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Who was the killer in​

The Scream franchise is, well, a scream, baby. The original movie has become so infused in pop culture since its '90s debut that even people who haven't seen it can probably identify a Ghostface mask. It makes sense, of course, that a meta-movie that parodies both the horror genre and pop culture would go on to find its essential place in it.

Sure, we may have seen satirical and even meta-horror before Scream, but the movie spawned an entire subgenre for its particular brand of kooky yet clever horror comedy. Even better, the franchise has something to say about society. Prior to Scream VI, fans have witnessed nine different Ghostfaces throughout the franchise's run. So, let's head back to 1996 Woodsboro and see who was the killer in every Scream thus far.

Billy Loomis (​

Most of the time, Ghostface isn't acting alone. In fact, in the first five films, there’s only a single killer once. Yet even when Ghostface is a duo, there's typically a dominant Ghostie and someone who takes on a more expendable sidekick role. In the first movie, Sidney discovers her beau, Billy (Skeet Ulrich), is not only working with Stu as Ghostface but he also killed her mother (though we later learn he had some help).

While Billy acts shady throughout the movie, Sidney’s Ghostface call while her boyfriend is in jail seems to exonerate him — but she won't make that mistake again. Following the reveal, it's clear that Billy is running the show. And though he tries to convince her that it's scarier when there's no motive to become a killer, she sees right through his bravado when she discovers that her mom had an affair with Billy's mom, causing her to leave.

PSA to all potential Ghostfaces out there: Sidney Prescott is no damsel. She dons the Ghostface outfit and stabs Billy with an umbrella from the closet just as Jamie Lee Curtis pops out of her own closet during the Halloween movie playing in the background.

Stu Macher (​

Matthew Lillard played Stu with a heavy dose of entertaining chaos, quickly becoming one of the franchise's most iconic characters. Yet one thing that Stu Macher isn't? Bright. Who needs peer pressure drug ads when you can promote not becoming a serial killer just because your friends are doing it?

Stu claims that he thought of the plan to injure himself and Billy and frame the dead. But Stu and Billy (AKA absolute morons) stab each other before enacting their agenda. To make things more pathetic, Stu sobs, "My mom and dad are gonna be so mad at me." Oh, honey. You won't be around to deal with Disappointed Dad Voice.

Stu's reward for confessing that he had a thing for Sidney is a swift death sentence when she shoves his head inside a TV screen. There has to be a poetic message in there somewhere. And like most villains, Billy wastes his time having the upper hand by taunting Sidney with the sentiment, "Say hello to your mother." Gale (Courteney Cox) comes in for the assist, shooting Billy.

Everyone's favorite horror expert Randy is still here, though, remarking, "Careful, this is when the supposedly dead killer comes back for one last scare." Spoiler alert: He does. Sidney is on top of it, though. She gets one last dig in, saying, "Not in my movie." Billy won't be recovering from that headshot any time soon.

Mrs. Loomis (​

Well, Stu said it best in Scream: "Cause let's face it, baby, these days, you gotta have a sequel!" Mickey (Timothy Olyphant) and, plot twist, Mrs. Loomis (Laurie Metcalf) make that happen in Scream 2. Remember that super annoying reporter that keeps bugging Gale in the sequel? Yep, she's not a reporter at all — but Billy's mother.

As it turns out, this absent mother extraordinaire only cares about her kid after he goes on a murder spree and dies in the process — all in her name. And like her son, she doesn't turn Sidney's college campus into a neverending crime scene alone. Long before the existence of Reddit, serial killer aficionados had to make their own creepy message boards, and that's where Mrs. Loomis finds her expendable sidekick Mickey.

Mickey (​

In the age of true crime, we're all too familiar with this guy. He's watched one too many horror movies and serial killer interviews and simps for them instead of developing an interest without reverence. Naturally, things don't end particularly well for the mom of the year or her fame-seeking cohort.

Mickey briefly makes Sidney think her boyfriend is working with him before he shoots Derek (Jerry O'Connell). Mickey has the absurd plan to blame the movies on his homicide spree, and even Mrs. Loomis isn't impressed, opting to shoot him. Serial killers should really stop trusting each other.

Mrs. Loomis isn't playing around, either. She shoots Gale, saying, "Two birds, one stone." Naturally, Mrs. Loomis killed Randy earlier in the movie when he was "disparaging her son," but Sidney quickly calls her out for the hypocrisy of abandoning him.

Meanwhile, Cotton Weary (Liev Schreiber), the man Sidney initially blamed for her mom's death, comes in and uses the moment to extort his 15 minutes of fame from Sidney while he has a gun on Mrs. Loomis. Under duress, Sidney agrees to do the Diane Sawyer interview with Cotton. Like clockwork, the killers always come back, so Sidney has to fire off a few more rounds into Mickey before it's truly over. She even fires a shot into Mrs. Loomis' head for good measure.

