The Official 2025/2026 NBA Season - The New York Knicks Are The 2026 NBA CHAMPIONS!!!

Mf’s tank for half a decade and still don’t be shit lol
I’m saying. Shit how long the damn Nets been doing it? Shit. :lol: Jazz too. It get so bad they tank and eventually trade the tanking players. Tired of this shit. Fucking my props up to now the fuck I’m suppose to know when they they gonna bench and play niggas lol. Can get 30 minutes in the first 3 quarters and zero in the 4th.
 
Kneuppel was never getting ROTY... Just like Wemby not getting MVP...

We can tell when the media starts a narrative to push for engagement...

The league needs Flagg to win ROTY for that Luka bullshit...

That Bontemps poll I posted has a good track record… I bet you it will be Kneuppel.
 
They were glazing him like he was a large donut the whole game last night, how can you talk about his team is like 30 games below .500 then turn around talking about he should be rookie of the year over Kon Kneuppel. They were praying for that 50 point game and making up fake stats talking first game where a 40 year old and a teenager scored 20 points in the same game..lol
I didn't watch this game or the 50 point one ,was he still playing PG?
 
They were glazing him like he was a large donut the whole game

Interesting to me how the meaning of this expression has totally flipped.

I'm scheming like I'm dreaming on a couch with my feet up
You scream I'm lazy, you must be crazy
Thought I was a donut, you tried to glaze me
 
They were glazing him like he was a large donut the whole game last night, how can you talk about his team is like 30 games below .500 then turn around talking about he should be rookie of the year over Kon Kneuppel. They were praying for that 50 point game and making up fake stats talking first game where a 40 year old and a teenager scored 20 points in the same game..lol

Cooper Flagg is gonna get crazy love. Year 2 they will already have him ahead of Lebron :rolleyes: :lol:

It’s happening lol. Posted this in the Caitlin Clark thread last year. Next year, he’s “GOAT status”
 
Kneuppel was never getting ROTY... Just like Wemby not getting MVP...

We can tell when the media starts a narrative to push for engagement...

The league needs Flagg to win ROTY for that Luka bullshit...

That Bontemps poll I posted has a good track record… I bet you it will be Kneuppel.
There's no way they can give it to Flagg with the way Charlotte is playing and Knueppel being a key part of it. They have been trying their best to push Flagg though with all their "youngest to do this" stats they keep making up but his team record compared to Kons has to considered too
 
I didn't watch this game or the 50 point one ,was he still playing PG?
Nah they had some Kyrie Irving protege' who they were also glazing running point but mostly Dallas was playing a run and gun offense, whoever got the rebound was pushing it up the floor. I didn't watch the 50 point game either but I know they lost it but the team still gave Flagg a confetti shower... lol
 
They were glazing him like he was a large donut the whole game last night, how can you talk about his team is like 30 games below .500 then turn around talking about he should be rookie of the year over Kon Kneuppel. They were praying for that 50 point game and making up fake stats talking first game where a 40 year old and a teenager scored 20 points in the same game..lol
Cooper the real deal fuck the bullshit. We ass but it ain’t his fault. If Kyrie and Lively were healthy they’d be a much better team.
 
Nah they had some Kyrie Irving protege' who they were also glazing running point but mostly Dallas was playing a run and gun offense, whoever got the rebound was pushing it up the floor. I didn't watch the 50 point game either but I know they lost it but the team still gave Flagg a confetti shower... lol
The confetti was for losing. These days losses are good wins or bad. :lol:
 
There's no way they can give it to Flagg with the way Charlotte is playing and Knueppel being a key part of it. They have been trying their best to push Flagg though with all their "youngest to do this" stats they keep making up but his team record compared to Kons has to considered too
Charlotte in the shitty ass east and Knueppel is like the 3rd and 4th some nights they not winning solely because of him.

Some nights it’s Coby White, some it’s Lamelo, some it’s Bridges, some it’s Miller…

Knueppel was balling early on racking up points, rebounds and assists. Now guys like Lamelo, Bridges, Miller healthy and the inclusion of Coby White has hurt his stats.

Meanwhile Cooper is getting more usage and getting better. It’s not even a contest now. Knueppel decline this last month gave the race to Cooper.
 
Kneuppel was never getting ROTY... Just like Wemby not getting MVP...

We can tell when the media starts a narrative to push for engagement...

The league needs Flagg to win ROTY for that Luka bullshit...
Naw we can’t say that because they was pushing Knueppel to win. Now it’s switched to Flagg but it’s deserving. A week ago I was like give it to Knueppel he’s on a better team but Knueppel has not been balling like he was early on. He looks like a role player some nights. Flagg doesn’t have to fight nobody for usage or minutes.
 
Cooper the real deal fuck the bullshit. We ass but it ain’t his fault. If Kyrie and Lively were healthy they’d be a much better team.
Charlotte in the shitty ass east and Knueppel is like the 3rd and 4th some nights they not winning solely because of him.

Some nights it’s Coby White, some it’s Lamelo, some it’s Bridges, some it’s Miller…

Knueppel was balling early on racking up points, rebounds and assists. Now guys like Lamelo, Bridges, Miller healthy and the inclusion of Coby White has hurt his stats.

Meanwhile Cooper is getting more usage and getting better. It’s not even a contest now. Knueppel decline this last month gave the race to Cooper.
Mannnnn there's no way with a week left in the season that Flagg can or has passed Kon, even if he's the 3rd some nights and numbers down he's still doing it on a team with a winning record getting ready for the playoffs compared to Flagg putting up numbers for a team 30 games below .500 and getting ready to go on vacation
 
Interesting to me how the meaning of this expression has totally flipped.

