...paging Cranrab...(Part 2)

Rollie_Fingaz

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Did you happen to catch this article??

Lakers 38% Better When Kobe Isn't A High Volume Shooter
June 2, 2008 - 5:06 pm
Christopher Reina/RealGM -
An article today on how the Celtics defend Kobe Bryant by ESPN's Henry Abbot triggered me to take a look at exactly how well the Lakers do when Kobe is a high volume shooter.

During their two regular season meetings, Boston dared Kobe to be a perimeter shooter and did not allow him to penetrate into the lane.

The Spurs defended Kobe in a similar fashion during the Western Conference Finalsand kept him off the free throw line, but he played brilliant all-around basketball and shot an extremely efficient percentage from the floor.

Kobe averaged 20.6 field goal attempts during the regular season, so I looked into the Lakers' record when he shot 20 or more times versus nights when he shot 19 times or fewer.

Regular Season Results

20 Or More Field Goal Attempts: 26-18, .591

19 Or Less Field Goal Attempts: 31-7, .816

Playoff Results

20 Or More Field Goal Attempts: 6-3, .667

19 Or Less Field Goal Attempts: 6-0, 1.000

The Lakers were 38% more likely to win during the regular season when Kobe was not a high-volume shooter and their offense was more balanced, which is a staggering differential.
 
Great article but this is nothing new.

Wobe is the only player I can think of in the NBA that can single-handidly blow a game for the lakers with his disregard for team play and going for the shots to pad his stats.

In recent memory, one of the worst examples were when the lakers played Houston last year on ESPN and he jacked up 45 FGA for the loss

If the Celtics somehow get an early lead, they should close the series out quick because Wobe will regress back to his normal style of play and ruin what the team is trying to do on O.
 
If the Celtics somehow get an early lead, they should close the series out quick because Wobe will regress back to his normal style of play and ruin what the team is trying to do on O.


He shot 15-45 against the Celtics this year. If the Celtics are smart, they will try to lock those other players down and tempt Kobe to take a lot of jump shots.... when the Pistons faced the Lakers in the finals in 04', the practically begged Kobe to shoot and he took every available shot... he's matured a whole lot more this yeaar... but I think you are correct, if they can get him to revert back to his old style and abandon the triangle, it could be an ugly series for the lakers...
 
SON OF A BITCH!

plagiarizing m.f.s!

they must've visited a blog i wrote for back in april (after i spammed all the basketball boards). my blog entries didn't cover just this season though, it covered tobe's entire career and playoffs.

the same phenomenon she describes holds true for both.

lakersfiction.blogspot.com

i haven't written anything for that blog for almost 2 months, but my STANS on BGOL still visit it from time to time.
 
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had to come back and add this, after reviewing the original "article" on espn.

some of BGOLs tobe cakeboys (who obviously know little or nothing about professional basketball) frequently and stupidly pose the question that goes something like this: "cranrab, if you're so smart, why don't head coaches ever adopt your strategy of letting tobe shoot?"

the excerpt from the espn article below not only shows that enlightened head coaches DO institute that game plan, but that BGOLs downlow tobe STANS don't know enough about professional basketball to RECOGNIZE WHEN IT IS HAPPENING even when they are watching it occur.

"So, surely the Celtics must have been using their best defenders against Bryant, to get those kinds of results, right? That's the only way to slow the game's most potent offensive weapon, isn't it?

That's what I expected to see. A steady diet of James Posey. But as is often the case, the video tells a different story.

Instead, let me tell you that, in all those possessions, the Celtics almost never played great individual perimeter defense against Bryant. They only doubled him hard a handful of times, and even then mostly for shock value late in games. They went under nearly all picks, or simply got stuck on them. Even the weakest screen was more than enough to force a switch or get Bryant wide open.

Bryant's most common defender by far was Ray Allen who -- I'm telling you -- simply can not stay with Bryant. Oh, yes, he tried. And as you can see, in the photo, sometimes he managed to be in the neighborhood when Bryant got the shot off. But this was far from textbook one-on-one defense.

Yes, Tony Allen guarded Bryant some, when Ray Allen was out of the game.

