Garnett = Mashed Potatoes

Umm Yea, he did carry that team. He led them in almost every statistical category, and he won finals MVP. Dave Rob was a role player at that point in his career and Elliot barely averaged double digits that year. Avery was a "game manager" and average point guard and i wont even comment on Mario Elie as if he were a stud of some sort. Make no mistake, this was Duncans team and he led them. Again, lets stop messing with Duncan. It isnt working.

oh and i forgot about stephen jackson and he wasn't carrying them when ginobili wasn't there yet because the were getting their ass handed to them by the lakers then
 
Well, they were the 4th-seeded team, so they should've gotten into the Final Four (in a very weak Conference).

Top four in the EAST, yes. But they weren't expected to defend their Eastern conference title and go back to the NBA Finals.

It was supposed to be Detroit and Boston competing for that.
 
oh and i forgot about stephen jackson and he wasn't carrying them when ginobili wasn't there yet because the were getting their ass handed to them by the lakers then
Stephen Jackson was a role player. He contributed to a title but Duncan- the guy who won league AND finals MVP that year- carried the team. Also, the lakers winning titles doesnt negate the fact that Duncan carried his team for the past decade.

btw- can you speak louder? its getting harder to hear you from down in that deep hole you keep digging yourself.
 
but i'm not going to lie i get frustarted as hell when he passes to kendrick perkins because perkins sucks he pump fakes everytime he gets the ball and somebody comes and beat that shit. Now the pass out to a wide open ray allen was suppose to be a good play. every good team has get the ball kick out for the 3. all of a sudden nobody can shoot so passing out of a double isn't doing shit
 
Stephen Jackson was a role player. He contributed to a title but Duncan- the guy who won league AND finals MVP that year- carried the team. Also, the lakers winning titles doesnt negate the fact that Duncan carried his team for the past decade.

btw- can you speak louder? its getting harder to hear you from down in that deep hole you keep digging yourself.

oh you hear that's why you keep running to reply and like i said he wasn't carrying shit always had a great team he's a good player though. good thing parker and ginobili came when they did
 
But they are one game away from the ECF. And that is noteworthy.

That's NOT even close to going back to the Finals, as you just suggested. Judging by recent history, they have little chance of winning on Sunday.

Hell, there were doubts that they could beat the Wizards.

Well, there should've been doubts. But they were still 4th-seeded in a lousy Conference and are pretty much where they should be right now.
 
That's NOT even close to going back to the Finals, as you just suggested. Judging by recent history, they have little chance of winning on Sunday.

First I said:

Rollie_Fingaz said:
Top four in the EAST, yes. But they weren't expected to defend their Eastern conference title and go back to the NBA Finals.

Then I said:

Rollie_Fingaz said:
But they are one game away from the ECF. And that is noteworthy.

If they win this game on Sunday they get to the next next round and will defend their Eastern conference titles. If they do that, they will go back to the NBA Finals. They were not expected to do that, but they are one game away.


The Cavs were lnot listed in the Eastern Confrence picture. THey were just listed as a dangerous team because of Lebron James. His sub-par series aside, they have proven to be dangerous.
 
If they win this game on Sunday they get to the next next round and will defend their Eastern conference titles. If they do that, they will go back to the NBA Finals. They were not expected to do that, but they are one game away.

If, if and if. They're a long way from the Finals. They're still not expected to advance beyond Boston, and certainly not Detroit.

The Cavs were lnot listed in the Eastern Confrence picture. THey were just listed as a dangerous team because of Lebron James. His sub-par series aside, they have proven to be dangerous.

Only as "dangerous" as the lowly Hawks were in a Playoff season where Home teams win nearly every game. Hard to judge how good any of the Celtics' opponents really are these days, as the team is constantly imploding away from Home. If the Cavs beat them in the Garden, then there's something to talk about. Otherwise, everything is just going along according to plan in a strange season.
 
oh you hear that's why you keep running to reply and like i said he wasn't carrying shit always had a great team he's a good player though. good thing parker and ginobili came when they did
Im "running" to reply because you make it so easy to knock down your house of cards. Im also hoping you get back on track and actually address and accept KG's failures and stop trying to explain away Duncans successes. Like i said, you just keep digging yourself deeper into a hole. It makes no sense and it has gotten to the point where I have gone from laughing with you to laughing at you. You're being silly and the high amount of contradictions and backtracking on your part is just sad.
 
