Why do you NOT believe in the Illuminati or NWO?

[Zero]

I agree it may not be on some Matrix shit, but the end result, no matter how subtle, is just as effective! So don't be fooled!​

I'm not fooled, I know what's up, but I just don't think people are as controlled as some do. I think MANY people are fully aware of how this shit works and they choose to ignore it for a few coins and some creature comforts. To be honest, if people weren't so individualistic and selfish and actually gave a shit about their fellow man, MOST of the shit that goes down would never see the light of day, so humankind gets what humankind asks for.

Or maybe it's just that I've seen shit for what it is for a while and am just sick of trying to get other folks to see what's right in front of them.

 

[DaleMabry]

I'm not fooled, I know what's up, but I just don't think people are as controlled as some do. I think MANY people are fully aware of how this shit works and they choose to ignore it for a few coins and some creature comforts. To be honest, if people weren't so individualistic and selfish and actually gave a shit about their fellow man, MOST of the shit that goes down would never see the light of day, so humankind gets what humankind asks for.

Or maybe it's just that I've seen shit for what it is for a while and am just sick of trying to get other folks to see what's right in front of them.

yeah man this is the bottom line. People are just fuckin selfish, period.

The question is and will always be: selfish to what degree?

 

[smokedacane]

I feel you, but I don't buy into the brainwashing. People support shit like this because they feel it benefits them in some way. People are selfish and greedy. There is no need for elaborate mass manipulations when you can flash a few coins at a person and they will slit their fellow man's throat (or at least look the other way while somebody else slits it).

I understand what you're saying but most people don't have the foresight you and I do. We know that media is a form of mind control, and it is in place to control how you think and give you a distorted view of the world. I don't know how many times shortly after 9/11 and a couple years after the amount of times the word TERRORIST was used. They used key words and phrases to set people off.

One of the best methods of mind control is repetition, if you keep repeating and showing someone something over and over again they begin to believe it. Most notably this can be seen in the enslavement of our ancestors.


Also in other cases people being misinformed and believing everything that is said on the news goes hand in hand.

 

[Zero]

yeah man this is the bottom line. People are just fuckin selfish, period.

The question is and will always be: selfish to what degree?

If they started scooping up folks and hauling them off to internment camps TOMORROW, a large number of folks out there would not give a shit until somebody knocked on THEIR door. We won't loose because the Illuminati is manipulating people's minds with flouride, we'll loose because apathetic assed people won't give a shit until it's too late. If people stood TOGETHER and looked out for each other, the shit simply could not happen. They won't be lining us up at gunpoint no time soon. That's one thing I KNOW I can depend on my redneck brethren to not allow.

 

[PoppaSo]

I agree the biggest defense is Truth, so that you will know they are lying.

The way they got away with this so far is lying and DECIEVING the masses.


No RADARS picked up anything as as the flights went of trail? no satelites. No surveillance but yet they can listen to your cell phone when you turn it off.

The Clintons have a HealthCare plan that is nothing more than Smart ID for a nation.

Bill Clintion put in "BackDrop" computers chips to your computers...and porn.

They are too different parties with different means to the same end.


Keep an eye on thsm that they don't pull some more shit before the election (Bush leaving office).

Know the truth so they can't fool us again or at least smell their lies.

 

[smokedacane]

If they started scooping up folks and hauling them off to internment camps TOMORROW, a large number of folks out there would not give a shit until somebody knocked on THEIR door. We won't loose because the Illuminati is manipulating people's minds with flouride, we'll loose because apathetic assed people won't give a shit until it's too late. If people stood TOGETHER and looked out for each other, the shit simply could not happen. They won't be lining us up at gunpoint no time soon. That's one thing I KNOW I can depend on my redneck brethren to not allow.

I agree with you Zero but remember the Divide and Conquer at work here.


You have the media perpetuating a war between blacks and Latinos. You have people be weary of Muslims, when in fact there is absolutely no proof linking Osama Bin Laden to 9/11. You also have everyone in general against Immigration and angry about it when in fact Mexicans will become U.S. citizens in a matter of a couple years due to NAFTA.


But the media is creating a rift between Mexicans and Americans knowing full well immigration won't matter when the superhighway is complete.

 

[Zero]

I understand what you're saying but most people don't have the foresight you and I do. We know that media is a form of mind control, and it is in place to control how you think and give you a distorted view of the world. I don't know how many times shortly after 9/11 and a couple years after the amount of times the word TERRORIST was used. They used key words and phrases to set people off.

One of the best methods of mind control is repetition, if you keep repeating and showing someone something over and over again they begin to believe it. Most notably this can be seen in the enslavement of our ancestors.