Roman Bridger (​

A blast from the past via a recording left by Randy (RIP) tells us that the last movie in a trilogy changes everything you thought you knew about the origin story. And while Scream 3 isn’t the final piece of the franchise's puzzle, Randy is spot-on.

Folks, we’ve got ourselves another family plot twist. Once again, we learn that Sidney's mom kept more than a few secrets. Not only was she a D-list horror actress, but she had a son before making a life in Woodsboro. Enter Stab 3’s director, Roman Bridger (Scott Foley). Like Billy, instead of getting a therapist for his abandonment issues, Sidney's half-brother Roman decides to go on a killing spree.

In fact, Roman takes credit for coaching Billy on killing Mrs. Prescott, seemingly sparking the neverending deadly events in Woodsboro. Sidney quips back that he's a spineless bastard, but we'll never really know how much truth there is to his claims. Serial killers aren't exactly a trustworthy bunch.

Both half-siblings opted to wear bulletproof vests before their standoff, making their scuffle difficult. But Sidney adapts by stabbing him in the neck while Roman gloats about making Stab 3. And though her newfound brother was the catalyst for years of pain, she holds his hand while he dies, highlighting her compassion. Of course, Roman proves Randy's theory that the third villain always appears superhuman by barreling back to life and finally getting dusted by everyone’s favorite detective Dewey (David Arquette).

Jill Roberts (​

"Hello, Sidney. Surprised?" It's not like we haven't seen familial plot twists before in the Scream franchise. Hell, Roman's Ghostface was just one movie before Scream 4. Yet Sidney's soft-spoken niece Jill moonlighting as Ghostface continues to be one of the wildest plot twists in franchise history.

Yet her reasoning for going on a killing spree is one of the feeblest excuses we've seen up to this point. A vengeful Jill is fuming because her boyfriend cheated on her, dumped her, and "didn't even make [her] famous." A reasonable response to that betrayal would be to eat a tub of ice cream or start dating his best friend — not killing a bunch of teenagers.

Jill tries to paint herself as the bigger victim of bad boyfriends despite Billy killing Sidney’s mother, tormenting her, coercing her into sleeping with him, killing her best friend, and trying to kill her. Yes, getting cheated on is super worse than that. Now, that's not to say Jill doesn't get her revenge on her boyfriend. She shoots his junk off, which she could have done without killing innocents. No matter. Jill finishes the job with a headshot.

Charlie Walker (​

Like any good Ghostface, Jill dupes a henchman, and Charlie is obvious long before Jill’s big reveal. When Ghostface plays the tie-up game with Charlie, Kirby doesn't even wait until the end of the question before listing a slew of horror film answers. It seems fishy that her litany of answers is enough to untie Charlie, given that Ghostface never lets his victims win. After stabbing Kirby, Charlie spews an obnoxious incel speech about her not noticing him and his unwashed hair before now. Obviously, he had to become a killer. And given that we never see Kirby die, it's not surprising that Hayden Panettiere will be back for Scream 6.

After Jill shoots her ex, the deadly duo reveal that they want to become the new Randy and Sidney. But Charlie adds, "This time, Randy gets the girl." Spoiler alert: He doesn't. Taking a page from Billy and Stu's idiotic book, they stab each other before knocking off Sidney. Yet Jill turns on Charlie, noting, "What the media really loves, baby, is a sole survivor. Just ask you-know-who."

Jill is nothing if not committed to her ruse, slicing and dicing herself after appearing to kill Sidney. It almost looks like Jill will get away with it, too, but she mistakenly references something only the killer would know to Dewie. After bedpan fighting shenanigans and a slew of injured beatdowns, Sidney grabs a defibrillator and gives Jill 300 volts before saying, "You forgot the first rule of remakes, Jill. Don't f*** with the original." After taking her niece down, Sidney intrinsically knows Jill is behind her, landing one final shot in her chest. The film ends with a reporter calling Jill an American hero. But hey, “Sick is the new sane,” right?

Amber (​

Amber (Mikey Madison) and Richie (Jack Quaid) are a Ghostface duo without an obvious leader for the first time in franchise history. Neither tries to betray the other, and they both seem equally malicious — though Richie is much better at hiding his fame-hungry lust for deadly notoriety. We don't get to see quite enough Unhinged Richie to determine which of them (if any) is the stronger and more sadistic of the two — though there's certainly a case for Amber. So, how did the lovely couple meet? A Subreddit for Stab, obviously. They bonded over their homicidal nature and disdain for the Stab sequels, wanting to put their mark on the franchise.

