{~}Official 2022-2023 NBA Thread - it’s that time again, this thread coming to a end

[Simply Sickenin']

Cuz...

I actually Nurse got that rah rah almost college coach energy that will be good for your squad.

You got Maxey.

And seriously Harden is NOT a scrub.

There HAS to be a scheme that works with them both on the floor effective

You guys still need some type of closer though.

It's that rah rah energy that I think Harden is trying to duck with a trade. Harden is a great player but also comes across as lazy af.

The rest of the squad could definitely benefit from that energy, but I'm personally tired of Harden. If he don't want to be here, he can go

 

[playahaitian]

It's that rah rah energy that I think Harden is trying to duck with a trade. Harden is a great player but also comes across as lazy af.

The rest of the squad could definitely benefit from that energy, but I'm personally tired of Harden. If he don't want to be here, he can go

^^^^

Specifically on Harden

He is frustrating

and his arch and the media and fans reaction to it is fascinating

He became an analytical darling their Jesus

They told us he was the modern Jordan

MORE so than LeBron

And then he wasn't

But during his mathematical coronation

Basketball guys kept questioning his heart, defense and clutch gene

So it exposed the biggest flaw in the NBA nerd methodology...

The eye test trusting your gut experience and actual play on the court not a flow chart.

I think that's why even dork Elvis worshippers are cutting the beard off

 

[jack walsh13]

All factz SMFH!

Shit just pisses me the muthafuck off!!!!!

 

[jack walsh13]

It's that rah rah energy that I think Harden is trying to duck with a trade. Harden is a great player but also comes across as lazy af.

The rest of the squad could definitely benefit from that energy, but I'm personally tired of Harden. If he don't want to be here, he can go

BINGO!!!!!

 

[playahaitian]

It's that rah rah energy that I think Harden is trying to duck with a trade. Harden is a great player but also comes across as lazy af.

The rest of the squad could definitely benefit from that energy, but I'm personally tired of Harden. If he don't want to be here, he can go

BINGO!!!!!

I don't know if he is LAZY but he is certainly unreliable

If he WANTS to go? Fine

But I think you keep him cause your never getting value back.

And I feel like Philly is becoming high pressure with a coaching change and Embid complaining in public.

Maybe Nurse can unlock Harden?

At least for spurts when it really matters?

 

[Complex]

Draymond sounds like an idiot. Why not correct it before hitting enter

 

[therealjondoe]

 

[jawnswoop]

Shit just pisses me the muthafuck off!!!!!

I feel you and me too....

 

[jack walsh13]

I don't know if he is LAZY but he is certainly unreliable

If he WANTS to go? Fine

But I think you keep him cause your never getting value back.

And I feel like Philly is becoming high pressure with a coaching change and Embid complaining in public.

Maybe Nurse can unlock Harden?

At least for spurts when it really matters?

The reality is shit will not get better till Morey is fired. Which will happen in 2 more years.

 

[playahaitian]

The reality is shit will not get better till Morey is fired. Which will happen in 2 more years.

Wait wait wait cuzzo...

You want dork Elvis gone?

You blame him for all this current sh*t

 

[jack walsh13]

Wait wait wait cuzzo...

You want dork Elvis gone?

You blame him for all this current sh*t

Morey is a clown. Had no business getting Harden, or signing Tucker or Beverley. ALL HE DOES IS SIGN OLD RECYCLED ROCKETS. He stinks. Hes a con man. What has he ever won with the moves he's made?

 

[playahaitian]

Morey is a clown. Had no business getting Harden, or signing Tucker or Beverley. ALL HE DOES IS SIGN OLD RECYCLED ROCKETS. He stinks. Hes a con man. What has he ever won with the moves he's made?

Nope.

He has not.

 

[The Catcher In The Rye]

In the 1990s, the construction of a new sports arena in Chinatown brought the Washington Bullets (now the Washington Wizards) to the heart of DC. The cost of this move was felt deeply in Chinatown, as several blocks of residences and small businesses were flattened to make way for the multimillion dollar project. Decades later, the Wizards are now considering an exit from DC for Virginia. As has been noted on the show before, these massive sports teams moves primarily benefit owners and their cronies in industry, who stand to benefit from vacuuming massive quantities of taxpayer money into their own pockets.

