Israel Declares War After Hamas Attacks. UPDATE: Israel Ends Ceasefire, Begins Bombing Gaza

That is a serious commitment when they used to go into a building strapped down with explosives and blow up. They know they are going to die but they want freedom so bad that they will allow themselves to die just to take some devils with them.
We as blacks have got to want freedom more than anything else, more than money, more than fame, when we say give me freedom or give me death. But a lot of us actually think we have freedom. Some think whites are God and felt when we begged them for freedom that they actually gave it to us. It is something that a man does not have to beg another man for. Even if we thought that these devils had the power to give us freedom. But just like Jonestown they seduce you in by making you feel that you have freedom and there is no reason why you would want change. It is like using your own desire against you.
Self control and a knowledge of self is weapons against the enemies of truth.
You go ahead and strap a bomb to yourself fool. There are more than one way to gain freedom and it didn't involve dying. You could leave america and find a country that has more rights and freedoms than america
 


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The article from the Sadat center was wild to me when it was first published a few years back. I knew about the Gulf Arab/everybody else divide but reading shit like this for the first time was really eye opening then:

In Israel and in much of the Western world, we tend to think the Arab world is united in its support for the Palestinians—that it wants nothing more than to solve the Palestinian problem by giving them a state, and that all Arabs and Muslims love the Palestinians and hate Israel. This is a simplistic and incomplete view. While it is true that many, perhaps even the majority, of Arabs and Muslims hate Israel, there are a good many who hate the Palestinians just as much.

The answer to this question is complex. It is a function of Middle Eastern culture that neither Israelis nor most Westerners fully understand or recognize.

 
Growing up, my father worked for the UN, which sent him all across the globe. He lived in Israel for 4 years and various places through in the Middle East including Syria & Jordan. I can’t speak on Syria and Jordan, as I’ve only visited one of those places, but he used to always tell me that Palestine are alone in this conflict. That they were surrounded by the enemy, literally. This was in the early 80’s. I didn’t know it at the time but later on I realized he was telling me that Arabs don't fuck with them enough to lend a hand.

Fast forward to adulthood, while I can’t speak on Syria & Jordan, I can DEFINITELY speak on Egypt. I brought up the conflict once at a restaurant as Israel were playing Jordan in a friendly match, and I almost wished I hadn’t. My thinking was that, “why can’t a country as fully equipped as Egypt, or Saudi Arabia to the right, stand up for Palestine and help them in their time of need? You know, as Muslim brotherhood…” The entire room turned to us and got in on the discourse. The general consensus in the room was that this entire conflict was actually Palestinian’s fault and that they don’t believe they want or care for peace. :eek2: I was floored cause you wanna talk about victim shaming! That they’re happy to be victims to Israel and are playing martyr to the rest of the world. I immediately thought of my pops at that time and knew he was right.

While it may feel anecdotal, I received this same viewpoint in other parts of Egypt, both lower and upper and a few other times, it came from Jordanian & Saudi nationals themselves. The vibe I get which pertains to Palestinians is that of scorn, where they view them as the “you got, got..” types, and if you know a little about Islamic culture, that’s a massive no no.

While of course, it’s not ALL Arabs that hate them across the board, there is a pretty large underlying resentment towards Palestinians for not doing what they need to do and allowing Israel to stick it up their backsides. That scorn is enough to make many Arabs turn a blind eye in their personal lives.

Publicly, en masse, looks a bit different.

One of the worst things to experience, in Arab eyes, is to be cheated, fooled, or taken advantage of. When someone attempts to cheat an Arab—and even more so, if that person succeeds—the Arab is overcome by furious anger, even if the person who did the cheating was his own cousin. He will call on his brother to take revenge on that cousin, in line with the Arab adage: “My brother and I against my cousin—and my brother, my cousin, and I against a stranger.”

 
Palestinians make up a large number of the lower class workers in Jordan so they choose to exploit them rather than closing their border. Egyptians have closed their borders and the Palestinians that are there are mostly illegal migrants. They have a terrible word for Palestinians in Egyptian Arabic which I wont repeat on this forum.

Syria is a failed state with no borders. Saudis barely take Palestinians in. Yemen is a failed poor state being bombed by Us and Saudis. Qatar houses Hamas leadership, and even then only takes in relatively few Palestinians.

:yes: Qatar has the resourses to host a world cup and buy PSG but not the resources for the Palestinians. Honduras host 150k more than Qatar. Saudi is preparing a bid to host the world cup and just had the largest hajj in history (2.5MM) but somehow has around 10% more Palestinians than the US. :smh:How this makes sense to people on here I will never understand.
 
