Why are black people NOT demanding answers from John McCain?

the civil rights march and protests didn't wait for a democrat to get into office that wasn't part of the plan..they did what they had to regardless of whos president.

thats why i said that attitude you expressed is pussified...it doesn't demand answers from whoever is in charge...ONLY THE BLACK PERSON.

would these questions even be raised if hillary was the nominee?

Hardly. It's not my attitude. My attitude is do what you want. In this situation and any. I simply expressed how I believe many others view the situation. I think its obvious that I'm right because if I wasnt we wouldnt be having this conversation right now. Would these questions be asked if it was Hilary? Who knows. Should they be asked? Sure.
Should they be asked of McCain? Sure
Should they be asked of any candidate now and future? Sure.

Will they? Who knows. If they are asked this election Obama will get the bulk of them. Which in some ways makese sense because blacks are investing their hopes in him. However I do agree with you about asking these issues to all candidates. It would be great if people practiced that. Heck even you could go and hold up a banner at a McCain rally just like those other guys did for Obama. Most wont though and they wont for the reasons that I listed. They don't care about McCain so they don't try to invest anything into him at all. It's short sighted.

I'm not here to disagree with you because I don't disagree with you. I simply answered the question to your thread with the answer that I feel is the truth.
 
I think its bullshit that no black "leaders" or activists are taking mccain to task on black issues. The notion that Obama has placated every voter group BUT blacks while Mccain gets a pass is BULLSHIT.

All these demands that Obama talk on issues specific to blacks yet mccain doesn't have to...is BULLSHIT.

Ask Mccain his whats his opinion of the sean bell shooting...
Ask Mccain what he did during katrina...
Ask Mccain his views on reparations and affirmative action.
Ask Mccain what HE plans to do about judicial disparity and predatory lending practices as it pertains to blacks specifically.


Both candidates are running for President of the United States...that means that black issues are just as important as hispanic issues and jewish issues.

This pussified attitude that barack obama addresses every issue but black ones so we should "cut his nuts off" meanwhile lets ignore john mccain because we SHOULDN'T expect him to do anything for us anyhow is so fucked up its beyond funny.

:smh:

Please tell me when African Americans asked "similar" TOUGH ASS QUESTIONS ABOVE to BILL CLINTON during his 8 years in Office?

You just played yourself as an ignorant, fake-ass militant, extremist KNEEGRO!

Get over it already, WE AS BLACK PEOPLE WILL NEVER GET REPARATIONS, asking ANY President or Candidate about Reparations only MAKES YOU LOOK IGNORANT!

McCain is a SENATOR just like OBAMA, he did the same thing as OBAMA did during "Katrina"..........next question; now do you see how STUPID YOU LOOK?

Presidents don't MICROMANAGE down to the level of incidents like the Sean Bell Shooting, you have Governors, State Police, Local Police, District Attorneys, Internal Affairs Depts. within Police Forces; there are TONS of level of Authority to go through before a PRESIDENT gets involved with shit like; to ask a President or a Candidate about that type of SHIT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A POLITICALLY RETARDED FOOL.

If these are your expectations from a Presidential Candidate, then you don't know JACK SHIT ABOUT POLITICS; maybe you should try being an INTELLIGENT NINJA rather than a MILITANT NINJA!
 

Please tell me when African Americans asked "similar" TOUGH ASS QUESTIONS ABOVE to BILL CLINTON during his 8 years in Office?

You just played yourself as an ignorant, fake-ass militant, extremist KNEEGRO!

Get over it already, WE AS BLACK PEOPLE WILL NEVER GET REPARATIONS, asking ANY President or Candidate about Reparations only MAKES YOU LOOK IGNORANT!

McCain is a SENATOR just like OBAMA, he did the same thing as OBAMA did during "Katrina"..........next question; now do you see how STUPID YOU LOOK?

Presidents don't MICROMANAGE down to the level of incidents like the Sean Bell Shooting, you have Governors, State Police, Local Police, District Attorneys, Internal Affairs Depts. within Police Forces; there are TONS of level of Authority to go through before a PRESIDENT gets involved with shit like; to ask a President or a Candidate about that type of SHIT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A POLITICALLY RETARDED FOOL.