If, if and if. They're a long way from the Finals. They're still not expected to advance beyond Boston, and certainly not Detroit.



Only as "dangerous" as the lowly Hawks were in a Playoff season where Home teams win nearly every game. Hard to judge how good any of the Celtics' opponents really are these days, as the team is constantly imploding away from Home. If the Cavs beat them in the Garden, then there's something to talk about. Otherwise, everything is just going along according to plan in a strange season.

Your comments are just verifying what I said. They weren't supposed to get past Washington. They have done that and then some. If may be an "if" but it is still something that is worth mentioning. (especially with what they went through in the middle of the year.)
 
Im "running" to reply because you make it so easy to knock down your house of cards. Im also hoping you get back on track and actually address and accept KG's failures and stop trying to explain away Duncans successes. Like i said, you just keep digging yourself deeper into a hole. It makes no sense and it has gotten to the point where I have gone from laughing with you to laughing at you. You're being silly and the high amount of contradictions and backtracking on your part is just sad.

i'm laughing at you cuz arguing with you about basketball is like arguing with urkel about some gangsta shit
 
I don't understand the KG hate in this series. He's the only guy showing up on the whole fucking team. Talk shit about Varejo and Z if you want, but them muthafuckas been putting it down on the boards all season. This ain't as easy as ESPN would lead you to believe.
 
I don't understand the KG hate in this series. He's the only guy showing up on the whole fucking team. Talk shit about Varejo and Z if you want, but them muthafuckas been putting it down on the boards all season. This ain't as easy as ESPN would lead you to believe.

Z and is ability to hit that 20 footer is very, very useful.

Lets not forget joe smith has helped the cavs.
 
Your comments are just verifying what I said. They weren't supposed to get past Washington. They have done that and then some. If may be an "if" but it is still something that is worth mentioning. (especially with what they went through in the middle of the year.)

They were seeded HIGHER than Washington (and might've even been seeded third if James wasn't injured). It's hardly a surprise that they beat them and are exactly where they should be. (Which doesn't mean they're a particularly good team, or comparable to last year's. No doubt, if they continue on beyond Boston you'll have some reason to gloat, but not likely for long.)
 
If, if and if. They're a long way from the Finals. They're still not expected to advance beyond Boston, and certainly not Detroit.



Only as "dangerous" as the lowly Hawks were in a Playoff season where Home teams win nearly every game. Hard to judge how good any of the Celtics' opponents really are these days, as the team is constantly imploding away from Home. If the Cavs beat them in the Garden, then there's something to talk about. Otherwise, everything is just going along according to plan in a strange season.

co-sign-I am still waiting for playoffs to start. With the exception of Detroit and LA, no one has proven they can win on the road.

I am not going to sit and reiterate what everyone else is saying. I expect a tight game on Sunday but Cs will pull out another one. The Cs do not lose Game 7s at home. The only way the Cavs can beat the Cs is if LB goes for 50. Won't happen.

Boston 95
Cleveland 87
 
Garnett better show up in the second half.... this cat dissappoints me too often..1-9 and 2 points... he's grabbing boards but dude plays like a fucking 2 gaurd on offense.. :angry:
 
Garnett better show up in the second half.... this cat dissappoints me too often..1-9 and 2 points... he's grabbing boards but dude plays like a fucking 2 gaurd on offense.. :angry:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Kobe looks like he on pace to drop 40 on them
 
Garnett better show up in the second half.... this cat dissappoints me too often..1-9 and 2 points... he's grabbing boards but dude plays like a fucking 2 gaurd on offense.. :angry:
Man, i was talking to a buddy (and KG fan) Sunday night about this. After seeing his performance this postseason and him solidifying that he isnt THE go-to optoin or team MVP he has been advertised as, i have come to the conclusion that he just isnt the guy he's touted as. He isnt the Superstar clutch player the NBA paints him as. Hes a great talent, but hes simply a tall azz swingman with a great shoe deal and marketing campaign. No different from these soft azz Euro's we trash everyday. He just has darkskin and he cusses alot.
 
