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Bullshit. The elitest label is some right wing tomfollory. You can't be socialist and elite at the same damn time. The democratic party been the party of labor been the party of the common man. How can you be the party of the elite and be down for desegregation? What the fuck is elitest about school lunch programs.

The elitist label comes from democrats telling republicans their ideas are dumb and the republicans telling their constituents see they think you are dumb.

The history of elections in America been that. But for the Republicans. The republicans only win an election when people are mad at democrats. Obama could have won a third term if he wanted. There hasn't been a consecutive two term republican since regan. Biden would have won if he wasn't too old.

Lol how about if you a dumb motherfucker don't expect to learn quantum superposition. Orrrrr. lol you make education free and the people get smarter and they are smart enough not to be fooled by a charlatan.

I agree there is a deep problem with the democratic party but it ain't the messaging. Its the corporate money that won't allow real change

What do you call a group of people that say the majority of the people are dumb, are not to be listened to, and that they just don't have the mental capacity t understand their greatness? That the people are to be ruled and dictated to?

If people wanted to learn quantum superposition, or anything else, they carry all the answers with them. They're not interested in it, and that's fine.

if the people really wanted the socialist change you keep thinking they do, they could vote for the green party every year with no corporate money stopping them. But they don't. Democratic socialists lost all across the country except in NY.

There are a lot of people out there that don't have or want a political agenda. They just want the people in power to fix shit.

It is amazing to me the umbrage Dems take when it is suggested that maybe they listen to the people they need to vote for them and to do the things they want done.
 
If I have a low end job and drive for uber on the weekend and can't make my rent or buy school clothes for my kids, what the fuck is 25k for a mortgage going to do for me?

The people are crying out, but Dems ain't listening. It's hard out there. People are falling behind. And if I lose this job, I don't know when or if I can find another one, and you're coming to me talking about first time home buyers assistance, small business loans and tax credits? That's some let them eat cake shit.

It is not taking Mamdani 10 years to do stuff. He hasn't fixed all the problems in NYC, but dammit he's doing things that the average citizen can see and feel.
So you know the etc... meant there were OTHER policies, right?

So how are you doing with that low end job RIGHT NOW? I'm sorry if you really thought MAGA was gonna be your ticket to what a better paying job?

Honestly, lets do a deep dive on this since you brought it up. This person with this low end job. What's his job history like? A bunch of low end jobs? Sorry but no government policy is going to get him a better paying job. At what point does personal responsibility come in to better yourself? Now one thing that Dems are better at, schooling. Money for trade schools and community colleges. But again the people you're talking about just blame immigrants for taking all the jobs.

Now you brought up kids school clothes and you magically glossed over the child tax credit that I mentioned that would be beneficial for them and their kids school clothes. But again and you're kinda proving my point. Nobody reads. Please don't take that personally as I am not trying to clown you.

Mamdami running New York compared to a President running the country... I can make a 45 degree turn on electric scooter doing 45mph so the Titanic should have been able to avoid that iceberg. Okay, now I am kinda trying to clown you, but it is all in love.

We can agree to disagree, but the situation we are in right now aren't because of Democrats. Progressives and white people., this was a self-inflicted wound.
 
So you know the etc... meant there were OTHER policies, right?

So how are you doing with that low end job RIGHT NOW? I'm sorry if you really thought MAGA was gonna be your ticket to what a better paying job?

Honestly, lets do a deep dive on this since you brought it up. This person with this low end job. What's his job history like? A bunch of low end jobs? Sorry but no government policy is going to get him a better paying job. At what point does personal responsibility come in to better yourself? Now one thing that Dems are better at, schooling. Money for trade schools and community colleges. But again the people you're talking about just blame immigrants for taking all the jobs.

Now you brought up kids school clothes and you magically glossed over the child tax credit that I mentioned that would be beneficial for them and their kids school clothes. But again and you're kinda proving my point. Nobody reads. Please don't take that personally as I am not trying to clown you.

Mamdami running New York compared to a President running the country... I can make a 45 degree turn on electric scooter doing 45mph so the Titanic should have been able to avoid that iceberg. Okay, now I am kinda trying to clown you, but it is all in love.

We can agree to disagree, but the situation we are in right now aren't because of Democrats. Progressives and white people., this was a self-inflicted wound.

The person with a low end job isn't expecting a new, better job tomorrow. Announce a stimulus check to help. Also, you're proving MY point. If I have to do a bunch of research to find out our policies, you've already lost me. So this person is like what does a tax credit even mean? When will I get the money? Does that mean I'll get a little bit more on my tax return? What if I can't make it until tax time next year? Sending out a check to help with school clothes in August is something people can point to when they are asked what have Dems done for me.