If these are your expectations from a Presidential Candidate, then you don't know JACK SHIT ABOUT POLITICS; maybe you should try being an INTELLIGENT NINJA rather than a MILITANT NINJA!

You didn't read shit else in this thread and don't know where it stems from, huh :smh:
 
and when obama says that its not good enough..yet the white man makes that statement and we go away with heads bowed...

COME ON MAN..WAKE THE FUCK UP!! SERIOUSLY...DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU??

all this talk of field negros and house negros yet all the field negros are scared to demand answers from the white man directly :smh: why??

:lol:Come on,what world are you living in?Most blacks wouldn't walk away with bowed heads,our ego's are way to big for that.Another thing we would generally do what we do to the rest of em,WRITE EM OFF "house ******","Coon","trader","cracker lover" we would go back to chit chatter about Jesse Jackson and Al sharpton and god knows we love them.

:dance:I uderstand the whole thing about waiting until we make history and let him get his foot into the door,blah blah blah.
 
Hardly. It's not my attitude. My attitude is do what you want. In this situation and any. I simply expressed how I believe many others view the situation. I think its obvious that I'm right because if I wasnt we wouldnt be having this conversation right now. Would these questions be asked if it was Hilary? Who knows. Should they be asked? Sure.
Should they be asked of McCain? Sure
Should they be asked of any candidate now and future? Sure.

Will they? Who knows. If they are asked this election Obama will get the bulk of them. Which in some ways makese sense because blacks are investing their hopes in him. However I do agree with you about asking these issues to all candidates. It would be great if people practiced that. Heck even you could go and hold up a banner at a McCain rally just like those other guys did for Obama. Most wont though and they wont for the reasons that I listed. They don't care about McCain so they don't try to invest anything into him at all. It's short sighted.

I'm not here to disagree with you because I don't disagree with you. I simply answered the question to your thread with the answer that I feel is the truth.

i'm not saying your pussified..i'm saying that that attitude is pussified..i don't demad that obama make special envoys for the black community because i've seen his track record and his choices and black people are never far from his consideration in anything he does or has done..unlike a few people on here who expect him to morph into stokely carmicheal soon.

but if your going to ask and demand from him the ask and demand from the other..since they are going for the SAME JOB.
 
If john mccain was SMART he could EASILY leak black votes from obama by seriously addressing black concerns..isn't he suppose to be the maverick who bucks the system when necessary??? He's not suppose to be a regular republican...at least thats his line.

And what are whites or conservatives who feel slighted gonna as an alternative vote for obama or barr (which means obama wins anyway)..

Mccain has every opportunity to build a decent relation with the black community on these issues and put pressure on Obama to respond..
If winning an election was just up to the black vote then Jessie Jackson would have won back when he was relevant. Obama needs to appeal to everyone and if you didn't notice there are more Hispanics and whites in this country that actually get out and vote than blacks that get out and vote. I'm voting Obama because I would have never in my lifetime expected to have an option to actually have a black president. Getting him in office can help this country move away from it's racist views. How is that so hard to understand.

Some black folks kill me with this "I'll vote for McCain if he addresses my issues" are you fucking kidding me:confused: What white president has done that for blacks in the past 50 years,and please check Clinton's record before you start talking about him.

Obama needs to be the best candidate for the country not for just for blacks. Look at where he came from. I don't think we have to worry about black issues. Damn get a clue:angry:
 
You didn't read shit else in this thread and don't know where it stems from, huh :smh:

My point is is that Black are "selective" in their demands from the White House, example:

Klinton was in Office for 8 yrs.; not one Black leader ANYWHERE asks for an "Apology for Slavery"; yet as SOON as Dubya (as stupid as he is) is sworn in Blacks come out of the woodwork asking for apologies for Slavery and everything else.

BTW Obama has publicly said that he AGAINST REPARATIONS for descendants of former slaves.
 

Please tell me when African Americans asked "similar" TOUGH ASS QUESTIONS ABOVE to BILL CLINTON during his 8 years in Office?

You just played yourself as an ignorant, fake-ass militant, extremist KNEEGRO!

Get over it already, WE AS BLACK PEOPLE WILL NEVER GET REPARATIONS, asking ANY President or Candidate about Reparations only MAKES YOU LOOK IGNORANT!