When Ray Allen had foul trouble, Paul Pierce handled some possessions. He looks creaky on defense, and usually didn't even bother to meet Bryant until he got to the free-throw line.

Eddie House and Kendrick Perkins got their hands on Kobe solo in broken plays and scramble situations, for instance when the Lakers got offensive rebounds.

But it worked.

Through it all, most of the time, the rest of the Celtics' defense stayed in position to protect the rim and stymie the one thing Bryant can do that can kill you -- get in the lane, make easy shots, and draw fouls.

The hope, apparently, was to keep Bryant off the line, and on the perimeter. Sticking Bryant out there on the perimeter, alone against one of Boston's weakest defenders in Ray Allen (and a player who had, himself, been making Bryant look bad at the other end), was just the mother of all dares for Bryant. Triangle be damned. Bryant fired away.

This is the Jedi mind trick that Tom Thibodeau is playing on Bryant, who is a very confident long-distance shooter. You're leaving me, all alone, out here, with him?

It's not a new idea. For instance, in Jack McCallum's book Seven Seconds or Less we learn that a couple of years ago both the Sun and the Laker coaching staffs thought high-volume shooting from Bryant hurt the Lakers
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"Luckily for the Celtics, Bryant's shot was more than a little off, and he couldn't take advantage. Meanwhile, the Lakers' total offensive efficiency plummeted. A Bryant miss from deep doesn't get others open, it doesn't draw a lot of fouls, and it doesn't wear down defenders.

In the first game, in Boston, Bryant shot a very respectable three-for-six from 3-point land. But he also shot five very long two-pointers -- the least efficient shots in the game -- and only made one of those. Below the free-throw line, on the other hand, he made five of ten shots.

The second time they played each other everyone was angry. There were six technicals, and Kevin Garnett got stitches above his eye. The Lakers were also apparently cranky that, for the first half, they had to wear short shorts as part of a throwback theme.

Bryant took all that energy and put it into gunning. By my count, he took 14 shots from beyond the free-throw line and missed them all. Closer in he made six of 11.

The grand totals show that in the two games, Bryant took 46 shots, which he made into 50 points, thanks in large part to being 17-20 from the line. He had only six assists, in the two games combined, and none of his teammates really got all that hot.

From beyond the free-throw line, again by my count, he finished 4-25 over the two games, and not surprisingly, the Celtics won both games easily
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If the Celtics somehow get an early lead, they should close the series out quick because Wobe will regress back to his normal style of play and ruin what the team is trying to do on O.


He didn't do that in the Spurs series, when the Spurs had leads of 20 and 17. I think those days are over. (Hopefully) He understands what got them to this point and wont go back to his old ways. Trust in the system.
 
He shot 15-45 against the Celtics this year. If the Celtics are smart, they will try to lock those other players down and tempt Kobe to take a lot of jump shots.... when the Pistons faced the Lakers in the finals in 04', the practically begged Kobe to shoot and he took every available shot... he's matured a whole lot more this yeaar... but I think you are correct, if they can get him to revert back to his old style and abandon the triangle, it could be an ugly series for the lakers...

Posey...day and night

Posey, Posey and more Posey.

Shoot Kobe Shoot!!!
 
SON OF A BITCH!

plagiarizing m.f.s!

they must've visited a blog i wrote for back in april (after i spammed all the basketball boards). my blog entries didn't cover just this season though, it covered tobe's entire career and playoffs.

the same phenomenon she describes holds true for both.

lakersfiction.blogspot.com

i haven't written anything for that blog for almost 2 months, but my STANS on BGOL still visit it from time to time.


...seriously, are you Ray Allen?!?!?!:rolleyes:


Ray Allen shoots down any ill will for Kobe Bryant
Steve Buckley By Steve Buckley
Tuesday, June 3, 2008

Four years ago, when he was still playing for Seattle, Ray Allen made some postgame comments about Kobe Bryant that are likely to be resurrected as bulletin-board material when the Celtics [team stats] meet the Lakers in the upcoming NBA Finals.

