I feel this point like I said his proposed stance on them is some bullshit but I am hoping he can make a turn on that stance along with his position on cuba.....
I feel this point like I said his proposed stance on them is some bullshit but I am hoping he can make a turn on that stance along with his position on cuba.....
Proctect Israel? WTF?! You bust into my house with guns and shit and knock off my family then rape my wife then take my house and land which my family has owned for generation "lawfully by the laws you wrote" then I, having no other way to fight the establishment decided to sacrafice myself to try and protect other people and keep it from happening to them... and it's ISRAEL that needs protection from me?! GTF OUT HERE!! The world is on some backward shit you people need to get a clue!! By the way I supported everything Obama has stood for except this...oh well no candidate is perfect.
And that's exactly what happened to Native Americans here so when you leaving..
Exactly..
Feel free to use this.
he's a 'puppet' cause he said he'd help defend israel? u gotta explain that warped logic there
Im sayin you makin it seem like the war of words with Iran is why gas prices are going up--us being in Iraq is part of it, active terrorism is part of it along with conflict in the Arab world, a weak ass dollar against a strong Euro, Pound and Deutschmark, a weak US economy in debt to China, Bush's greedy homeboys and their price gouging and manipulation, beef with Chavez, all kinda shit.
Bottom line is the world is mutually cooperating to fuck with our wallets as a balance against our unilateral power and the display of force in Iraq.
I think beef with Iran and the Israel problem is only a small part of bigger issues, even Iraq is not the chief problem.
BushCo did some gangster shit and shook the whole world down, thats why oil is so high. Not cause we spittin at Iran and kissing Israel's ass.
Obama is unique to taking the closing of diplomatic channels off the table with nations we've bullied in the past like Cuba and Iran--the only reason we negotiate with North Korea is because we want to avoid a war with them (again, WWIII, smarten up). But historically we have embargoed and cut diplomatic channels as a first measure when it should be a last measure and Obama has publically taken heat for that forward thinking position.
Dog you gotta admit there's a lot of dope slinging and murder in New Orleans right now. Unless you young brothers get on some Panther - Deacon of Defense shit, you can't realistically expect niggas to prey on their own community forever without SOME sort of response.
What, you dont think there's folks in the community BEGGING for DEA? Niggas put so many bodies in the street, they undercut any sort of argument against throwing federal numbers at the gangsters in the NO.
Nah you are the problem. You make sloppy contradictory nonsensical arguments and fall to pieces when niggas call you on it. Why dont you let the smart niggas dialogue and maybe you can even step your game up one day and contribute something of worth, in time.
When am I leaving? I have to leave because I don't support Israel? How you sound?And that's exactly what happened to Native Americans here so when you leaving..
Exactly..
and oh by the way my ancestor were brought over here we had no part in the raping of the Native Americans as far as I knowNotice the informed get attacked.
While the uninformed do the attacking.
He co-signed the Patriot act so that says it all.
Meanwhile,who the fuck else will you vote for that has a shot in hell of winning?
The sad part is,people are on here slinging real knowledge,and people are countering it by calling them "faggots" and telling them to get the fuck outta here.U just can't build wit some ninjaz.
If he comes out and says anything negative about Israel,he mays well take his ass home and relax.
Till the mossad poisons him with laced Fried Chicken.
While the uninformed do the attacking.
He co-signed the Patriot act so that says it all.
Meanwhile,who the fuck else will you vote for that has a shot in hell of winning?
The sad part is,people are on here slinging real knowledge,and people are countering it by calling them "faggots" and telling them to get the fuck outta here.U just can't build wit some ninjaz.
If he comes out and says anything negative about Israel,he mays well take his ass home and relax.
Till the mossad poisons him with laced Fried Chicken.
Once again Obama is not unique in anyway when it comes to talking with nations we have problems with, Kucinich has actually gone to Syria, Lebanon, Jordan etc. talking with Officials and trying to actually get deals done.
This is hardly even worth responding to, if you can't see the damage the war on drugs has caused to its own citizens and especially black people then, your only proving my point. Even mildy changing certain aspects of the WOD would keep hundreds of thousands of blacks out of jail. And New orleans is the last place that needs a DEA.
