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The more I think about this battle the more I realize how many missteps Drake took. I think homie is a brilliant hitmaker but I doubt he has many real friends in his circle. Or perhaps he does and they're just dumb.

One glaring misstep was hopping right out and saying Kendrick's wife's name. Kendrick tried to give him grace with EUPHORIA after PUSH UPS. Particularly in the Teddy P portion of the song.

You're movin' just like a degenerate, every antic is feelin' distasteful
I calculate you're not as calculated, I can even predict your angle
Fabricatin' stories on the family front 'cause you heard Mr. Morale
A pathetic master manipulator, I can smell the tales on you now

He let him know I know what you're gonna say, and I know where you got that info. If you've listened to MR. MORALE, Drake hasn't said anything that Kendrick didn't already confess. Sadly, Drake didn't hear the confessions properly. With the exception of the Dave Free stuff, everything he said about Kendrick was on MOTHER I SOBER. He misinterpreted the line about Kendrick being molested and why that was even in the song in the first place. He also may have misinterpreted the line about abuse:

Spirit guide whispered in my ear, tell me that she sees me
"Did he touch you?" I said "No" again, still they didn't believe me
Mother's brother said he got revenge for my mother's face
Black and blue, the image of my queen that I can't erase
'Til this day can't look her in the eyes, pain is taking over
Blame myself, you never felt guilt 'til you felt it sober

This reads like it was his mother who was beaten, not Whitney. That verse wasn't even about his wife. But I suppose the connection can be that trauma repeats itself (since that was the theme of the song). So perhaps there's room for interpretation, but that's not what was said. Maybe Drake has proof otherwise?

Kendrick used MOTHER I SOBER to free himself, his family, ancestors, and kids of trauma, guilt, and grief. Drake misinterpreting that shows he's really NOT LIKE US.
 
Nah this is revisionist history.

Ja still went platinum and then gold in the middle of all of that.

Ja and Murder Inc. fell off because people were tiring of the fake tough, wanna be Pac/Suge/Death Row shit they got on. The nigga Ja literally got on the radio and referred to himself as the 2nd coming of Pac.

50 was in the perfect place with the perfect team and back story of beefing with and being shot by their associates to take advantage.
They fell off because they were the opp of Fif, Em and Dre. And they were the hottest shit in the game at the time. And they were opposite of third love ballads Ja and Inc were making. Everyone has its time. Fif had his. You don’t stay on top forever.
 
The more I think about this battle the more I realize how many missteps Drake took. I think homie is a brilliant hitmaker but I doubt he has many real friends in his circle. Or perhaps he does and they're just dumb.

One glaring misstep was hopping right out and saying Kendrick's wife's name. Kendrick tried to give him grace with EUPHORIA after PUSH UPS. Particularly in the Teddy P portion of the song.



He let him know I know what you're gonna say, and I know where you got that info. If you've listened to MR. MORALE, Drake hasn't said anything that Kendrick didn't already confess. Sadly, Drake didn't hear the confessions properly. With the exception of the Dave Free stuff, everything he said about Kendrick was on MOTHER I SOBER. He misinterpreted the line about Kendrick being molested and why that was even in the song in the first place. He also may have misinterpreted the line about abuse:



This reads like it was his mother who was beaten, not Whitney. That verse wasn't even about his wife. But I suppose the connection can be that trauma repeats itself (since that was the theme of the song). So perhaps there's room for interpretation, but that's not what was said. Maybe Drake has proof otherwise?

Kendrick used MOTHER I SOBER to free himself, his family, ancestors, and kids of trauma, guilt, and grief. Drake misinterpreting that shows he's really NOT LIKE US.
There was nothing saving Drake from this assault. Pusha did the same shit. Push and Dot handled Drake with calculation. He was getting them records whether he mentioned their wives or not. It was invitable. I suspect Drakes missteps came something outside of this rap shit. It seems like no one rocks with him or if they do at a distance.
 
Question:

When it's all said and done, will Not Like Us have the same legacy as Hit 'Em Up??

It's a bit soon to ask I know, but a year or 2 from now, what do you think?

@largebillsonlyplease you definitely need to weigh in here

@TheFuser @playahaitian @REDLINE you guys too

I think so. HIT EM UP was just vicious. NOT LIKE US is an anthem for the West Coast, but also people who are tired of the bullshit in hip hop. It's feels like it has the energy of HIT EM UP and CALIFORNIA LOVE in one song. It's a track everyone will remember where they were when they first heard it.
 