You go ahead and strap a bomb to yourself fool. There are more than one way to gain freedom and it didn't involve dying. You could leave america and find a country that has more rights and freedoms than america
You are talking about the problem has to be solved within, that is where it started. But as far as leaving America, we got to get it together here before we take it anywhere. Originally the earth belonged to us but we were born with white devils controlling it.
Some people think this attack was really planned by Israel to step up their killing and ownership of the middle east. I do not know if there is any truth to it. But this land and resources being owned and controlled by white devils comes from murder and deceit. We know this and become part of learning how to keep their empire going. Here in America that is all we are about.
 
And a nigga can’t stop watching the NFL.
I have never been under that influence. But making money by any means necessary without selling my soul. This attack on Israel does have me puzzled because some believe Israel planned it to step up their killing and ownership of that land. I am wondering if America has been working on a plan to step up their murder. Covid was no accident. A lot of things that should be common knowledge is really secret and confused.
 

I see what they did there(the first paragraph) :roflmao2:
I will temporarily save this ho if she needs a place to sleep :clarkkent:
 
Truth be told why are we suppose to give a fuck about them killing each other, we got our own issues here to take care of. We are always the 1st country to help everyone else but are quick to cut off help and aid for people in our own country.
 
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He's never been over here so he cant speak on it, but I can.

Palestinians are treated like Dog shit in Amman. They hold no rights, and the king deports them out for any small infraction.

The only reason there are so many there was because it was going to be Palestine and they fled into the borders. Make no mistake of it though. They are treated like crap in the middle east. Barely above the Sudanese.

Not been to East Africa but I have actually been to MENA several times which is why I posted what I posted originally on this issue. :lol: BGOL always incorrectly assumes that anybody anti jew/cac is pro Us which is usually incorrect especially in that part of the world. You are one of the few posters who can speak from experience about the treatment of the "others" in these countries/regions. From my own personal experience, there is a hierarchy with the Gulf Arabs at the top and the others fitting in where they get in. Lebanese etc. way better than "Maghrebi" and all way better than south asian muslims (Pakistani etc.). ALL of those by a long distance way better than "African" muslims (Sudanese/Eritrean/Ethiopian/especially Nigerian/Ivorian etc.). Maghrebi/North African aren't African btw. :smh::lol:

Libya strongly supports the Palestinians but also operates slave markets today:
Tunisians did this at the world cup in support of the Palestinians:

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They also elected the man who said this earlier this year:
“The undeclared goal of the successive waves of illegal immigration is to consider Tunisia a purely African country that has no affiliation to the Arab and Islamic nations,” Saied said, adding that the influx of irregular migrants must quickly be ended.

It led to round-ups of Black sub-Saharan Africans, their eviction from rented properties, and African countries mobilising to repatriate their citizens.

And now, with reports of mobs forcing their way into the homes of Black migrants and refugees, attacking occupants with fists, clubs and machetes, Tunisia’s own native black population, long used to the bigotry that exists in many parts of their own society, are braced for the assault.

 
It’s interesting how many of the progressive news analysis YouTube channels - like ALL of TYT’s channels, David Pakman, and BTC have gone radio silent on this ongoing story. This, especially when mainstream news is giving it significant coverage.

Out of the progressives, Democracy Now! is the only outlier I’ve seen so far.
I think most of them are usually quiet over the weekend. Like, I have been waiting for Democracy Now’s coverage Monday morning. I think it makes sense to reassess on this front tomorrow.
No doubt.


Good point about weekend quiet. But each HAS posted over the weekend and we are halfway through the day now.

That's what I was saying. Democracy Now was the only progressive network on YouTube that I'd seen report or comment on it since when I'd made my post.

If this continues, I'll surmise that they may not be in favor of Israel's war declaration but are choosing to remain silent rather than potentially offend and lose jewish support- which would be a damn shame. Just speak the truth.

I don't watch Pakman, not sure what BTC is.

But Young Turks covered it-- Surprisingly more both sidesy than Breaking Points-- Ana was out and the fill-in has family ties to Israel and was pretty emotional about it.



Guest host went so far as to call Cori Bush and Rashida Tlaib "ridiculous" for calling Israel an apartheid state so pretty disappointing there.

Cenk said he wouldn't use the word "at this juncture" because it is rubbing salt in the wound :rolleyes: but did acknowledge it as the reality.