In 2004, after LA traded Shaquille O’Neal to the Miami Heat, everyone had an opinion about the deal. That included Allen, who told Seattle sportswriters, “If Kobe doesn’t see he needs 2 good players to be a legitimate playoff contender or win a championship in about a year or two, he’ll be calling out to (Lakers owner) Jerry Buss that, ‘We need some help in here,’ or, ‘Trade me.’ And we’ll all be saying, ‘I told you so,’ when he says that.:lol::lol:

Allen added that Bryant is “going to be very selfish. And he feels like he needs to show this league and the people in this country that he is better without Shaq. He can win championships without Shaq. So offensively, he’s going to jump out and say, ‘I can average 30 points. I can still carry the load on this team.’ ”

The Celtics guard, however, was in no mood to take a stroll down Memory Lane yesterday. He said those comments are four years old now, and that the only time the topic comes up is when members of the media drop it at his feet.

“You (media) make it more than what it is, but we’re in 2008,” he said. “So it’s a nonissue now. You can talk about it, but now you’re making a big deal about it because you’re asking.

“I didn’t have to say anything more about it. At the time, when I’m playing in the Western Conference, we just finished playing them in the preseason. Obviously, it’s a team that you see regularly, you have more of a feel for them. It was that at the time.

“We’re in a different part of our careers and our lives right now. I have to take care of what’s going on with my Celtics team, and that’s all I concern myself with.”

Ask him about covering Bryant, though, and Allen will be more than happy to take you to the blackboard and tell you what you need to know.

“I know he likes to dig on the ball,” he said, “so just keep me moving off the ball and put him in pick-and-rolls, put him pin-downs, so he’s constantly moving, so he definitely has to work.

“I just think you have to keep him working on both ends. You can’t allow him to have anything easy. Any scouting report that I give or anyone gives is going to sound fairly easy, but when you’re out there you have to make sure that you keep him guessing. Don’t allow his feet to get planted in the defensive end.

“Offensively, you have to keep a swarm around him . . . but it’s important we don’t allow one part of the game to break down another part of the game.”
 
Fool, Kobe can beat the celtics by himself. Fuck he need a team foe. :smh::smh:


j/k

Anyway, you're beating a dead horse. There have been very few games this playoff season (I can think of 1) where he jacked it with abandon. Matter of fact, only 1. That job he did in Utah. :angry::angry:

Anyway, cuzz isn't going to lose this. If it means hiring a ninja to take out Garnett, trust me, Jack Bower is getting it done. :lol:
 
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Why did they even ask Ray Allen about playing defense. We all remember the job he did on Joe Johnson. "DAMN RAY!!".
 
SON OF A BITCH!

plagiarizing m.f.s!

they must've visited a blog i wrote for back in april (after i spammed all the basketball boards). my blog entries didn't cover just this season though, it covered tobe's entire career and playoffs.

the same phenomenon she describes holds true for both.

lakersfiction.blogspot.com

i haven't written anything for that blog for almost 2 months, but my STANS on BGOL still visit it from time to time.

And to think they said you were hatin
 
Fool, Kobe can beat the celtics by himself. Fuck he need a team foe.


j/k

i would love to see 2008 become a 2004 replay of his finals shooting volume.

the odd thing is that people keep saying coach popovich's defensive strategy didn't work. easy to understand the argument, considering the empirical data (shooting percentage, points scored). but the spurs lost due to a lack of O, not D.

weren't the spurs positioned well in most of the games they eventually lost? it certainly wasn't the D game plan that lost it for the spurs. it was a lack of productivity and brainless TOs from the 2 argentinians.
 
And to think they said you were hatin

the funniest thing is that i could see their point IF i was taking a skewed sample of data. if i hand-picked games that favored a hypothesis. but the simple fact is that the data has ALWAYS supported my conclusions from DAY ONE.

i could tell simply by watching tobe's play, and the statistics repeatedly back up the conclusions.

it's easier for those who don't understand basketball to intellectually cop-out and say "cranrab's hating" because they have no FACTUAL basis to stand upon.
 
He didn't do that in the Spurs series, when the Spurs had leads of 20 and 17. I think those days are over. (Hopefully) He understands what got them to this point and wont go back to his old ways. Trust in the system.

I wasn't talking about about that. I was talking about down in the series.