Also in other cases people being misinformed and believing everything that is said on the news goes hand in hand.

People that believe everything they see and hear goes a lot deeper than a lot of folks think. That's why I don't put a lot of stock in folks like Alex Jones and others because they have agendas of their own from libertarian to anarchistic. Just because somebody follows a non-mainstream idea blindly doesn't mean they are more enlightened. I've been reading and studying a lot of the groups mentioned in this thread for YEARS and realize that some of these groups, like the CFR, have had their heyday come and go with the cold war and other groups have just aged because they haven't gotten fresh new membership. Still other groups like the Knights Templar have regressed into silly costumes and empty rituals and make their best showings in parades these days or the Skull and Bones and their homoerotic initiations and alcohol and drug soaked parties (the Skull and Bones don't choose leaders, they choose little rich trustfund babies as members and those trustfund baby's daddies buy their way into leadership). You want to be worried about something, be worried about these Ivy League think tanks that came up with shit like the Bush doctrine and neo-conservatism.

 

[Zero]

I agree with you Zero but remember the Divide and Conquer at work here.


You have the media perpetuating a war between blacks and Latinos. You have people be weary of Muslims, when in fact there is absolutely no proof linking Osama Bin Laden to 9/11. You also have everyone in general against Immigration and angry about it when in fact Mexicans will become U.S. citizens in a matter of a couple years due to NAFTA.


But the media is creating a rift between Mexicans and Americans knowing full well immigration won't matter when the superhighway is complete.

You know something, I know SO MANY sensible, intelligent people that don't give a shit about ANY of those divisions, but I also know a shitload of morons that can't seem to function without having someone to hate. Human nature is there to be exploited by those who have a desire to do so. Nothing we can do about that. But morons DO make good foot soldiers, so hopefully when the time comes, we can get a few on our team to do the dirty work.

 

[smokedacane]

You know something, I know SO MANY sensible, intelligent people that don't give a shit about ANY of those divisions, but I also know a shitload of morons that can't seem to function without having someone to hate. Human nature is there to be exploited by those who have a desire to do so. Nothing we can do about that. But morons DO make good foot soldiers, so hopefully when the time comes, we can get a few on our team to do the dirty work.

 

[Kubrick]

People that believe everything they see and hear goes a lot deeper than a lot of folks think. That's why I don't put a lot of stock in folks like Alex Jones and others because they have agendas of their own from libertarian to anarchistic. Just because somebody follows a non-mainstream idea blindly doesn't mean they are more enlightened. I've been reading and studying a lot of the groups mentioned in this thread for YEARS and realize that some of these groups, like the CFR, have had their heyday come and go with the cold war and other groups have just aged because they haven't gotten fresh new membership. Still other groups like the Knights Templar have regressed into silly costumes and empty rituals and make their best showings in parades these days or the Skull and Bones and their homoerotic initiations and alcohol and drug soaked parties (the Skull and Bones don't choose leaders, they choose little rich trustfund babies as members and those trustfund baby's daddies buy their way into leadership). You want to be worried about something, be worried about these Ivy League think tanks that came up with shit like the Bush doctrine and neo-conservatism.

100% Truth

 

[DaleMabry]

Dont get me wrong, we DO need to keep an eye on this shit and frankly, I was raised to read Revelation so Im up on it, but until and if or when the Last Days tick down to the Last of the Last Days, all we can do is build knowledge and independence, and maybe some back-up plans.

I aint never been a quitter and I damn sho aint bout to pick the NWO to start runnin LOL

 

[humble]

They will have cameras that will watch over any city soon enough so Big Brother will always be watching. And you will accept it because you think they know whats best for you. Because there is no concrete evidence to support these claims but when the concrete evidence gets here it will already be too late. Count your Amero's while you can.

That's so true. If anyone here lives in Philly and New York I'm sure you have noticed the police surveillance boxes attached to the light poles on Broad Street near Temple Hospital in Philly, and in NYC on 34th street. This shit is so real.

 

[PanzerBob]

100% Truth

A voice of reason in a sea of of tinfoil hats.

 

[Nok17]

If the NWO is responsible for these gay traffic light cameras that send out 1,000 tickets per hour at big intersections here in St. Louis. FUCK THEM

 

[Scarecrow]

That is what you have to do. Like it was mentioned in The Matrix, many of those who were still in the Matrix couldn't be removed because they were so ingrained into the system. Only way they could escape the false reality was upon their own accord and diligence.

You can't make everyone open their eyes.

Exactly

 

[Scarecrow]

Somebody should upload those David Icke videos I had like a 4 part documentary that breaks everything down for you. Explains the connection with bush and blair and all that it was pretty good. It talked about the skull and bones, illuminati and all these other organizations.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

what about global warming?

