Ironheart lands its lead writer. I'm ready to see this one.
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I thought she was great.
Black people have a difficulty in this world simply being. Growing up in a certain area makes us attempt to assimilate even if we are intellectually light years ahead of the people in the community we grew up in.
This is visible in one of my favorite movies, Finding Forrester, aka The Black Good Will Hunting. Jamal grew up in the hood and he was brilliant, but he dumbed himself down in order to assimilate to the culture and not be singled out for being a nerd. It helped him to be accepted.
Because riri Williams is a nerd, it's possible she adopted a more 'hood' style and mannerisms in order to say, "Hey, I'm just like y'all. See?"
As I said before, black people have difficulties simply being, and other people are quick to want to take our black card away, this is why Theo Huxtable tries to hang out down the way in the projects when his parents afforded him the opportunity to never have to even visit the projects. He feels that he has to in order to be black because the black experience is supposedly poor or ghetto, so many black people assimilate to one or both of those principles.
This is basically my life growing up. I tried not to be smart, although I was one of the smartest people in my grade.
Some thoughts after a rewatch:
I think Thorne is a pretty good actor. In this anyway, the only other thing I'd seen her in was Wakanda, and she didn't stand out in that muddle.
Thankfully, we've avoided the usual tropes so far. She's a fish out of water but...not really. I've been to Chi many times and besides it being a TV show, no punches pulled.
The AI with a glitch because of the real personal trauma is a masterstroke. They'll probably resolve it along with Riri's panic attacks but all this lends, to my mind, a sense of reality to the show. She's just a (brilliant) girl from the hood grinding to reach her dream.
The supporting cast are defined and thankfully not the usual sidekicks. And I've always thought the girl from G.L.O.W. was hot asf. Tony is a NY homie and I've seen him in lots of stuff from off-off to Broadway. Always solid.
Speaking of hot, I think Thorne is sneaky sexy. The kind of girl you don't know is hot til you know she's hot.
The script is good, not full of the usual cliches. I am not familiar with the comic characters at all so I'm unbiased in that respect.
The one issue I have is the music. I realize it is the soundtrack of their lives but I fear it is too niche and so won't age well at all.
The best thing I can say is I'm eager to see the next episodes.
I think Thorne is a pretty good actor. In this anyway, the only other thing I'd seen her in was Wakanda, and she didn't stand out in that muddle.
Thankfully, we've avoided the usual tropes so far. She's a fish out of water but...not really. I've been to Chi many times and besides it being a TV show, no punches pulled.
The AI with a glitch because of the real personal trauma is a masterstroke. They'll probably resolve it along with Riri's panic attacks but all this lends, to my mind, a sense of reality to the show. She's just a (brilliant) girl from the hood grinding to reach her dream.
The supporting cast are defined and thankfully not the usual sidekicks. And I've always thought the girl from G.L.O.W. was hot asf. Tony is a NY homie and I've seen him in lots of stuff from off-off to Broadway. Always solid.
Speaking of hot, I think Thorne is sneaky sexy. The kind of girl you don't know is hot til you know she's hot.
The script is good, not full of the usual cliches. I am not familiar with the comic characters at all so I'm unbiased in that respect.
The one issue I have is the music. I realize it is the soundtrack of their lives but I fear it is too niche and so won't age well at all.
The best thing I can say is I'm eager to see the next episodes.
The show is extra mediocre. I'm surprised the show is being treated with kid gloves here. The white boy incel hate is uncalled for. However this is not a great show. My girl said the show was like watching a bootleg after school special.
The lead from The Acolyte would have been a much better fit. That was a great show and the white boys went crazy. Iron Heart is not a great show so it's going to be worse.
The lead from The Acolyte would have been a much better fit. That was a great show and the white boys went crazy. Iron Heart is not a great show so it's going to be worse.
Disney plus has been Disney negative for awhile now.
she was in Freaky Tales. Took me a few minutes to recognize her.
I think after 3 episodes, the show is pretty good. The 3rd episode made it better. In just watching 3 episodes, i think its already better than Moon Knight, Loki and Agatha. I had to watch the first few episodes of these multiple times because i kept dozing off.
you knew RDJ was gonna speak on it
BTW:
Lupita Nyong'o
Scarjo
Colbie Smulders
maga Evangaline Lily
Zendaya
Cate Blanchett
Zoe Saldana
Danai Gurira
Pom Klementieff
Rachel McAdams
even kooky Gwyneth Paltrow
Natalie Portman if you like bones
if you like tits
Brie Larson
Elizabeth Olsen
Hannah John-Kamen
when they were skinny(er)
Kat Dennings
Lashana Lynch
Teyonah Parris
and various bimbos Tony had around. And I haven't even gone into the TV universe.
Now, not all these are to everybody's taste, stipulated, but the point is they're all to SOMEBODY'S taste. And when your target audience is yt male 18-25 you'd better have some sex appeal up in there.
Marvel has failed in that recently. I think that's a big reason why the recent movies don't get much traction. Nobody is checking for Florence Pugh, I don't care how tight the catsuit is.
I get they want to be inclusive and have gay and nonbinary characters etc but you'd better get some T&A back in there, Kevin, or you're liable to scuttle the whole thing.
I am slow burning this show. I have only watched the first episode. But right off the bat, MIT kicks you out, why are you NOT making a call to Wakanda?!?! I'd be like: 'FCUK THIS JANKY ASS SCHOOL!!!! Do you know where I JUST came from? WAKANDA FOREVER BYTCH!!!!!" Why introduce her to Wakanda if she can't call in a favor or two...hell those motherfcukers OWE you!!!
