This white boy actually made a great point.

Nope
Open a roth IRA and let them have it AFTER college or trade school.
Every kid different and every kid path dosent necessarily need either of those paths… if my kid could be 1 of the best sports gamblers out there I’m not forcing him to go to college or trade school.. letting him flip that dough

Photography/ videography… maybe he know how to cook or cook a certain item very well that happens to be marketable, flipping clothes/ items, etc… so many ways to make money without needing college or trade school
 
Over 10 yrs ago I told people on this board if they have a child take $50 a month and either put it in a bank or a jug.. if you do this for 18 yrs straight or until your kid graduates, your child would have $10,800… if both parents did this that child would have at least $21,600 at their disposal. How many kids at 18 with that type of money to either could start their own biz, get their own apartment, get used car, certificate, etc.. how many people did this? People suppose to make their child’s life easier/ better than what they went through and supposed to alley oop them some tools to make their situation better.. how many of these kids with that type of money could flip it into good use? Just think of all the outlets they have now especially with the internet that they can utilize with that type of bread

I've started doing something like that with my son.

On his 8th birthday I got him an acorn account. I put in $1 a day and show him the balance every month. I'm cashing out when he turns 9.

There's two conditions though.

1) he has to spend it on himself

2) he can't tell any of his friends or cousins about it.
 
Life is 50% things you can control and 50% things you can't.
I notice the people who complain about their pay the most, are SOMETIMES (im going to stress sometimes) the people with the least accomplishments.

For example:

Job requires a college degree to make 65k - but you dropped out of high school and won't get your GED. and then apply to a community college. But you WANT THAT JOB.

Job requires certification - you have the money to apply for the classes, and it's 6 months to get certified. Yet, you won't sign up, and you blow your money on anything BUT paying for those classes. But you WANT THAT JOB.

You want to start your business - You can save up, start small and build up your money, to invest in your business that you want to start. But you're full of excuses, not willing to work extra on the weekends towards that "future business". But you WANT THAT BUSINESS.

Yes, life throws you curveballs and walls come up all the time. But if you're not willing to invest in yourself, then why do you expect others to? The world is cold. People only care about them and their pockets. Your problems are your problems.
Shiiiiiiit, i dont think you can even control 50% of it
 
Every kid different and every kid path dosent necessarily need either of those paths… if my kid could be 1 of the best sports gamblers out there I’m not forcing him to go to college or trade school.. letting him flip that dough

Photography/ videography… maybe he know how to cook or cook a certain item very well that happens to be marketable, flipping clothes/ items, etc… so many ways to make money without needing college or trade school
Its good to have as a back up and its good networking
 
So do you have adult children that you would allow to eat off you until they "found" themselves? You're a gen x'er like me. Let's think back to the 90s when we were trying to get our feet wet. I know I took many a shitty job before I invested enough in myself to qualify for something ideal. I went from working for a chicken plant, to GDOT, to Peachtree City to the City of East Point and Dekalb County before I found something I felt I could retire from. I'm just wondering why Gen Z can't do the same thing.
Because they see their peers on tik tom and youtube getting rich. Work doesn't sound so. you have to remember that they grown up in a time where all you see is the perception of everyone out and a out living their beat life.
 
On a superficial level. The main reason is to keep the workforce in a precarious situation. Workers having options is the worst thing for capital. I for one never understood why people don't identify as workers even if they are in the higher earning brackets, but I guess that is how propaganda works..

Because workers in higher earning brackets get treated like they're the reasons everyone else is so broke.

People get mad when the grunts are making $10 to $20 dollars an hour while the CEO gets $14 million a year. Meanwhile the corporation does over $1 billion dollars a year in sales.

All of this is done to distract from the fact that America is broke and the economy is in the toilet.
 
