Indeed, but KG was/is supposed to be THE superstar. THE go-to guy. He was THE prized acquisition. He has failed to deliver.all three of them fools are playing like shit.
Garnett = Mashed Potatoes
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Wally isn't making him shoot 35% in the series (and 39% in the Playoffs). He's missing open jumpers (and not shooting much at all in most games). Kinda lost out there.
He had both feet on the floor and establish position. Pierce was coming forward and initiated contact. If someone has the footage and I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit that.
Here's how the rulebook sees it:
B. Personal Foul
Section II-By Dribbler
a. A dribbler shall not (1) charge into an opponent who has established a legal guarding position or (2) attempt to dribble between two opponents, or between an opponent and a boundary, where sufficient space is not available for contact to be avoided.
b. If a dribbler has sufficient space between two opponents, or between an opponent and a boundary, to have his head and shoulders in advance of them, the responsibility for illegal contact is on the opponent.
c. If a dribbler in his progress has established a straight line path, he may not be crowded out of that path.
d. If an opponent is able to establish a legal defensive position in that path, the dribbler must avoid contact by changing his direction or ending his dribble.
e. The dribbler must be in control of his body at all times.
f. A dribbler may not legally dribble again after a personal foul has been called.
Well, the team has won 73 games and is appearing (at Home) in the Eastern Conference Semi-Finals 7th Game after winning just 24 games all of last year. I'd say he's delivered like few others ever have.
you are funny to me you the type of cat that would get killed a whole game and wait for the nigga to miss game point and try to talk shit because garnett had a stretch when he hit like 7 straight.
I agree. He's having a bad playoff run, but he still only had one good game.The other games he's just missing shots and not being aggressive enough.
he didn't have an established position and he was swiping at the ball if you think about it you never seen anybody take a charge and swipe at the ball at the same time
Again, you're making this about Duncan and you shouldnt. Who gives a fuck about KG's assist and other empty statistical bullshit. When its time to perform in the clutch he is a bitch. Period. He plays like a 6'5 two guard and shy's away from taking over games at the end. This isnt even up for debate. Its fact. He went to game 7 against the fucking Hawks and now hes in game 7against a one man team. A team that Duncan swept btw. As for Parker winning MVP last year, i guess so the entire series was a joke as they were no match for the Spurs. Parker was allowed to run circles around Damon Jones and Boobie Gibson, that doesnt negate Duncans impact on the series ( he still averaged about 23 and 12 that series) and the playoffs on a while. Nor does it effect the other 3 titles in which Duncan was MVP. Please leave Duncan out of this. KG is not on Duncans level.
you must be a lawyer because you are great at misdirection you are talkin about duncan you brought up duncan passing out of the double team and you have yet to remind me when duncan has came up so clutch like i said everytime the spurs needed clutch i remember ginobili coming up big
This is my knock on KG. He shoots alot of fadeaway and 20 foot jumpshots for a big man. And in the 4th quarter he shys away from the paint. If he was in the paint he could probably draw more fouls on the other teams big men and get easy points at the foul line. But he doesnt, so its real easy for him to dissapear in the 4th if his J stops falling.
He got to the spot first and reached to go for the steal. It's the opposite that they called that foul on KG for setting that pick in the Atlanta series. He was actually in better position than Lebron was in this case, but he was still moving when he set the pick.
Let's just agree that we saw the call differently.
i agree to an extent. it seems like when it counts,Kg just can't carry the load like a Duncan or Bron or Wade or kobe
Yea, but unfortunately a champion isnt awarded for regular season play or for most improved team.
It's not that he CAN'T, he just DOESN'T. (at least not at the end of games.) Magic pointed this out a few years ago and people complained about it. I'm wondering in this case is he deferring to Pierce or Allen too much.
wait a minute i haven't see wade carry shit
Good guess cole. But this isnt about misdirection, you were the first person to bring up duncan. I think it wa spost #14 or #15 in this thread. As for Duncan being clutch and carrying the team, again, if you have to ask about this then i just dont think you have watched Spurs basketball prior to the NO series. The guy has carried that team for a decade. Debating that fact is just silly cole.
Again, lets leave Duncan and his 4rings and 3 playoff MVP trophys alone. Please.
