Mos Def on Drake: “It’s……‘mall’……music”

[ViCiouS]

WE have sub-genres/categories. The industry not so much.

we can talk about sales or art but not both

creative vs commercial

musicians including producers / arraigners / composers songwriters have always establish the genres and their sub genres

the reason some artists are quick to diminish the "crossover" artist as commercial or sell out

Rolling Stone will cover ALL genres of Rock (also the occasional rapper) The Source not so much.

Rolling Stone also reports on politics finance and does investigative reporting
Source aimed at a very select portion of hip hop music and never sought to approach the other pillars of hiphop nor the underground / grassroots music outside nyc

hip hop does not line up well with rock - it would be better to draw comps to jazz

 

[MistaPhantastic]

Pitbull and Florida are Pop. Nelly is R&B.

Nelly is not R&B. Nelly is a rapper.
If you ain't singing; you ain't R&B.

 

[playahaitian]

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[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Nelly is not R&B. Nelly is a rapper.
If you ain't singing; you ain't R&B.

It ain’t Rap. Nelly is not Rap.

 

[Darkness's]

Ok buddy

 

[Supersav]

 

[Da Backshot Champ]

Drake Takes Shot At Yasiin Bey Over Alleged Drug-Fueled Marriage

Drake has dissed Yasiin Bey over his alleged drug-fueled marriage after a story told by Kofi 'Friday' Carmichael about him being a 'waste yute.'

hiphopdx.com

 

[Dr. Truth]

Drake Takes Shot At Yasiin Bey Over Alleged Drug-Fueled Marriage

Drake has dissed Yasiin Bey over his alleged drug-fueled marriage after a story told by Kofi 'Friday' Carmichael about him being a 'waste yute.'

hiphopdx.com

He does be slurring his words like a dope fiend

 

[cashwhisperer]

Why don't niggas wanna be pop? They obviously are. Why not embrace that shit instead of trying to hold on to the hip-hop crown?

 

[playahaitian]

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[playahaitian]

Why don't niggas wanna be pop? They obviously are. Why not embrace that shit instead of trying to hold on to the hip-hop crown?

can't you be both?

 

[playahaitian]

@ViCiouS @REDLINE

I tried to warn Yasiin... he didn't want do this with the boy.

Not only cause drake got a hive but because his resume has a lot if red marks and he has a LOT in common with Aubrey

 

[playahaitian]

Runway music?

 

[cashwhisperer]

can't you be both?

of course. But it's Drake.....I mean......

 

[Dr. Truth]

Runway music?

Boring

 

[ViCiouS]

@ViCiouS @REDLINE

I tried to warn Yasiin... he didn't want do this with the boy.

Not only cause drake got a hive but because his resume has a lot if red marks and he has a LOT in common with Aubrey

get ya weight up man - Brooklyn over everything (except Queens and sometimes uptown...)!!!!

if it wasn't for the Caribbean them boys would have no soul, no real food or beauty

 

[playahaitian]

get ya weight up man - Brooklyn over everything (except Queens and sometimes uptown...)!!!!

if it wasn't for the Caribbean them boys would have no soul, no real food or beauty

Truth bars

The Planet bars

Nkiru books bars

 

[playahaitian]

get ya weight up man - Brooklyn over everything (except Queens and sometimes uptown...)!!!!

if it wasn't for the Caribbean them boys would have no soul, no real food or beauty

I really wish Yasiin had just laughed the question off.

Sidebar...

Dudes acting like Fka Mos ain't BEEN talking like this since day one.

 

[ViCiouS]

I really wish Yasiin had just laughed the question off.

Sidebar...

Dudes acting like Fka Mos ain't BEEN talking like this since day one.

sometimes truth needs to be spoken - shout outs to Mark Lamont Hill
Bey said a lot of real shit in that sit down - but only a snippet of the bullshit goes viral - even that 1 minute longer and his point would have had context

 

[playahaitian]

sometimes truth needs to be spoken - shout outs to Mark Lamont Hill
Bey said a lot of real shit in that sit down - but only a snippet of the bullshit goes viral - even that 1 minute longer and his point would have had context

/thread

Vicious aka the Finisher

 

[playahaitian]

sometimes truth needs to be spoken - shout outs to Mark Lamont Hill
Bey said a lot of real shit in that sit down - but only a snippet of the bullshit goes viral - even that 1 minute longer and his point would have had context

 

[ViCiouS]

Israel Declares War After Hamas Attacks

:colin: There you go Pakistan, you're not weak. Tell Iran to get the foh Lite'em UP!!! :yes:

www.bgol.us

 

[tallblacknyc]

At what point did rap switch to catering to women

When nigs found out they could make hundreds of thousands or more doing stripclub tours.. paid features, getting their music played to a large demographic.. if they got a hit in the club they were gonna get booked multiple times a yr in that club and there was a shitload of clubs in each states and diff states. Caching

 

[REDLINE]

At what point did rap switch to catering to women

When men stopped buying music..

But who are all of these rappers catering to women?

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

When men stopped buying music..

But who are all of these rappers catering to women?

Black women never bought the music.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

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Apple Music all over the screen.

 

[playahaitian]

At what point did rap switch to catering to women

the biggest first rap record was for the clubs.

When did that ever stop?


Music of ANY genre is women FIRST

 

[Aww Skeet Skeet!]

Is this your King!?!? Sus. Ex sent me this.

 

[Dr. Truth]

Is this your King!?!? Sus. Ex sent me this.

GOAT

 

[REDLINE]

Runway music?

So Mos makes us look at clothes and Drake makes us buy them?

 

[DJCandle]

I love that everytime this whack ass Canadian entertainers name comes up, it’s about his fraudulence. I been telling yaw to stop praising this feminine ass, period having bitch.

At 37 years old he shoulda been garnered the respect of his peers, yet he’s still being called out DAILY.

NOBODY in hip hop with credibility respects this man.

Never have, never will. Love that.

 

[playahaitian]

So Mos makes us look at clothes and Drake makes us buy them?

I hope Yasiin don't go in a mall anytime soon cause Banana Republic definitely playing this



And this at forever 21

 

[D'Evils]

 

[playahaitian]

 

[Lexx Diamond]

When nigs found out they could make hundreds of thousands or more doing stripclub tours.. paid features, getting their music played to a large demographic.. if they got a hit in the club they were gonna get booked multiple times a yr in that club and there was a shitload of clubs in each states and diff states. Caching

And YouTube. Let's not forget the world wide coverage and marketability options YouTube afforded. Long gone are the days of paying off radio station disc jockeys. Nowadays and for years, months and days you can put your material out on YouTube and get rich. Remember Gangnam Style and so many others who we have seen do it over the last decade alone.

The internet is fire. Voice over IP and cell phones killed long distance calls. I remember when it was long distance to call Mt. Kisko, NY from Mt. Vernon, NY. It's the technology that lets us be seen all over the world. That's what changed everything. Like heaux on IG and Twitter that stay getting flown out and fucked. 40 years ago we had the "fucking" personals and the Pina Colada to tell us make sure you're not hooking up with you wife. Ole Lite FM putting folks on to game.