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I wonder if Miami would have gone after KD harder if Phoenix would have waited. The east is wide open next year.

The Knicks will probably be the favorite, which will be great when their fans get all happy so they can get swept out the finals against the west.
 
That’s my point though. If they had Horace they would’ve been good. They didn’t need a hall of famed they needed a defensive interior presence.
They didn’t.. so there’s no 3 peat if they don’t get a Rodman or a great rebounder.. take Rodman out the equation and they don’t find a replacement there’s no 3 peat period
 
And take MJ off or Pippen what are they?
Mj and pippen, kukoc we’re on the team without Horace grant and Rodman and how many chips did they win?

But when Horace and Rodman were on the team how many chips did they win

My point 6 chips when they had that rebounder they needed

No chip when they didn’t have that rebounder

Warriors went to 3 finals and won 2 of them without kd.. that’s why the kd comparison sucks
 
I mean if they don’t replace that production it’s hard to say. They needed a defensive interior presence to be as good as they were. Especially back then when it was more physical.
They got eliminated early.. they lost a rebounder in Horace grant.. Horace grant was their leading rebounder.. their centers weren’t shit so they needed help to get boards..when he left they struggled on the boards.. enter Dennis Rodman and there goes 3 more chips.. I’m a bulls fan I’m telling you from watching all those chips and games back in the days..even going to some when they played in msg
 
They got eliminated early.. they lost a rebounder in Horace grant.. Horace grant was their leading rebounder.. their centers weren’t shit so they needed help to get boards..when he left they struggled on the boards.. enter Dennis Rodman and there goes 3 more chips.. I’m a bulls fan I’m telling you from watching all those chips and games back in the days..even going to some when they played in msg
You’re being dishonest if you think Rodman was the only player they needed. They needed a rebounder I was an Orlando Magic fan and I remember Magic out rebounding them. Also you aren’t acknowledging MJ was retired and came back…and his pops was murdered around this time. Bulls wasn’t right that season you keep bringing up.
 
You’re being dishonest if you think Rodman was the only player they needed. They needed a rebounder I was an Orlando Magic fan and I remember Magic out rebounding them. Also you aren’t acknowledging MJ was retired and came back…and his pops was murdered around this time. Bulls wasn’t right that season you keep bringing up.
Weren’t you like 8 yrs old at that time? They lost a key piece to their championship which was a rebounder.. if Horace grant never leaves than the bulls might actually went to the finals that yr.. Horace grant was on the magic.. the same magic that beat the bulls that yr.. so if Horace grant dosent leave he’s not an addition to the magic and he’s a key piece that they were missing that yr when they lost to the magic.. like dudes is really arguing the facts.. THIS SHIT IS CRAZY
 
Weren’t you like 8 yrs old at that time? They lost a key piece to their championship which was a rebounder.. if Horace grant never leaves than the bulls might actually went to the finals that yr.. Horace grant was on the magic.. the same magic that beat the bulls that yr.. so if Horace grant dosent leave he’s not an addition to the magic and he’s a key piece that they were missing that yr when they lost to the magic.. like dudes is really arguing the facts.. THIS SHIT IS CRAZY
I don’t remember how old I was but i for sure had eyes and remember they lost the rebounding department and it for sure was stated everywhere which is why they got Rodman who was a rebounder. He wasn’t a scorer for sure lol.

It is your opinion they wouldn’t 3 peat. You’re speaking from emotion. There is nothing factual about your opinion. You’re entitled to it. I never said you was wrong so quit getting emotional. All I’m saying is there’s nothing to say they only 3 peated because of Rodman it’s a weird take.

The SGA trade is much worse. I’m sorry.
 
I don’t remember how old I was but i for sure had eyes and remember they lost the rebounding department and it for sure was stated everywhere which is why they got Rodman who was a rebounder. He wasn’t a scorer for sure lol.

It is your opinion they wouldn’t 3 peat. You’re speaking from emotion. There is nothing factual about your opinion. You’re entitled to it. I never said you was wrong so quit getting emotional. All I’m saying is there’s nothing to say they only 3 peated because of Rodman it’s a weird take.