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Kobe looks like he on pace to drop 40 on them

I think that's a bad sign homie. Not because he's scoring..but when..typically when Kobe has big scoring first halves, the Lakers suffer as the team is typically out of sync offensively and can't get into the flow of the offense late in the game... if you notice during the season, Kobe was smarter on offense..getting team involved early and taking over when it counts... in the fourth quarter... good thing about this game is that he's getting a lot of points on the line and not taking a lot of FGAs.. when Kobe keeps his FGA to around 22 and less for the game.. there is a HUGE difference in their winning percentage
 
I think that's a bad sign homie. Not because he's scoring..but when..typically when Kobe has big scoring first halves, the Lakers suffer as the team is typically out of sync offensively and can't get into the flow of the offense late in the game... if you notice during the season, Kobe was smarter on offense..getting team involved early and taking over when it counts... in the fourth quarter... good thing about this game is that he's getting a lot of points on the line and not taking a lot of FGAs.. when Kobe keeps his FGA to around 22 and less for the game.. there is a HUGE difference in their winning percentage

True but as you can see he aint ball hogging, Vuyacith or whatever his name is looking like the x-factor right now
 
Man, i was talking to a buddy (and KG fan) Sunday night about this. After seeing his performance this postseason and him solidifying that he isnt THE go-to optoin or team MVP he has been advertised as, i have come to the conclusion that he just isnt the guy he's touted as. He isnt the Superstar clutch player the NBA paints him as. Hes a great talent, but hes simply a tall azz swingman with a great shoe deal and marketing campaign. No different from these soft azz Euro's we trash everyday. He just has darkskin and he cusses alot.

I'm telling you man.. I've defended KG over the year. I was critical about him never having the big games in the playoffs to get the Timberwolves over the hump.. but I always found way to defend him.

Your're right. He's proven that he's just not the player to take a team on his shoulder's offensively. and late in games, he defers to the point of it being questionable. It's not unselfishness... he clearly doesn't want the pressure of taking the shot in the fourth. I've seen him pass up easy shots in the fourth that he passed on..just doesn't make sense...and the fact that he continues to shoot 17 footers in the fourth when there's clearly no one in the game that can guard him one and one and stop him from getting to the rack is just plain..shit..i dont even know the words to describe it


with all being said... Boston will probably still win this game. Garnett only has 2 points and the Celtics are only down 6... the Lakers are not in tune offensively and typically when Kobe has a disproportionate amount of the points in the first half, the team doesnt do well in the second...4 shots for Gasol and 3 for fisher is not a good sign..and when these players are not an active part of the offense, they have a hard time turning it on late in games.... the important stat is assist...Kobe has 0.. they are a better team when he's feeding the ball to players and then scoring late in the game..specifically being dominant in the fourth
 
Man, i was talking to a buddy (and KG fan) Sunday night about this. After seeing his performance this postseason and him solidifying that he isnt THE go-to optoin or team MVP he has been advertised as, i have come to the conclusion that he just isnt the guy he's touted as. He isnt the Superstar clutch player the NBA paints him as. Hes a great talent, but hes simply a tall azz swingman with a great shoe deal and marketing campaign. No different from these soft azz Euro's we trash everyday. He just has darkskin and he cusses alot.
hmmm u may have a point my friend,if KG were white.damn never thought about that
 
Man, i was talking to a buddy (and KG fan) Sunday night about this. After seeing his performance this postseason and him solidifying that he isnt THE go-to optoin or team MVP he has been advertised as, i have come to the conclusion that he just isnt the guy he's touted as. He isnt the Superstar clutch player the NBA paints him as. Hes a great talent, but hes simply a tall azz swingman with a great shoe deal and marketing campaign. No different from these soft azz Euro's we trash everyday. He just has darkskin and he cusses alot.

Peace,

The NBA doesn't tout KG as clutch. He's touted as a warrior, and one of the most passionate players in the history of the game - both of which he is.