If that's the case I don't understand your point of view. You personally aren't footing the bill for anyone. Your post sounds incredibly close to the bullshit "bootstraps" speech. Is it that you're resentful and are projecting? There is no more upward mobility. There is NO work somewhere 20yrs and retire with a pension. That life plan is no longer valid and it's our fault because we(genX) bought in to that dream while our parents(boomers) sucked up all the wealth. Especially in the black community. These nigga climbed the latter then pull it up after them.
Valid points
 
Its good to have as a back up and its good networking
If they decide to do those things cool.. I’m not holding back their money if they don’t do those things.. here you go at 18… pretty sure many people would say their life might be different if they had received that type of money once they graduated from highschool .. in particular individuals who would’ve started their own bizz instead of doing a job they hate
 
If that's the case I don't understand your point of view. You personally aren't footing the bill for anyone. Your post sounds incredibly close to the bullshit "bootstraps" speech. Is it that you're resentful and are projecting? There is no more upward mobility. There is NO work somewhere 20yrs and retire with a pension. That life plan is no longer valid and it's our fault because we(genX) bought in to that dream while our parents(boomers) sucked up all the wealth. Especially in the black community. These nigga climbed the latter then pull it up after them.
Parent or not, a lot of the young people nowadays aren't going for that bullshit. They are making money on Twitch and Tick Tock and YouTube and whatever the fuck else.

They are even some who have potentially fucked up their future with only fans, but either way there are a lot of them making legal Bank in ways that we couldn't. I'm 46, and when I was coming up your option was sell drugs or work a minimum wage job at $4.25 an hour.

For me, thank God I went to the military, because without that I have no idea what the fuck I would be doing.

I don't have any kids, but I think we have to give our kids and the Next Generation time to find themselves, of course they have to be doing something productive in the process. I couldn't stand for me to go to work and my kid is in his bed sleep or playing video games and come home and my kid is in his bed sleep or playing video games (unless he's making money on youtube or Twitch or whatever)

I came from the generation of you got to get out of my house when you get 18 years old. Watch the Ali Siddiq special below of the negative effects that mindset has on kids of our generation.


 
A lot of kids of this generation have found alternatives to $8.50/hr, or even $12.00/hr, and a lot of businesses are starting to realize that bullshit money isn't cutting it anymore. The Hardee's near me is only open from 8am-2pm because they can't find people to do Thoroughbred work for Pony wages.

I for one I'm glad the American system is being torn down. They squeezed the middle class so hard with no raises or wage increases while the cost of living for everything went up and now businesses can't find anyone to work and are closing their doors early

The problems in the workforce today and them not accepting minimum wage and choosing to do other things and find other ways and means to make money is directly related to the change that started in 1978 when the CEO wages skyrocketed while the workforce wage stagnated.

This generation ain't going for the okie doke. As long as they're doing something and not sitting on their ass, I've got no problem with them doing it this way.
 
Will they start a revolution tho?
Its all talk but nobody ready to stand up
 
Will they start a revolution tho?
Its all talk but nobody ready to stand up
It’s already started. This is why the job market is wide open right now. Corporations are going to have to give up the ghost very soon because a lot of people are running out the door near retirement…..even some millennials are walking out the door
 


It's a good watch fam and John is right....If coprations can demand higher prices and realizes higher profits, mostly at an all time level, the workers also should be able to ask for higher wages.
 
This capitalist society has our generation too brainwashed to make a dramatic shift but I'm glad the kids see it doesn't have to be like this.

The end goal for human advancement should be a society were everyone has everything they "need" without having to do anything. We get there it's no war no crime no poverty we could focus on curing diseases and quality of life.

Our capitalist system creates crime it creates poverty it creates homelessness it creates addiction. These are the outputs of our system. Until we realize our system is not our humanity. It's a reflection of how much we trust ourselves and in America it's greed. If we were a people of giving this could be literally utopia. We have everything we need but the will to do it. We are convinced work yourself to success is a an adequate purpose for ones life but it has clearly led the majority of us to poor health and misery. Why the hell would we want that for our kids.
 
Life is 50% things you can control and 50% things you can't.
I notice the people who complain about their pay the most, are SOMETIMES (im going to stress sometimes) the people with the least accomplishments.

For example:

Job requires a college degree to make 65k - but you dropped out of high school and won't get your GED. and then apply to a community college. But you WANT THAT JOB.

Job requires certification - you have the money to apply for the classes, and it's 6 months to get certified. Yet, you won't sign up, and you blow your money on anything BUT paying for those classes. But you WANT THAT JOB.