Edge of Sports breaks down how the flight of sports teams from DC could once again come at Chinatown’s expense.



The video starts where the segment begins but the full episode is of interest. "150 years of Black activism in sports w/ Dr. Harry Edwards: The central place of sports in American life lends immense influence to athletes to shift the culture of the country—and for more than 150 years, Black athletes have done just that. Few scholars are as attuned to the intricacies of this history as renowned sociologist Dr. Harry Edwards. From his role in shaping the events of the 1968 Olympics to the politics of Colin Kaepernick, Edwards is just as much a participant in this history as a student and teacher of it. Now 80 years old, Dr. Harry Edwards joins Edge of Sports as he embarks on his Last Lectures, a final project to close his long career as a public intellectual."

@DC_Dude will probably be interested in the subject-- @Amajorfucup as well, additionally curious if you have thoughts on what the young brother Harry Edwards had to say.

SEGMENT TRANSCRIPT​

Dave Zirin:

Okay, look, for those who do not know, we record and produce this TV show in the great city of Baltimore, a place with a sports history, as rich as any in the worlds of pro baseball and football, but without an NBA team. This was not always the case. In 1963, Baltimore got a team as the Chicago Packers moved to town and called themselves the Baltimore Bullets. Then a decade later, the Bullets left Baltimore for the DC suburbs, first as the Capital Bullets in Landover, Maryland outside of DC. They eventually became known as the Washington Bullets.

The story continues. In 1997, the team dropped the bullets name because of concerns of owner Abe Pollin, that they were glorifying violence. They became the Wizards. But with that rebranding, the team enacted a different kind of violence, this kind cruel and cold, with prophets running rough shot over the people. Pollin moved the team to a brand spanking new arena in the heart of DC’s Chinatown, irrevocably changing the area.

The arrival of the arena was like a bomb going off, flattening the entire community. It signaled the end of Chinatown as a place where actual Chinese and Chinese American families lived and ran shops and restaurants. Instead, it became a neighborhood that adapted to the stadium, as developers tore down local businesses in favor of high-end chains with impossibly bright signage. And of course, in a nod to what was, the names of the restaurants are spelled out in tiny Mandarin lettering, beneath the big signs writ large, promising high end gluttony, either before or after the game. A community had been replaced by a brand.

That shoddy Blade Runner-esque landscape is what exists now in the Chinatown corridor. And so it has been for a quarter century. But now, there are reports that the Washington Wizards are planning their fifth move in 60 years, with an eye on tax breaks and public funds that could be accrued by hightailing it to the Commonwealth of Virginia, along with the NHL’s Washington Capitals, and perhaps even the WNBAs Washington Mystics who are playing in a brand new arena themselves in Southeast DC.

Franchise owner Ted Leonsis who bought the team from Abe Pollin, has decided that threatening to move the teams, straight extortion, is the way he wants to do business with the city. Let’s forget a moment that 70 million was spent to refurbish the arena just two years ago. Let’s forget that if this move happens, the team will either call themselves the Virginia Wizards, which sounds more KKK than a pack of Marlboros, or remain the Washington Wizards, keeping the commercial branding while abandoning the city, a total slap in the face.

Forget that if they dare continue the tradition of playing Welcome To DC by go-go Legends Mambo Sauce in the arena, it would be yet another slap in DC’s face by a feckless franchise that hasn’t won 50 games in a season since Jimmy Carter was president. Also forget that while Northern Virginia is close, it’s psychologically and politically for a lot of folks in DC, a whole other world. Forget all of that.

What is truly vexing me, what’s really grinding my gears, is that this team is now threatening to gut the same neighborhood for the second time in a quarter century. What is going to happen to all those big box bars and restaurants in Chinatown? If the arena leaves, will they be able to stay open? No. Will Chinatown magically come roaring back? No. Instead, we’ll be left with a ghost town of boarded up restaurants, with tumbleweed lazily being blown across Seventh Street.

This is maddening. An utterly venal effort aimed at extorting more money out of a city and a budget crunch. Team owner, Ted Leonsis, might as well be saying, “Nice neighborhood you got here. Be a shame if something happened to it.”

