Africans Vs. African Americans

[dagoon121]

It would be good to unite but the only thing Africans and African-Americans have in common(generally) is skin color. Just like a black dude born & raised in the suburbs has nothing in common with the hood cat, 2 different people!!!

we have the color black in common
which is wat make us hate each other(just like they planned)
its like we africans caused the problems....u african americans is keepin it goin, instead of unity as one big group and deal wit us problem together.....it hard to explain and break it down...
but the unity could happen just somebody gotta take toll...

 

[Mr chase]

its called jealousy bruh.
he's mad that the black slave became the most powerful [economically, politically] blacks in the world... even overshadowing his forefathers whom sold us. even his birthrights and inheritances is only 0.01% of the african-americans.

Really? did u check the facts?

 

[Imhotep]

It feels like I'm smack dab in the middle. My father is from Africa and my mother is African American. This whole beef thing between Africans and African Americans is fucking ridicules. We all need to work together to build a better future.


Divide and Conquer is the name of the game.

Your too Wise.............

 

[hardick]

First off, when u understand that most of those so-called slaves were Israelites, not Africans then u will understand how the Africans had no problem with selling us off.

We are not African brotha. We are Israel. do some homework, that is what most of us who are of the dark melanin are. that is our nationality.

 

[REMINGTON_BLACK]

I love them, even if they don't love me. Because I believe that its bigger them us. We have to come together. Our skin is our link; Our real power. Because when your black, your black.

 

[Charon]

COSIGN!! ENOUGH ALREADY!!

 

[buck_ya_bitch]

I really think that it's unrealistic to expect blacks and africans to unite based on skin color alone.

co-sign
the same reason an african american doesn't have anything in common with an afro-cuban , afro-brazillian..etc
is the same reason african american wouldn't have anything in common with someone from west, central or south africa...

culture is an extremely powerful think especially for africans..

for africans, country or race means nothing
all that matters is what tribe you from
an african woman from one tribe could never marry a man from another tribe..

 

[cardi310]

I really think that it's unrealistic to expect blacks and africans to unite based on skin color alone.

If the Germans and Americans can get along after war (same color), and also the Japanese (different color) why cant the Africans and Africans in America get along (distant cousins)? There is a reason why folks dont get along, one problem is that you cant love other until you love yourself. Another, reason is the portrayal of the African blacks in America media and the American blacks in the African media. The former being poor, hungry, diseased, and ignorant and the latter being rich, wasteful, ignorant, lazy, and disrepectful.

Another problem beside the aformentioned is that in America no one wants to be at the bottom, so people try to separate themselves to inable them not to be at the bottom. By being black in america, you are inherently starting at the bottom.

Black is not synonymous with Africans in America by the way. If we talk as we are separate we will definitely be and depicted as separate. We need to start looking at each other and treating each other as brothers. I should say you'll because I already do all of this.

Divide and conquer is the best method to a kill a group of people.

Before any one reply meditate on it for a second.

 

[cardi310]

co-sign
the same reason an african american doesn't have anything in common with an afro-cuban , afro-brazillian..etc
is the same reason african american wouldn't have anything in common with someone from west, central or south africa...

culture is an extremely powerful think especially for africans..

for africans, country or race means nothing
all that matters is what tribe you from
an african woman from one tribe could never marry a man from another tribe..

I have more in common with them being in all ways (disfranchised, hated by most, worshiped in the past) oppose to white americans. Honestly, I didnt encounter whites really until I was out of college.

 

[cardi310]

I love them, even if they don't love me. Because I believe that its bigger them us. We have to come together. Our skin is our link; Our real power. Because when your black, your black.

Keep it up! people are with you...

 

[DJCandle]

I love them, even if they don't love me. Because I believe that its bigger them us. We have to come together. Our skin is our link; Our real power. Because when your black, your black.

You claim you see a bigger picture, and yet you still divide. This a mind state that lacks insight, and you probably don't even see it. Nor do the sheep that follow you.

 

[doc676]

its called jealousy bruh.
he's mad that the black slave became the most powerful [economically, politically] blacks in the world... even overshadowing his forefathers whom sold us. even his birthrights and inheritances is only 0.01% of the african-americans.

playboy is wondering how we did it.
thats why he brought his black ass over here to inspect for himself.
J-E-A-L-O-U-S-Y

true that we are the most powerful blacks in the world however we squander that power.