 
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your deep ignorance of mid east history and current events has been amazing to witness
You too? You also think you have hidden knowledge nobody knows about? Nothing I’ve said is wrong. NOTHING how about instead of one liners you point out what is wrong about what was said
 
I saw that life, that bitch was cussing up a storm.
That was the same as when a tropical storm passes and the reporter out there standing in deep water acting like they are about to be blown out to sea. I hate this shit
 
This shit here is fake as fuck lol.
Elaborate, what's fake? Don't know or don't care about that dude credentials. But if you're implying what he's saying is fake, here's the vid of this dude stating he has a card being paid monthly from the UN







 
Elaborate, what's fake? Don't know or don't care about that dude credentials. But if you're implying what he's saying is fake, here's the vid of this dude stating he has a card being paid monthly from the UN









Haiti is a fucking shit hole, that scenario would only work in the reverse at this current juncture.

Didn't you post the Denon sperm doctor lady in the past?

You might want create a new account and reset your algorithm.
 
Palestinians make up a large number of the lower class workers in Jordan so they choose to exploit them rather than closing their border. Egyptians have closed their borders and the Palestinians that are there are mostly illegal migrants. They have a terrible word for Palestinians in Egyptian Arabic which I wont repeat on this forum.

Syria is a failed state with no borders. Saudis barely take Palestinians in. Yemen is a failed poor state being bombed by Us and Saudis. Qatar houses Hamas leadership, and even then only takes in relatively few Palestinians.

Can you elaborate? First of all, aren't half of the Jordanian people Palestinian in origin themselves? East Bankers? And what is the "terrible word for Palestinians in Egyptian Arabic"?

Growing up, my father worked for the UN, which sent him all across the globe. He lived in Israel for 4 years and various places through in the Middle East including Syria & Jordan. I can’t speak on Syria and Jordan, as I’ve only visited one of those places, but he used to always tell me that Palestine are alone in this conflict. That they were surrounded by the enemy, literally. This was in the early 80’s. I didn’t know it at the time but later on I realized he was telling me that Arabs don't fuck with them enough to lend a hand.

Fast forward to adulthood, while I can’t speak on Syria & Jordan, I can DEFINITELY speak on Egypt. I brought up the conflict once at a restaurant as Israel were playing Jordan in a friendly match, and I almost wished I hadn’t. My thinking was that, “why can’t a country as fully equipped as Egypt, or Saudi Arabia to the right, stand up for Palestine and help them in their time of need? You know, as Muslim brotherhood…” The entire room turned to us and got in on the discourse. The general consensus in the room was that this entire conflict was actually Palestinian’s fault and that they don’t believe they want or care for peace. :eek2: I was floored cause you wanna talk about victim shaming! That they’re happy to be victims to Israel and are playing martyr to the rest of the world. I immediately thought of my pops at that time and knew he was right.

While it may feel anecdotal, I received this same viewpoint in other parts of Egypt, both lower and upper and a few other times, it came from Jordanian & Saudi nationals themselves. The vibe I get which pertains to Palestinians is that of scorn, where they view them as the “you got, got..” types, and if you know a little about Islamic culture, that’s a massive no no.

While of course, it’s not ALL Arabs that hate them across the board, there is a pretty large underlying resentment towards Palestinians for not doing what they need to do and allowing Israel to stick it up their backsides. That scorn is enough to make many Arabs turn a blind eye in their personal lives.

Publicly, en masse, looks a bit different.

So Palestinians are basically the Black Americans of the Arab world!!

Not been to East Africa but I have actually been to MENA several times which is why I posted what I posted originally on this issue. :lol: BGOL always incorrectly assumes that anybody anti jew/cac is pro Us which is usually incorrect especially in that part of the world. You are one of the few posters who can speak from experience about the treatment of the "others" in these countries/regions. From my own personal experience, there is a hierarchy with the Gulf Arabs at the top and the others fitting in where they get in. Lebanese etc. way better than "Maghrebi" and all way better than south asian muslims (Pakistani etc.). ALL of those by a long distance way better than "African" muslims (Sudanese/Eritrean/Ethiopian/especially Nigerian/Ivorian etc.). Maghrebi/North African aren't African btw. :smh:

You and @TheFuser should talk, because he had a different experience in Palestine himself and has a thread about it.

Does anybody know what Ja Rule thinks? Has he chimed in?



Funny because Dave is Muslim. People might ask him what he thinks!
 
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