Biden doesn't want to fight for 50,000 student loan relief. It's too hard

Yeah I am sure they have a back up plan..

I think the 2 mentioned regarding 5% of your income and stopping interest from accruing were 2 major items.....

No doubt, and honestly I'm hoping for those two more than the $20,000.

Don’t get me wrong I'd appreciate that amount being removed but I'll still owe a significant amount after.

My debt wouldn't be anywhere near as high had it not been for the ridiculous interest rates added on which is significant despite my always paying.
 
No doubt, and honestly I'm hoping for those two more than the $20,000.

Don’t get me wrong I'd appreciate that amount being removed but I'll still owe a significant amount after.

My debt wouldn't be anywhere near as high had it not been for the ridiculous interest rates added on which is significant despite my always paying.

FACTS!

I been trying to say the entire time, that income reduction and the interest not growing are HUGE.....

Yes the 10K and 20K would be super nice and I will always advocate for TOTAL Elimination, but those 2 items are big win wins......

Trust and believe as someone who has been following this shit since 2012, if Orange Man was still in office we wouldn't even be where we at right now....

This entire thread wouldn't have been created....
 
FACTS!

I been trying to say the entire time, that income reduction and the interest not growing are HUGE.....

Yes the 10K and 20K would be super nice and I will always advocate for TOTAL Elimination, but those 2 items are big win wins......

Trust and believe as someone who has been following this shit since 2012, if Orange Man was still in office we wouldn't even be where we at right now....

This entire thread wouldn't have been created....

What do you mean by your Orange Man statement?

I think you mean that he never would have done it. I'm not so sure...

If it were explained to him how many votes this would get him I think he'd have done it.

All he cared about and cares about is votes...so he can scam the system
 
What do you mean by your Orange Man statement?

I think you mean that he never would have done it. I'm not so sure...

If it were explained to him how many votes this would get him I think he'd have done it.

All he cared about and cares about is votes...so he can scam the system
Naw he wouldn't have because Betsy Devoy was against it. She literally did everything in her power to privatize the entire student loan issues...

She was his Secretary of Education (zero experience working in education)....

She probably was one if not his biggest lieutenant. She was the riches person in his entire cabinet.



I can post articles for days about why she wasn't going to let that happen......



Yes dude cares about votes, but he loved money even more and she would have told him that amount he could make esp. if they privatize student loans. I believe she has a large stake in SOFI which would have been one of the loan companies to take over student loans if her wishes came true.
 
Yeah my girl at the time was a teacher. In DC Public schools. Heard endlessly how Devos was fucking teachers over not to mention college students.

Trump only care about himself. Just needed the right lobbyist in his ear but Devos and the inner circle would never allow that person to get that kind of access to him.
 
Yeah my girl at the time was a teacher. In DC Public schools. Heard endlessly how Devos was fucking teachers over not to mention college students.

Trump only care about himself. Just needed the right lobbyist in his ear but Devos and the inner circle would never allow that person to get that kind of access to him.

She was a billionaire

Elisabeth Dee DeVos (/dəˈvɒs/ də-VOSS; née Prince; born January 8, 1958) is an American politician, philanthropist, and former government official who served as the 11th United States secretary of education from 2017 to 2021. DeVos is known for her conservative political activism,[1] and particularly her support for school choice, school voucher programs, and charter schools.[2][3][4][5] She was Republican national committeewoman for Michigan from 1992 to 1997 and served as chair of the Michigan Republican Party from 1996 to 2000, and again from 2003 to 2005. She has advocated for the Detroit charter school system[6][7] and she is a former member of the board of the Foundation for Excellence in Education. She has served as chair of the board of the Alliance for School Choice and the Acton Institute and headed the All Children Matter PAC.[8]

DeVos is married to former Amway CEO Dick DeVos.[9][10] Her brother, Erik Prince, a former U.S. Navy SEAL officer, is the founder of Blackwater USA.[11][12][13] Their father is billionaire industrialist Edgar Prince, founder of the Prince Corporation.[12][13][14][15] In 2016, the family was listed by Forbes as the 88th-richest in America, with an estimated net worth of $5.4 billion.[16]

On November 23, 2016, then-President-elect Donald Trump announced that he would nominate DeVos to serve as Secretary of Education in his administration.[17] On January 31, following strong opposition to the nomination from Democrats, the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions approved her nomination on a party-line vote, sending her nomination to the Senate floor.[18] On February 7, 2017, she was confirmed by the Senate by a 51–50 margin, with Vice President Mike Pence breaking the tie in favor of her nomination. This was the first time in U.S. history that a Cabinet nominee's confirmation was decided by the vice president's tiebreaking vote.[19][20][21]
 
Yeah my girl at the time was a teacher. In DC Public schools. Heard endlessly how Devos was fucking teachers over not to mention college students.

Trump only care about himself. Just needed the right lobbyist in his ear but Devos and the inner circle would never allow that person to get that kind of access to him.

