Alvarez alluded to this situation to be bigger than what we think. Gonna be another busy week.
THE WRESTLING THREAD: BROCK LESNAR HAS ENTERED THE CHAT!!!
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Alvarez alluded to this situation to be bigger than what we think. Gonna be another busy week.
Shessh
On another note this young lady (21 years old) passed away in a car crash. I never watched this particular Joshi promotion but it's always sad when one goes so young.
C'mon Max you know better than this. Really dumb!
This real or some AI shit?
Bro, you make all great points. Don't waste your time going back and forth with dude. He's delusional.
He keeps hate-watching WWE and praying they change their whole presentation to some Stardom type shit.
Then he comes on a porn board thinking higher ups in WWE will actually listen to him and his ideas. LOL
Even if he's barking the same stuff on Twitter/X, WWE could care less.
WWE may have had a bad a week from a PR perspective, but TKO stock is actually UP over the past week.
So all the bad press and bitching from the past week about Cody/Rock/Roman from a vocal mob on Twitter/X has had no effect on business, which is all WWE cares about at the end of the day.
To me this isn't any worse than the shit he says on TV. What am I missing?
You're right, it isn't any worse.
Just more fake outrage from the "Morality Police" on Twitter/X who feel like it's their job to gatekeep the wrestling business.
WWE had a shitty week from a PR standpoint with the whole Vince thing, but just last week we were talking about their Netflix deal and Rock getting on the board with TKO.
I'm not crazy about the Rock/Roman/Cody story, but have you seen a comparison of social media engagement between Rock and Cody, like the amount of followers they have on Twitter and Instagram? Here's a hint, Rock BLOWS away Cody in the followers and reach department.
Although I'm not excited with what happened last week, I understand.
TKO is winning even when they lose (Vince story.)
I'm not crazy about Rock vs. Roman taking the place of Cody vs. Roman either.
I was hoping they could have had the Rock vs. Roman match at Elimination Chamber and still have the Cody vs. Roman match at WM.
Or they could have had Rock as the special guest referee during the match.
And I think Cody vs. Roman was the plan until CM Punk got injured and Brock was written out of WWE moving forward.
WWE had to call an audible and pivot from their original plan and so they feel this is the best substitute for now.
Again, not crazy about it, but I get it from a business perspective.
Some fans will be upset now, but we're still 2 months away from WM and a lot can happen until then.
And I can guarantee a lot of these fans that are upset now will switch up and look forward to Rock vs. Roman when the time comes.
I still think there will be some stipulation where we still get Cody and Roman at WrestleMania....Roman probably does double duty, main events night one with Rock and then night two against Cody.
WWE playing chess, while all the marks are playing tiddlywinks LOL
So WWE keeps winning even when they're losing? You cats will "defend" this company through their worse actions! Hogan goes on a racists rant about a black dude his daughter is dating. Uses the excuse that he had heard the word all his life, been called it, by other black people. But used a hard R when referring to the dude. WWE keeps bringing him back. The owner is more sleazy than his character on TV and THAT is saying something. The only reason that he didn't go that far or hasn't continued that character is due to rating and financial motivations. This blind loyalty of "WWE playing chess while everybody else is playing <insert childlike game>" is pretty fcuked up!
I get separating the art from the artist, but Jesus, the cheerleading is worse than the delusions of the other side that ya'll complain about!!!
I get separating the art from the artist, but Jesus, the cheerleading is worse than the delusions of the other side that ya'll complain about!!!
I want to watch TNA but don't even know where to find them and I'm too lazy to search for a stream.
Who's cheerleading? Can you not think critically?
I've only seen cats approach this with an understanding of WWE making decisions that make business sense.
Yes, they are winning despite of having a shitty week after their Netflix announcement.
A week ago, all wrestling heads were discussing the Vince McMahon case.
This past weekend, the only thing these same wrestling heads discussed was the Rock/Roman/Cody segment.
And as @XXXplosive mentioned, their stock is up. That is the definition of winning while losing, given the circumstances.
I'm just stating facts when I say the TKO stock has gone up despite all the recent controversies.
If that gets you triggered into a rant about Hogan, then that's on you.
Being a member of the "Morality Police" in wrestling (an industry known to be sleazy with a history of known racists, drunks, drug users, steroid abuser, wife beaters, etc.) is kinda laughable to me.
You really think all your favorite Japanese wrestlers don't hold prejudiced views towards black people? LOL
Why yes, yes I can think critically. Can you point to a time that I wasn't?
Yep, a billion dollar company is still able to endure and financially have a good week despite sex trafficking allegations. The same billion dollar company that loves to use sambo-like personas (words I believe you used for New Day) for their black characters. Who would employ rapists, racists even murderers. The same company that has no problem culture vulturing the very best of our culture for everyone that isn't Black....Did anyone really expect THIS would bring the WWE down? A majority of their fan base don't care about anything I just mentioned and will overlook all of what I said as long as the next Great White Hope gets the belt.