McCain is a SENATOR just like OBAMA, he did the same thing as OBAMA did during "Katrina"..........next question; now do you see how STUPID YOU LOOK?

Presidents don't MICROMANAGE down to the level of incidents like the Sean Bell Shooting, you have Governors, State Police, Local Police, District Attorneys, Internal Affairs Depts. within Police Forces; there are TONS of level of Authority to go through before a PRESIDENT gets involved with shit like; to ask a President or a Candidate about that type of SHIT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A POLITICALLY RETARDED FOOL.

If these are your expectations from a Presidential Candidate, then you don't know JACK SHIT ABOUT POLITICS; maybe you should try being an INTELLIGENT NINJA rather than a MILITANT NINJA!

okay..its clear that you haven't been paying attention for the last week because these questions ARE being asked of obama..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/02/obama-opposes-slavery-rep_n_116506.html

this is an article where obama is asked about reparations.

a young black perosn just yesterday asked obama about the bell incident and jena 6..

so these question ARE being raised to him specifically..

now PAY ATTENTION before you start ripping off shit off the top of your head.:rolleyes:
 
i'm not saying your pussified..i'm saying that that attitude is pussified..i don't demad that obama make special envoys for the black community because i've seen his track record and his choices and black people are never far from his consideration in anything he does or has done..unlike a few people on here who expect him to morph into stokely carmicheal soon.

but if your going to ask and demand from him the ask and demand from the other..since they are going for the SAME JOB.

Fair enough.
 
okay..its clear that you haven't been paying attention for the last week because these questions ARE being asked of obama..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/02/obama-opposes-slavery-rep_n_116506.html

this is an article where obama is asked about reparations.

a young black perosn just yesterday asked obama about the bell incident and jena 6..

so these question ARE being raised to him specifically..

now PAY ATTENTION before you start ripping off shit off the top of your head.:rolleyes:

I have paid attention!

My POINT is that anyone that asks those types of questions to McCain or OBAMA or any PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE is POLITICALLY RETARDED; I made that point CLEAR in my original response.

The only question that has any credibility are question about how they would handle ANOTHER "Katrina-like" disaster; all those other question ARE IGNORANT to ask to a Presidential Candidate.

Obama clearly qualifies as a Presidential Candidate so my response INCLUDED HIM ALSO!

R.I.F. Muthafucka, it IS fundamental!
 
I bet you they don't even know who their local state senators and congressman are.

And they effect local change a lot more.

Like black people are expecting Obama to change the police situation in New York, like with Sean Bell :hmm: Who the fuck appoints the police commissioner :hmm:

Fuckin ignorance :smh:


C/S.

God November cant come fast enough

Seriously...Shit's becoming irritating..
 
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PREACH!!!!!!!!

niggas only want to attack blks.....

yet they say nothing to BUSH....MCAIN...

crabs in a damn barrel.....
 
Ron Paul supports segregation. Libertarians are a bitch.
i support segregation also. black folks were building their own power base until desegregation fucked it all up.


they didn't want us to have the same quality of life as their while segregated, nor while desegregated.
 
This is an interesting question....but you realize there is no "Black people" as you allude to in your question. Let me explain what I mean. In order to play both sides against the middle which is what you are talking about and means us in fact dealing politically on a mature level meaning we get what we want NO MATTER WHO IS IN OFFICE then our people MUST BE ORGANIZED. ONLY when we are organized can you even speak in terms of why "Black people" do this or don't do that and you certainly cannot speak about us stepping to the Republicans AND the Democrats and determining who will give us more of what we need.

This is the problem with all of those on here talking about how much they love Obama. Politics in Amerikkka aint about love. It is about forcing whoever has power to give you what you need. And I don't mean a campaign promise...okay you can promise and we'll see how you make good on those but what we ask for you can give us RIGHT NOW....not in November not after the inauguration....right NOW!! Then we will vote for you. Otherwise you can kiss your political aspirations good bye. That's how the game is played fam. Not the other way around not how we been doin for 44years. what has voting gotten us in 44years? Not a damn thing. Because voting is a tool we don't even know how to use. What we have we got because we took it to the streets. You don't want to have to get yours in the street...you wanna go to polls and see what that will get you then GET ORGANIZED fam...change the game.
 
