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Is Vivek Ramaswamy A Friend or Foe to the Black Community?



So I am an Indian and still live in India. I maintain a surface level awareness of the political happenings in America. But I hadn't heard about Vivek until one of my American clients brought him up in a conversation. He was a conservative and praised Vivek for upholding American values, which he said helped Vivek achieve the American dream even though his parents were poor when they immigrated to America.

I would have forgotten about Vivek, but two things about him make him stand out in my mind. First, his parents were from Kerala, which is where I am from. See, this is odd. Because Kerala is primarily a left-leaning state. The right wing parties struggle to win more than even a couple of districts there. While there are conservative folks in Kerala, they are really rare. Secondly, 'Ramaswamy', Vivek's last name, isn't a Kerala name (or Malayali name to be precise. Malayalam is the language spoken in Kerala). It is more of a Tamil name (Tamil being the language of Kerala's neighbour state).

This bugged me. So I mentioned this to my friend who is also from Kerala. I also mentioned that Vivek is from Palakkad in Kerala. That's when it hit him. Apparently, Palakkad has a settlement of Tamil Brahmins and Vivek is from there. I googled Vivek's caste after the call and, voila, he IS a Brahmin.

Now why I am saying all this and pointing out Vivek's caste? Because of a couple of reasons. Vivek claims his parents came to the country poor and worked their way up. A lot of Americans don't realise that immigration in India is an expensive affair. And the majority of the immigrants you guys received from India until a couple of decades ago were Brahmins and upper caste folks. Why? Because a very few from the marginalized castes could afford it.

So when Vivek touts the same bullshit as Elon Musk and other rich guys, I hope you take it with a pinch of salt.

Also, Tamil Brahmins are generally the worst of Brahmins. Many Brahmins in modern India are introspective about the atrocities of their caste in the past and shun the caste system. In fact, many of them abandoned their identity as a Brahmin. But not Tamil Brahmins. They wear it as a badge of honour. They go around calling themselves "Tam-Brahms" and still subscribe to the false sense of superiority and look down on others. They also strongly argue for removing 'reservations", which is Indian equivalent of affirmative action to uplift lower castes.

Given all this, is there any surprise that Vivek will advocate for removal of all affirmative action, dismiss all discussions about inequality, and a return to the "good old days"?

PS: Also, as more and more Indians enter your country, I really recommend that Americans familiarise themselves with the Caste system. It will help.
 


Racial Identity and American Citizenship in the Court | Asian Americans​

https://thinktv.pbslearningmedia.or...d-american-citizenship-video/asian-americans/

Learn about the case of Bhagat Singh Thind (1923), a particularly important case in U.S. legal and immigration history and in how we perceive race and citizenship. Bhagat Singh Thind was from the Punjab region of India who came to the United States as a young man and joined the army, serving during World War I. After the war, he sought to become a naturalized citizen. During this period the United States were permitted Caucasions to appeal for citizenship, and Bhagat Singh Thind sought citizenship, through a legal process where he claimed that he was white. This legal fight went all the way to the Supreme Court. Ultimately, the Court found that even though he was Caucasian, he was not white.
 
Megatron X said:
I’m glad these non whites are coming out with their hatred for all you knuckleheads who just can’t get it. You POC minded niggaz. Like there’s this Dominican named Antonio Batista who shows nothing but hatred for black people and niggaz are so surprised. They conditioned themselves to think non whites are Allies. Whites aren’t the only enemies out here.
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The Asian community smartly hide behind black polticians, I would like to see more of them run for political office exposing their true intentions, pandering to whites - attacking us. San Francisco is a perfect example, they could easily elect an Asian mayor. Maybe @Dr. Truth can chime in on this.

I have been talking about Indians for awhile on BGOL, he just affirms what I have been saying. I have seen them all black saboteurs, Indians, Asians, and many other clowns sent by whites to come after me. I have alot of experience with this type of pathetic behavior.