 

[smokedacane]

what about global warming?

and what about those vids I sent you , I have yet to hear any response letting me know that you have at least got them.

 

[master-ceo]

i believe but, really what can you do about it ?? If U dont have the funds to fight what exactly can you do ??

Thats even more purpose to fight. If you lack funds, what have you got to lose??

I'm dowm and ready for Revolution anytime.

 

[GET YOU HOT]

Into the rabbit hole you go...or not...!

 

[shaddyvillethug]

yes cane i got them ima watch them tomorrow since i do not have any classes.

props.

im asking is global warming a big scheme for us to change our way of life knowing there is really no global warming???

 

[LennyNero1972]

Wow this thread has really exploded since I left earlier.

 

[smokedacane]

yes cane i got them ima watch them tomorrow since i do not have any classes.

props.

im asking is global warming a big scheme for us to change our way of life knowing there is really no global warming???

Global warming is just another distraction ploy. The reason for the fluctuating temperatures is the Sun, it is heating up. It goes through cycles like this every so often. Proof of it can be seen on other planets as well. They to are also experiencing abnormally high temps too.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

what about the depletions of the ozone?

like what is really happening the gov is tellin us is happeening.

and is al gore apart of this Illuminati?

 

[LennyNero1972]

what about the depletions of the ozone?

like what is really happening the gov is tellin us is happeening.

and is al gore apart of this Illuminati?

He's a servant just like the rest.

 

[LennyNero1972]

You know what(I know I'm going to get clowned for this) one of the best fictional stories about the Illuminati is Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. If you sit down and really analyze that story and some of the dialog it will blow you away.

 

[DaleMabry]

Global warming is just another distraction ploy. The reason for the fluctuating temperatures is the Sun, it is heating up. It goes through cycles like this every so often. Proof of it can be seen on other planets as well. They to are also experiencing abnormally high temps too.

Have you seen An Inconvenient Truth? That was a pretty convincing argument.

Dunno if Global Warming is a distraction.

(Keep in mind this is what the Right Wing Bush Neo-Cons are arguing.)

Like 90%+ of the world's environmental scientists (if memory serves) have discredited that.

 

[smokedacane]

Have you seen An Inconvenient Truth? That was a pretty convincing argument.

Dunno if Global Warming is a distraction.

(Keep in mind this is what the Right Wing Bush Neo-Cons are arguing.)

Like 90%+ of the world's environmental scientists (if memory serves) have discredited that.

Come on now Dale


Respectable environmental scientist worldwide don't even support his theory. Doesn't that tell you something? They have scientific evidence to back up what I'm saying. The Sun is going through a cycle, it has happened in our past and it will happen again in the future.


The gas being admitted from cars is having no effect on The Earths temperature. The Earth has gone through heating and cooling periods for millions of years.



And on whether or not the Global Warming issue is a distraction or not, I can't see it any other way. We have had the technology since the early 1900s that would have completely gotten rid of relying on gasoline for Energy.


Nikola Tesla along with an assortment of inventors after him have created technology/vehicles that would have put an end to the dependence of oil. But none of them never saw the light of day because if they did, interest from an economical standpoint would of been crushed.


if you ever get a chance to watch this flick, do it

This basically outlines the methods of how the government, oil companies, and people who have millions invested in oil get rid of the notion of replacing oil with other forms of energy.




If they were so concerned about the environment, than they would of implemented technology Nikola Tesla created to replace oil over fifty years ago. They don't give a damn.

 

[FingersXG]

If you seriously don't think there are evil things going on behind the scenes...put this in your logic processors...


Remember a few weeks back someone posted a story about a "blue haze" over Charleston, WV?
http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/14367822.html

i just found this after exploring another AEP plant in Ohio.. they installed SCR's (scrubber technology) to reduce CO2 and mercury output. they had a similar 'blue haze' problem.. this is what the AEP website says..

Conversion to low-sulfur coal at one unit of our Tanners Creek Plant in Indiana was completed last year. More than 45 percent of our coal-fired power plant capacity will be equipped with SCRs and more than 48 percent will have FGDs. These actions are projected to reduce NOx emissions by 79 percent and SO2 emissions by 65 percent from 1994 levels by 2010, while generating 17 percent more electricity annually. Mercury emissions will decline an additional 55 percent from current levels by 2010.

The improvement in SO2 and NOx environmental performance at our coal plants was a trade-off. Pollution control systems consume additional energy and reduce plant efficiency per unit of electrical output. In addition, SO2 scrubbers will increase CO2 emissions as the limestone chemistry captures SO2 but releases CO2.