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sooo ron paul doesn't have to address the specific needs of the black community because he'll be good for the WHOLE country (because that will affect blacks as well)..but barack obama SHOULD address the specific needs of the black community regardless of what he does for the whole country (even tho that will affect blacks as well)...

why are you bending over backwards to give this white man a pass??

Whats ron pauls record in helping the black community?

Ron Paul wouldnt' do shit for the black community.

He is only relevant to bunker dwelling white people waiting for the "revolution" and/or the collapse of the United States as whole..which is the dumbest shit in the world to wish for if you live here. The only black people who follow him are those that spend most of their time reading conspiracy theorist blogs and getting their news from batshit insane websites (prisonplanet, littlegreenfootballs, etc.).

He's already been exposed several times on Meet the Press and his idealogies wouldn't work even if he WERE to get elected.

/rant
 
we're not talking about republicans we're talking about the president...we're talking about american citizens who have concerns and want answers from the american presidential candidate about those concerns..

there is no smoke screen thats the same rational used to ask obama questions. If thats the case then why is mccain working so hard for the hispanics vote..they vote democrat mostly as well?

:smh: We're talking about a republican presidential candidate, mccain..... Hispanic voters have always been huge for republicans, and they definitely came up huge for him in the recent elections. Who do blacks vote and have always voted for overwhelmingly? Democrats. Its not exactly a secret, Which is why your question is a smoke screen, Repubs don't give a shit about issues important to blacks, so why would Mccain? If Mccain skipped snubbed the State of the Black union, which is a huge format dealing with black issues, then why the fuck would he give a shit somebody like Sean Bell?

Come on bruh its painfully obvious what you are trying to do with this thread. Obama is a democrat and Blacks are its constituency, you make it seem as if Both parties have been fighting equally for the black vote.
 
everybody already knows mccain gives a fuk about the black community.....until he needs their vote. just look at his voting record over the last 2 decades. but obama has already spoken on issues central to black america. the problem is, most young black folks are ignorant to what he said, so they go around thinking he hasn't said sheit since THEY didn't hear it....which is what happened the other day when those 3 young dummies held up that sign and disrupted his speech.

he already spoke on the sheit they were hollarin about
 
everybody already knows mccain gives a fuk about the black community.....until he needs their vote. just look at his voting record over the last 2 decades. but obama has already spoken on issues central to black america. the problem is, most young black folks are ignorant to what he said, so they go around thinking he hasn't said sheit since THEY didn't hear it....which is what happened the other day when those 3 young dummies held up that sign and disrupted his speech.

he already spoke on the sheit they were hollarin about

Their was nothing "dumb" about that brotha that spoke.:smh: And stop kidding yourself or trying to delude others by claiming Obama has offered a program on what he will do as president to address the issues raised by that brotha or others that particularly effect Black folks. :smh: Yall fall in love wit muh fuckas too damn easy. This is politics yo and politics is war without bloodshed.
 
Ron Paul wouldnt' do shit for the black community.

He is only relevant to bunker dwelling white people waiting for the "revolution" and/or the collapse of the United States as whole..which is the dumbest shit in the world to wish for if you live here. The only black people who follow him are those that spend most of their time reading conspiracy theorist blogs and getting their news from batshit insane websites (prisonplanet, littlegreenfootballs, etc.).

He's already been exposed several times on Meet the Press and his idealogies wouldn't work even if he WERE to get elected.
/rant

you are the kind of american that needs to be done away with. i highlighted the most bullshit part of your bullshit.
 
I'm sooo sick of you fuckin' Obama nut-riders.

Barry got 96 percent of the Black vote in some instances, so of course Black folks are gonna hold him to a higher standard.

THATS WHAT HAPPENS IN POLITICS!!!!

Why do the Evangelical Christians expect more from George W. Bush, than they do from any Democrat? Because the Evangelicals are the ones who pushed Reagan, Bush, and Bush II into office. You are accountable to the people who vote for you idiots!!!!