In any event, I would like to see them 'get ahead' without coming after us, than I will acknowledge their success.
 
gene cisco said:
Damn. This dot boy getting work. :lol:

But on the real side, all the damage Biden helped do to the black community from the 70s, 80s, 90,s and 00s(if one of you bitches ask what damage, kill yourself), and he still got forgiven and is up there with white jesus. All this fool has to do is flip parties and just say the right things and act like nothing happened and so will everyone else. :smh:

If you got heat for this dot boy for just SAYING shit, I'm sure you have the same energy for those who DID shit. Right? Right? :lol:
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All he has to do is join the blue team and all will be forgiven. This is a politician gang war, nothing more nothing less.
 
Indians are highly integrated into white companies like Microsoft, HP, Intel, damn near run them. While Asians have their own companies that do business with us. I think Asians keep their views private because of their business relationships they want to maintain with us. They don't run for political office pandering to whites attacking us.

This stunt with the affirmative action lawsuit is Indian like desperate behavior out of character for them. Indians don't really have any businesses that we can protest ban for clowns like this.

It looks highly organized strategic planning on us.
 
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VAiz4hustlaz said:
Define "white".
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No melanin. She is from Bamberg, SC which is the epitome of a white southern town where you will see Confederate Flags flying and killing Deer is a sport like playing football...Her dad did teach at Voorhees College which is a HBCU in Denmark, SC but still. I know where her affiliation lies with...

She probably grew up wanting to be white her entire life living in Bamberg...
 
DC_Dude said:
No melanin. She is from Bamberg, SC which is the epitome of a white southern town where you will see Confederate Flags flying and killing Deer is a sport like playing football...Her dad did teach at Voorhees College which is a HBCU in Denmark, SC but still. I know where her affiliation lies with...

She probably grew up wanting to be white her entire life living in Bamberg...
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Then by that definition, she is white. Many Northern Indians, Central Asians, and Persians are of "Aryan" descent, as another poster noted, and identify themselves as coming from the same racial stock as Europeans.
 
VAiz4hustlaz said:
Then by that definition, she is white. Many Northern Indians, Central Asians, and Persians are of "Aryan" descent, as another poster noted, and identify themselves as coming from the same racial stock as Europeans.
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That might be true, but in Bamberg, SC and most of the USA she is an Indian. I guess if that's the case why did she change her name? Did she not want to be affiliated as an Indian? Why doesn't she go by her first name Nimarata?

I don't know alot of Indian Americans who changed their names to Bill, Kim, or whatever...

But again, I know little about their culture and what they consider themselves to be. I've worked with many Indians and went to graduate school with a few...
 
Man, if MSM don't stop crying about this cat, they going to build a Trump 2.0 like they did with the original in 2015. It's clear this guy has NO fucks to give. He is absent of all fucks. A black hole where fucks go to die.

And folks forget that most these cacs got Indian doctors so ain't like they won't fuck with him if they see the other side is pissed off. That's exactly how they started fucking with Trump. :smh:
 
VAiz4hustlaz said:


So I am an Indian and still live in India. I maintain a surface level awareness of the political happenings in America. But I hadn't heard about Vivek until one of my American clients brought him up in a conversation. He was a conservative and praised Vivek for upholding American values, which he said helped Vivek achieve the American dream even though his parents were poor when they immigrated to America.

I would have forgotten about Vivek, but two things about him make him stand out in my mind. First, his parents were from Kerala, which is where I am from. See, this is odd. Because Kerala is primarily a left-leaning state. The right wing parties struggle to win more than even a couple of districts there. While there are conservative folks in Kerala, they are really rare. Secondly, 'Ramaswamy', Vivek's last name, isn't a Kerala name (or Malayali name to be precise. Malayalam is the language spoken in Kerala). It is more of a Tamil name (Tamil being the language of Kerala's neighbour state).

This bugged me. So I mentioned this to my friend who is also from Kerala. I also mentioned that Vivek is from Palakkad in Kerala. That's when it hit him. Apparently, Palakkad has a settlement of Tamil Brahmins and Vivek is from there. I googled Vivek's caste after the call and, voila, he IS a Brahmin.

Now why I am saying all this and pointing out Vivek's caste? Because of a couple of reasons. Vivek claims his parents came to the country poor and worked their way up. A lot of Americans don't realise that immigration in India is an expensive affair. And the majority of the immigrants you guys received from India until a couple of decades ago were Brahmins and upper caste folks. Why? Because a very few from the marginalized castes could afford it.