You want to start your business - You can save up, start small and build up your money, to invest in your business that you want to start. But you're full of excuses, not willing to work extra on the weekends towards that "future business". But you WANT THAT BUSINESS.

Yes, life throws you curveballs and walls come up all the time. But if you're not willing to invest in yourself, then why do you expect others to? The world is cold. People only care about them and their pockets. Your problems are your problems.

I feel you on the business tip, but it's not even just about the work. It's having all your well-meaning family and friends tell you that you're wasting your time chasing a pipe dream.

Then, when you finally do make a living you get a bunch of different mouths saying the same phrase "if I had your talent I would be doing a lot better than you."

The funny part is that I don't really have any talent. Just a passion for my craft and a clientele that pays me to hone my skills.

Full disclosure though, a big inspiration was seeing you put out the dog years and make a living off your art.
 
Life is 50% things you can control and 50% things you can't.
I notice the people who complain about their pay the most, are SOMETIMES (im going to stress sometimes) the people with the least accomplishments.

For example:

Job requires a college degree to make 65k - but you dropped out of high school and won't get your GED. and then apply to a community college. But you WANT THAT JOB.

Job requires certification - you have the money to apply for the classes, and it's 6 months to get certified. Yet, you won't sign up, and you blow your money on anything BUT paying for those classes. But you WANT THAT JOB.

You want to start your business - You can save up, start small and build up your money, to invest in your business that you want to start. But you're full of excuses, not willing to work extra on the weekends towards that "future business". But you WANT THAT BUSINESS.

Yes, life throws you curveballs and walls come up all the time. But if you're not willing to invest in yourself, then why do you expect others to? The world is cold. People only care about them and their pockets. Your problems are your problems.
Exactly.

I get it. People don't want to be exploited. But at the same time, this is the same generation that cries over microaggressions. :lol: Getting their pronouns wrong causes them 'violence'. So this is deeper than 'evil corporations'. These fools are more me, me, me than anyone. They go by what they feel. It's all about them at all fucking times.

We went from 'stick and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me' to :crymeariver: "words always hurt me, now give me $35/hr, from home, I start when I want, and don't give me too much work".

Meanwhile, can hire a young Indian or another foreigner online and not have to deal with any of that shit for way less cost.
 



Some of his points are valid but many companies now are paying pretty damn good.. including ours.. i do work in for a grocery warehouse, but the pay starts at like 19$ taps out at like 32$ in 4 years..but the busters we get just can get it done...
 
So do you have adult children that you would allow to eat off you until they "found" themselves? You're a gen x'er like me. Let's think back to the 90s when we were trying to get our feet wet. I know I took many a shitty job before I invested enough in myself to qualify for something ideal. I went from working for a chicken plant, to GDOT, to Peachtree City to the City of East Point and Dekalb County before I found something I felt I could retire from. I'm just wondering why Gen Z can't do the same thing.


Agreed! The only thing is i had 3 jobs in my life all 3 were good, but the first one closed up and moved away the second just didnt pay enough and the third one well im still there...hell im 49 and been there 27 years this year..
 
words always hurt me, now give me $35/hr, from home, I start when I want, and don't give me too much work".

Meanwhile, can hire a young Indian or another foreigner online and not have to deal with any of that shit for way less cost
Agreed! :thumbsup:
 
Exactly.

I get it. People don't want to be exploited. But at the same time, this is the same generation that cries over microaggressions. :lol: Getting their pronouns wrong causes them 'violence'. So this is deeper than 'evil corporations'. These fools are more me, me, me than anyone. They go by what they feel. It's all about them at all fucking times.

We went from 'stick and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me' to :crymeariver: "words always hurt me, now give me $35/hr, from home, I start when I want, and don't give me too much work".