Yes, but as i predicted, in the clutch he choked. He missed wide open shots, atleast two which were basic layups, turned the ball over and got pushed off the blaock by Joe Smith. I made a prediction then provided the play by play as it happened. It came up small in the clutch when it was time to decide the game cole. Once the pressure was on he shrunk like a grape in the sun.
i guess what you are tryin to say is that he has been dominant like shaq. but he isn't clutch just like shaq wasn't
I hate you remedial bitches that butcher the English language.
The word is "half", not "have".
You doofus mufukka.
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=266069
I would love to defense KG. I have for years. I also can't overlook Ray Allen completely disappearing in the playoffs. However, someone who his unique talents and passion, but with the consistent inability to deliver in big games or in big moments is just fucking inexcusable. Damn...he doesnt have to deliver the title on his own.... but shit... where is the big 4 quarter to will his team to just ONE win in the playoffs...come on KG...it's not like this dude doesn't have takeover the game potential... drive to the fucking hole... your fucking a 7 foot monster that no one can guard 1 on 1... but he smalls like a fucking 2 guard sometimes..
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Yea, hes just soft. And dont confuse all his cussing and chestpounding for being hard. When its pressure time he gets missing. Also, it isnt about deferring to PP or Allen too much, when he was in Boston the excuse they used was that he didnt have anyone. Now he does have teammates yet he still doesnt take it upon himself and impose his will on the game. He just doesnt have that "It". He has all the talent in th eworld but hes missing that "It". Hes a bitch.
really? you must have forgot.
well i guess kobe must have carried the lakers when they won their 3 because when shaq was hurt and as soon as he left miami they turned into the worst team in the league and when wade played those games by himself he lost.
Im convinced you just started watching basketball last week cole. How can you talk about Tony Parker winning MVP and taking over games yet make such a terrible statement?
You're a wild boy.
How many 24-win teams have become "champions" the next year (or even gotten this close)? Seems like it's safe to say that he's had a successful year. Few Celtics fans expected the team to be contending for a title right off. Most would have been satisfied with 50-55 wins. They played so well that they built up unrealistic expectations.
BTW, the long-haul of the regular season is really more significant than the Playoffs, where any team can get hot or cold for a short stretch, leading to an upset. Anything can happen in a short series.
C/sign. I've seen KG and Duncan play each enough times to know that tend to cancel each other out. Why do people keep talking trash about KG when his teamates are a no-shows
I never hear about Ginoblii or parker disappearing during playoff games They need wake paul pierce up, and last time I checked Ray Allen still was on the back of a milk carton .
Tim Duncan isnt clutch and he doesnt carry his team???
cole256, i have come to the conclusion that you are either insane or simply hate Tim Duncan.
Magic said something interesting a few years ago. He won't be a real dominant player until he develops that patented go-to move that he use when the team needs points. Tim Duncan may have less of an arsenal, but the moves he has are MONEY. Duncan is very efficient.
wow, check the stats my dude. D wade single handedly beat the shit out of the mavs. You are aware that not only shaq left but so did Toine,Posey,Kopono.Jwill has been injured and so has wade. Wade barely played this year.Do your research.
i'm convinced that most of ya'll haven't played ball in your life. And one good year doesn't make you an all time great. Yeah they beat a soft ass dallas team i don't know how dallas even made it to the finals that year but "carry" a team? well what happened this year? and you will see what happens next year
oh i know my ball i will give you j will because it's hard to replace a pg but marion replaces toine and posey easily. i'm just sayin when he came back they wasn't winning any games what so ever. It's not carrying a team if the team is good
It's weird man. Because he's not like the classic choke artist like Webber and KG doesn't "mail it in". He plays hard the entire game.... but I think that is why I get even more frustrated with this muthafucka.... I mean..how easy would it be for him to impose his will on a defense in the 4th quarter as opposed to settling for 19 footers.. shit just makes no sense to me at all...i truly just don't fucking get it... i wish someone would interview him and ask him what the deal is..
this is the SAME shit that tracy mcgrady does.
instead of playing hardcore on the block, he's hoisting up 16-20 ft jump shots.
at the beginning of the game, yeah, ok.
but NOT in the 4th qtr of a close game. get yo ass down on the block or drive the ball to the rack. fuck a jumpshot.
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