If the Celtics get up 2-0, or 3-1, you best believe you're going to see 50 FGA game go up. Just like in 2002 against the Celtics when Wobe put on one of the most pathetic displays of basketball I've ever seen. :smh:
 
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The hope, apparently, was to keep Bryant off the line, and on the perimeter. Sticking Bryant out there on the perimeter, alone against one of Boston's weakest defenders in Ray Allen (and a player who had, himself, been making Bryant look bad at the other end), was just the mother of all dares for Bryant. Triangle be damned. Bryant fired away.
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:lol::lol::lol:

Either way I can't wait to see how Phony Bryant acts if the Lakers are down by more than 10 against the Celtics...

This is some fucked up shit...as a kid in the 80's, I was pulling for the Lakers...Now here in 2008 I'm rootin for the Celtics... :smh:

<--- bandwagon jumper :D
 
ive always been a laker and i will always be one
some people have this thing called loyalty and HONOR
some dont
some are born lakers
and some are just born
 
:lol::lol::lol:

Either way I can't wait to see how Phony Bryant acts if the Lakers are down by more than 10 against the Celtics...

This is some fucked up shit...as a kid in the 80's, I was pulling for the Lakers...Now here in 2008 I'm rootin for the Celtics... :smh:

<--- bandwagon jumper :D

As I said, I expect the C's to win Game one. The Lakers will make the adjustment for Game 2. Expect to hear Phil Jackson work the officials during the post game press conference and David Stern and his gestapo with fuck up the flow of Game 2.
 
Looks like the Celtics (notably Garnett and Allen) are off to a good start...

Phony has already started to take jump shots.... :smh:

You might be right, Rollie...The Celts may get this first one
 
Lakers Got Away From What Had Been Working
By J.A. Adande | ESPN.com

By J.A. Adande
ESPN.com

Updated: June 6, 2008

When his team needed less MJ and more Magic near the end, Kobe Bryant's passing decreased.

BOSTON -- Looks like the biggest question about the Los Angeles Lakers is the only one that wasn't asked before the series: What if Kobe Bryant has a hard time scoring?

More ominously for them: What if this is the continuation of a trend of bad Finals performances?

He has delivered virtuoso performances on this stage before, beginning with his first trip to the Finals. In 2000 he scored eight points in overtime to snatch Game 4 from the Indiana Pacers. It was the start of the legend, when he went from phenom to phenomenal. As Sam Cassell said the other day, "That's when he became KB8."

Of course, now he's KB24. And he has the accolades (not to mention the MVP trophy) that come with being the most accomplished player in the league.

But the last time Bryant played in June, he shot 38 percent during the Lakers' five-game loss to the Detroit Pistons in 2004. It was an ugly and ill-fated attempt to prove he could be the No. 1 guy and wrest control of the team from Shaquille O'Neal.

Now even more so, he's the focal point of the defense rather than a dangerous weapon alongside Shaq. Once again we're seeing what happens when the league's best defense locks in on the league's best player, especially when that player is oriented on the perimeter. The defense wins.

"They're not going to give him much of an opportunity to break down their defense off of dribble penetration," Lakers guard Derek Fisher said. "So he's going to end up in a situation where he's taking more catch-and-shoot opportunities when he's coming off of cuts and coming off of screens and catching and shooting the basketball. That's something he's going to get used to as the series goes on. He's so great at breaking down defenses off the dribble. The Celtics' defense just doesn't allow that type of play."

Bryant's shot chart showed only two attempts in the paint in his 24-point night. He made one, missed one -- a much better percentage than overall, when he made about one of every three shots he put up. In fact, his 9-for-26 performance in the Finals opener, a 98-88 loss to Boston, continued the woeful shooting against the Celtics in the two regular-season games and leaves him at exactly 33 percent against Boston this year (24-for-72). For Boston's defense, that's even better than the 35 percent shooting they extracted from LeBron James during seven games in the Eastern Conference semifinals.

Bryant and coach Phil Jackson said the problem wasn't the quality of his shots.

"I had some great looks," Bryant said. "They just didn't stay down. I'll just have to pile it in with the other bad shooting games I've had and flush it and come back Game 2 and hopefully I get the same looks."