Now, I agree that McCain, if elected is accountable to all Americans, but as of now, he's only accountable to the people of Arizona, who elected him and the people he wants to vote for him. That's why McCain is accountable to the NRA, Rush Limbaugh & Ann Coulter, and all the Right-wing nut jobs, who've hated his guts the past 20 years, even though he hates them too. He still has to kiss their asses. That's why he's probably gonna name Mitt Romney as his V.P. candidate, even though he hates Mitt Romney. He's accountable to the people he wants to vote for him.

Obama is the same. If he wants Black people to vote for him, then you can't ignore Blacks, except for when you want to show White folks that you can go all "Bill Cosby" on us.

I'm tired of y'all justifying his shoe-shuffling. If he wants our vote, he should act like he wants our vote, and stop acting as if we're embarrassing him, when if his campaign & the media hadn't manipulated Black people into thinking The Clintons were part of the KKK, then he wouldn't be in the position he's in now. He needs us, just like McCain needs rednecks. Bet you you won't see McCain "discipling" rednecks about how they raise their kids and their racist, gun-toting ways.

Wanna bet?


And Black people did hold Clinton & Gore to a higher standard than they did The Republikkkans, which is why Bill Clinton was on BET during his presidency, and Al Gore was talking about listening to Hip-Hop, even after he and his wife basically tried to ban it a decade earlier. That's what happens during elections. You pander to your base.
 
I bet you they don't even know who their local state senators and congressman are.

And they effect local change a lot more.

Like black people are expecting Obama to change the police situation in New York, like with Sean Bell :hmm: Who the fuck appoints the police commissioner :hmm:

Fuckin ignorance :smh:
C/S

I've been trying to tell black folk that claim Obama "isn't gonna help black folk" about this all year...they still don't get it. Mofos didn't pay attention in their civics class. There ain't shit Obama or any other president do about police brutality. WTF do you think Obama could have done about the Sean Bell incident? Not a damn thing. If these idiots want to hold someone accountable they need to look at their local government. Most of these idiots complaining though only vote once every 4 years and don't understand what's going on at the local government level.

As far as Ron Paul....Give me a fucking break. Anyone who thinks Ron Paul as President would be any different is an idiot. Let's say he did win, he still has to deal with the democrats and republicans in the Senate and House....you think they are gonna let anything he does pass? Fuck no. He'd be compromising left and right. He probably wouldn't get anything done. The President isn't a dictator, he still has to get support. Ron Paul has basically zero support for the majority of his ideas. He's able to talk all that shit because even he knows he HAS ZERO CHANCE TO WIN. Trust me, if it looked like he could win, he'd be forced to compromise some of his radical positions too. It's politics people. Stop being stupid.
 
Please explain.
your spiel about ron paul is nothing but propaganda that you have bought into. you think the ones in control aren't happy you think that way about him? dude's run at the white house was heavily sabotaged by the media. the sheeple just like you, wrote him off as crazy. the truth is always met with denial, then violent opposal, then acceptance.
 
I'm sooo sick of you fuckin' Obama nut-riders.

Barry got 96 percent of the Black vote in some instances, so of course Black folks are gonna hold him to a higher standard.

THATS WHAT HAPPENS IN POLITICS!!!!

Why do the Evangelical Christians expect more from George W. Bush, than they do from any Democrat? Because the Evangelicals are the ones who pushed Reagan, Bush, and Bush II into office. You are accountable to the people who vote for you idiots!!!!

Now, I agree that McCain, if elected is accountable to all Americans, but as of now, he's only accountable to the people of Arizona, who elected him and the people he wants to vote for him. That's why McCain is accountable to the NRA, Rush Limbaugh & Ann Coulter, and all the Right-wing nut jobs, who've hated his guts the past 20 years, even though he hates them too. He still has to kiss their asses. That's why he's probably gonna name Mitt Romney as his V.P. candidate, even though he hates Mitt Romney. He's accountable to the people he wants to vote for him.

Obama is the same. If he wants Black people to vote for him, then you can't ignore Blacks, except for when you want to show White folks that you can go all "Bill Cosby" on us.

I'm tired of y'all justifying his shoe-shuffling. If he wants our vote, he should act like he wants our vote, and stop acting as if we're embarrassing him, when if his campaign & the media hadn't manipulated Black people into thinking The Clintons were part of the KKK, then he wouldn't be in the position he's in now. He needs us, just like McCain needs rednecks. Bet you you won't see McCain "discipling" rednecks about how they raise their kids and their racist, gun-toting ways.