I did read somewhere that there was a big shot caller from Hell's Angels that lived in Drake's neighborhood...

And now people are starting to poke holes in Chris Alvarez's story, saying the timeline of events doesn't line up. Some chic named Tisa Tells is in full on tinfoil hat mode... and that ebony prince dude is telling her she's on the right path.

I'm so sick of this cryptic tweeting... like my papa used to say, shit or get off the pot.


My cousin made the mistake of getting into it with some Hell’s Angels way back in the day while drinking at the bar with a friend.

Not sure what the fuck he was thinking but it was around ‘99 - ‘02 so he was in his early-20s.

They roughed him up a bit and told his larger friend basically - “get him out of here now, or we’ll kill him”

Message heard loud and clear. Damn.
 
There was nothing saving Drake from this assault. Pusha did the same shit. Push and Dot handled Drake with calculation. He was getting them records whether he mentioned their wives or not. It was invitable. I suspect Drakes missteps came something outside of this rap shit. It seems like no one rocks with him or if they do at a distance.

I think the battle was gonna happen regardless. But Kendrick warned him to keep it cute. He said this could be a "friendly fade." Both EUPHORIA and 6:16 IN LA were actually trying to show Drake some grace (or as much grace as one can show in a battle).

"Don't tell no lies 'bout me.
I won't tell no truths 'bout you."
 
I think the battle was gonna happen regardless. But Kendrick warned him to keep it cute. He said this could be a "friendly fade." Both EUPHORIA and 6:16 IN LA were actually trying to show Drake some grace (or as much grace as one can show in a battle).

"Don't tell no lies 'bout me.
I won't tell no truths 'bout you."

^^^
Facts
 
I think the battle was gonna happen regardless. But Kendrick warned him to keep it cute. He said this could be a "friendly fade." Both EUPHORIA and 6:16 IN LA were actually trying to show Drake some grace (or as much grace as one can show in a battle).

"Don't tell no lies 'bout me.
I won't tell no truths 'bout you."
While I think you’re right….it’s like telling MJ don’t shoot that jump shot lol. Shooters shoot.

I’m of the belief we was always getting them. These records sounded like built up frustration over the years. Drake had no where to go. It’s one thing when Pusha kills him….hip hop audience will take notice. When it’s Dot? The world takes notice and you become a meme.
 
While I think you’re right….it’s like telling MJ don’t shoot that jump shot lol. Shooters shoot.

I’m of the belief we was always getting them. These records sounded like built up frustration over the years. Drake had no where to go. It’s one thing when Pusha kills him….hip hop audience will take notice. When it’s Dot? The world takes notice and you become a meme.

Well said.
 
The more I think about this battle the more I realize how many missteps Drake took. I think homie is a brilliant hitmaker but I doubt he has many real friends in his circle. Or perhaps he does and they're just dumb.

One glaring misstep was hopping right out and saying Kendrick's wife's name. Kendrick tried to give him grace with EUPHORIA after PUSH UPS. Particularly in the Teddy P portion of the song.



He let him know I know what you're gonna say, and I know where you got that info. If you've listened to MR. MORALE, Drake hasn't said anything that Kendrick didn't already confess. Sadly, Drake didn't hear the confessions properly. With the exception of the Dave Free stuff, everything he said about Kendrick was on MOTHER I SOBER. He misinterpreted the line about Kendrick being molested and why that was even in the song in the first place. He also may have misinterpreted the line about abuse:



This reads like it was his mother who was beaten, not Whitney. That verse wasn't even about his wife. But I suppose the connection can be that trauma repeats itself (since that was the theme of the song). So perhaps there's room for interpretation, but that's not what was said. Maybe Drake has proof otherwise?

Kendrick used MOTHER I SOBER to free himself, his family, ancestors, and kids of trauma, guilt, and grief. Drake misinterpreting that shows he's really NOT LIKE US.
Drakes only real industry friend was Noah Shebib and he shit on him Too. All the niggas he surrounds himself with don’t like him and use him to be around fame and money. This guy grew up with zero Black people. All his childhood friends are cac Jews. He starts rapping and all of a sudden he’s hanging out with P Reign and a bunch of criminals from Toronto . He’s a fool
 
My cousin made the mistake of getting into it with some Hell’s Angels way back in the day while drinking at the bar with a friend.