As one Laker said, he had good looks … but he had chances to pass, too. As the game went on, L.A.'s offense became increasingly stagnant and Bryant tried to do it by himself.

None of Bryant's six assists came in the fourth quarter, when he made only 1 of 6 shots. He's supposed to bring the Lakers home down the stretch; instead, he matched the fourth-quarter shooting of notorious late-game disappearing act Kevin Garnett miss-for-miss. Garnett called his fourth quarter "terrible," which means the same must be said of Bryant's.

But Garnett, thanks to some timely rebounds, his intimidation of Pau Gasol and most of all the heroics of Paul Pierce, is now one victory closer to the championship, one victory closer to removing all asterisks, ellipses and "buts" from his career. Meanwhile, Bryant's rise has been so great this season that we have to be reminded that he hasn't won a championship without Shaq yet, that he's still only halfway to Jordan's collection of six rings.

For the multitudes who picked the Lakers to win the series, the thinking was that Bryant's ability, particularly in the clutch, mattered more than the collective ability of Boston's big three. After all, he was able to overcome San Antonio's top trio. But maybe the collective hunger of this Boston group is greater. If Bryant isn't able to get easy shots, maybe he'll need to sacrifice a little more.

At one point, early in the third quarter, he pulled off a shake-and-fall away jumper that came straight from the Michael Jordan handbook. But Bryant and the Lakers would be better served right now if he played like Magic Johnson.

The 1984 Finals were one of the most traumatic experiences of my adolescence in Los Angeles, but I allowed myself to watch just enough of the replays on ESPN Classic Thursday to see how the Lakers pushed the ball up the court at every opportunity back then. Then I watched in person as the 2008 Lakers scored exactly two fast-break points Thursday.

So there weren't easy baskets to get the rest of the Lakers going, and none to boost Bryant's totals either.

Instead, he had to walk into the rotation of defenders the Celtics threw at him: Ray Allen, Pierce and James Posey. Then he had secondary defenders sliding over when he tried to penetrate. Things were going so well for the Celtics' defense that when the 108-year-old Cassell found himself guarding Bryant, Cassell was able to draw a charge.

If the Lakers can't find a faster tempo, Bryant and the Lakers will have to come up with different ways to attack Boston's half-court defense. Against San Antonio he surveyed the Spurs for two and a half quarters, then lit them up for 23 points. It didn't come together so quickly for him this time, probably leading to a sleep-deprived night of replays.

"I'll be thinking about those [missed shots] a little bit tonight," Bryant said.

"As the series goes on," his teammate Fisher said, "He'll understand where his shots are going to come from and what spots, and he'll shoot the ball I think at a higher percentage than he did tonight."

That's the expectation. Hasn't changed. But it wasn't the result in the first game. And against the Celtics and in the Finals, it isn't the trend. That hasn't changed, either.
 
That sound you're hearing is Kobe Bryant getting thrown under the bus by the media..


0, 1, 2, 4, 5 ... Where's the 3?
By John Hollinger
ESPN.com

BOSTON -- Wednesday, all of us experts at ESPN.com were asked for our keys to the series. Thursday before Game 1, I went to one of my spies in Boston and posed the same question.

For the Lakers, his answer was the 3-pointer. Sure enough, Boston's ability to take it away was a key to the Celtics' 98-88 victory in Game 1.

Since acquiring Pau Gasol, L.A. averaged 9-plus made 3-pointers per game, shooting at a 38.6 percent clip. But that weapon was largely missing in Game 1, as L.A. made only three triples. And it was no secret why -- the drives and kicks that set up the trifectas for the Lakers weren't there.

"That's because the ball didn't move," said Lamar Odom. "We didn't execute. When they took away something we didn't counteract with our automatics."

Other Lakers joined the chorus blaming ball movement, or the lack thereof, especially during the 37-point second half in which L.A. made only one triple. They rarely got attempts, even, until a few desperate hoists in the final minute -- L.A. had only 14 tries on the night after averaging 23 in the post-Gasol trade part of the season.

"We've just got to play smarter," said Sasha Vujacic. "They played good, their rotation was there at all times, [but] we've just to do a better job of swinging the ball. After one swing we stopped swinging it. If we had stayed with it a little more, with patience and more focus at the offensive end, we'd [have been] OK."

