...paging Cranrab...(Part 2)
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they're over there losing their minds...i need to hand out come kleenex over there...
i saw 1 stan blame shit on lamar odom, who is 5-11 with 8 rebounds.
meanwhile, tobe is leading the fakers in TOs.
the great thing is that while kevin garnett was struggling early, he was still contributing in other areas (unlike some other lesser players) with 14 rebounds.
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WEeeeelllll, well well well well welly welly well....
Let's begin with the obvious: The genius that thought it was a good idea to run the triangle through Pau Gasol is about to lose his job. This is supposed to be Pau getting aggressive. Guess what? He had his average and turned the ball over A LOT. The triangle SHOULD be run through Odom, but Phil has lost all confidence in him.
Let me learn you youngins on how you beat the triangle:
- You need a team that plays aggressive man defense, which the Celtics did.
- You need to disrupt the SPACING on the floor. The triangle works by having players spaced 15 feet apart. By the "second coming of Jordan, Wilt, Dr. J, etc." dribbles the air out of the ball and into double teams it fucks up the spacing on the floor in the 3rd-4th quarters. That is why they lost Game 1.
- You have to disrupt the TIMING. By running the triangle through Gasol, you are forcing him to think. That is not his strong point. There is a reason why Euros do well in simple offensive schemes like the Princeton offense. You saw the turnovers piled up when the Euros controlled the ball.
(Right now, Phil Jackson is working the officials on the podium after the game.
)They are making WAY too big of a deal about the Celtics losing the lead. That can be corrected. But like I said, the Lakers could have stolen this Game, and they didn't.
I expect the Lakers to win Game 4..the C's to win Game 5 and the Lakers to win Game 6 with Kobe having a BIG Game.
I always say the same thing
Every player will have a night when his shot isn't falling.
It's what else they do, rebounds, assists, loose balls.
Where is Kobe's DEFENSE??????
I'll be on inside hoops to see what the Kobe apologists are saying.
So far the BGOL Kobe lovers are blaming the refs.
Notice the Laker fans said nothing when kobe set Laker records for free throws in previous series.
It's never Kobes fault.
It's Shaq's fault that he raped a white cick.
It's his teammates fault he shoots too much.
NOw it's Odoms fault for not getting the rebound after Kobe misses.
I'm about to start a thread that's going to infuriate the Kobe stans....
I saw it...
LMAO!!!!!
You have been pretty right so far(assuming you have the numbers mixed up a little).
The Lakers better win game 3 or they will have a problem.
Kobe will be trashing his teammates soon enough behind the scenes and kill morale.
He probably took back the watches he gave them.
My fault, I meant 3,4, and 5..Officiating will win one of those games for them
The Lakers will NOT get all 2 of these games. As a matter of fact, I have more faith in them getting game 6 in Boston than all 3 in LA.
Lamar Odom is the key. Run the triangle through him and they win. But Phil doesn't trust him and Kobe wouldn't want him getting that many touches.
That being said, another area where the triangle hurts the Lakers is that he has young athletic players that aren't getting properly used. Phil has actually shortened his rotation. That being said, you need a DOMINANT post player to effectively run the triangle. Cranrab touched on this when he spoke of Jordan, and of course there is Shaq. Gasol is not that dude.
RF,
you don't NEED a DOMINANT post player. just a solid one. because the triangle makes you look better on O than you actually are.
i've posted this throughput chart many times:
average player + triangle = good results
good player + triangle = great results
michael jordan/shaquille o'neal + triangle = threepeats
you don't NEED a DOMINANT post player. just a solid one. because the triangle makes you look better on O than you actually are.
i've posted this throughput chart many times:
average player + triangle = good results
good player + triangle = great results
michael jordan/shaquille o'neal + triangle = threepeats
and don't be too hard on the euro. he's actually out there trying. the fakers length (and hustle) impressively overwhelmed both the jazz and spurs, but not so much the celtics. credit the celtics.
the fakers frontcourt combination of pau gasol and lamar odom is pretty effective on O, but like pau gasol himself said tonight "i can't control where the ball goes". wonder what he meant by that?
it's like 2004 all over again. maybe coach jackson should give tobe a book by edmund burke.
the fakers frontcourt combination of pau gasol and lamar odom is pretty effective on O, but like pau gasol himself said tonight "i can't control where the ball goes". wonder what he meant by that?
it's like 2004 all over again. maybe coach jackson should give tobe a book by edmund burke.
we know what he meant by that...the man was 8-12...gotta get him more shots...let's see what happens in game 3..