That is a wrestling heads job. New news breaks, their job is to cover it...that's what News does. New developments break with Vince they'll talk about that again. Something happens with Rock/Roman/Cody again, guess what? They'll talk about that too. You aren't gonna get much traction if you only talk about one story as other stories occur.
Losing makes it seem like something was taken away. Netflix deal, former wrestlers returning, TKO deal, stock on the rise, Rock becoming apart of the board. They lost Vince... A piece of shyt octogenarian. Pretty sure this isn't a "loss"! If anything this is forced retirement! Or maybe we just have different definitions of loss. But I am interested in what YOU think they loss.
Exactly what I was thinking…..but people want to panic lol.
What? Brother do you have me confused with @Mastermind2002? When have I gone on about Japanese wrestlers? Did I bring up you and TKO stock? Did you read my post or just stopped at my Hogan "rant"?
Now I did bring up the "playing chess..." line and at the time I posted I didn't know exactly who posted it, just that I had read on this page. So not so much Morality Police (although I hear their benefits package is OUTSTANDING!) I can't bring myself to cheer their successes. Not on some hatred shyt, all these pluses for WWE good for them, but this is STILL a piece of shyt company.Also I have been critical of NJPW and their fanbase when MVP was talking about getting groped by dudes when he was in NJPW.
Not sure what you’re talking about. I don’t see anyone cheerleading WWE just not dick riding anything the opposite of it.
Not only that but Vince and Hulk are so far removed from WWE lol…when the last time you seen Hogan in WWE? And if anything that was Vince bringing him back.
When people say WWE wins even when they lose it’s facts. This ain’t no gossip rag shit WWE stock has gone up since the merger. It may hurt to hear but it’s facts.
Your claim of cats defending WWE while we point out facts (their business decisions) is an example of you choosing not to think critically and instead think with your bias.
Again, see above. A lot of us "WWE fans" in this board have called WWE out for a lot of their treatment of Black wrestlers. I've been saying for years that the New Day shit is shucking and jiving. Yet when I also call the shit Prince Nana does on AEW as shucking and jiving too, some put on their AEW capes and defend it.
And WWE's job is to make sure their stockholders are happy and they control the narrative of the news. Again, WWE did what was best for their business by making wresting and main steam journalist turn their attention to Rock/Cody/Roman and away from the ugly Vince sex trafficking story. Can you blame WWE for wanting to do this?
They lost a lot of public trust yet continued to gain in viewership, sales and stock prices. Again, winning while losing.
Fuck Cody, dude has lost 3 singles matches since he's been back from the pec injury. No one cries about him being shoved down our throats like Roman. This dude is beating everyone, clean. Fuck outta here. They've made him superhero status, he can miss this Mania main event. We've been wanting this Rock/Roman match for years. Roman story ain't over for you to finish yours.
If you pull back the curtain on pretty much any large corporation whether it's Amazon, Google, NFL, etc. you're going to see a lot of shitty things you wish you hadn't known about. That's just the nature of Big Business.What? Brother do you have me confused with @Mastermind2002? When have I gone on about Japanese wrestlers? Did I bring up you and TKO stock? Did you read my post or just stopped at my Hogan "rant"?
Also I have been critical of NJPW and their fanbase when MVP was talking about getting groped by dudes when he was in NJPW.
Every other wrestling promotion has their dirt too, just not on the level of the WWE because they're not as large and have not been around as long.
But I get it, when you hate a company and everything they stand for your viewpoint of that company will be skewed.
I'm kind of the same way when it comes to Apple and how they do business. LOL
Again, if you're looking to be chief of the Morality Police then maybe the wrestling business ain't for you.
"Defend" was in quotes, so you're taking it in a literal sense. I was referring to the "winning while losing" line. They aren't losing anything My "bias" is based on fact. They are a piece of shyt company.
Well, you and I are having a conversation. Don't bring others into this. If you've seen my post defending AEW, call me out! You're not going to find that. Sure earlier on BEFORE they showed their hand, but I have been equally critical of AEW, but SURPRISE you don't reply to those posts. So do you keep your WWE bias in check? Now, you'll say that you're not a fan of AEW, matter of fact you go out of your way to troll AEW fans here. But your biases are in check though.
Dude! if you think they lost public trust, you're the delusional one here! Apologies, because maybe I don't know what you mean by public trust...cause viewership is not down. Parents still take their kids to their shows. Women aren't leaving en masse in light of these allegations. If you would be so kind what do you mean by public trust and examples of that trust being lost?
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Rock vs Roman was always the plan as I expected. The match was suppose to happen last year, but Cody was the backup. Now the match is workable for Rock they are doing it this year.
The part with Cody winning Rumble is confusing though unless Punk was suppose to win.
The part with Cody winning Rumble is confusing though unless Punk was suppose to win.
Nothing adds up to say it was all pre planned. Vince's lawsuit surely has had something to do with their pivot. Maybe the Rock wasn't sure his schedule was gonna be free or who knows. If the Rock can't get into decent enough ring shape (dude was blown up in the little bit against Jinder) then adding Cody into the fold will probably be the best outcome even if you don't factor in the story.