In taking away the 3, it appears the Celtics borrowed a page from the Spurs' playbook in the conference finals. Though San Antonio fell in five games, it was able to frustrate L.A. at several points by making Kobe Bryant a jump shooter and denying the kick outs to the wings for easy triples for the likes of Vujacic, Derek Fisher and Vladimir Radmanovic.

^^EDIT-Aww..come ON..this is blatant plagiarism by ESPN. I think you better contact your lawyers, cranrab.^^

But while the Lakers credited Boston's tough D, it was their own inability to better punish the Celtics' help defense that left them puzzled.

"They can't stop you from passing," Odom said.
 
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In taking away the 3, it appears the Celtics borrowed a page from the Spurs' playbook in the conference finals. Though San Antonio fell in five games, it was able to frustrate L.A. at several points by making Kobe Bryant a jump shooter and denying the kick outs to the wings for easy triples for the likes of Vujacic, Derek Fisher and Vladimir Radmanovic.

^^EDIT-Aww..come ON..this is blatant plagiarism by ESPN. I think you better contact your lawyers, cranrab.^^

:D

99 times out of 100 i say that in jest. but it's not that unlikely that more than 1 columnist reads my stuff.

over the years, i've corresponded by email with writers at newspapers and online columnists across the country. one of the first people to respond to my now in/famous blog is the same dude that writes the "race to the MVP" column on nba.com.

BTW, the absolute BEST coverage of the fakers by ANY southern california newspaper is FAR AND AWAY the riverside press enterprise. their beat guy has more trusted "ins" within the fakers organization than any other paper, so he has better "gets".
 
The Lakers are subetly saying "if Kobe continues to trust us and pass the rock to the open man, we can win".. if Kobe doesn't swing the ball to the open man, we'll lose.."
 
As I said, I expect the C's to win Game one. The Lakers will make the adjustment for Game 2. Expect to hear Phil Jackson work the officials during the post game press conference and David Stern and his gestapo with fuck up the flow of Game 2.


Rollie has been right on!!!

I expect the Lakers to start getting the calls in LA

Too much money on the Lakers for them to win

Celts win...house money
 
the funniest thing is that i could see their point IF i was taking a skewed sample of data. if i hand-picked games that favored a hypothesis. but the simple fact is that the data has ALWAYS supported my conclusions from DAY ONE.

i could tell simply by watching tobe's play, and the statistics repeatedly back up the conclusions.

it's easier for those who don't understand basketball to intellectually cop-out and say "cranrab's hating" because they have no FACTUAL basis to stand upon.


Young people have to be right

They are not secure enough in their person to accept they may be incorrect.
 
At one point, early in the third quarter, he pulled off a shake-and-fall away jumper that came straight from the Michael Jordan handbook. But Bryant and the Lakers would be better served right now if he played like Magic Johnson.

But the problem with Phony (and the Lakers is that he is not and NEVER will be even close to Magic. It's in his "supposed" IQ to be the man to take all the shots, regardless if he's shootin bricks or not.

If the Lakers ran the offense through Fisher then they'd probably be better off...Since Phony loves to go away from what WORKS and has worked ever since Gasol joined the team...
 
But the problem with Phony (and the Lakers is that he is not and NEVER will be even close to Magic. It's in his "supposed" IQ to be the man to take all the shots, regardless if he's shootin bricks or not.

there's no need for any person to sugarcoat it. the sports shills are too shook to write the honest truth. tobe fans (NOT basketball fans) will always have an endless supply of stupefying excuses by the boatload.

last few seasons it was william parker's fault. he couldn't be trusted :rolleyes:. so the fakers sign rock steady world champion derek fisher. can't use that as an excuse.

last few seasons it was kwame brown's fault. he couldn't be trusted :rolleyes:. so the fakers trade for former all star pau gasol. can't use that as an excuse.

last few seasons tobe couldn't trust his teammates, so he HAD TO shoot a lot :rolleyes:. so last night ALL the fakers starters NOT named tobe shot 50% or better, but the euro chucker took the lion share of the FGAs.

endless idiotic fucking excuses from people who don't know squat about basketball.