Meanwhile, can hire a young Indian or another foreigner online and not have to deal with any of that shit for way less cost.

word. Everything you said
 
There's a lot of projection and old niggas shaking their fists at the sky. Times change. Things fall apart. The rules we came up to don't apply anymore. Some of y'all niggas sound like our boomer parents talking shit about us because we didn't "fall in line". I personally don't get annoyed at the youngsters going their own way. The old ways are dead. No one wants to live and die chained to some desk. Y'all sound like slaves shaming other slaves into staying on the plantation. I already know what the replies are gonna be "Why can't they do it? I did it and my life turn out mediocre." Or "Get a trade, there's always WORK out there if you try". Some of y'all are really out to touch. Then you'll come with some anecdotal evidence of individuals like that proves something. This system is broken, I accept that. I have to continue in it because it all I know. But I'll be damned if I tryin to shame and brow beat youngsters in to this lie. It's not the younger generation people, it's the system.
 
Naw is wasn't just white boomers. There was a whole lot of Clearance Thomas's that came out of the era. Those niggas climbed the latter then pulled it up after them. I'm old enough to personally know wealthy black folks that worshipped Ronald Reagan. They hoarded wealth just as much as their white counterparts.

That really isn't fair I know a bunch of solid black folks my parents age that kicked ladders over so that others could pick it up and climb up after them (my pops would say you don't want the white folks to see it, so they'd pull it up) Left doors cracked open. But they also believed in that if you work hard, grind you'll get your house with a white picket fence and for them that shyt was possible. I have seen this country change DRAMATICALLY over the last +30 years. I used to see guys get promoted cause they never took a day off. Fast forward 20 years later I have seen people who are essential to a team get let go for right-sizing so that someone can save 3 grand per person. Whole factory floors going from white and black faces to nothing but mariachi band music.

Society is so much different that you just can't do what adults in the 70's, 80's and early 90's used to do. It used to be get an education, then it was develop an website/app. Now it's develop a startup and that is just the last +20 years. You had the same sentiment for over 30 years to workforce ideology changing 3-4 times within 20 years. This whole thing is built on a house of cards that you started with regular playing cards and now your putting heavier thicker cards on top.
 
Only reason why they want to return to the old business model of coming into the office after covid is because it helped move commerce and economy.

You gotta buy gas to go to work and probably get a coffee.

Go to work and buy lunch and maybe a snack.

Leave work buy more gas, stop at the store get something for dinner.

Repeat

This is exactly it.
 
That really isn't fair I know a bunch of solid black folks my parents age that kicked ladders over so that others could pick it up and climb up after them (my pops would say you don't want the white folks to see it, so they'd pull it up) Left doors cracked open. But they also believed in that if you work hard, grind you'll get your house with a white picket fence and for them that shyt was possible.
I don't disagree. But I needed to highlight that some(not all) black folks were guilty of the same shit CAC's was doing around that time. I think niggas forget. Black folks in general was not eating in the 80's. It was fucked up back then. When black folks made it to the burbs they was not looking back. Reaganomics had black folks acting like assholes to each other. Not everyone was cooning, but that movie "The Inkwell" was some real shit. Even my extended family was divided between the haves and the have nots. I was lucky that my grandma was doing well back then. If not, brother ain't no tell where I would be today.
 
I don't disagree. But I needed to highlight that some(not all) black folks were guilty of the same shit CAC's was doing around that time. I think niggas forget. Black folks in general was not eating in the 80's. It was fucked up back then. When black folks made it to the burbs they was not looking back. Reaganomics had black folks acting like assholes to each other. Not everyone was cooning, but that movie "The Inkwell" was some real shit. Even my extended family was divided between the haves and the have nots. I was lucky that my grandma was doing well back then. If not, brother ain't no tell where I would be today.

I was lucky cause growing up Detroit/Southfield all my family was eating and eating well! A cousin that was doing shyt morgue jobs at like 6 different morgues/funeral parlors and now owns his own funeral parlor in Detroit. A uncle that was giving his name and employee number out to any and everybody whether you needed a job or use his employee discount on a new car. I remember my dad having a crisis cause he had a job that came down to a black woman and a white dude. The black woman could do the work, but not as well as the white dude. Both needed the job, black woman needed it a little more. And he WANTED to give this woman that job, I think he ended up referring her to another job, not as much money, but better hours don't know what happened to her after that.

As a kid I just didn't see that in my family. Even the conservative members (females that ONLY vote due to abortion rights) would lookout for skinfolk. I know the lost ones (can't bring myself to call my people coons) exist I have yet to meet one in either side of my family.
 
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