On the real!!!
Here are some of the things the Kobe fans are saying on inside hoops:
My Lakers aint lookin so hot. No excuses, no biased refs, no anything. Boston is just the better team, case closed.
Yo...When the Celts win this series, I will try my hardest to make a .gif out of one part of the game that didn't make any sense at all...and it has to do with "defense"...
I can't see the Lakers winning more than one game unless they win Game 4. I got them getting Game 3, but that's it.
I'll be looking for that thread, eewwll so I can see if you clowned any of the Lakers and/or Phony Bryant...
And the triangle offense for the Lakers would work better with Odom or Gasol...but there's one guy on the team fuckin that whole shit up...
I can't see the Lakers winning more than one game unless they win Game 4. I got them getting Game 3, but that's it.
I'll be looking for that thread, eewwll so I can see if you clowned any of the Lakers and/or Phony Bryant...
And the triangle offense for the Lakers would work better with Odom or Gasol...but there's one guy on the team fuckin that whole shit up...
Here are some of the things the Kobe fans are saying on inside hoops:
You can't be serious.
What is the link to that site? I'd love to read it while I'm traveling today.
Sweep.
There was one thing that really made me though. During the second qt, Turiaf got a block, clean block, after the block, their momentum carried them out of bounds and a foul was called. is this a correct call. the shot was blocked before the foul. I have seen plenty of times where a shot got blocked and foul occurred after, but no call was made. What happens after the clean block, has no effect on the player shot, because the shot was blocked already. I'm not going to blame the refs, but there were a lot of calls that really made the game hard to watch.
There was one thing that really made me though. During the second qt, Turiaf got a block, clean block, after the block, their momentum carried them out of bounds and a foul was called. is this a correct call. the shot was blocked before the foul. I have seen plenty of times where a shot got blocked and foul occurred after, but no call was made. What happens after the clean block, has no effect on the player shot, because the shot was blocked already. I'm not going to blame the refs, but there were a lot of calls that really made the game hard to watch.
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Funny thing happened between last night and this morning.
What is the link to that site? I'd love to read it while I'm traveling today.
Some of the Lakers fans got so heated by the loss they requested that only registered members view the board because it was running "slow".
Sure enough this morning I couldn't view the message boards without logging in.
www.insidehoops.com
The message board is on the links on the left.
I'll post some more gems though
coach van gundy and mike breen addressed this in length also. my answer is the same as coach van gundy's, which was:
in my day, if you CLEANLY and CLEARLY blocked the shot 1st, incidental contact AFTER the block was overlooked.
mike breen pointed out how the rule is currently written: if contact is made before the offensive player is allowed to return to a "normal basketball position", then a foul has occurred.
it goes back to current RULES being adjusted to manufacture scoring to compensate for less skilled players in this generation's NBA.
only 2 games in and it's a wrap already?
Yep. Not afraid to admit it. maybe not a sweep. 5 games. We can't rebound.
i guess Mitch needs to get Odom some more Help.
coz kobe getting TO and TO is disgusting.
coz kobe getting TO and TO is disgusting.
only 2 games in and it's a wrap already?
After seeing both games, I see the Lakers winning one game. Two may be stretching it...
Unless these first two games got high ratings...Then you know what will happen
only 2 games in and it's a wrap already?
No.
"The second coming of Wilt, Jordan, Moses Malone, etc." is due for ONE big game. He has one every series. That's one win.
The refs will give the Lakers another game..That's two.
But the Celtics WILL win one game in LA.
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