Amber openly outs herself as the killer first, getting off on her friends' shocked reactions. Of course, she fails to dupe a seasoned Sidney and Gale into buying her victim ruse and shoots Gale — who tells Sidney to finish it for Dewie. But Gale isn't down for the count for very long. The OG women have had enough of Amber's nonsense, who taunts them about Dewie's death. After Amber says, "Time to pass the torch," Sidney lets Gale avenge Dewie by shooting Amber into the lit stove, lighting the high schooler ablaze. Gale snarks, "Enjoy that torch." Ah, what an exit.

Richie (​

The first rule of the Scream franchise is, "Never trust the love interest." Now, everyone in the Scream (2022) requel knows this (because Dewie flat-out tells the newbies). Somehow, the crew still gets taken for a ride by Richie. Outside of maybe Jill, he's the first killer in Ghostface history to have that patented sociopathic serial killer charm that immediately puts people at ease around him. Even though we know we shouldn't trust him, he seems so genuine, dorky, and sweet that it's hard to think of him as a suspect.

Yet Richie's manipulation game is on point. He even tries to convince Sam (Melissa Barrera) that her sister Tara (Jenna Ortega) is the killer. But naturally, after his big reveal, Richie stabs Sam and says he really wants to be the one to kill her. Later, Richie gives off some Roman vibes, parroting the killer’s lame movie-related reason for becoming a killer. After whining about people making fun of horror fans, Richie waxed on, "How can fandom be toxic? It's about love!"

The guy has somehow deluded himself into believing that Sam, the daughter of a serial killer, is somehow more of a villain than the actual serial killers. After Sam stabs the holy hell out of him with the help of her Billy hallucinations, Richie asks, "What about my ending?" Sam says, "Here it comes," and slits his throat. Sidney warns Sam that they always come back, and right on cue, a burned-alive Amber comes barrelling in, and Tara goes for the kill shot. But the most noteworthy takeaway is Sam's newly established rule: "Never f*** with the daughter of a serial killer."

Jason Carvey​

With a name like Jason Carvey, it sounds like a serial killer future was in the cards for Jason since birth. The 2022 Scream requel may have been the franchise's official reboot, but Scream VI takes the cake for reinventing the franchise and turning the usual twists and tricks inside out. Apparently, the film's in-universe Stab phenomenon has gotten so intense that multiple pairs of killers are coming out of the woodwork (or Woodsboro, if you will). But there can only be one tag team.

Within the first 15 minutes of the movie, Jason guts his film teacher, unmasks himself in the middle of the street, and finds his partner Greg in chunks in the fridge. Jason certainly isn't the brightest killer we've seen in the series, but his bloodbath was unparalleled up to this point. As our round two Ghostface taunts him, Jason admits that his victim didn't even feel like a person when he endlessly stabbed her. So why did he catfish his professor and gut her in an alley? She gave him a C-. Obviously.

Interestingly enough, our second Ghostface shames Jason for his childish reasons for taking on the Ghostface persona. By the time Ghostface sends Jason to the afterlife with his pal Greg, it almost seems like this Ghostface might be a vigilante killer of Ghostfaces, much like Dexter in the self-titled show. Of course, that doesn't end up being the case, but that opening really threw fans for a loop.

Detective Bailey (​

If a cop's name isn't Dewey, they can't be trusted. Even though the Carpenter sisters are skeptical of Detective Bailey at first, their instincts are overruled by what seems like a grieving dad after Tara's roommate supposedly dies at Ghosty's hands. Of course, Tara internalizes that guilt, making it all the easier for Bailey to manipulate her into falling for his trap.

So, what's this guy's deal anyway? A-la Scream 2, Richie's father is back for revenge. And instead of employing a lame jock to do his bidding, he turns his two remaining kids into serial killers. Ah, fatherhood.

Sure, Richie murdered all of the Carpenter sisters' friends (and tried to off Tara and Sam more than a few times). Still, Bailey can't accept that his kid royally sucked (as do Richie's siblings and father of the year). Scream VI marks the first time we've seen a killer family take on the Ghostface persona. Three Ghostfaces is also a new one for the movie.

Quinn Bailey (​

Quinn likely had you fooled if you're a Tatum stan like most Scream fans. Tara's outgoing saucy roommate feels like a blast from the 1996 movie, and we can't help but fall for Quinn's charm. Of course, we're used to Ghostface coming back from the dead, but not so much his seemingly dead victims. Her "death" offered the perfect in for Bailey while she was able to hide the truth under a Ghostface mask. And apparently, the serial killer gene runs deep in Richie's family because neither of his siblings seems to have an issue with murder.