Look, if you know me, you know what my solution to this would be? The city should seize the Wizards, pay off Leonsis and have the team become the most lucrative public utility in the city. Enough with franchise owners coast to coast, threatening our cities for more public welfare during a time of rising inequality and infrastructure degradation. I mean, a portion of I95 quite literally collapsed. And yet, new sports arenas is where the Ted Leonsises of this world are saying we should be spending our precious public funds. So, if you want to break it down to a slogan, save DC save the Wizards, seize the team.

Well, that’s all the time this week. Thank you, Dr. Harry Edwards. Thank you to the team here at The Real News Network. If you are listening right now, if you are watching, please stay frosty, stay safe. We are out of here. Peace.

 

[The Catcher In The Rye]

Draymond sounds like an idiot. Why not correct it before hitting enter

It's a disgrace with NBA players in general. You could say the same after half of LeBron's tweets. These are smart dudes so I really don't get it.

 

[Amajorfucup]

@DC_Dude will probably be interested in the subject-- @Amajorfucup as well, additionally curious if you have thoughts on what the young brother Harry Edwards had to say.

What is truly vexing me, what’s really grinding my gears, is that this team is now threatening to gut the same neighborhood for the second time in a quarter century. What is going to happen to all those big box bars and restaurants in Chinatown? If the arena leaves, will they be able to stay open? No. Will Chinatown magically come roaring back? No. Instead, we’ll be left with a ghost town of boarded up restaurants, with tumbleweed lazily being blown across Seventh Street.

As i said before.. wholeheartedly disagree with above. The city has changed... has gotten younger, richer, and the metropolitan is more densely populated. Whatever hole they leave will be replaced with highend retail, hotel, restaurants, housing (condos)... and with gambling essentially being legalized in the city i wouldnt be surprised if some form of a casino or stand alone sportsbook hits downtown at some point (there currently one inside the arena that drives significant foot traffic)... Let em take they ass across the bridge. I think they will regret it long term more than the city will. IMO, it would be yet another idiotic move by the Leonis braintrust.. leaving the city when real estate and income values are all at record highs for a money grab on a bad product. Fuck em.

Also, poorly timed extortion play with the 'Skins (football team) changing ownership and potentially getting they shit together. Even as Snyder ran the brand into the shitter, DC will always be a Skins town first.. If they get their shit in order even less people will actually give a dam about the Wiz beyond casual fan status. The name and unis have never been fully embraced and the shit product they put on the court and sheer incompetence since you've been born underscore that.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

As i said before.. wholeheartedly disagree with above. The city has changed... has gotten younger, richer, and the metropolitan is more densely populated. Whatever hole they leave will be replaced with highend retail, hotel, restaurants, housing (condos)... and with gambling essentially being legalized in the city i wouldnt be surprised if some form of a casino or stand alone sportsbook hits downtown at some point (there currently one inside the arena that drives significant foot traffic)... Let em take they ass across the bridge. I think they will regret it long term more than the city will. IMO, it would be yet another idiotic move by the Leonis braintrust.. leaving the city when real estate and income values are all at record highs for a money grab on a bad product. Fuck em.

Also, poorly timed extortion play with the 'Skins (football team) changing ownership and potentially getting they shit together. Even as Snyder ran the brand into the shitter, DC will always be a Skins town first.. If they get their shit in order even less people will actually give a dam about the Wiz beyond casual fan status. The name and unis have never been fully embraced and the shit product they put on the court and sheer incompetence since you've been born underscore that.

Costanza is hilarious

 

[Amajorfucup]

Costanza is hilarious

Very.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Very.

Him being a warriors fan is even more hilarious

 

[DC_Dude]

In the 1990s, the construction of a new sports arena in Chinatown brought the Washington Bullets (now the Washington Wizards) to the heart of DC. The cost of this move was felt deeply in Chinatown, as several blocks of residences and small businesses were flattened to make way for the multimillion dollar project. Decades later, the Wizards are now considering an exit from DC for Virginia. As has been noted on the show before, these massive sports teams moves primarily benefit owners and their cronies in industry, who stand to benefit from vacuuming massive quantities of taxpayer money into their own pockets.

Edge of Sports breaks down how the flight of sports teams from DC could once again come at Chinatown’s expense.