There is nothing contradictory with what i said, not one thing. The only difference is that you are in the majority with a lot of co-signers where as im in the minority. Gene and a couple others understand and agree with what im saying, but you can only go back and forth with so many obama nut huggers for so long. "smart niggas dialogue"? there is no such thing, all i see in this thread are a bunch of obama dickriders holding each others hands and making the same dumb ass arguments, and accepting mediocrity and status quo just cause they don't like it when there candidate is fairly criticized.
Lebanon and Jordan are not enemies, dumb-ass, and Kucinich (as even Gene admits) is a pure hypothetical at this point, a statistical outlier if you will, who has no bearing on a serious discussion about the person occupying the White House. We are talking about national foreign policy, not some senatorial junket.
Talk about "no credibility" you dont even fuckin know Jordan and Lebanon are US allies, sitcho little ass down dummy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/omid-memarian/the-one-fundamental-diffe_b_97317.html
How bout you shut up and LEARN something instead of pretending you know WTF you are talking about when you so obviously do not?
Lebanon and Jordan are not enemies, dumb-ass, and Kucinich (as even Gene admits) is a pure hypothetical at this point, a statistical outlier if you will, who has no bearing on a serious discussion about the person occupying the White House. We are talking about national foreign policy, not some senatorial junket.
Talk about "no credibility" you dont even fuckin know Jordan and Lebanon are US allies, sitcho little ass down dummy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/omid-memarian/the-one-fundamental-diffe_b_97317.html
How bout you shut up and LEARN something instead of pretending you know WTF you are talking about when you so obviously do not?
Fucking idiot, sigh... I said nations we have problems with, being allies with certain nations doesn't mean they're BFF. We are technically allies with Saudi Arabia, where did the hijackers of 911 come from?
Your a fucking idiot that has resorted to putting words in my mouth, and the huff po link means nothing, Obama has voted to impose sanctions on Iran just like Hillary has, hes drinking the Kool-aid as well when it comes to Iran, so its your dumb ass who doesn't know what hes talking about. I wonder what words you'll put in my mouth next.
Thats how YOU define it, but that wasnt what the conversation was. Talking to nations we have problems with but arent warring with--thats called DIPLOMACY dickhead.
Leave it to you to conflate standard DIPLOMACY with a policy in which we refuse to deal with nations we have open beef with.
You've defined it after the fact after getting your ass whupped for a whole 24 hours.
You're getting routed...embarrassed...humbled...
To compare Saudi Arabia and Jordan to Iran is ignorant.
And to compare sanctions to suspending diplomatic channels and laying congressional grounds for pre-emptive war is also ignorant.
Give it up, chump--this is lightwork for me.
Thats how YOU define it, but that wasnt what the conversation was. Talking to nations we have problems with but arent warring with--thats called DIPLOMACY dickhead.
Leave it to you to conflate standard DIPLOMACY with a policy in which we refuse to deal with nations we have open beef with.
You've defined it after the fact after getting your ass whupped for a whole 24 hours.
You're getting routed...embarrassed...humbled...
To compare Saudi Arabia and Jordan to Iran is ignorant.
And to compare sanctions to suspending diplomatic channels and laying congressional grounds for pre-emptive war is also ignorant.
Give it up, chump--this is lightwork for me.
Yea thats what i thought, no comeback, "To compare Saudi Arabia and Jordan to Iran is ignorant." Bullshit, i specifically said "nations we have Problems with" and i know you fucking read it, and who said it wasn't diplomacy? And didn't you just say the same thing about Obama and Cuba? My point was that he wasn't unique in that area as you suggested and i gave you that proof. Kucinich, Gravel, Dodd, even Ron Paul is against the current policy we have with Cuba, and are against the Economic Embargo sanctions, they have all stated this. So your argument Fails, utterly i might add.
Wtf is different about the sanctions? Obama voted to impose Tougher sanctions on Iran just like hillary and Mccain did period, that means all three are drinking the Kool-aid with regards to Iran. Imposing sanctions on a country that has nothing to do with Al Qaeda.