 

[KingTaharqa]

I love them, even if they don't love me. Because I believe that its bigger them us. We have to come together.

 

[Jaz]

This discussion/argument is ridiculous. This thread justs shows how well the plan has worked and still is working. We are the same people just from different (recent) histories! True, we all aren't going to be walking hand in hand singing hymns, but we should respect each other enough to disagree without throwing insults.

I know we aren't ignorant enough think Whites, Asians, Indians, Europeans, etc... all love each other and get along. They respect each other and put their BS aside for common goals i.e money, family, social progression. That is why they have accomplished what they have. They fight amongst themselves, but their dirty laundry isn't put on blast as it is us with us.

That difference alone is why Blacks and Women don't control more. Economically as a whole we spend on bullshit, $5000 hand bangs while she waits for the bus. Half a paycheck on a luxury car living in the hood. But when we go the bank for a loan, we either pay higher rates or get denied. This is how we, as a whole, are perceived. There are always exceptions, but I'm referring to the whole.

Respect each other, share wisdom and we will be better off as a whole.

Just my opinion, which we all are entitled to have

 

[Nevsky]

If the Germans and Americans can get along after war (same color), and also the Japanese (different color) why cant the Africans and Africans in America get along (distant cousins)? There is a reason why folks dont get along, one problem is that you cant love other until you love yourself. Another, reason is the portrayal of the African blacks in America media and the American blacks in the African media. The former being poor, hungry, diseased, and ignorant and the latter being rich, wasteful, ignorant, lazy, and disrepectful.

Another problem beside the aformentioned is that in America no one wants to be at the bottom, so people try to separate themselves to inable them not to be at the bottom. By being black in america, you are inherently starting at the bottom.

Black is not synonymous with Africans in America by the way. If we talk as we are separate we will definitely be and depicted as separate. We need to start looking at each other and treating each other as brothers. I should say you'll because I already do all of this.

Divide and conquer is the best method to a kill a group of people.

Before any one reply meditate on it for a second.

Lets get it straight. They didn't get along so much as America took over those countries. Then on top of that The USA and USSR took what they could from germany to help try and gain advances over each other. That entire region was basically on the verge of destruction up until about 15 years ago. Even today it's starting to unravel.

I'm not saying you don't have a point with what you said about blacks coming together. The black race is probably most diverse race on this planet. Relgiously,physically and culturally.
To unify all blacks on the planet would probably take almost the same amount of effort to unify all mankind. It's just not going to happen. I personally feel that blacks would be better off trying to fix their own invididual countries and in our case communities to be as good as they possibly can be.

If we talk as we are separate we will definitely be and depicted as separate.

Thats because we are. It's as simple as that.

We need to start looking at each other and treating each other as brothers.

Good luck with that.

I should say you'll because I already do all of this.

Commendable but I doubt the majority will ever do this. Or even a significant number for that matter. Which makes us no different from any other group of people in the world.

Divide and conquer is the best method to a kill a group of people

Certainly. However you make it seem like there was global unity to begin with.

 

[rph2005]

I don't even entertain that kind of talk man!! You have ignorant people on both sides of the equation saying silly and asinine things. You as an individual have to arm yourself with the truth and avoid getting into these arguments in a negative fashion.

You can't say that your for the upliftment of Black people and be anti-Continental Africans.....and Africans on the continent can't say they believe in Black upliftment or African redemption and be anti-African American.

I saw that post, but it didn't move me no kind of way because being "sold over here" is what has made me who I am......so I don't get upset over that type of talk. I'm too proud of my heritage to sweat that.

I'm also proud of my African roots, and I refuse to let anybody here or over there make me engage in Anti-African talk.

Everybody is speaking out of pain. Black people in America feel like Africans betrayed us and think their better, Africans feel like we make fun of them, etc. But its like a cycle of abuse.....somebody has to be man enough or woman enough to break that cycle.

I break the cycle by not engaging in that type of foolishness. I'll correct brothers and sisters from Africa or here in America when they start spitting out stereotypes and falsehoods, but I won't get on that F-Africans bandwagon. Its counterproductive and helps to continue the current problem of white supremacy and rule.