I'm scheming like I'm dreaming on a couch with my feet up
You scream I'm lazy, you must be crazy
Thought I was a donut, you tried to glaze me
When you listen to some of these broadcast on how they focus on one player going overboard with the praise the term "glazing" fits perfectly because the player is already nice (sweet) but the extra they lay on them (glaze) is just crazy sometimes..lol
 
Mannnnn there's no way with a week left in the season that Flagg can or has passed Kon, even if he's the 3rd some nights and numbers down he's still doing it on a team with a winning record getting ready for the playoffs compared to Flagg putting up numbers for a team 30 games below .500 and getting ready to go on vacation
If they had similar stats I’d say give it to Kon but they don’t. Flagg crushed him at everything but 3pointers.


If the argument is who’s the best rookie it’s Flagg. If it’s about the rookie on the best team than give it to Dylan Harper because Spurs are better than Hornets and hell Philly is too…..that reward has never been about teams record though.
 
Can anyone top this for worst basketball take from a notable person?
Didn’t you say Oscar Robinson was ass?

:lol:

Flattered that you consider me notable! Valid take but I was talking more about well-known analysts/commentators or players.


Ironically, the discussion you referenced came from The Big Oblivious having the dumbest commentary of 2025 from a notable person, saying that all Draymond does is pass the ball to Curry and he doesn't guard anybody. :smh::smh::smh:

The Big Obsolete should be banned from discussing 21st century basketball. He claimed Draymond doesn't guard anybody and he ended up finishing third in the DPOY vote that year and everyone else in the top 5 was a decade younger than him!!! :angry::angry::angry:



Really? He didn't say that all Draymond does is pass the ball to Curry and he doesn't guard anybody?

It was some of the dumbest commentary of 2025.

The Big Overrated​

There is a strong case that Oscar Robertson is one of the most overrated players in history when considering his impact relative to his reputation. Here’s why:

1. Statistical Inflation in the 1960s​

  • The NBA of the early 1960s was a vastly different environment, with an extremely fast pace leading to inflated statistics. Teams regularly took over 100 shots per game, compared to modern teams that average around 85.
  • Robertson's famous triple-double season (30.8 PPG, 12.5 RPG, 11.4 APG) came in a league where multiple players posted absurd numbers that would be unrealistic today (e.g., Wilt Chamberlain averaging 50.4 PPG).
  • His assist numbers were also inflated by a looser definition of what constituted an assist at the time.

2. Lack of Playoff Success as the Main Guy​

  • Despite his gaudy stats, Robertson’s Cincinnati Royals teams failed to make any serious noise in the postseason.
  • In his 10 seasons with the Royals, he never led them past the conference finals.
  • The Royals had multiple Hall of Fame players (Jerry Lucas, Jack Twyman), yet they remained a mediocre team. A truly transcendent superstar should be able to elevate his team to championship contention.

3. Winning Only After Joining Kareem Abdul-Jabbar​

  • Robertson’s lone championship came in 1971 when he joined a Milwaukee Bucks team led by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, the league’s most dominant force at the time.
  • By then, Robertson’s role had diminished significantly—he was no longer the primary driver of the team’s success.
  • This suggests he was more of a complementary piece to a championship team rather than a true franchise-carrying superstar.

4. Athleticism and Skill Set Limitations​

  • Unlike players such as Michael Jordan, LeBron James, or Kobe Bryant, Robertson was not an elite athlete by modern standards. His game relied heavily on size and strength rather than speed or explosiveness.
  • He played in an era with less defensive sophistication, where players rarely faced the kind of elite perimeter defenders seen in later decades.
  • His mid-range-heavy game, while effective in his era, did not age as well in a modern analytical context.

5. Overemphasis on Triple-Doubles​

  • Adjusted for pace by 21st century standards, nearly a third of Robertson's triple-doubles would not have happened.
  • Robertson’s legacy is largely built on being the first player to average a triple-double, but this has been somewhat devalued by Russell Westbrook, who has averaged a triple-double multiple times in an era with much greater athleticism and defensive complexity.
  • The fact that Westbrook has been criticized for "stat-padding" raises questions about how much real impact Robertson’s numbers had in his era.

Conclusion​

Robertson's statistical accomplishments were inflated by era, his playoff record as the main guy was underwhelming, and he only won a title as a secondary option to Kareem. When adjusted for era, Robertson’s impact does not stand out as much as his raw numbers suggest, making him one of the most overrated players in basketball history.
 
If they had similar stats I’d say give it to Kon but they don’t. Flagg crushed him at everything but 3pointers.


If the argument is who’s the best rookie it’s Flagg. If it’s about the rookie on the best team than give it to Dylan Harper because Spurs are better than Hornets and hell Philly is too…..that reward has never been about teams record though.
Most times rookies other than the number one pick aren't expected to have an impact on a team but when they do then yeah how that team is doing does come into the picture. Dylan Harper isn't playing anywhere near the level of Kon and Flagg so you can't even put him in consideration
 
Most times rookies other than the number one pick aren't expected to have an impact on a team but when they do then yeah how that team is doing does come into the picture. Dylan Harper isn't playing anywhere near the level of Kon and Flagg so you can't even put him in consideration
That’s how I feel about Kon and Flagg though…they not playing anywhere the same level. VJ too been balling and Philly got a better record too.

It’s a very good class. Queen and Fears gonna wreck shit when the Pelicans get rid of Zion and Dejounte.
 
Well at least Embiid got on the court with Wemby.....then he checked out with a injury.........i can't take it
 
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