KG's "problem," if you want to identify it as such, is that he's much more Scottie Pippen than Michael Jordan. In big game moments he doesn't really transform the way he plays. Fact is, he's far more comfortable in the complimentary role than he is as the Main Man. There's no crime in that. Not every player can be Jordan, Bird, or Kobe.
 
True but as you can see he aint ball hogging, Vuyacith or whatever his name is looking like the x-factor right now

10 shots is acceptable..plus he's 6-10. But the ball isn't swinging well...not assists..Kobe touches the ball too much not to have an assists and players have been "code" complaining in the media that the ball is not swinging and they aren't getting enough shots. This is not being hypercritical of Kobe. I'm trying to illustrate what I think the Lakers need to do to win. When Kobe looks to attack the offense be a distributer in the first half.. it puts the defense on their heals and it opens up the offense for the entire "TEAM". and it works two-fold... the defense has to respect the entire Laker team in the second half, the role players are ready to contribute in the second half because they are getting looks, they also play better defense because they are being rewarded on the offensive end, and the big factor, he opens the floor up for Kobe in the second half because the defense can't cheat if they know Kobe has been feeding the ball to the open man... when the Lakers run the triangle and follow that script, they play their best ball
 
Peace,

The NBA doesn't tout KG as clutch. He's touted as a warrior, and one of the most passionate players in the history of the game - both of which he is.

KG's "problem," if you want to identify it as such, is that he's much more Scottie Pippen than Michael Jordan. In big game moments he doesn't really transform the way he plays. Fact is, he's far more comfortable in the complimentary role than he is as the Main Man. There's no crime in that. Not every player can be Jordan, Bird, or Kobe.
Not only do i disagree but i have to say that you're wrong. He is presented and hyped as a superstar, MVP, Hall of fame, All time great, franchise player- caliber individual. He is advertised as THE piece to build around with complimentary players for a championship team. He has been defended incessantly for his shortcomings and lacko fkiller instinct and the media constantly blames everyone from his past coaches to, GM's, to teammates. He just isnt THAT guy. I do however agree that he is more Pip than MJ, the problem is all these years we were told he was the opposite.

Cat's soft as baby shit.
 
Peace,

The NBA doesn't tout KG as clutch. He's touted as a warrior, and one of the most passionate players in the history of the game - both of which he is.

KG's "problem," if you want to identify it as such, is that he's much more Scottie Pippen than Michael Jordan. In big game moments he doesn't really transform the way he plays. Fact is, he's far more comfortable in the complimentary role than he is as the Main Man. There's no crime in that. Not every player can be Jordan, Bird, or Kobe.

I can agree with this but it's not the full story in my opinion

HOWEVER, what bothers me the most about Garnett is that he plays so much smaller on offense. McHale summed it up and I'll quote him again "Garnett is on the most gifted players to every play the game. He plays defense like he's 8 feet tall. The problem is that he plays offense like he's 6 foot 5."

Also man.. KG is 7 feet fucking tall... late in games, teams should be forced to defend him in the post attacking the rim. It's just smart basketball... he continues to shoot 17 footers and fadeaways and he's the tallest muthafucka on the guard with guard type ball handling ability and crazy athleticism. He should be on the block wrecking people late in games..forcing contact.. I know he's a finesse player but damn
 
I can agree with this but it's not the full story in my opinion

HOWEVER, what bothers me the most about Garnett is that he plays so much smaller on offense. McHale summed it up and I'll quote him again "Garnett is on the most gifted players to every play the game. He plays defense like he's 8 feet tall. The problem is that he plays offense like he's 6 foot 5."

Also man.. KG is 7 feet fucking tall... late in games, teams should be forced to defend him in the post attacking the rim. It's just smart basketball... he continues to shoot 17 footers and fadeaways and he's the tallest muthafucka on the guard with guard type ball handling ability and crazy athleticism. He should be on the block wrecking people late in games..forcing contact.. I know he's a finesse player but damn
This reminds me of the reports from KG's second (or maybe third) season. When he came in for offseason weighing and measuring, he had measured in at 7'1. Garnett told officials to never list him higher than 6'11 because he didnt like being a 7footer. That was more telling then i thought when i initially heard that. He's still listed at 6'11 btw.

**Dam i been trying to post this reply for dam near 40minutes. Board trippin again.**
 
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