Young Berg

I TIP MY hat off to you young berg. i am ghanaian, born and raised in ghana but been living in the states for about 11 years now. Prior to me coming to the states, i wasn't aware of the divide that existed between black americans and africans. found out when i got here. i have heard with my own ears arguments on both sides of the line and me being the rational person that i am and always putting stuff into perspective, i gotta say, you are absolutely right. there are idiots on both sides of the equation. a lot of foolish utterances on both sides. it's all part of the strategy used by whites to divide the black race and believe it or not, even in modern times we still fail to see that.

 

[charlie dark]

First off, when u understand that most of those so-called slaves were Israelites, not Africans then u will understand how the Africans had no problem with selling us off.

We are not African brotha. We are Israel. do some homework, that is what most of us who are of the dark melanin are. that is our nationality.

Not too sure about that buddy!
But if it helps get you through the day then take them thoughts away with you!!!

 

[Bluekid]

I don't even entertain that kind of talk man!! You have ignorant people on both sides of the equation saying silly and asinine things. You as an individual have to arm yourself with the truth and avoid getting into these arguments in a negative fashion.

You can't say that your for the upliftment of Black people and be anti-Continental Africans.....and Africans on the continent can't say they believe in Black upliftment or African redemption and be anti-African American.

I saw that post, but it didn't move me no kind of way because being "sold over here" is what has made me who I am......so I don't get upset over that type of talk. I'm too proud of my heritage to sweat that.

I'm also proud of my African roots, and I refuse to let anybody here or over there make me engage in Anti-African talk.

Everybody is speaking out of pain. Black people in America feel like Africans betrayed us and think their better, Africans feel like we make fun of them, etc. But its like a cycle of abuse.....somebody has to be man enough or woman enough to break that cycle.

I break the cycle by not engaging in that type of foolishness. I'll correct brothers and sisters from Africa or here in America when they start spitting out stereotypes and falsehoods, but I won't get on that F-Africans bandwagon. Its counterproductive and helps to continue the current problem of white supremacy and rule.



Young Berg

NIGGA I THOUGHT U WAS PUERTO RICAN.

 

[HustleHardah]

Not too sure about that buddy!
But if it helps get you through the day then take them thoughts away with you!!!

http://www.hebrewisraelites.org/

 

[mr_mantel_216]

First off, when u understand that most of those so-called slaves were Israelites, not Africans then u will understand how the Africans had no problem with selling us off.

We are not African brotha. We are Israel. do some homework, that is what most of us who are of the dark melanin are. that is our nationality.

Yo, did anybody read what this dude said? Are you for real man???

And I swear all of ya'll is so sensitive. Boo hoo, the africans say (insert what they say) and boo hoo the african americans say (insert what they say)...

If only ya'll had some sense of individual self. Then you wouldnt give a FUCK what another bitch made nigga says about you... maybe ya'll should go see the wizard.

 

[charlie dark]

Brov.....I can't read all that. Can you just direct me to where it says the captured slaves of the transatlantic slave trade where Israelites please.

 

[HustleHardah]

Brov.....I can't read all that. Can you just direct me to where it says the captured slaves of the transatlantic slave trade where Israelites please.

http://www.hebrewisraelites.org/faq.htm#ARE ALL BLACK PEOPLE ISRAELITES?

This is the f&q, but to understand it fully i'd read the full site. Dude breaks it down clearly. 100


http://www.angelfire.com/ill/hebrewisrael/printpages/character.html

Characteristics of Israel

 

[Alderuhen]

Now all together
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[charlie dark]

http://www.hebrewisraelites.org/faq.htm#ARE ALL BLACK PEOPLE ISRAELITES?

This is the f&q, but to understand it fully i'd read the full site. Dude breaks it down clearly. 100


http://www.angelfire.com/ill/hebrewisrael/printpages/character.html

Characteristics of Israel

Not convinced man.
Just sounds like someone reinterpreting the scripts from the bible.
I'm not even convinced by the more 'conventional interpretations of the bible.
What I know is that by genetic analysis people from the Americas have been able to trace the ethnic groups that their ancestors came from back in Africa. Which means that some of their ancestors still live in Africa.....so the question I'm asking is why are the descendants of slaves in America, Israelites but those left in Africa are Africans?
Most of the transatlantic slaves were captured from west Africa.
Slaves captured from east Africa, which predates the Atlantic slave trade were generally taken to Asia and the Middle East.
There are also numerous ethnic groups in Africa that claim their ancestry to Israelites.
In summary there are too many holes in that 'African American descendants of Slaves are Israelites' argument to convince me.
But we can agree to disagree and still be cool and get along with each other no???
Peace my African and Non African 'black' brothers and sisters!!

