in the press.......had the pressure to perform.
This a chess match...
Obama is focused on winning the election. Right now Obama is up in the polls...and the polls do not factor:
- Millions of new registered Democratic Voters
- People that have not voted in the last 2 elections
- People that can not be reached by LAN phone
So all Obama had to do was "stay on message" and not LOSE ANY VOTERS.
McCain after being down in the polls and taking a beating in the press.......had the pressure to perform.
Comment from CNN messageboard:
September 26th, 2008 11:09 pm ET
Obama giving credit to McCain on issues where he though McCain was right was a Presidential approach to take. Contrast that with McCain being completely unable to even give credit to Obama when they totally agree on issues……I think McCain came across as smug, condescending, confrontational, and defensive. Overall, Obama came across as knowledgeable, steady, and ready to lead.
September 26th, 2008 11:09 pm ET
Obama giving credit to McCain on issues where he though McCain was right was a Presidential approach to take. Contrast that with McCain being completely unable to even give credit to Obama when they totally agree on issues……I think McCain came across as smug, condescending, confrontational, and defensive. Overall, Obama came across as knowledgeable, steady, and ready to lead.
CNN messageboard:
September 26th, 2008 11:15 pm ET
Whenever a political figure is wreckless enough to announce that he thinks Putin is KGB on GLOBALLY BROADCAST television coverage…we cannot afford as a nation to give him the power to act on is feelings. McCain is a dangerous old man and cannot be given power to act.
If he were elected we would be in a world war by the middle of his first term…he is already laying the groundwork. What is even more scary is the fact that he is too riddled with cancer to live through the war he begins and our nation would be stuck with Palin who cannot even answer a question in an interview with Couric. Wake up America…run from this while we still have the chance. NO MORE BUSH and that means NO MCCAIN/Palin
September 26th, 2008 11:15 pm ET
Whenever a political figure is wreckless enough to announce that he thinks Putin is KGB on GLOBALLY BROADCAST television coverage…we cannot afford as a nation to give him the power to act on is feelings. McCain is a dangerous old man and cannot be given power to act.
If he were elected we would be in a world war by the middle of his first term…he is already laying the groundwork. What is even more scary is the fact that he is too riddled with cancer to live through the war he begins and our nation would be stuck with Palin who cannot even answer a question in an interview with Couric. Wake up America…run from this while we still have the chance. NO MORE BUSH and that means NO MCCAIN/Palin
MzKittyDelicious,
I have to respectfully disagree on part of your argument. Obama has carried himself as A man in this campaign. Now, there may be some things that you as a black person or black woman would have him do in a setting that pertained ONLY to us.
However, he is trying to get elected by blacks, Hispanics, AND whites. He has to appeal to the majority WITHOUT SACRIFICING SELF and that is long row to hoe and a tough line to walk. I don't see him selling out to the white man in any of his actions. I think we as blacks have our own "black" meter which was created for us by whites to decipher someone's blackness. Just not healthy.
However, after saying all of this, you did say you support him and I have to take my hat off to you on that. You see the big picture but just look at what brother's have to do everyday just to prepare to compete in the world and they are NOT running for president.
I have to respectfully disagree on part of your argument. Obama has carried himself as A man in this campaign. Now, there may be some things that you as a black person or black woman would have him do in a setting that pertained ONLY to us.
However, he is trying to get elected by blacks, Hispanics, AND whites. He has to appeal to the majority WITHOUT SACRIFICING SELF and that is long row to hoe and a tough line to walk. I don't see him selling out to the white man in any of his actions. I think we as blacks have our own "black" meter which was created for us by whites to decipher someone's blackness. Just not healthy.
However, after saying all of this, you did say you support him and I have to take my hat off to you on that. You see the big picture but just look at what brother's have to do everyday just to prepare to compete in the world and they are NOT running for president.
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fox:
http://elections.foxnews.com/
Who won the first presidential debate in Oxford?
Barack Obama (54%)
John McCain (46%)
Total Voters: 10,932
http://elections.foxnews.com/
Who won the first presidential debate in Oxford?
Barack Obama (54%)
John McCain (46%)
Total Voters: 10,932
just goes to show that most women have no clue what manhood is about.
Obama hasn't turned his back on Black folks just because he's not pandering to the least common denominator. the man isn't running to be president of Black folks, and has made no specific address to ANY individual ethnic group.
in this he shows wisdom. his address on race should've deaded any feelings of Black abandonment anyone has.
they said for barack obama they wanted to "see some more specifics".
i thought obama was the one that was being more specific in this debate. wasn't mccain the one that generalized and repeated himself throughout the entire debate? especially with questions about what each candidate would do specifically obama spoke about the things he had ready to implement while mccain talked about "waht the country needs, what needs to be done, the problem with this and that etc etc"
I don't know if this was brought up but mcbush didn't have a flag pin on.
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