And personal responsibility is straight up out of the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" Republican playbook.


But to wrap this shit up, I'll go back to where this will always end up...


Voters are dumb
We are perfect
We will not change a thing
 
Neil Degrasse Tyson starts a podcast called StarTalk.

Let's say in episode one he starts talking about 4D spacetime, gravity, velocity, and how those affect time through time dilation based off perspective. And at the beginning of that episode, he says, why should I dumb down my podcast because YOU don't know these things and didn't take the time to research them before clicking on my podcast.

You would say fuck you and your podcast.

Now let's say Tyson decides to first break down what 4D spacetime is with some simple to understand examples while adding some humor by having a comedian as a co-host and bringing on some guests to have simple conversations about spacetime to help the audience grasp the concepts.

You are far more likely to come back for episode 2. Did Tyson dumb down his podcast? 100%. But way, way, WAY more people will watch the dumbed down version and will learn at least something about spacetime than the non-dumbed down one. And if your goal was to have a successful podcast and actually help people understand physics, the second once does a much better job.

Dems are permanently stuck on option 1.

JUST READ THIS THREAD lol.
But some of what is being asked is not dumbing down rocket science.

I am a firm believer rhat the American voter is a lazy fool.

They want their own survival broken down so simple that it is more their laziness requesting soft palatable baby food than trying to become informed with more solid meals.

Their laziness about the political situation causes them to whine when they need to look something up as opposed to someone just feeding them broken down info.

And it matters....when you elect someone who immediately takes your job and cry that you didnt see it coming......You didnt look hard enough, lazy.
 
The person with a low end job isn't expecting a new, better job tomorrow. Announce a stimulus check to help. Also, you're proving MY point. If I have to do a bunch of research to find out our policies, you've already lost me. So this person is like what does a tax credit even mean? When will I get the money? Does that mean I'll get a little bit more on my tax return? What if I can't make it until tax time next year? Sending out a check to help with school clothes in August is something people can point to when they are asked what have Dems done for me.

And personal responsibility is straight up out of the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" Republican playbook.


But to wrap this shit up, I'll go back to where this will always end up...


Voters are dumb
We are perfect
We will not change a thing
So your elitist rhetoric isn't republican speech, but my personal responsibility for your vague ass hypothetical person isn't? All the while glossing over HELPING that person pull themselves up by their bootstraps! Yeah that's REAL Republican of me.

Funny everybody can do all this "research" about covid shots, but can't find policies about politicians?

Okay so WHEN are they expecting this better paying job? 4 years to clean up a mess that we didn't make apparently wasn't enough time.
 
But some of what is being asked is not dumbing down rocket science.

I am a firm believer rhat the American voter is a lazy fool.

They want their own survival broken down so simple that it is more their laziness requesting soft palatable baby food than trying to become informed with more solid meals.

Their laziness about the political situation causes them to whine when they need to look something up as opposed to someone just feeding them broken down info.

And it matters....when you elect someone who immediately takes your job and cry that you didnt see it coming......You didnt look hard enough, lazy.

Regardless, that is the electorate you have. It isn't going to change any time soon.

You have two choices:

1. Learn how to get their votes
2. Lose

It really is that simple and Dems consistently choose number 2.

I'm frustrated with the electorate too, but that does nothing. We either find a way to consistently win, or we lose every other cycle.
 
So your elitist rhetoric isn't republican speech, but my personal responsibility for your vague ass hypothetical person isn't? All the while glossing over HELPING that person pull themselves up by their bootstraps! Yeah that's REAL Republican of me.

Funny everybody can do all this "research" about covid shots, but can't find policies about politicians?

Okay so WHEN are they expecting this better paying job? 4 years to clean up a mess that we didn't make apparently wasn't enough time.

Voters are dumb
We are perfect
We will not change a thing
 
Regardless, that is the electorate you have. It isn't going to change any time soon.

You have two choices:

1. Learn how to get their votes
2. Lose

It really is that simple and Dems consistently choose number 2.

I'm frustrated with the electorate too, but that does nothing. We either find a way to consistently win, or we lose every other cycle.
Well I have to agree with this
 
Trump said Israel should finish Gaza off and pledged full support for Israel and won every single swing state and almost all districts moved to the right - including nearly every district in NYC.


Yes, that stuff matters to "Dem voters" but there aren't enough "Dem voters" to consistently win elections. I don't know why it's such a controversial take that in order to win elections you have to convince the majority of voters to vote for you.

But dems will fight to the death to just continue to talk amongst themselves and not ever lower themselves to cater to the majority of voters. Voters have stated in poll after poll after poll the economy it far away their top concern and Dems say, fuck you, Gaza lol. Or fuck you, fascism.
 
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