 

[HustleHardah]

Not convinced man.
Just sounds like someone reinterpreting the scripts from the bible.
I'm not even convinced by the more 'conventional interpretations of the bible.
What I know is that by genetic analysis people from the Americas have been able to trace the ethnic groups that their ancestors came from back in Africa. Which means that some of their ancestors still live in Africa.....so the question I'm asking is why are the descendants of slaves in America, Israelites but those left in Africa are Africans?
Most of the transatlantic slaves were captured from west Africa.
Slaves captured from east Africa, which predates the Atlantic slave trade were generally taken to Asia and the Middle East.
There are also numerous ethnic groups in Africa that claim their ancestry to Israelites.
In summary there are too many holes in that 'African American descendants of Slaves are Israelites' argument to convince me.
But we can agree to disagree and still be cool and get along with each other no???
Peace my African and Non African 'black' brothers and sisters!!

Hebrews moved into West Africa, but were not native to. Anyways thanks for checking out the link and no matter what/who you believe you're im cool with my brotha's & sista's.100

 

[divine]

Now all together
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man that song was/is DOPE!!!

 

[dux]

Africans, Afro- caribbean, african americans afro whatever you like but here and every where else in the world we're black people.. different cultures YES but these cultures have the same roots

dont be afraid to inter-act , forget all that stereotypical bull...you'll soon realize how common our struggle is...

stay up black ppl

ONE LUV

 

[jordanm1999]

nigerians rule! u mad?

nigeria my ass. lol the most corrupted n evil country on earth. i think that dude is nigerian. them folks are stupid as hell.

 

[Bain316]

Not convinced man.
Just sounds like someone reinterpreting the scripts from the bible.
I'm not even convinced by the more 'conventional interpretations of the bible.
What I know is that by genetic analysis people from the Americas have been able to trace the ethnic groups that their ancestors came from back in Africa. Which means that some of their ancestors still live in Africa.....so the question I'm asking is why are the descendants of slaves in America, Israelites but those left in Africa are Africans?
Most of the transatlantic slaves were captured from west Africa.
Slaves captured from east Africa, which predates the Atlantic slave trade were generally taken to Asia and the Middle East.
There are also numerous ethnic groups in Africa that claim their ancestry to Israelites.
In summary there are too many holes in that 'African American descendants of Slaves are Israelites' argument to convince me.
But we can agree to disagree and still be cool and get along with each other no???
Peace my African and Non African 'black' brothers and sisters!!

You have said the greatest thing I've heard in a long time that shows the weakness of that theory.
Alot of these so called Hebrew Israelites seem to just think that African-Americans are the only israelites and therefore the africans that their ancestors are related too are not. How can this be feasible, when Oprah, Ben Carson, Judge Joe,Jamison, Chris Tucker, and etc all have relatives in Africa after using DNA testing methods developed by Dr. Shriver who is white but has an african ancestor also. These celebrities all have West African lineage: Oprah taught she was zulu but shows she was from Liberia, Quicy: Cameroon, Tucker: Angola, Carson: Bantu, Jakes: Ibo.
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060201/NEWS/602010410/1021
http://www.pbs.org/previews/africanamericanlives/

If hebrews migrated to Africa ,then that makes them Africans. The Colonizers didn't tell apart the groups. They got people they conquered or help conquer by rival tribes. If African-Americans are hebrews that makes the whole of West Africa hebrews also. They never make this argument. The only West Africa practices rituals linked to Egypt and contexts of old testament. Falasha or the Lemba never mentioned nothing about African-Americans being hebrews. They actually matched with the LEvite gene Koheni marker of the dark skin jews aka Sherpadic jews.

The africans brought to the us also have relatives in Brazil, Cuba, Colombia, Jamaica, and other Caribbean areas because families got separated. There are history documents on the amount of slaves and where they came from by the Europeans in Libaries and Museum. Majority of the slaves came from the Niger Area (Nigeria) with the Majority being the Yoruba Tribe, Hausa, Fulani, Ibos, then moved to other area of West Africa like Angola which is second Ashanti, Tuaregs, Dongons, Gobe, etc.


Aborigines of Australia, Negritos of the Asia, Natives Indians, Dalits of India could be israelites too: they were oppressed, and fit the curses of deut. All are tail of their societies.

