Obama - Reparations?!

Now we get to the silly season in your post because I'll be damn if you didn't imply Obama's half white side and got reparations out your mouth to boot. Maybe I should ask if Obama was born of AA mother and father if you wouldn't still be posing the question.


There is content in my first reply, you just chose not to deal with it. But I understand. :hmm:

-VG

Oh bruh, go back and edit your own shit and rethink context and content.

I ignored it because you lateraled off into something else...a discussion solely of race as opposed to reparations and America's forgotten (or overlooked)debt.

I said half black, because that's what he is - HALF BLACK. There was no implication of his white side, nor did I bring that into the discussion in any way whatsoever.

And if I did, it would be in counter to my own statement and work against the whole discussion, because as a whole how many white people believe in reparations? They had a hard enough time swallowing integration and then equal opportunity!
 
Today's discussion, reparations.

Q: With Obama looking as if he has a high probability of being our next President, being a half black man in the highest executive office of the land, how loud do you think the cries and pressure from various black leaders, black businessmen, special interest groups, and the general public (in public and in private) will be for him to consider getting Congress to begin looking at and starting a discussion on a reparations plan to African Americans in earnest?

Feel free to talk amongst yourselves.

I thought Obama already addressed reparations:dunno:

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Oh bruh, go back and edit your own shit and rethink context and content.

I ignored it because you lateraled off into something else...a discussion solely of race as opposed to reparations and America's forgotten (or overlooked)debt.

I said half black, because that's what he is - HALF BLACK. There was no implication of his white side, nor did I bring that into the discussion in any way whatsoever.

And if I did, it would be in counter to my own statement and work against the whole discussion, because as a whole how many white people believe in reparations? They had a hard enough time swallowing integration and then equal opportunity!

So this is a discussion based his black side and I should side step the quote because of what? You were only stating the obvious that he is half black? Must be that ol guard level NAACP type rhetoric that pissed me off so easily that I have trouble ignoring it. Not your fault. I'm black like that.

I won't be editing shit. But carry on with this substitutive discussion. Such as it is.

-VG
 
only not having to pay no taxes, no college fees, and either a land grant or a one time cash payment.... but then again....
 
So this is a discussion based his black side and I should side step the quote because of what? You were only stating the obvious that he is half black? Must be that ol guard level NAACP type rhetoric that pissed me off so easily that I have trouble ignoring it. Not your fault. I'm black like that.

I won't be editing shit. But carry on with this substitutive discussion. Such as it is.

-VG


Yes, but you see - yours is the type of knee jerk reaction we always get. You think REPARATIONS = DIRECT ETHNIC CASH REPAYMENT.

When, if you open your mind to the discussion, if could mean so much more. Look at the sort of reparation packages and treatment the Native American's receive. How about the Japanese Americans after their businesses and homes were essentially seized during WW2.

So, the discussion really isn't substitutive - rather it's substantive.
 
Today's discussion, reparations.

Q: With Obama looking as if he has a high probability of being our next President, being a half black man in the highest executive office of the land, how loud do you think the cries and pressure from various black leaders, black businessmen, special interest groups, and the general public (in public and in private) will be for him to consider getting Congress to begin looking at and starting a discussion on a reparations plan to African Americans in earnest?

Feel free to talk amongst yourselves.

I predict that Obama will not come anywhere close to that topic / discussion; if he wins, he'll be a one-termer if he does. Reparations will not happen for us (hate to say it, but I don't really see that happening).
 
Yes, but you see - yours is the type of knee jerk reaction we always get. You think REPARATIONS = DIRECT ETHNIC CASH REPAYMENT.

When, if you open your mind to the discussion, if could mean so much more. Look at the sort of reparation packages and treatment the Native American's receive. How about the Japanese Americans after their businesses and homes were essentially seized during WW2.

So, the discussion really isn't substitutive - rather it's substantive.

Substantive was the word I was going for, botched it and no it is not. Not yet anyway.

My response to the question didn't include what I think reparations should be. Cash or otherwise. So I don't know why you want to swell up the post with bullshit you read by someone else. My point is that Obama is not the one to deliver on it. Whatever it is. I did mention how you believe Obama's white side should address it. Which is straight nonsense.

Let's address those reparations packages you mentioned for a minute. Native Americans. What did they get that was enough in your opinion that you could even mention them?

You do know many live in worse conditions today than we do right? I don't mean just a few, I mean a lot of em. So much for Indian reparations because that only benefited the well connected.

The Japs case was was damn near conventional in that there were victims turned live defendants directly affected by the internment. Only those defendants were paid, not all of Japan, not their descendants or every Japanese person living in the world.

So my point is it's not as simple as saying, "Obama - reparations?" And when the thoughts are not what you want, you get to embellish a brothers comments.
There is a broader context to look at and I'm open to discussion but...half white don't make this very serious and it's a serious subject.

-VG
 
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