Movie News: Ryan Coogler & Michael B. Jordan - SINNERS - jim crow era vampire flick (SPOILERS OPEN!!!)

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The horror fan in me loves the 10 pic and would make it a t shirt… the 3rd pic would also make that a t-shirt, the tale of 2 men.. the second pic is the representation of each character
 
I thought it was another black trauma film at first, so I immediately stopped thinking about it. One of my gaming homies informed me on the actual plot,, and I changed my mind.
I sorta thought the same but I was clued in pretty early on. The thing is, I didn't hear about this film until well into May when reviews and analysis started popping up on YouTube, including on channels that focus on politics like Roland Martin.

I went through all of April without hearing about this film at all.
 


Ryan Coogler is: an acclaimed filmmaker from Oakland who’s written and directed 4 films: Fruitvale Station, Creed, Black Panther and Wakanda Forever. He also co-produced the Fred Hampton biopic Judas and the Black Messiah.

When Black Panther was released It was the highest grossing film in 2018, and the highest grossing film ever written and directed by a Black person. It grossed $1.3B. It was the first Super Hero film nominated for a best movie Oscar, and it won 4.

Ryan Coogler’s 1st four films have grosses $2.5 B.
His latest film SINNERS, has was the #1 film in America, and by next weekend (its 4th weekend in theaters) it will have grossed $1/4B worldwide.

Ryan Coogler will be 39 years old this month.

Warner Brothers spent $100M to make SINNERS and another $50M to market it. Warner Brothers will give Coogler “first dollar gross” and will relinquish ownership of the film to him in 25 years.

Sinners is a cinematic love letter to Coogler’s uncle James Edmonson who was born in Mississippi and moved to Oakland in his 20s. James was married to his Coogler’s mother’s youngest sister Sammie.

Anthony Browder will discuss the Cinematic Genius of Ryan Coogler & Sinners in a Zoom Webinar on May 16. The link for this webinar can be found at https://us02web.zoom.us


Video downloads of this and other webinars can be found at www.ikg-info.com

Can’t wait for this tonight.

If anyone knows how to record a zoom meeting let me know.

Tony might broadcast it on YouTube or FB and I’ll post if he does
 
China is on some bs
I saw that a few weeks ago also regarding China, and I wonder how much promotions "Sinners" has been receiving in the International market?

I see commercials for the "Thunderbolts*" which has a larger promotional campaign in the United States, and yet "Sinners" still maintains a higher Domestic gross (yes, I am aware that "Sinners" was released on April 18, and that the "Thunderbolts*" was released on May 2).

PS. "Sinners" should clear the 300 million mark by Sunday or Monday.
 
I saw that a few weeks ago also regarding China, and I wonder how much promotions "Sinners" has been receiving in the International market?

I see commercials for the "Thunderbolts*" which has a larger promotional campaign in the United States, and yet "Sinners" still maintains a higher Domestic gross (yes, I am aware that "Sinners" was released on April 18, and that the "Thunderbolts*" was released on May 2).

PS. "Sinners" should clear the 300 million mark by Sunday or Monday.
I just looked up the budget for Sinners and it's not that much smaller than that for Thunderbolts ($100mil vs $180mil) and I'm sure a percentage of that was for advertising. It makes me curious as to why the movie seemed to receive far less promotion. I can't recall even seeing a single commercial for Sinners.
 
I just looked up the budget for Sinners and it's not that much smaller than that for Thunderbolts ($100mil vs $180mil) and I'm sure a percentage of that was for advertising. It makes me curious as to why the movie seemed to receive far less promotion. I can't recall even seeing a single commercial for Sinners.
WB wasn't sure what to expect so their initial estimates were relatively low. Coogler is playing with house money right now and after listening to the DP on the Higher Learning podcast about how close Coogler and Chrstopher Nolan are, im thinking Coogler is headed for the stratosphere. I think he may end being top 5 directors all time. I feel confident in saying this.
 
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I just looked up the budget for Sinners and it's not that much smaller than that for Thunderbolts ($100mil vs $180mil) and I'm sure a percentage of that was for advertising. It makes me curious as to why the movie seemed to receive far less promotion. I can't recall even seeing a single commercial for Sinners.
You asked a good question regarding less promotion and it would be interesting to hear what the studios would say (I have a feeling the response provided to the public would be different from what is said behind closed doors).

I found this on Reddit, and some of the comments are interesting:

 
China is on some bs
Most Chinese people know nothing about the American south in the 1930s, and it came over right when China was retaliating against the US for tariffs, so it likely got zero advertising. Seriously, people go on about how much money the studios make from China, that's really just the films that were partially financed by Chinese companies (so they are advertised well) or they are things that everyone knows about like the Avengers and Batman.

I just looked up the budget for Sinners and it's not that much smaller than that for Thunderbolts ($100mil vs $180mil) and I'm sure a percentage of that was for advertising. It makes me curious as to why the movie seemed to receive far less promotion. I can't recall even seeing a single commercial for Sinners.
Sinners succeeded despite being setup to fail because a lot of people have been waiting on it for a while and immediately went into protecting it when the initial doubt articles were put out. Don't misunderstand, it wasn't complete sabotage because of the deal, it's that the studios are afraid of putting any advertising money in general into anything that they aren't sure will take off.