Devos alone should have been enough for everyone to put Trump on their shit list. Or anyone who would have appointed her.
 
As much money as the NCAA pulls In annually.

All colleges should be free.

Education isn’t the business of the ncaa. This is an extraction of valuable resources enterprise and maybe you should realize that “education” are part of it.
 
If you needed any more proof that the American dream was never intended for us, here it is.

But there's always another way.

I may look at Germany or Canada for law school depending on how things shake out.

I'm a splitter. My GPA won't finish out great but I track to score high on the LSAT. AA might have helped me get into a more well known program. It's all good though, I'll make it happen.

Guys like me might have to do a year at a smaller school and transfer in to a higher program to finish with that name.

Where there's a will there's a way.
 


Edit: please stop asking questions about the new repayment plan. The rules aren't out yet. I'm not willing..nor should anyone else be...to answer questions based on the draft. As soon as the rules come out I'll post as quickly as I can and at that point will be delighted to try and answer any questions folks still have.

See the below article from politico. My understanding of this safety net is that if borrowers go past due once repayment restarts on COVID pause eligible loans and hit the 90 day past due mark..which is normally when you would be reported to the credit bureau..the Ed will instruct the servicer to place a forbearance on the accounts to cover the delinquency. Interest will still accrue. It appears they may do this for longer than the initial 90 day period after restart but it’s unclear from the article if a borrower can receive this “safety net” multiple times. Once the Ed publishes more details I will post them. Essentially this will prevent credit dings and defaults for a while. I would not count on these forbearance periods to count for pslf or idr forgiveness.

Biden administration officials are devising plans to ease the sting of requiring tens of millions of Americans to resume paying their student loans this fall for the first time in more than three years.

The Education Department in recent weeks finalized a three-month grace period for missed payments once student loans come due in October and directed loan services to be "prepared" to extend that flexibility for subsequent 90-day periods, according to two people familiar with the discussions. Once interest accrual resumes on Sept. 1, under the department’s current plans, it would continue to pile up even if borrowers miss payments.

The policy — which has been dubbed internally as a “safety net period” — would prevent borrowers who fall behind on payments from getting dinged on their credit report well into 2024, likely beyond the presidential election. It would also prevent severely delinquent borrowers from suffering the consequences of a default until 2025 at the earliest.

In addition, Education Department officials are preparing to unveil in the coming weeks, and then swiftly implement, the final version of President Joe Biden’s new loan repayment program.

The administration plans to promote that new income-driven repayment plan as a way for student loan borrowers to cut costs as monthly payments resume. Officials have rebranded the policy as the “SAVE” plan, an acronym for “Saving on a Valuable Education,” according to people familiar with the forthcoming regulation. That would ditch the Obama-era branding for the program, which had been called “REPAYE” or “Revised Pay As You Earn.”


"In spite of our opponents’ best efforts to sabotage our work to support student borrowers, we are fully committed to helping borrowers successfully navigate the return to repayment," an Education Department spokesperson said when asked for comment on the administration’s latest plans.

The deliberations within the administration over how to restart student loans have accelerated since Biden agreed to codify the end of the pandemic-related freeze on student loan payments as part of the debt ceiling deal he reached with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy earlier this month.

But looming large over the restart of payments is the Supreme Court’s decision, expected any day, on whether Biden can move ahead with outright canceling up to $20,000 of student debt. The administration argues it needs to reduce or eliminate balances for many borrowers to prevent a huge spike in delinquencies or defaults when borrowers are asked to resume making payments for the first time since the Covid-19 pandemic began.

The White House is facing intense pressure from many progressives who don’t want the administration to even entertain the idea of collecting payments until they’ve canceled a large swath of outstanding debt.

“The only acceptable order of operations is delivering student loan cancellation and then the return to repayment,” said Melissa Byrne, a student debt activist whose organization, We The 45 Million, has led demonstrations calling for debt relief outside the White House since the beginning of the Biden administration.

Republicans, meanwhile, are stepping up their criticism of the administration for what they view as slow-walking efforts to completely end the pandemic-related relief for student loan borrowers and require borrowers to repay their debts.

Louisiana Sen. Bill Cassidy, the top Republican on the Senate Education Committee, blasted the administration’s plan to avoid penalizing missed student loan payments as “a direct violation of the debt ceiling agreement” Biden signed earlier this month.

The debt ceiling law prohibited the administration from further extending the pause on student loan payment and interest beyond 60 days after June 30.


“Any well-meaning person would have assumed people were going to start paying back that which they owed the last day of August,” Cassidy said in an interview. “Now we hear it’s at least 90 days and probably longer.”

“The people who owe these debts are going to be the ones confused and without guidance,” Cassidy said. “They’re going to pay a price because the administration made a decision for short-term political gain.”

Cassidy has joined other Republicans, including House Education Chair Virginia Foxx (R-N.C.), in criticizing the Education Department for what they view as a lack of proper planning for restarting payments. The lawmakers have demanded that the agency brief them on its plans for restarting student loan payments this fall.