Installing leading-edge technology can sometimes create unexpected consequences. This occurred at AEP�s Gavin Plant, near Cheshire, Ohio, after SCR equipment was installed to reduce NOx emissions in 2002. The SCR equipment reduced the NOx emissions but also created bluish plumes (sulfur trioxide) that touched down in Cheshire and caused considerable community upset.

We took immediate steps to mitigate the blue plume and fixed the problem within months. We developed a process that we intend to use to control emissions at other power plants equipped with both FGDs and SCRs. The Gavin Plant experience was a painful and costly lesson, but resulted in a solution to prevent the same consequences at other plants. http://www.aep.com/citizenship/crreport/environmentalperformance/committedtocleanair.asp

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread329430/pg3

Now look at what happened in the town they are referring to..
http://www.cheshiretransaction.com/town/sub/cngtown.html#blue


Also remember the "syrup smell" over NYC??
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/29/nyregion/29smell.html

 

[DaleMabry]

Come on now Dale


Respectable environmental scientist worldwide don't even support his theory. Doesn't that tell you something? They have scientific evidence to back up what I'm saying. The Sun is going through a cycle, it has happened in our past and it will happen again in the future.


The gas being admitted from cars is having no effect on The Earths temperature. The Earth has gone through heating and cooling periods for millions of years.

Im gonna get back to you on this one when I can line up sources...

I know we can't afford to laugh off climate change as a distraction given the stakes.

I know we have polluted our planet more in the last century of industrialization that at any time in known history.

I know that those who argue against climate change being real are generally the same class of right-wing corporate elites that we believe support the NWO.

I know it wouldnt hurt to push for the same aims the climate change crowd pushes for anyway--reducing dependence on oil, more thoughtful consumption of goods and management of waste.

I know if we treated our individual bodies the way we collectively treat the planet, we'd die of cancer rather rapidly.

But let me get back to you on this.

 

[smokedacane]

Im gonna get back to you on this one when I can line up sources...

I know we can't afford to laugh off climate change as a distraction given the stakes.

I know we have polluted our planet more in the last century of industrialization that at any time in known history.

I know that those who argue against climate change being real are generally the same class of right-wing corporate elites that we believe support the NWO.

I know it wouldnt hurt to push for the same aims the climate change crowd pushes for anyway--reducing dependence on oil, more thoughtful consumption of goods and management of waste.

I know if we treated our individual bodies the way we collectively treat the planet, we'd die of cancer rather rapidly.

But let me get back to you on this.

check out my updated post

 

[smokedacane]

For anyone who is interested, I found the movie on Youtube.

is a 2006 documentary film that explores the birth, limited commercialization, and subsequent death of the battery electric vehicle in the United States, specifically the General Motors EV1 of the 1990s. The film explores the roles of automobile manufacturers, the oil industry, the US government, batteries, hydrogen vehicles, and consumers in limiting the development and adoption of this technology.



Who Killed The Electric Car - 1 of 9
[FLASH]http://youtube.com/v/LHsQgT-gV80&feature=related[/FLASH]

 

[shaddyvillethug]

This Thread Expanded my Brain 2 centimeters

 

[smokedacane]

Check these out Dale and Shaddy (I know you were interested in knowing more about global warming)



Global Warming or Global Governance (Part 1 of 8)
[FLASH]http://youtube.com/v/xX23n8XjQmI&feature=related[/FLASH]


If you want to watch the other parts of Global Warming or Global Governance just click the vid and the other parts will be in the related video section.








Global Warming Scam
[FLASH]http://youtube.com/v/1np7qA7IApw[/FLASH]

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

der.....bag???? my sheabuttered azz, you are a bucket and I will know you azz derty scum bucket, for posting that racist ass site talkin about the truth about black people,

well here some truth for your albino azz,

you smell like lunchmeat when it rains.

God dont like white folks because if he did, he wouldve given you enough melanin so your ass wouldnt age so fast, and to protect you from the sun... after all this is a SOLAR planet....

your european antcestors came into power not by some massive intelligent brain power, in which you want to beleive, they came into power, through, distrust, savagery, pillaging and rape.


and thats why the universe is making you and your kind extinct, you stale salami smelling cocksuckin, piece of rabid chicken shyt.....

the reason you dont want to believe your govt and the parasitic elite could never plot and kill innocent sons and daughters of savages, aka healed albinos aka pink skinned folks....

is to hard for your silly ass to fanthom, you cant handle the truth,

well I hate to tell no I dont I love to break it to you, your skin color or lack thereof, dont mean shyt, its just a tool to keep the masses divided as you think your super inferior skin on a solar planet, is some how super superior....

what a scumbucket you truly are..

fuck the lost souls on stormfront and a big timberland bootprint on your fuckin neck to you...

happy tuesday...