If the Lakers ran the offense through Fisher then they'd probably be better off

the only triangle that is critical to the fakers is the one that is formed by derek fisher/lamar odom/pau gasol. put tobe on the weak side as a pressure release (off skip passes and ball reversals) to hit the deep ball.

if tobe touches the ball, it better be a high s/r or an INTENTIONAL iso.
 
the only triangle that is critical to the fakers is the one that is formed by derek fisher/lamar odom/pau gasol. put tobe on the weak side as a pressure release (off skip passes and ball reversals) to hit the deep ball.

if tobe touches the ball, it better be a high s/r or an INTENTIONAL iso.

Funny how when the triangle is run through Kobe it resembles that stagnant box and one that got Cleveland bounced from the playoffs..but I heard there were different variations of it, so what do I know? :rolleyes:
 
the only triangle that is critical to the fakers is the one that is formed by derek fisher/lamar odom/pau gasol. put tobe on the weak side as a pressure release (off skip passes and ball reversals) to hit the deep ball.

if tobe touches the ball, it better be a high s/r or an INTENTIONAL iso.

exactly.

And I'm sick and tired of many media outlets "protecting" players from their faults by covering it with their supposed exceptional abilities...

I bet if the Lakers lose this series (which I'm counting on), only one out of many writers will call out Kobe if he is a no-show the rest of the series...Just like the media protects the over-blown Canadian...
 
exactly.

And I'm sick and tired of many media outlets "protecting" players from their faults by covering it with their supposed exceptional abilities...

I bet if the Lakers lose this series (which I'm counting on), only one out of many writers will call out Kobe if he is a no-show the rest of the series...Just like the media protects the over-blown Canadian...


Nah, Kobe is good for ONE 40+ game per series. They will hype that up.

Lamar Odom will be the scapegoat for this series. Mark my words..
 
Wow. They're really going at Kobe in the media:

The Hidden Effect of Paul Pierce's Dramatic Comeback

Kobe Bryant is a weird dude. We all know this. For most of his career, he has been too contrived to fully realize his abilities - too conscious of how he is perceived and too eager to prove people wrong. When he's criticized for shooting too much, he refuses to shoot. The opposite is true when he's nailed for being too passive. I've never been a big fan, but even I'll admit that there were times when he couldn't win.

But then again, he proved during the second half of this season that he has had the ability to play authentic ball within him all along. From the time the Lakers acquired Pau Gasol to the time they vanquished the Spurs, you didn't hear a negative word about Bryant's decision-making. The last three months have been a coronation, capped off with the top seed, the MVP, a dominant run through the Western Conference, and a spot in the NBA Finals.

Then ... bam. He gets to the Finals and seemingly reverts back to the old Kobe. The one who seems to formulate a plan during timeouts, that often completely ignores how the defense is playing him, and appears to decide what course of action to take long before he gets the ball. The fourth quarter saw him jacking up terrible shots, dribbling out the shot clock while facing big deficits, and generally trying to single-handedly beat triple-teams despite having Pau Gasol on his roster. It was bizarre.

The question is: what brought this on? I suppose it was just the bright lights of the Finals that scrambled his brain waves. Or maybe he was frustrated by the Boston defense that is clearly geared to turn him into a contested jump shooter. Maybe it was that old flash of Kobe anger when a teammate seems to be playing in quicksand (paging Luke Walton). Those are all valid theories. (I should add here that another valid theory is that Kobe didn't actually "revert back" at all, but simply didn't have much energy tonight. I noticed on several occasions that he just didn't seem to be playing with much emotion.)

I have another theory and I'll admit that it's not the most flattering - I think Kobe Bryant was jealous of Paul Pierce.:lol:

Look, even though Bryant was struggling through the first 29 minutes of the game, it was largely due to his jumper not falling. He was getting good looks in the flow of the offense and I don't think anyone could complain that he was forcing things one way or the other. In fact, just before Pierce went down like a sack of potatoes, Kobe had thrown down a ridiculous alley-oop where he hung in the air long enough to fetch a late pass from Derek Fisher.

[Update - he also had his finest play of the game at the 8:10 mark of the third quarter, when he knifed into the lane, drew a double, and lobbed up a beautiful pass to Gasol.]