“The Department remains in constant contact with servicers, and we will be in direct contact with borrowers before repayment resumes,” the spokesperson said. “Engaging with servicers to ensure they are communicating directly with borrowers about successfully returning to repayment is an important part of the Department’s efforts to smoothly transition borrowers back into repayment.”

Education Department officials for several years have told federal student loan servicers to expect to provide borrowers with a three-month transitional period in which borrowers won’t be penalized for missed payments, as POLITICO has previously reported.

In recent weeks, the Education Department issued a fresh directive to loan servicers about those plans. The latest directive calls for an “initial” grace period of 90 days but leaves open-ended precisely when that flexibility would end, according to people familiar with the plans. Officials told the student loan companies they should be “prepared” to extend the grace period for additional 90-day periods.

In addition, the department told the companies to be ready, at the agency's direction, to pull borrowers who are more than 30 days behind on their loans out of delinquency and back into status once the grace period finally ends.
 
No Republicans better have a Plan B because this here is going to fuck up everything for them, especially with the younger generation
I think they, in their current incarnation, are just about done. Who is their base after the currently flock is in the dirt? What group?

Also, what is the big push for student loan repayment to start in full and immediately? I understand the money "is owed", but they act like they ain't eating or something. Is that gap in funds already earmarked for something else? Are they screwing us over in order to pay something else that was promised (Fund the war? Pay out Social Security? Compensate for the billions they allegedly "lost"?)

All that nonsense and then PPP loan forgiveness being the cherry on top of a bullshit sundae. Crazy how these assholes are losing their minds over student loans.
 
The only small hope I have that this may be a positive outcome is that they came out with their ruling against affirmative action first and may be less inclined to kill this as well.
 
Just a reminder that a one term, twice impeached, multi indicted President put three of those motherfuckers there, and we still have the nerve to have folks be on that Non Voting shit or Never Hillary bullshit.

Biden will be making remarks later today.

Dept. of Education knew this would probably be the outcome, so they will be implementing some new information...


One key thing - I haven't read everything, but I do think SCOTUS said this is something that Congress would have to deal with and pass...

Still investigating....
 
Just a reminder that a one term, twice impeached, multi indicted President put three of those motherfuckers there, and we still have the nerve to have folks be on that Non Voting shit or Never Hillary bullshit.
This man gets it. I have never seen a president place 3 justices on the bench in 1 term. All these negroes telling y’all to vote for Trump are playing agent.
 


As I think many expected, the Supreme Court issued its opinion today and sadly, have struck down the Biden/Harris debt relief

For questions and comments about the litigation itself please use the horse's excellent pinned post here

For questions or comments about what this means for borrowers please use this OP. As the day progresses please skim the thread to see if your question has already been addressed. I will edit the OP throughout the day with FAQ's. In the meantime, questions about repayment restart might already be answered here https://freestudentloanadvice.org/r...nt/repayment-restart-news-updates-and-advice/

FAQ

How does this affect the proposed new income driven plan/pslf/the idr adjustment etc?

it doesn't. This decision only kills the Biden/Harris debt relief

What if i received a refund due to COVID. Do I now have to pay it back?

Yes. You can either pay it as a lump sum or let the loan go back into repayment come October and pay it via a payment plan the loan might be eligible for.

So when will payments restart?

Interest will begin accruing on September 1st and payments will start being due in October. (per the ED a few days ago - if this changes due to the date of the opinion i'll update this)

Will the White House take another shot at this?

I doubt it - one would think they will have used what they thought was their strongest legal argument out of the gate. But this is a better question for the litigation thread
 
Here's the funny part. Biden himself told people that he can only do so much and the courts are where things like this get decided. But the same people who were telling you how weak Biden was and that the courts don't matter are now going to be extra quiet because now they're big rally point, student debt, got struck down in the courts like all the Democrats warned would happen.

That's what happens when you sit out voting, when you talk about both sides are the same and when you talk about how you're going to withhold your vote.
 
If you needed any more proof that the American dream was never intended for us, here it is.

But there's always another way.

I may look at Germany or Canada for law school depending on how things shake out.

I'm a splitter. My GPA won't finish out great but I track to score high on the LSAT. AA might have helped me get into a more well known program. It's all good though, I'll make it happen.

Guys like me might have to do a year at a smaller school and transfer in to a higher program to finish with that name.

Where there's a will there's a way.
Hey bro I’m lookin at law school myself. Always been my dream. How are u preparing? What schools u lookin at?
 
Here's the funny part. Biden himself told people that he can only do so much and the courts are where things like this get decided. But the same people who were telling you how weak Biden was and that the courts don't matter are now going to be extra quiet because now they're big rally point, student debt, got struck down in the courts like all the Democrats warned would happen.

That's what happens when you sit out voting, when you talk about both sides are the same and when you talk about how you're going to withhold your vote.
The courts only have power if you want them to have power. I can’t wait for the Supreme Court to tell me that I need to be a slave again.
 
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