Ethan Landry (​

Behold: the nerd. Out of each potential killer, the group seems the most skeptical about Ethan. That is until he's with Mindy on the train when she gets stabbed. Yet most Ghostface killers have a partner, so that doesn't exactly tell us much. And like plenty of his predecessors, Ethan gives off some uncomfy incel vibes when he makes lewd remarks about Tara. Killing is just a natural progression of his Nice Guy behavior, right?

After Bailey tricks Tara into going to the abandoned movie theater and shifts suspicion on Kirby, we finally get our mask reveal. But not before we go down Scream memory lane with countless weapons, Ghostface memorabilia, and homages to victims from nearly three decades of Woodsboro bloodshed.

In typical Ghostface hypocrisy, the delightful family accuses Sam of being a killer despite the fact that her kills were self-defense, while theirs was revenge for the boy that tried to kill her in the first place. Anyone else's head hurt? Sam stabs the ever-loving crap out of Ethan, who somehow survives. Tara jumps down and stabs him through the mouth with the iconic sentiment to "die a f****** virgin." Meanwhile, Sam opts for a headshot when she taunts Quinn for being down another brother.

Hold on; we're not done yet. After taking care of the sinister siblings, Sam calls Bailey in Ghostface voice to taunt him. Sam finally gives Bailey what he wanted from the beginning: donning her father's mask. After stabbing him more than a few times, Sam and Tara pretend to give him grace before stabbing him in the face, saying, “But you did f*** with our family.”

Of course, it's not a Scream movie without at least one Ghostface coming back from certain death. Ethan barrels through the theater as Richie's movie credits roll. Kirby is there to shove his head into a TV, giving him a Stu Macher death. The fact that the core four (and Kirby) survive the bloodshed is a straight-up miracle — and a first for the series.
 
wtf was this bullshit… they fucked the Stu fans with this movie… worst scream reveal ever.. fuck this movie.. some violent kills but overall why does this movie exist.. who thought this was a good idea.. what were they thinking… will not ruin the rest for people that didn’t see it
 
I liked it for the most part, just underwhelmed about the killer reveal and their motivations.

Also, the only thing I would nitpick


For someone who never used a gun, Sid's daughter grouped her shots like she was John Wick. On the other hand, I did like how they acknowledged she needed to protect her hearing
 
xxxbishopxxx said:
I liked it for the most part, just underwhelmed about the killer reveal and their motivations.

Also, the only thing I would nitpick


For someone who never used a gun, Sid's daughter grouped her shots like she was John Wick. On the other hand, I did like how they acknowledged she needed to protect her hearing
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when they showed the mother and son, i thought it was both of them, then after what happened to the son, i thought it couldn't be. also, how the fuck was she able to come running back at the end before getting shot. She was stabbed several times in the leg. Not to mention, she was hit with a brick in the head and kept fighting. and if i see another movie where someone shoots the killer and then tries to walk past the body and get's grabbed, i will destroy the fucking movie projector. Last gripe, in the house with the first killer, after the daughter gets free - its three of them with a gun and one of him with a knife......gtfoh. He would not have made it outside the house.
 
TimRock said:
when they showed the mother and son, i thought it was both of them, then after what happened to the son, i thought it couldn't be. also, how the fuck was she able to come running back at the end before getting shot. She was stabbed several times in the leg. Not to mention, she was hit with a brick in the head and kept fighting. and if i see another movie where someone shoots the killer and then tries to walk past the body and get's grabbed, i will destroy the fucking movie projector. Last gripe, in the house with the first killer, after the daughter gets free - its three of them with a gun and one of him with a knife......gtfoh. He would not have made it outside the house.
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I've grown to accept the fact that horror movies will have superhuman badguy(s). However, even I was surprised about the amount of violence those three took and not a mark or reaction to said violence was shown... lol
 
I liked it. Wasn't that bad to me.









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TimRock said:
when they showed the mother and son, i thought it was both of them, then after what happened to the son, i thought it couldn't be. also, how the fuck was she able to come running back at the end before getting shot. She was stabbed several times in the leg. Not to mention, she was hit with a brick in the head and kept fighting. and if i see another movie where someone shoots the killer and then tries to walk past the body and get's grabbed, i will destroy the fucking movie projector. Last gripe, in the house with the first killer, after the daughter gets free - its three of them with a gun and one of him with a knife......gtfoh. He would not have made it outside the house.
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Adrenaline… people can always use that as an excuse or as truth.. when you hyped up your body can do some incredible things even while in pain or injured until it wear off… survival mode is real
 
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