The video starts where the segment begins but the full episode is of interest. "150 years of Black activism in sports w/ Dr. Harry Edwards: The central place of sports in American life lends immense influence to athletes to shift the culture of the country—and for more than 150 years, Black athletes have done just that. Few scholars are as attuned to the intricacies of this history as renowned sociologist Dr. Harry Edwards. From his role in shaping the events of the 1968 Olympics to the politics of Colin Kaepernick, Edwards is just as much a participant in this history as a student and teacher of it. Now 80 years old, Dr. Harry Edwards joins Edge of Sports as he embarks on his Last Lectures, a final project to close his long career as a public intellectual."

@DC_Dude will probably be interested in the subject-- @Amajorfucup as well, additionally curious if you have thoughts on what the young brother Harry Edwards had to say.

SEGMENT TRANSCRIPT​

Dave Zirin:

Okay, look, for those who do not know, we record and produce this TV show in the great city of Baltimore, a place with a sports history, as rich as any in the worlds of pro baseball and football, but without an NBA team. This was not always the case. In 1963, Baltimore got a team as the Chicago Packers moved to town and called themselves the Baltimore Bullets. Then a decade later, the Bullets left Baltimore for the DC suburbs, first as the Capital Bullets in Landover, Maryland outside of DC. They eventually became known as the Washington Bullets.

The story continues. In 1997, the team dropped the bullets name because of concerns of owner Abe Pollin, that they were glorifying violence. They became the Wizards. But with that rebranding, the team enacted a different kind of violence, this kind cruel and cold, with prophets running rough shot over the people. Pollin moved the team to a brand spanking new arena in the heart of DC’s Chinatown, irrevocably changing the area.

The arrival of the arena was like a bomb going off, flattening the entire community. It signaled the end of Chinatown as a place where actual Chinese and Chinese American families lived and ran shops and restaurants. Instead, it became a neighborhood that adapted to the stadium, as developers tore down local businesses in favor of high-end chains with impossibly bright signage. And of course, in a nod to what was, the names of the restaurants are spelled out in tiny Mandarin lettering, beneath the big signs writ large, promising high end gluttony, either before or after the game. A community had been replaced by a brand.

That shoddy Blade Runner-esque landscape is what exists now in the Chinatown corridor. And so it has been for a quarter century. But now, there are reports that the Washington Wizards are planning their fifth move in 60 years, with an eye on tax breaks and public funds that could be accrued by hightailing it to the Commonwealth of Virginia, along with the NHL’s Washington Capitals, and perhaps even the WNBAs Washington Mystics who are playing in a brand new arena themselves in Southeast DC.

Franchise owner Ted Leonsis who bought the team from Abe Pollin, has decided that threatening to move the teams, straight extortion, is the way he wants to do business with the city. Let’s forget a moment that 70 million was spent to refurbish the arena just two years ago. Let’s forget that if this move happens, the team will either call themselves the Virginia Wizards, which sounds more KKK than a pack of Marlboros, or remain the Washington Wizards, keeping the commercial branding while abandoning the city, a total slap in the face.

Forget that if they dare continue the tradition of playing Welcome To DC by go-go Legends Mambo Sauce in the arena, it would be yet another slap in DC’s face by a feckless franchise that hasn’t won 50 games in a season since Jimmy Carter was president. Also forget that while Northern Virginia is close, it’s psychologically and politically for a lot of folks in DC, a whole other world. Forget all of that.

What is truly vexing me, what’s really grinding my gears, is that this team is now threatening to gut the same neighborhood for the second time in a quarter century. What is going to happen to all those big box bars and restaurants in Chinatown? If the arena leaves, will they be able to stay open? No. Will Chinatown magically come roaring back? No. Instead, we’ll be left with a ghost town of boarded up restaurants, with tumbleweed lazily being blown across Seventh Street.

This is maddening. An utterly venal effort aimed at extorting more money out of a city and a budget crunch. Team owner, Ted Leonsis, might as well be saying, “Nice neighborhood you got here. Be a shame if something happened to it.”