This strays A LOT away from the comic, which as a fanboy I hate, but as a fan I get the story telling that you can't have a 1 to 1 adaptation. That said, they over complicated the story. Why is she building this suit in her mothers kitchen? You have a whole ass garage that her step-father owned. Obviously she has emotions tied to that place so she wouldn't be able to work there, but a kitchen? That she kills the power to the building, but nobody is trying to kill her and her family up for killing everyone's AC in what looks like the summer. A laptop that uploaded her consciousness for over 4 hours off of it's battery?!?!
They should have kept her in MIT (like in the comic) and the Hood worked with a student at MIT who recruited Riri
This strays A LOT away from the comic, which as a fanboy I hate, but as a fan I get the story telling that you can't have a 1 to 1 adaptation. That said, they over complicated the story. Why is she building this suit in her mothers kitchen? You have a whole ass garage that her step-father owned. Obviously she has emotions tied to that place so she wouldn't be able to work there, but a kitchen? That she kills the power to the building, but nobody is trying to kill her and her family up for killing everyone's AC in what looks like the summer. A laptop that uploaded her consciousness for over 4 hours off of it's battery?!?!
They should have kept her in MIT (like in the comic) and the Hood worked with a student at MIT who recruited Riri
Why would you need an actor that has an expanded vocabulary? You're regurgitating lines, whether you know them or not. Also...she is a teenager! That's what teenagers act like. The actress is fine, they seem to be trying to cram 40minutes of story into a 20minute show. A problem I have, she was always trying to live up to her stepfathers standard in the comic. The minute illegal comes up she would have been gone. But I am only episode one in while comparing the whole Ironheart comic to it
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I will support shows with black leads but I'm not going to blindly support it. If it sucks then I will be like I can't watch this. I'll do the same with predominantly white shows. Daredevil was fire, liked Andor too. Hell Luke Cage was dope to me. Maybe Marvel has lost its mojo. I was watching Captain America Civil War seeing Black Panther fighting Cap and Bucky, I was like damn, the good ol days lol.
Co-sign....1st 2 episodes had good elements but not great overall to me..gonna stick with it and check out the 3rd episode and ultimately will finish it if its only 6 episodes
This
But I'm hearing all kinds of bad things already..like all the shoe horned black stereotypes....some kinda flaming homo thats also black. I'll check it out but..it probably ain't my thing.
It has all the elements you would find in damn near every other show on TV that. You'll hear bad things about all shows, especially ours.
Ours?
Is it supposed to be a black people show?
Just because they threw a bunch of black people and black stereotypes in it?
And we supposed to just like it?
Meaning, it's a black lead.
I never said anyone was supposed to like it, what i'm saying is, that no matter who is in a show or what the show is about, you will always have people with something negative to say.
Yeah there's definitely a black flamethrower in it with green hair lmao
It's the racist cacs who review bombing this show that pisses me off.
Review bombing or not the show is not good.
Yeah I agree, I still hate what those cacs be doing though.
I believe my post above explains the idea that she is too hood to be a genius.
I also believe genius has a lot more to do with processing power and speed more so than vocabulary and even spelling. Einstein was a notoriously horrible speller, but no one would doubt his genius. See what I mean?
I've actually met people who could take a car apart and put it back together - never having been to school for it, yet they could not communicate well outside of a one-on-one with someone they were comfortable with.
The way they saw shit was just their genius because they saw it for all the thousand pieces whereas I could only see it as the whole
I know a few people in the field of physics, and trust me, even the black ones don't speak the way she does on the show. This would be like walking into the hospital and finding your surgeon talking like Iron Heart. Is it impossible? No, but the probabilities are off the chart.
For once, I'd like them to promote black people being smart without any strings or need to soften the blow by making us talk more urban so we don't come off as too smart.
Civil War is such an under rated movie
That 3-way fight scene at the end was crazy
When Tony found out Bucky killed his Mom
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I really enjoyed the first 3 episodes. Its entertaining and the production is pretty good.
Stark lost it we he found that out. I watch Civil War or the Winter Soldier at least once a year.Civil War is such an under rated movie
That 3-way fight scene at the end was crazy
When Tony found out Bucky killed his Mom
Yeah they always have these actresses sounding so urban. Hell I know many black women I grew up with who speak like Nia Long, Sanaa Lathan or Regina Hall. Not all black folks sound ghetto especially one who attends MIT.
I think of two things —
1) is this actress’ normal speaking voice? Probably not. Idk her outside of this role and FREAKY TALES which was another regional accent performance — which means it’s on the actor imo to push back. Unfortunately there’s always a “Honeycutt” ready to coon another day… “good luck brotha!”*
2) good will hunting. Where idk but dudes accent was def notably “urban” - which makes me think of Antoine Fisher where of course bec lookin back to 1) Denzel was in control of that ship so it was goin to be the best most honest and complete light on what black authenticity is portrayed at all times. Thus, accent in AF is not on some bs
Couple cents added. Ain’t seen show yet. Don’t much care for MCU. But always end up checkin at least a bit of the content eventually. I DO hope it’s excellent and that it is super popular. And look fwd to my eventual enjoyments.
*yes. That is two different movie ref shittin on coonin as a habit — bamboozled & h.shuffle. If you don’t know ya better ask somebody
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