Wanna bet?

1. evangelicals expect ANY president to deal with their issues thats why candidates from BOTH sides break their necks to court their vote. Just as jews expect WHOEVER gets in office to do for them regardless of which side of the aisle theyre on. Also I don't see republicans giving up on the hispanic vote either..why shouldn't blacks do the same thing?

2. I'm not justifying anything for obama..i'm saying that both men are running for the SAME JOB which is leader of ALL of america so both men should answer the same questions and be held to flames if their answers are not good enough...not get pissed off with obama but give mccain a pass...thats bullshit..

3. Our concerns and issues exist no matter who is in office...racism in the justice is a problem for AMERICAN CITIZENS not just black folks..predatory lending is a problem for ALL AMERICANS not just black folks..As AMERICAN CITIZENS we should be demanding answers from ANYONE who wants to lead this country not just the BLACK candidate nor should we expect LESS from the white candidate just because we didn't vote for him...thats bullshit.

And Black people did hold Clinton & Gore to a higher standard than they did The Republikkkans, which is why Bill Clinton was on BET during his presidency, and Al Gore was talking about listening to Hip-Hop, even after he and his wife basically tried to ban it a decade earlier. That's what happens during elections. You pander to your base.
thats all it takes to get our vote???
not improve conditions in the black community or reform the racist judicial system or improve education in the black community...all they had to was go on bet and claim to listen to hip hop..jesus we don't ask for much do we..:smh:
 
You have to understand that Florida is a Bush backing republican state. Those bama ass ninjas should be ashamed of themselves. Black people in Florida will more than likely vote for McCain or not vote at all.:smh::smh:

My brother moved down there a few years ago and advised me of the bullshit that blacks put up with with Florida being a right to work state.

Sooo sad man....:smh:
 
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Honestly, if you were mccain would you care about the black vote?

Be honest. I mean he would have to be senile not to have seen that even in the democratic primary obama was getting over 90%, what chance does he have.

What the black leaders gonna do if mccain doesn't answer them, tell black people not to vote for him. :lol::lol:

And remember, obama is playing chess, we have agreed that the black leaders need to STFU and let obama do this, remember? Don't need them hounding the old white man, that aint a good look. :smh:
 
Honestly, if you were mccain would you care about the black vote?

actually..yes..why not try to leak some black votes...he's supposed to be the straight talking maverick..not a regular conservative...why not go for the black and latino vote.

Be honest. I mean he would have to be senile not to have seen that even in the democratic primary obama was getting over 90%, what chance does he have.
he has nothing to lose...who are whites going to vote for in response? bob barr?:lol:

What the black leaders gonna do if mccain doesn't answer them, tell black people not to vote for him. :lol::lol:
you could ask that question of obama as well.. seriously


And remember, obama is playing chess, we have agreed that the black leaders need to STFU and let obama do this, remember? Don't need them hounding the old white man, that aint a good look. :smh:

this is supposed to be about black interest period..one candidate has nothing to do with the other...
 
1. evangelicals expect ANY president to deal with their issues thats why candidates from BOTH sides break their necks to court their vote. Just as jews expect WHOEVER gets in office to do for them regardless of which side of the aisle theyre on. Also I don't see republicans giving up on the hispanic vote either..why shouldn't blacks do the same thing?

2. I'm not justifying anything for obama..i'm saying that both men are running for the SAME JOB which is leader of ALL of america so both men should answer the same questions and be held to flames if their answers are not good enough...not get pissed off with obama but give mccain a pass...thats bullshit..

3. Our concerns and issues exist no matter who is in office...racism in the justice is a problem for AMERICAN CITIZENS not just black folks..predatory lending is a problem for ALL AMERICANS not just black folks..As AMERICAN CITIZENS we should be demanding answers from ANYONE who wants to lead this country not just the BLACK candidate nor should we expect LESS from the white candidate just because we didn't vote for him...thats bullshit.


thats all it takes to get our vote???
not improve conditions in the black community or reform the racist judicial system or improve education in the black community...all they had to was go on bet and claim to listen to hip hop..jesus we don't ask for much do we..:smh:

Yup. Pathetic in a way. But hey thats the situation.
 
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