So when Vivek touts the same bullshit as Elon Musk and other rich guys, I hope you take it with a pinch of salt.

Also, Tamil Brahmins are generally the worst of Brahmins. Many Brahmins in modern India are introspective about the atrocities of their caste in the past and shun the caste system. In fact, many of them abandoned their identity as a Brahmin. But not Tamil Brahmins. They wear it as a badge of honour. They go around calling themselves "Tam-Brahms" and still subscribe to the false sense of superiority and look down on others. They also strongly argue for removing 'reservations", which is Indian equivalent of affirmative action to uplift lower castes.

Given all this, is there any surprise that Vivek will advocate for removal of all affirmative action, dismiss all discussions about inequality, and a return to the "good old days"?

PS: Also, as more and more Indians enter your country, I really recommend that Americans familiarise themselves with the Caste system. It will help.
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I would suggest folks take this with a huge grain of salt.

Terms like "left-leaning" and "right-leaning" have dramatically different meanings from one country to the next.

For instance, universal healthcare is considered a left leaning concept for most Americans, but in Canada and the UK even the most conservative politicians advocate for it. The Green New deal is considered left leaning in the united states, but in Germany they have eco-fascists.

At the same time Donald Trump's xenophobic immigration policies would be considered liberal in Mexico, Saudi Arabia, or Japan.

He's right saying that immigration to United States is an expensive affair, but there are a LOT of caveats.

For instance, suppose his mom was born in the United States and moved to India as a child. In that case the process wouldn't cost much at all.

His parents could have immigrated to Canada first which would save them a lot of time and money getting naturalized in the United States.

Or maybe his parents came to the United States with a lot of money, but found out that their professional credentials weren't valid. In that case the money would have dried up while they restarted their professional lives working low-paid unskilled jobs.

As for the caste system, No! We definitely don't need to know about that here. People come to America to get away from that kind of bullshit and live their own lives.

In other words, this guy makes a lot of assumptions about people he doesn't know and a process he's never been through. Don't trust him!
 
APOPHIS said:
I created this thread as a cautionary tale based on previous politicians who spoke elegantly and delivered nothing. Also, my reason was due to the little information I had regarding his political involvement until recently. He is/has strategically used Black platforms as part of his meteoric rise to the top of the Republican field, and I was curious to see who else is curious about him. Little by little, his hatred for Black people becomes evident. There are plenty of black Republicans who have and will embrace his disingenuous "pull yourself up by the bootstrap" message.

"Coon thinking" is condescending those who provoke conversation to reveal the truth.
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Your thread is relevant because he's been coming into OUR communities trying to play act that he's down with us. Up until recently most didn't know who he was. Through this thread, the dirt on this dude is being exposed and the bgol uninformed are receiving information.
 
DC_Dude said:
That might be true, but in Bamberg, SC and most of the USA she is an Indian. I guess if that's the case why did she change her name? Did she not want to be affiliated as an Indian? Why doesn't she go by her first name Nimarata?

I don't know alot of Indian Americans who changed their names to Bill, Kim, or whatever...

But again, I know little about their culture and what they consider themselves to be. I've worked with many Indians and went to graduate school with a few...
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Put it like this. If I asked you to describe a valley girl, a texas rancher, a hillbilly, a Puerto rican, and a Wall Street bro you would probably have a very different description for each. But at the end of the day all of them are American.

India is the same way except they have nearly 5 times as many people.

It also depends on where you go in the US. If it's a city that has a large Indian population you'll be expected to conform to that. If it's a city with little or no Indian population you're expected to conform with whites.
 
Indians and Asians use very sophisticated techniques. Let say they are pushing for mass incarceration, they will be the victim, Asian Hate. When the defund the police movement was taking off, these 'Asian Hate' came out of nowhere. We get "Black Hate" all the time, Jacksonville is a perfect example. Or they will use various tactics to fuel crime such as car thefts, porch piracy, or push for felony laws. Indians will run for political office like Vivek and push for mass incarceration or attack affirmative action directly.