Everyone thinks all Hollywood does is remakes. They do it because that's the one thing that people tend to go and see, and that's all that they really advertise more than just the week before it comes out so people are aware that it's coming. There were a ton of original story films that have come out over the last year or so and almost every single one bombed. Let's look at the last six months.

Mickey 17, Novocaine, Red One, Megalopolis, Horizon, Love Hurts, yes some of them were bad, but several that I'm forgetting I've heard multiple people say they had no clue it was out and people were missing out by assuming it must suck because it was only out for two weeks.

Part of that is lack of advertising. Part of that is the short theater window, which is averaging around 17 days. And part of that is because a lot of people are content with waiting a few weeks to rent it or it to show up on streaming.
 
I just looked up the budget for Sinners and it's not that much smaller than that for Thunderbolts ($100mil vs $180mil) and I'm sure a percentage of that was for advertising. It makes me curious as to why the movie seemed to receive far less promotion. I can't recall even seeing a single commercial for Sinners.
The marketing plan was the Variety story.
 

Sinners​

Synopsis​

Trying to leave their troubled lives behind, twin brothers return to their hometown to start again, only to discover that an even greater evil is waiting to welcome them back.

Metrics​


Opening Weekend:$48,007,468 (21.3% of total gross)
Legs:4.69 (domestic box office/biggest weekend)
Domestic Share:76.8% (domestic box office/worldwide)
Production Budget:$90,000,000 (worldwide box office is 3.3 times production budget)
Theater counts:3,308 opening theaters/3,502 max. theaters, 3.9 weeks average run per theater
Infl. Adj. Dom. BO$225,370,547


Thunderbolts*

Metrics​


Opening Weekend:$74,300,608 (53.5% of total gross)
Legs:1.87 (domestic box office/biggest weekend)
Domestic Share:49.2% (domestic box office/worldwide)
Production Budget:$180,000,000 (worldwide box office is 1.6 times production budget)
Theater counts:4,330 opening theaters/4,330 max. theaters, 2.0 weeks average run per theater
Infl. Adj. Dom. BO$138,891,643
 
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I liked this one from the first grouping because it seems to fit the movie title, "Sinners."



It makes you wonder what is this movie about?

The one thing I didn't like about one of the movie trailers was the scene where Hailee Steinfeld said:

"You all going..."

That reason I didn’t like that one scene in the trailers was because it sort of gave away what was going to happen.

I have told multiple people about the movie, but I can think of at least 3 who are reluctant to go see it because it's a Horror movie.
 


Ryan Coogler is: an acclaimed filmmaker from Oakland who’s written and directed 4 films: Fruitvale Station, Creed, Black Panther and Wakanda Forever. He also co-produced the Fred Hampton biopic Judas and the Black Messiah.

When Black Panther was released It was the highest grossing film in 2018, and the highest grossing film ever written and directed by a Black person. It grossed $1.3B. It was the first Super Hero film nominated for a best movie Oscar, and it won 4.

Ryan Coogler’s 1st four films have grosses $2.5 B.
His latest film SINNERS, has was the #1 film in America, and by next weekend (its 4th weekend in theaters) it will have grossed $1/4B worldwide.

Ryan Coogler will be 39 years old this month.

Warner Brothers spent $100M to make SINNERS and another $50M to market it. Warner Brothers will give Coogler “first dollar gross” and will relinquish ownership of the film to him in 25 years.

Sinners is a cinematic love letter to Coogler’s uncle James Edmonson who was born in Mississippi and moved to Oakland in his 20s. James was married to his Coogler’s mother’s youngest sister Sammie.

Anthony Browder will discuss the Cinematic Genius of Ryan Coogler & Sinners in a Zoom Webinar on May 16. The link for this webinar can be found at https://us02web.zoom.us


Video downloads of this and other webinars can be found at www.ikg-info.com

Did anybody catch this? Did anybody record it? I completely missed it. Got busy last night and missed it. If anybody has it, post it. Thanks
 
On Thursday, Sinners beat Thunderbolts a month after its release. This movie has some ridiculous staying power


This movie could have done 400 easily without the hating ass countries. I think coogler just saved cinema and movies. This will be the blueprint. Give black people what they want and theyvwill support it. Going 2 or 3 times.
 
This movie could have done 400 easily without the hating ass countries. I think coogler just saved cinema and movies. This will be the blueprint. Give black people what they want and theyvwill support it. Going 2 or 3 times.
I started out buying tickets everyday with my regal pass. For the past 2 weeks I've been using my regal pass daily to buy tickets for Kerry Washington's Shadow Force movie instead. I'm just trying to do my part in helping black movies

Regal has to come out of pocket for it. They bet on people having the regal pass and not using it. I've been using it every single freaking day. I've seen Sinners times in j the theater, And though I have yet to see Shadow Force, I've been buying tickets for for the past 2 weeks
 
I started out buying tickets everyday with my regal pass. For the past 2 weeks I've been using my regal pass daily to buy tickets for Kerry Washington's Shadow Force movie instead. I'm just trying to do my part in helping black movies

Regal has to come out of pocket for it. They bet on people having the regal pass and not using it. I've been using it every single freaking day. I've seen Sinners times in j the theater, And though I have yet to see Shadow Force, I've been buying tickets for for the past 2 weeks
U a g big homie
 
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