Not sure what the fuck he was thinking but it was around ‘99 - ‘02 so he was in his early-20s.

They roughed him up a bit and told his larger friend basically - “get him out of here now, or we’ll kill him”

Message heard loud and clear. Damn.
My pops lives in San Diego and rode his bike cross country from there to Houston some years back... he got into it with a H.A. member while out at dinner in El Paso,TX... he thought it was over and done with but when he left he noticed there were 2 or 3 more there and all looking in his direction... he managed to slip away from them somehow and get to his hotel room.

He says he drove his bike into the room, backed it up against the door placed the couch and a few other things to cover the window, then slept in the far corner of the room facing the door in a rolling desk chair with both his guns in his lap.

All throughout the night he told me he could hear them fuckers riding up and down the street... in the area, in the parking lot, everywhere... he just knew they were looking for him.

The next morning when it was time to checkout he said he didn't even bother going to the office he drove his bike out from the room made a beeline to the highway and drove about a hunnid all the way to San Antonio...
 
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I never considered the Pac Drake comparison till just now

Drake never truly felt loved accepted and embraced by his people like Pac.

Pac was able to accepted as a conflicted individual. Love women but still call them bitch and hoes. Thug intellectual revolutionary gang banger poet bully.

I dint think ANYONE ELSE can ever be ALLOWED to exist in all those spaces anymore.

And I think Drake foolishly thought he could kinda be the Rock of rap.

Without ever paying that black tax for REAL.
Pac was also black and Aubrey is well….
 
I think so. HIT EM UP was just vicious. NOT LIKE US is an anthem for the West Coast, but also people who are tired of the bullshit in hip hop. It's feels like it has the energy of HIT EM UP and CALIFORNIA LOVE in one song. It's a track everyone will remember where they were when they first heard it.
If that's the case then Drake is done... he'll have a few more hits but the nigga is a meme now... he will never be respected in the culture again....
Drake will go to the Caribbean and make more jawns with Popcaan like this. He’s going to go more international to wash this sonning out his mouth.



If he does that he'll just feed further into the culture vulture narrative that Kendrick laid out. If he goes that route, cool... but it'll push him further away from the acceptance he seems to want.
 


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Ebro says Toronto has "no sound"?​


Ok, I just watched the clip...he has a fair point. Our hip hop scene is old, started from the early early 80's with Maestro, Michie Mee, Dream warriors etc. but there's a few reasons why we haven't had a specific unifying sound until recently, but mainly it's because record labels wouldn't really back canadian artists unless they could cross over or get some buzz in America so most acts were forced to work with American producers or craft a sound that could crossover.

Because of our cultural mosaic you could identify a Toronto rapper through the slang and dialect but not the beats....because we're only an 8 hour drive away from NYC our sound leaned more towards East Coast boom bap in the 90's....like that Mathematik track, i posted up top..

"So far gone" "House of Balloons" etc. really cemented a certain Toronto sound but it's new and developed at a time when there are way more "open borders" as far as musical exportation in the present day due to the internet and shit. If we had crafted our specific sound in the early 90's like most other regions -(G Funk, bounce music, Miami Bass etc.) or so it would be more cemented and more easily identifiable
 
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Who's music do you think aged better? Was just wondering to myself a couple days ago. Had Spotify on playing some random shit an a Ja song came on. Thinking to myself "I'm more prone to listen to a Ja track these days than a 50 song" when it was the complete opposite back in the day.

Ja was always a superior rapper to 50.

I mean LOL



This! Dude can literally pass for being Latino and even Arab, so his music career is far from being done. Gunna and 6ix9ine weren't impacted by that "snitching" shit that hit them. Most women don't care. Reality is that losing a "hip-hop battle" or losing "streed cred" isn't really impactful to any rappers these days. All Drake needs is another club hit for the summer and he'll be fine.

Drakes only real industry friend was Noah Shebib and he shit on him Too. All the niggas he surrounds himself with don’t like him and use him to be around fame and money. This guy grew up with zero Black people. All his childhood friends are cac Jews. He starts rapping and all of a sudden he’s hanging out with P Reign and a bunch of criminals from Toronto . He’s a fool

How did he shit on 40?
 
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