The SGA trade is much worse. I’m sorry.
So you don’t know how old you were in 94/95? You said you “were” a magic fan which means you sound like you really weren’t just on the bandwagon for the time being which usually means don’t know the team that well .. pippen average the most rebs that yr for the bulls with 8.. the second highest was will Perdue with under 7 rebs that game… Horace grant almost average 10 rebs with the magic that yr.. already this proves my point of missing his presence on the boards.. Dennis Rodman the next 3 yrs on the bulls he averaged 14.9 rebs, 16.1, and 15 rebs.. so once again we lost a rebounder and lost in the playoffs..when we got a rebounder we won 3 straight.. if Rodman on the team that yr when we lost to the magic would it had been a difference me think so being that we swept them the next yr.. but forget about stats, facts, and other real life shit.. 15 reb a season players don’t matter
 
So you don’t know how old you were in 94/95? You said you “were” a magic fan which means you sound like you really weren’t just on the bandwagon for the time being which usually means don’t know the team that well .. pippen average the most rebs that yr for the bulls with 8.. the second highest was will Perdue with under 7 rebs that game… Horace grant almost average 10 rebs with the magic that yr.. already this proves my point of missing his presence on the boards.. Dennis Rodman the next 3 yrs on the bulls he averaged 14.9 rebs, 16.1, and 15 rebs.. so once again we lost a rebounder and lost in the playoffs..when we got a rebounder we won 3 straight.. if Rodman on the team that yr when we lost to the magic would it had been a difference me think so being that we swept them the next yr.. but forget about stats, facts, and other real life shit.. 15 reb a season players don’t matter
I was a child of course I was on the bandwagon lol….the shit you get hung up on is crazy man my point was I use to watch Magic games and I remember when MJ came back. I swear I really don’t care I was a bandwagon Magic fan lol. I don’t take offense.

I don’t even know that you arguing…..but let’s stop the side missions and get back to the og topic…


Yes Purdue for Rodman was a bad trade.
Yes Sours traded Rodman because he was a knucklehead.
Yes Grant was missed by the Bulls.
Yes they missed his interior presence.

Ok. Now that all that is out the way….trading Paul George for SGA and 7 first round picks is one of the worst trades of all time.

it’s the worst I’ve seen. It’s almost NBA equivalent to Hershel Walker…
 
I was a child of course I was on the bandwagon lol….the shit you get hung up on is crazy man my point was I use to watch Magic games and I remember when MJ came back. I swear I really don’t care I was a bandwagon Magic fan lol. I don’t take offense.

I don’t even know that you arguing…..but let’s stop the side missions and get back to the og topic…


Yes Purdue for Rodman was a bad trade.
Yes Sours traded Rodman because he was a knucklehead.
Yes Grant was missed by the Bulls.
Yes they missed his interior presence.

Ok. Now that all that is out the way….trading Paul George for SGA and 7 first round picks is one of the worst trades of all time.

it’s the worst I’ve seen. It’s almost NBA equivalent to Hershel Walker…
Will Perdue was garbage and anybody could’ve traded something better than him to get Rodman but they didn’t and we did, it led us to 3 chips.. spurs gave the bulls the keys to a new dynasty for a half eaten rotten donut.. this was my response since the beginning on why that was 1 of the worst trades for one team and best for another.. yet you tried to act like Rodman coming to the bulls wasn’t huge for the bulls…once again could’ve just left it alone.. spurs gave us the keys to a brand new Ferrari for absolutely nothing
 
Will Perdue was garbage and anybody could’ve traded something better than him to get Rodman but they didn’t and we did, it led us to 3 chips.. spurs gave the bulls the keys to a new dynasty for a half eaten rotten donut.. this was my response since the beginning on why that was 1 of the worst trades for one team and best for another.. yet you tried to act like Rodman coming to the bulls wasn’t huge for the bulls…once again could’ve just left it alone.. spurs gave us the keys to a brand new Ferrari for absolutely nothing
I didn’t pretend anything you just for whatever emotional about this. I never said it didn’t mean anything lol. All I said was SGA was worse lol…..

You don’t want to hear it from me but I asked Chat why no one traded for Rodman…..


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When the Chicago Bulls traded for him in 1995, they gave up Will Perdue, a backup center. This showed:

  • The Spurs were eager to move on.
  • Few, if any, teams were bidding seriously for Rodman.
  • Only a team with strong leadership (Jordan, Pippen, Phil Jackson) could realistically manage him.

In Summary:​

Teams didn't want to trade for Rodman not because he lacked talent—but because of the risk-reward imbalance. He was a Hall-of-Fame rebounder and defender, but came with high-maintenance personality traits that scared off many front offices.



Maybe chat lying I don’t know….
 


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