Lightwork? your one of the biggest dumbasses on here, you can spout all the bullshit you want and you'll just have other dumbasses co-sign it. So hey i guess that does make it lightwork
SAUDI ARABIA AND JORDAN ARE NOT NATIONS WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THEY ARE U.S. ALLIES DUMBASS.
And what do Paul, Kucinich, Gravel and Dodd have in common, genius?
Me, I'm talking about someone who will determine foreign policy come January 2009--you go ahead and argue about Dodd or Paul or Moseley Braun or Joe Biden or Jesse Jackson or Gary Hart or Sharpton or Ted Kennedy or whatever theoretical (and failed) past primary candidates you like, asshole. You FAIL, and utterly, I might add.
Um, try looking up something called Kyl-Lieberman, genius, and maybe you can figure out the difference between Obama, and Hillary and McCain.
You still sweatin SANCTIONS? We about to pull some Iraq shit on Iran, and you sweatin SANCTIONS?
Drinking the Kool-Aid my ass, you dont even fuckin know the flavor.
SAUDI ARABIA AND JORDAN ARE NOT NATIONS WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THEY ARE U.S. ALLIES DUMBASS.
And what do Paul, Kucinich, Gravel and Dodd have in common, genius?
Me, I'm talking about someone who will determine foreign policy come January 2009--you go ahead and argue about Dodd or Paul or Moseley Braun or Joe Biden or Jesse Jackson or Gary Hart or Sharpton or Ted Kennedy or whatever theoretical (and failed) past primary candidates you like, asshole. You FAIL, and utterly, I might add.
Um, try looking up something called Kyl-Lieberman, genius, and maybe you can figure out the difference between Obama, and Hillary and McCain.
You still sweatin SANCTIONS? We about to pull some Iraq shit on Iran, and you sweatin SANCTIONS?
Drinking the Kool-Aid my ass, you dont even fuckin know the flavor.
So we don't have problems with countries that harbor terrorist? more specifically the terrorist that are supposed to be responsible for 911? Just because the Bush admin are in bed with them it doesn't mean there a problem? Try again genius.
Why is that we seem to have the most educated blacks around yet they have no idea of the roles the Arabs play in the African slave trade. No I am not talking about the past slave trade. That most should know about. Arabs are still in the African slave trade. They think of black Africans as dogs. They are behind the destabilazation of northern Africa. Not to say that Israel is any better then most European nations when it comes to blacks, but when the African Jews were dying and being killed of not one black person on this board offered up there house or paid a dime for there relocation. Israel brought them in. So I really don't care how you feel about Obama but the brother is doing the right thing because as long as we got a country willing to lay waste to Arabs. They are a firend of mine.
Officially no, we do not have a problem with Saudi Arabia. We freely interact with their government, our embassies are fully operational, and they are a key ally to the US in the Middle East.
No matter how bad you want the Saudis to be an enemy state, they aren't.
You do realize the Bush and B in L aden families have been close for thirty years right?
Try again genius.
Like i said, just because the bush admin are in bed with the Saudis that doesn't mean they are not a problem, 13 of the 14 hijackers are from saudi Arabia, and they have not cooperated whatsoever. We also trade with Venezuela, by your logic US-Venezuela relations are just peachy.
Anyways, the argument at this point has shifted totally from the main subject of the thread, so i'll just agree to disagree, no point in dragging the shit out any further.
Listen, 50 years ago israel was a GREAT idea for the west.
You have a post up for your military threat.
When america became able to blow shit off the map without a base in the region, israel became useless.
Just my opinion.
But the grip israel and their supporters had on america cause of israels need 50 years ago has not got weaker, it has got stronger.
You have a post up for your military threat.
When america became able to blow shit off the map without a base in the region, israel became useless.
Just my opinion.
But the grip israel and their supporters had on america cause of israels need 50 years ago has not got weaker, it has got stronger.
That was the whole point of my original argument, that Israeli Foreign policy has been bad for America, and that unfortunately Obama will continue that foreign policy, again this is based off his own comments.
in light of your comment this needs to be bumped.
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