Peace

 

[fabregas]

Another dumbass thread meant to pit blacks against each other
And y'all keep falling for it?

Co sign.. we have been throug this threads before

 

[southjerzysucks]

I said it so read Africans Vs. African Americans part 2

 

[southjerzysucks]

I said it so read Africans Vs. African Americans part 2

Where do I start....That is the first thought that came to me when I saw this thread dedicated to my comments. One thing that I did find true is that I did make my comment out of anger...Kudos to the man that picked up on that. Second I am far from any Nazi trying to cause further divide between Africans and Black Americans.
What I do want to say is that I am a great fan and long time student of sociology. That being said, any ass that went to a decent college would know that my statements were made to spark exactly what’s happening in this thread...Debate and thought to the divide between Africans and Black Americans.
I must first say I agree with dude that stated: being African and Black American are as different as Night and day.
Moreover, let me say that I come from a country where you will get your had cut off just so that the leader of your nation can sell diamonds to white Americans. Diamonds are forever and so are the memories of children. I come from a land where White Europeans have taught use to discriminate against ourselves; which has lead to countless genocides though out African….Which is a continent NOT A COUNTRY. I came from a country where teenagers fight not for street cred but for a chance to sit in a classroom.
I love listening to rappers that brag about growing hard and learning to survive on the streets. I cry to myself to every lyric as I think of running away from children with machine guns who have just ravished the next town. Or to hear horror stories of grown men crying as they watch their wives and mother get raped and then shot to death in front their eyes. Night and day indeed.
When most Africans come to America we are told that this is the land of opportunity. A land where any thing is possible if you just work hard enough. With that in Mind. When us African Booty scratcher come to American we never forget about the ones we left behind to struggle. We work hard to better ourselves through educations and community empowerment. Idea's we learned from both African and Black American leaders alike. We strive for the dream….the dream that has MLK rolling in his grave since many (Blacks and Africans alike) have taken for granted.
Africans are told; when you leave your house you can't forget only in our hands is a wallet a gun. That we are to be feared and isolated. We are one step away from being monkeys. We are not as civilized as our brothers across the pond. We are scolded not to leave our home only to return with shame.
That Shame is what's missing in Black American society. "We" do not think that when we leave our home we are representing not only ourselves but our family and our whole community. Therefore our actions are attributed to the community as a whole.
I know my words were hurtful but so were the words that I commented on. I will not retract my statement "for when a man spits he does not lick it!"
I want my words to bring further discussion which will lead to understanding and debate of our great African/ Black American divide.
Right now I am a deviant in this community and I am proud of it. I'm rocking the boat much like many others that precede me. I chose a different path.
I hope my deviance will spark a much needed along the lines of Parks, Mandela and Luther just to name a few. A wise sociologist once said that deviance is neither good nor bad. Deviance brings social awareness which will lead to social change.

 

[teeski53]

Pan African Movement

Marcus Garvey

Simple As That!

 

[leemajors]

Yall falling for that divide and conquer okey doke again?

And it wasn't even a clever set up. You could see it from a mile away and still folks took the bait. A newbie with a low post count did this.However, Im starting to question whether or not the actually bickering is between members of the respective groups in question, or just outsiders fronting in order to rile up the broad. And you know the West Indian Vs African post is coming, followed by everybodys favorite West Indian v African American.

 

[BlackMike313]

I HAte Niggas Too especially the fake ass niggas who want to be thugs. I Hate hoe ass niggas who Join gangs and hoe ass groups so they can think their tough. I Hate niggas because they are thieves, lazy, and liars. Niggas always got an excuse and always "Finna " do some shit. I hate Nappy Head hoes because they can't keep their leggs closed, They got to many kids, they talk to loud. They always begging. I hat Niggas as much if not more than I hate white people. I hate niggas more than white people hate niggas because I see niggas everyday. I sick of Weed head, Crack head Niggas, Begging at the corner store ass niggas, Can I pump yo gas niggas. I got them greens ass niggas. I used to be a Nigga to and I hated that shit.

Im a Black man now, I got love for Black people. But Niggas got two choice change they shit or die.

Niggas so lazy to be right with their shit, that they made it cool to be a Nigga so they don't have to do any extra work. I guess they feel "as Long as im a nigga, im not expected to do shit anyway"