Asians will effeminately claim victimization from affirmative action or crime, even though they are over represented. It is hard to say somebody is a racist when they were victimized. Indians will push their agendas like a Vivek directly to your face.



You will be unlikely to see an Asian politician be like President Biden just spouting off that mass incarceration is needed. In his speech he does attempt this tactic in a hypothetical scenario that his family member was hit with a lead pipe, shoot my sister but it did not happen.
 
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DC_Dude said:
No melanin. She is from Bamberg, SC which is the epitome of a white southern town where you will see Confederate Flags flying and killing Deer is a sport like playing football...Her dad did teach at Voorhees College which is a HBCU in Denmark, SC but still. I know where her affiliation lies with...

She probably grew up wanting to be white her entire life living in Bamberg...
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Crazy that her dad was teaching Black students. I wonder what those dinner table talks were like :smh:. We need to be able to staff the HBCU's with our own Black professors who love being black.
 
Dannyblueyes said:
Put it like this. If I asked you to describe a valley girl, a texas rancher, a hillbilly, a Puerto rican, and a Wall Street bro you would probably have a very different description for each. But at the end of the day all of them are American.

India is the same way except they have nearly 5 times as many people.

It also depends on where you go in the US. If it's a city that has a large Indian population you'll be expected to conform to that. If it's a city with little or no Indian population you're expected to conform with whites.
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Aren't you white?
 
respiration said:
Your thread is relevant because he's been coming into OUR communities trying to play act that he's down with us. Up until recently most didn't know who he was. Through this thread, the dirt on this dude is being exposed and the bgol uninformed are receiving information.
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The guy you are quoting isn't uninformed. He's a fucking agent.
 
Diomedes3000 said:
Crazy that her dad was teaching Black students. I wonder what those dinner table talks were like :smh:. We need to be able to staff the HBCU's with our own Black professors who love being black.
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I 100% agree. The problem is that most HBCUs don’t get the research dollars like other institutions. My homie who is at Vanderbilt told me that most black PHDs will go to the big institutions to make money and get name recognition in their respective research area and then will transition to HBUCs as a way to give back once they have reached their career goals.

You are 100% right I definitely would like to be at those tables and curious to know what kind of professor he was.
 
lazarus said:
Sigh. No.

Andamese people (black and asian mix from the Andaman island where they get their color), East Asians, and aboriginals of Australia.
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You’re an idiot but we already knew that.

“From a study of the shared mitochondrial DNA types and the parsimony tree (Fig. 2) we came to the conclusion that the Indian population is closer to Caucasians and has an admixture with Asians”
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Ancestry and interrelationships of the Indians and their relationship with other world populations: a study based on mitochondrial DNA polymorphisms - PubMed

Mitochondrial DNA variation was studied in 100 Indians using the same set of six restriction enzymes used in the study of other world ethnic groups in order to compare and discern possible relationships of the Indian populations. Twenty nine mtDNA types were found including the ones from an...
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Dr. Truth said:
Modern South Asians are descendants of a combination of an indigenous South Asian component (termed Ancient Ancestral South Indians, short "AASI"), closest to Southern Indian tribal groups, and distantly related to the Andamanese peoples, as well as to East Asian people, and Aboriginal Australians,[5][6] and later-arriving West Eurasian (Western-steppe herders/West Asian-related) and additional East/Southeast Asian components respectively.[6]You’re an idiot but we already knew that.

“From a study of the shared mitochondrial DNA types and the parsimony tree (Fig. 2) we came to the conclusion that the Indian population is closer to Caucasians and has an admixture with Asians”
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Ancestry and interrelationships of the Indians and their relationship with other world populations: a study based on mitochondrial DNA polymorphisms - PubMed

Mitochondrial DNA variation was studied in 100 Indians using the same set of six restriction enzymes used in the study of other world ethnic groups in order to compare and discern possible relationships of the Indian populations. Twenty nine mtDNA types were found including the ones from an...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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Once again, it proves you're an idiot,

In that same study by one dude back in 96, it states
. The North Indian population appears to have a recent admixture of the Caucasian mtDNA types which is absent in the south.

THE YEAR IS 2023

Now with recent sources

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