But when Pierce proceeded to live out Kobe Bryant's dream scenario - suffering a legitimately scary injury, being carried to the locker room, courageously (or over-dramatically, depending on which team you are rooting for) returning to the court to a standing ovation, and then burying consecutive monster threes - Bryant just couldn't take it.

You see, there is only one thing that Bryant has always seemed to want more than rings - and that is glory. It's why he milked that ankle injury and Shaq foul-out against the Pacers back in the day and why he had the appetite to score 81 in a game. This guy wants to be remembered and worshiped the way Jordan was. Going into these finals, he has been compared favorably (and inappropriately, I might add) to MJ himself, and I think it all went to Kobe's head. He stepped on the floor tonight assuming that he would have a patented Jordan Finals game, and even when he got off to the sluggish start, he didn't mind, because that just fit into the "he gets his teammates going and only then takes over the game!" script.

But Paul Pierce just had to steal his thunder. Pierce already had a "legendary" game in these playoffs when he outdueled LeBron James in Game Seven of the Eastern Conference semis. And there has been a lot of hype about Pierce being the hardest guy for the Lakers to guard and a former L.A. kid and the longest tenured Celtics and the straw that stirs the drink and a whole lot of other things that probably had to irk Kobe just a little bit. I mean, if I was Kobe I would probably have a "Paul Pierce? Are you kidding me that he's getting similar pub?" approach to things as well.

The problem is that when you elevate glory to the top spot on your list of priorities, it can cloud the objective. Pierce had his day in the sun, his "one shining moment" ... and Kobe flipped out. For the rest of the game, he overplayed people on defense and put himself out of position. He took bad, contested shots - often with no rebounding. He held the ball and let the shot clock wind down. In short, he did all the "Bad Bryant" things that we thought were history.

If that game is in L.A., the Lakers win. If Paul Pierce stays in the locker room, the Lakers win (that one is pretty obvious, I imagine). If Pierce never gets hurt at all, the Lakers win. I'm absolutely convinced of that.

Because if anything had been different tonight, Piece wouldn't have become an instant hero, Kobe's glory-meter wouldn't have gone into the red, and he would have calmly and coolly executed Boston just like he did the Spurs.

But, it wasn't different. And now the Lakers have a new, old fear to contend with.
 
Wow. They're really going at Kobe in the media

i (partially) can't figure out why.

the main reason, i'd suppose, is because they need something to write about. something with a little edge to help sell papers, and more importantly, help sell viewership for sunday's G2.

but a lesser reason might be because they feel betrayed. after all, these writers are the same "professional journalists" who cast votes for tobe as MVP. if tobe proves them all to be fools by playing his typical brand of basketball, they get to walk around for a whole year with egg on their collective faces.

TR is right. there's no need for over-reaction over 1 game.

let's see if lamar odom and derek fisher can better ration the euro chucker's shots in G2. then the fakers might be able to steal 1 in boston.
 
i (partially) can't figure out why.

the main reason, i'd suppose, is because they need something to write about. something with a little edge to help sell papers, and more importantly, help sell viewership for sunday's G2.

but a lesser reason might be because they feel betrayed. after all, these writers are the same "professional journalists" who cast votes for tobe as MVP. if tobe proves them all to be fools by playing his typical brand of basketball, they get to walk around for a whole year with egg on their collective faces.

TR is right. there's no need for over-reaction over 1 game.

let's see if lamar odom and derek fisher can better ration the euro chucker's shots in G2. then the fakers might be able to steal 1 in boston.

As I said before, the Lakers can steal this game, but if this series is lost, the scapegoat will be Lamar Odom.

But I fully expect Boston to steal one in L.A.
 
wow.

tobe "fouls out" of Q1 with 2 minutes left and the fakers INCREASE their lead?

what a coincidence!
 
wow.

pau gasol and lamar odom go to the bench to start Q2 and the fakers lose their lead?

what a coincidence!
 
Not looking for the Lakers right now. I know a series can change once a team gets back on their home court, but this is not looking good. Kobe hasn't managed to put together a a good quarter against the Celtics this entire season in two regular season games and 1 and a half playoff games... offensively or defensively..
 
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