Look, if you know me, you know what my solution to this would be? The city should seize the Wizards, pay off Leonsis and have the team become the most lucrative public utility in the city. Enough with franchise owners coast to coast, threatening our cities for more public welfare during a time of rising inequality and infrastructure degradation. I mean, a portion of I95 quite literally collapsed. And yet, new sports arenas is where the Ted Leonsises of this world are saying we should be spending our precious public funds. So, if you want to break it down to a slogan, save DC save the Wizards, seize the team.

Well, that’s all the time this week. Thank you, Dr. Harry Edwards. Thank you to the team here at The Real News Network. If you are listening right now, if you are watching, please stay frosty, stay safe. We are out of here. Peace.

As i said before.. wholeheartedly disagree with above. The city has changed... has gotten younger, richer, and the metropolitan is more densely populated. Whatever hole they leave will be replaced with highend retail, hotel, restaurants, housing (condos)... and with gambling essentially being legalized in the city i wouldnt be surprised if some form of a casino or stand alone sportsbook hits downtown at some point (there currently one inside the arena that drives significant foot traffic)... Let em take they ass across the bridge. I think they will regret it long term more than the city will. IMO, it would be yet another idiotic move by the Leonis braintrust.. leaving the city when real estate and income values are all at record highs for a money grab on a bad product. Fuck em.

Also, poorly timed extortion play with the 'Skins (football team) changing ownership and potentially getting they shit together. Even as Snyder ran the brand into the shitter, DC will always be a Skins town first.. If they get their shit in order even less people will actually give a dam about the Wiz beyond casual fan status. The name and unis have never been fully embraced and the shit product they put on the court and sheer incompetence since you've been born underscore that.

All FACTS @Amajorfucup!

It really doesn't matter whether they leave or stay. It would be a dumb move by the owner, but like OG said, FUCK em! Unlike other cities, it may hurt if a team like let's Cleveland or Charlotte, but downtown DC is always going to be thriving because of the museums and tourist. All th restaurants in that area will still be packed with or without the Wizards stadium.....Since that is prime real estate adjacent to a major Metro Stop (Gallery Place) someone will easily buy that joint and put something there....I am not sure if the Wizards or the City owns that land, but man that's prime real estate.

 

[dik cashmere]

 

[jawnswoop]

Iverson should be #1

 

[DC_Dude]

Iverson should be #1

100% agree

 

[Complex]

Iverson should be #1

 

[jawnswoop]

Iverson actually made his defender fall twice back to back. I have yet to see Kyrie do the same thing.

 

[Complex]

Iverson actually made his defender fall twice back to back. I have yet to see Kyrie do the same thing.

Dropping a defender is a regular occurrence

Kyrie's handle is next level. It's how a small point guard with average athleticism dominates offensively

Hoopers say Kyrie has the best handle

 

[jawnswoop]

Dropping a defender is a regular occurrence

Kyrie's handle is next level. It's how a small point guard with average athleticism dominates offensively

Hoopers say Kyrie has the best handle

I'm talking about actually having his defender touch the ground back to back falling.

Kyrie is nice but he doesn't have better handles than Iverson.

Also, some Kyrie defenders hardly even tried to defend him.

 

[Complex]

 

[Complex]

I'm talking about actually having his defender touch the ground back to back falling.

Kyrie is nice but he doesn't have better handles than Iverson.

Also, some Kyrie defenders hardly even tried to defend him.

That doesn't make you a great dribbler

What are you talking about

His handles are better by far. Chuck will tell you his handles are better.

Kyrie is an absolute wizard with the ball.

 

[jawnswoop]

Dropping a defender is a regular occurrence

Kyrie's handle is next level. It's how a small point guard with average athleticism dominates offensively

Hoopers say Kyrie has the best handle

That doesn't make you a great dribbler

What are you talking about

His handles are better by far. Chuck will tell you his handles are better.

Kyrie is an absolute wizard with the ball.

All them videos you posted of kyrie doing that but show me a video of kyrie doing this because nothing will top this....

 

[playahaitian]

In THAT order?

 

[jawnswoop]

In THAT order?

It's the wrong order.

 

[playahaitian]

It's the wrong order.

I hate these f*cking lists period

 

[jawnswoop]

I hate these f*cking lists period

I mean it does get people talking to debate.

A lot of people that make these list haven't been watching basketball long enough.

 

[dik cashmere]

In THAT order?

Skip should’ve been on this list

 

[REDLINE]

GTFOH